Ex monitoring text messages?

LegacyUser

Am just wondering is this possible: Basically an ex of mine has repeated back stuff I said about him only through a text to somebody he doesn't know from adam, nor the guy I texted it to doesn't know him either.
If the guy I said the thing to definitely did not say it back to (of which I'd be 99.% certain btw) the ex then how did he know what I had been saying?

Am just wondering is it possible or easy to monitor/record another persons texts if you really wanted to?

chicomcchappy

The short answer is yes
All he needs is access to your phone for about 2 mins once and there is software you can install to get a duplcate of any sms in or out of that phone sent to him

There is a way to check for this, if this is happening you will be getting double charged for your SMS

Apart from that the only wayto monitor is to get your phone and read sent items

IRISH RAIL

ah its even easier than that
I ahowed some cops a very easy way of downloading every text and call detail and phonebook entry from someones phone without them even knowing it very impressed thry were.
it just depends how tech savvy you are and how desperate to get the details.
and worst thing is theres no trail to show this so its near impossible to have proof.
If you want something to stay secret keep it to yourself.
or you can get encryption software for your phone but the recipiant will need it too

Jesus1222

IRISH RAIL wrote: »

ah its even easier than that
I ahowed some cops a very easy way of downloading every text and call detail and phonebook entry from someones phone without them even knowing it very impressed thry were.
it just depends how tech savvy you are and how desperate to get the details.
and worst thing is theres no trail to show this so its near impossible to have proof.
If you want something to stay secret keep it to yourself.
or you can get encryption software for your phone but the recipiant will need it too

Absolute waffle. Don't listen to this.

Yes it's possible, but not by waving a magic wand so secret even Gardaí don't know about it.

Otis Driftwood

How sure are you they dont know eachother?
Have they mutual (even 3rd hand) friends?

The above is alot more likely than him cyber stalking you.

Seriously,just take a minute to think about it rationally.

IRISH RAIL

Jesus1222 wrote: »

Absolute waffle. Don't listen to this.

Yes it's possible, but not by waving a magic wand so secret even Gardaí don't know about it.

they did know about it just never seen it done its called bluejacking nothing secret or magic about it

zuroph

IRISH RAIL wrote: »

they did know about it just never seen it done its called bluejacking nothing secret or magic about it

Im presuming the ex isnt close enough for bluesnarfing, also the OP would have to have bluetooth turned on. Only really accessible is phone contacts and calender entries, and on a limited number of handsets.

bushy...

textq wrote: »

Am just wondering is this possible: Basically an ex of mine has repeated back stuff I said about him only through a text to somebody he doesn't know from adam, nor the guy I texted it to doesn't know him either.
If the guy I said the thing to definitely did not say it back to (of which I'd be 99.% certain btw) the ex then how did he know what I had been saying?

Am just wondering is it possible or easy to monitor/record another persons texts if you really wanted to?

Would he have the password to your account on the webpage ( eg ww.02.ie ) you use to access your bill etc ?

Maybe it shows the last 10 texts sent ?

LegacyUser

nedtheshed wrote: »

How sure are you they dont know eachother?
Have they mutual (even 3rd hand) friends?

The above is alot more likely than him cyber stalking you.

Seriously,just take a minute to think about it rationally.

I really have been doing that, believe me. Thats obviously what I explored first as the source. And am now 99.9% certain that wasn't the source.

And I should mention this ain't the first time the individual has found out stuff about what I was doing and where I was. At the time I just went along with the line I had been seen by friends of his. Now I'm not so sure. I know there are a lot of sh!tstirrers out there in the world but not that many either.

How could something so trivial get back to the person that was sent via text if the reciever of the text definitely did not say it nor even know the person from adam.

IRISH RAIL

perhaps it was a lucky guess?

david

The only thing I can think of is itemised billing on your myMeteor (or equivalent) if you had the password saved on their pc etc. But again that would only tell you call text/history, not text content.

Is it possible that the msg you sent was sent via webtext?

If so then all sent webtexts are saved in a sent folder. If your ex knew your login password for say www.o2.ie they would be able to view all the webtexts you had sent and not deleted.

LegacyUser

[quote=[Deleted User];60184368]Is it possible that the msg you sent was sent via webtext?

If so then all sent webtexts are saved in a sent folder. If your ex knew your login password for say www.o2.ie they would be able to view all the webtexts you had sent and not deleted.[/QUOTE]

No, just sent the normal way, no webtext.

LegacyUser

Does your ex have any contacts in the Gardai? If yes, it would be relatively trivial for him to get access to call history and text content. No court order/warrant required as there are zero safeguards in place for Garda access to retained traffic data .

Big Bro!

Big Bro! wrote: »

Does your ex have any contacts in the Gardai? If yes, it would be relatively trivial for him to get access to call history and text content. No court order/warrant required as there are zero safeguards in place for Garda access to retained traffic data .

That is not true. Call details maybe, but definitely not text content. Gardai have to contact network provider and all querys go through one garda office. Privacy and security is very strict, it is a long drawn out process for the gardai to access text content. I know this for a fact.

zuroph

does he know anyone working for a mobile phone company then?

its probably the phonespy software, if its anything tbh.

