Suicidal thoughts, hopelessness, need advice.

LegacyUser

I don't suppose there's any point in elaborating on why I'm considering suicide. I have no viable plan for an attempt, not one that can sidestep the fact that I would be doing a terrible injustice to my loved ones.
I have suffered no great injustice, tragedy or abuse in my life.

I'm 23 and I'm tired of living.

My mind knows there's something wrong with that.

I don't think I'll be able to fix this problem alone, so I'm going to need help.

Bearing in mind I dont have the coffin chosen just yet, what are my options?

I want to keep my family, friends and girlfriend out of it as much as possible. At least until I have a handle on why I'm feeling like this.

Will a counseller touch me?
Will my GP, based on what I've said above deem me a danger to myself and have me commited?
What are my options?

I'm not on the cliff just yet, but I'll tell you one thing, thinking about suicide does nothing for your sense of self worth.

star-pants

Unregistered wrote: »

Will a counseller touch me?
Will my GP, based on what I've said above deem me a danger to myself and have me commited?
What are my options?

By touch, do you mean will a counsellor physically touch you? AFAIK, they'd just shake your hand in greeting that's about it.

Your GP may or may not suggest something like you suggested, depending on whether he feels you're a danger to yourself or not. But generally you'd see a psychologist or counsellor first and they might do the assessing.

Your options are -- go get help. You say you need help, and you're right. Suicide isn't the way, not when there are so many things you could do with your life, why choose the path that has one ending only?

As for keeping friends and family out of it, it is possible, say you're meeting a friend or running an errand when you go to a session.

You've done the right thing by asking what to do, now you know the right thing is to go ask for help, best of luck

RossFixxxed

There is one thing to do:

GET OFF YOUR COMPUTER AND GO TO THE GP.

Yes a councillor will take you but go get the referral/help from the GP first is the easiest way IMO. Don't bother reading posts etc, the biggest step you will take is getting up NOW and going for help. You will be proud that you did once you do it, and you will begin to realise there really is a road to recovering from this. You will not know yourself once you do. Believe me on this.

Ross

LegacyUser

OP Here

star-pants wrote: »

By touch, do you mean will a counsellor physically touch you? AFAIK, they'd just shake your hand in greeting that's about it.

Ah, no it's not. But it was the first thing I saw when I read my post!

Cheers for the advice.
You won't be reading about me in the morning paper. Thats not the plan anyway.

mysterious

Unregistered wrote: »

I don't suppose there's any point in elaborating on why I'm considering suicide. I have no viable plan for an attempt, not one that can sidestep the fact that I would be doing a terrible injustice to my loved ones.
I have suffered no great injustice, tragedy or abuse in my life.

I'm 23 and I'm tired of living.

My mind knows there's something wrong with that.

I don't think I'll be able to fix this problem alone, so I'm going to need help.

Bearing in mind I dont have the coffin chosen just yet, what are my options?

I want to keep my family, friends and girlfriend out of it as much as possible. At least until I have a handle on why I'm feeling like this.

Will a counseller touch me?
Will my GP, based on what I've said above deem me a danger to myself and have me commited?
What are my options?

I'm not on the cliff just yet, but I'll tell you one thing, thinking about suicide does nothing for your sense of self worth.

You dont think about sucicide to kill yourself, we all experience this feelings we all imagine what it would be like if we died wondering what people would do without us.

Ive been there, could be again.

People who commit sucicide actually do it.
The fact that your expressing shows that you have strenght within you. My message would be to you. Is you have to face yourself, demons and pull yourself out of it. There is help, there are friends and you can recieve concseilling to help you deal with your pain.

But you have to do most of the work yourself.

Its your life and your responsible for it. Thats my two cents.

LegacyUser

23 to young go to doctor, and get the help you need ,talk to someone who will listen, good luck

LegacyUser

I hope you don't think I'm messing about with this response because it is meant to be very sincere, I think you should go see a member of the clergy and have a chat. You'll probably need to make an appointment as it's not a 10 minute conversation you'll be looking for. The clergy deal with the after effects of suicide all the time and how it can ruin a family, they're also trained counsellors and can give you comforting and most importantly of all 'confidential' advice.
Going to the GP may be necessary but if you are seeking advice intitially and can hold off on acting through on these feelings then seek a more confidential route to start with. It can also help to open up to people, talk to your family/parents and let them help you. Find a time when they can listen, for example if you're in the car alone with one of them. Parents can appear distracted by their own lives at times but YOU are their reason for living and they will do anything to help you.

As an earlier poster said, we've all felt that way at times and I think the majority will agree that letting these feelings pass was the best decision they ever made as the cloud does lift and life IS worth living even if it's just to experience the sensation of being you.

Ciara471

Hey,
Listen I've been in the same situation before. If you want to talk send me a private mail. Sometimes it helps to talk to someone who's been through it. You also need to see your GP.

antiskeptic

Unregistered wrote: »

I don't suppose there's any point in elaborating on why I'm considering suicide.

In some ways no, in many (probably not public forum) ways, yes.

You say you're tired of living... which is one typo away from saying you're tired of loving. I've been dog-tired of the former and .. many years hence, worry myself of ever dog-tiring of the latter.

It's a matter of doing as so many have done (and sang about doing ) before you.

Hang on.

It's a decision you make really - giving a nod to all the things that you know are hanging on to you. It will turn - it can't help but turning. It's as sure as night follows day/

LegacyUser

OP Here
Well I think I reached bottom today. I went for a wee drive to get my head straight and have a bit of a cry. I contacted my GP from since I was a kid and have an appointment made for Monday. (I just knew he would be on holiday!)

Unregistered wrote: »

I hope you don't think I'm messing about with this response because it is meant to be very sincere, I think you should go see a member of the clergy and have a chat.

I'm not at all religious AT ALL AT ALL but I see where you are coming from. There is one priest who I might be able to call on, a customer of mine who I have a lot of respect for.

I'm a car salesman before ye all start sniggering! (oh, wait, now I'm the bad guy!)

I'll be grand till then, and I can allways look up Father whozizname if I'm In dire straits.

RossFixxxed

Unregistered wrote: »

OP Here
Well I think I reached bottom today. I went for a wee drive to get my head straight and have a bit of a cry. I contacted my GP from since I was a kid and have an appointment made for Monday. (I just knew he would be on holiday!)



I'm not at all religious AT ALL AT ALL but I see where you are coming from. There is one priest who I might be able to call on, a customer of mine who I have a lot of respect for.

I'm a car salesman before ye all start sniggering! (oh, wait, now I'm the bad guy!)

I'll be grand till then, and I can allways look up Father whozizname if I'm In dire straits.

Car sales man. Sympathy is now zero! Ha no only joking, I work with car dealers every day, they pay my wages!

Seriously man well done on the doctor, that's a great step and you'll start to feel the good effects of taking positive actions for yourself.

In regards to the priest, there's always watching Father Ted! What I'm actually getting at is find those things that cheer you up and make sure you give yourself some 'me' time. I know on bad days that Will Ferrell, Jet Li and others can be a great help in cheering me up and help me forget for a few hours!

Why limit to a priest, there's meditation classes out there that are great, there's group councelling, there's all sorts of support structures in place and like minded people to help you.



OP: there is so much light at the end of this, and you have made the hardest step in contacting the GP. You will, in time, wonder why you didn't do this ages ago and will really start to feel better. The other side of that wall is fantastic and I can't wait to see you start to climb over it. There WILL be days that feel like a setback or nothing is working but they will eventually become challenges and then you will be able to nip them in the bud before there is any issue.

Good luck man!
R

LegacyUser

OP here
What can I say? I'm a lot better than when I posted here nearly two weeks ago.
I went to my GP who proscribed a course of anti depressents, while I was reluctant to take that course I was firmly reminded that I wasn't the doctor!
I'm a week into the script and the best way to describe the effect of the medication is 'Normality',
Annoying things are still annoying, I can still be a cutting pr1ck, I still drink too much coffee. I'm not a zombified humourless cliche, nor am I a happy clapping w"nker.
I suppose the best way to describe the change is, I have a better perspective on things, realising that there are some things I cant change, some things I can, but It's not the end of the world either way.
Thanks for your time, and for anyone who was in a similar position to me,
- Just visit your GP, you've got nothing to loose at this point.

RossFixxxed

Unregistered wrote: »

OP here
What can I say? I'm a lot better than when I posted here nearly two weeks ago.
I went to my GP who proscribed a course of anti depressents, while I was reluctant to take that course I was firmly reminded that I wasn't the doctor!
I'm a week into the script and the best way to describe the effect of the medication is 'Normality',
Annoying things are still annoying, I can still be a cutting pr1ck, I still drink too much coffee. I'm not a zombified humourless cliche, nor am I a happy clapping w"nker.
I suppose the best way to describe the change is, I have a better perspective on things, realising that there are some things I cant change, some things I can, but It's not the end of the world either way.
Thanks for your time, and for anyone who was in a similar position to me,
- Just visit your GP, you've got nothing to loose at this point.

Fantastic! And to be honest, the anti d's wouldn't be doing THAT much YET! A good bit of the feeling you are having is YOU! Which is great, you are feeling the effects of taking action, seeing the doctor, getting diagnosed and treating it.

Seriously mate, well done, and it's a great lesson to others out there!

Anyway enough gushing, just remember you will have good and bad days, but hopefully more within a wide screen, no crazy lows, no dangerous highs!

R

LegacyUser

Hi OP,

Well done and best of luck, its true most people feel like this at some stage, it depends on how you deal with it that matters. The next time you feel like this you just know that you can overcome it. Can I suggest exercise, preferably outside for releasing natural endorphins which make you feel great about yourself and gives you time to sort your head out. Don't knock it tilll you try it. Delighted you feel better, Stay positive... You are normal

Kidchameleon

Hi Op,

If your doing any drugs (hash, coke) ect... STOP

I know of depressed people who smoke canabis to 'make them feel better', but this makes them feel worse!

Im not suggesting you are taking anything, just making sure.

All the best.