Very unlikely that there is a second receiver or any of that high-tec stuff you are being offered in this thread, but not impossible. I would however consider finding a rational explanation. Do you keep every sent text? There is usually a rational explanation for these things and without even trying I can make up 2:

1) someone you DO both know got their hands on your phone when you weren’t looking and read the texts and passed them on.
2) At least one of the texts you sent, you sent to the wrong number. It happens!

More paranoid but still more likely than what you’ve been offered here is:

3) Ex or someone he knows works for the phone company your phone is on.

Really though, without following you around 24/7 we are all just speculating. Get in touch with your service provider and tell them you think this is happening and they will soon put your mind at rest. They will soon be able to test for issues like this on your behalf, such as getting you to turn off your phone and seeing if a second receiver is on the network. They should also be able to tell if one of their operators was accessing your account.

Jesus1222

The simplest solution is always the most likely but this guy can't know everybody in Dublin, if the girl is sure he doesn't know the person she sent the message to then she's sure, she would be aware of the various social circles. Is this the same girl who was having similar problems with text messages before? There was another thread recently on a similar situation. If so the guy is getting wind of more than the messages she's sending to this one person, it seems to me that this culprit is reading text messages, not following her, speaking to her friends, just reading text messages.

The solutions are (discounting the bluetooth hack, he would have to be following her):

1 - he has direct access to her phone, he picks it up and reads it

this one we know isn't true

2 - he has direct access to various people she sends messages to

but she's as certain as she can be that this isn't the case

3 -he works for the mobile phone company on the technical side, at a high level, or knows somebody who does

the OP didn't mention this obvious solution, although perhaps he is paying somebody for this facility at the company? not sure what security is like, perhaps it's not possible for the mobile company to log this type of activity of it's technical staff

4 - the alleged reader knows or is an important Garda detective, if this was discovered the Garda would lose his job or face the most severe discipline, it's not worth it for any Garda to do this for somebody, even if paid to do so

the OP didn't mention this obvious solution, very unlikely

5 - the alleged reader cloned the phone or had somebody do it for him

some people are very weird about technical things, if they can do it they will, if the alleged reader was at all strange about his girlfriend and her privacy when they were going out I would go down this road, I would speak to the most senior person possible at the mobile phone company and explain what's going on. Check your bill first, see if there's any unusual text message activity


There is a low tech solution, change handset, change number, see if it continues. Keep both in use but anything private use the new number, give it to 1 person at a time, tell them to keep it private. See if this happens again and note when it happens, ie does it happen when you text a certain person, or has it stopped altogether?

Hobart

I spent a number of years working for an SMSC supplier, and I've dealt with nearly every MO across the world. I worked with Singular through 9/11 and (indirectly) with the FBI through a second tier, so my opinion is an informed one.

Firstly, people working with organisations such as Vodafone/O2 etc do have access to your SMS messages. However, access to these messages is logged and strictly controlled. I would be 100% sure that if this guy knows anybody working for an MO, they are not passing on details of your messages to him, as their job would not be worth it. Mobile operators do keep historical copies of all your messages, up to 6 months worth. This is fairly standard across the world.

Snarfing, as has been mentioned earlier, is possible, but unlikely as it only affects a number of handsets, and as far as I know, it does not allow the intruder to download sms content, although as it's a bug, I can't be sure. Either way, it works across bluetooth which has a limited range, so again, unlikely. Bluejacking is something completely different, and would not cause the issue you think you are having.

In short, I doubt he has hacked your phone or your mobile operators SMSC.

So it has to one of a number of things:

1) He has been told by a mutual contact about this text message.
2) He has gotten access to your handset
3) You have mentioned this incident in an email to somebody, and he hacked your email account (my guess).
4) He bull***tting you, and is guessing what you have said.

Can I suggest you change your password and PIN on all your email accounts and on your phone as a precaution.

LegacyUser

Thanks guys for all your helpful and informative replies. The simple one of the individual reading the texts is plausible but I don't see how they would have gotten the chance in retrospect to look at them and read them in detail.
The person concerned works with the emergency service alright, not sure if that would have any relevance?

On a persoanl level I'm very hurt and feel so violated right now. I can't bear to think about the person, makes my stomach churn.

The last night I was around at their house and they were asking after a good friend of mine..said something to the effect of "I bet you havn't been in contact"....sure enough we havn't texted eachother for weeks and weeks. Strange.

havana

Did he give you very specific examples of what you had said in the texts? A very manipulative ex of mine had a way of really getting me paranoid that people close to me were feeding him information of things i'd done or said. But knowing my friends i really knew this was not the case and as i really thought about it i realised there was really nothing to what he was saying- it was just him trying to manipulatate me and get into my head. And he was good at it till i stopped letting it affect me. Still tries the odd time but i'm wise to his pathetic attempts now :-)

LegacyUser

Hey everybody,

Just thought I would update a year later. Would you believe i got back with this person in the end but we broke up again. Don't think things were ever the same again between us. Big mistake on my part, but no accounting for human nature eh. As regards the texts, reckon he was probably just reading the texts; it's the most plausible explanation at the end of the day.

finbarrk

More teenage problems.

LegacyUser

finbarrk wrote: »

More teenage problems.

You would think...but no I'm 27 and he's 41!

Silverfish

finbarrk, I would suggest you read the charter of this forum before posting again.


Thanks for the update OP.