VRT for Van's ?

Digitaljunkie · 08-05-2009 3:21pm #1

I'm in the market to buy a 2005 Berlingo or Partner van looking up north as well, I keep hearing that the VRT on vans are only €50 but can't confirm that.Tried ros vrt calculator but it not working "Well thats the civil service for ya" anyone know where I could find out?

Dj...........

Stephen · 08-05-2009 3:38pm

VRT should be only about €50 as its a commercial. Unless someone has put rear seats into it

spartacus93 · 08-05-2009 4:05pm

ROS.ie site wrote:

What types of vehicles can I obtain this information for?
You may obtain information for the following VRT Categories of vehicles -
Category 'A' Vehicles - Passenger Vehicles e.g. Saloons, Hatchbacks, MPVs, Jeeps, Coupes, Convertibles etc
Category 'B' vehicles e.g. Car Derived or Jeep Derived Vans
Motorcycles
What types of vehicles can I not obtain this information for?
Certain vehicles e.g. Classic Collectable, Motor Caravans (Campers), Kit Vehicles etc. that require to be assessed on an individual basis.
Other vehicles e.g. Tractors, Large Vans, Lorries etc. (Category ‘C’ vehicles) that are liable to a flat rate of €50.00 VRT.

hth

Digitaljunkie · 08-05-2009 4:43pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by ROS.ie site

What types of vehicles can I obtain this information for?
You may obtain information for the following VRT Categories of vehicles -
Category 'A' Vehicles - Passenger Vehicles e.g. Saloons, Hatchbacks, MPVs, Jeeps, Coupes, Convertibles etc
Category 'B' vehicles e.g. Car Derived or Jeep Derived Vans
Motorcycles
What types of vehicles can I not obtain this information for?
Certain vehicles e.g. Classic Collectable, Motor Caravans (Campers), Kit Vehicles etc. that require to be assessed on an individual basis.
Other vehicles e.g. Tractors, Large Vans, Lorries etc. (Category ‘C’ vehicles) that are liable to a flat rate of €50.00 VRT.

Ok but it only specifies Large Vans i'm looking for a small one, sorry if I am missing the obvious here........

Seanieke · 08-05-2009 4:47pm

It's €50. I've changed a few. Ya can get caught out on wee carvans though like Corollas & Meganes!

leeroybrown · 08-05-2009 4:50pm

The Berlingo and Partner are 'Category C' vans for VRT purposes and will only be €50. Converted corollas, fiestas, etc along with 4x4s fall into 'Category B'.

FearDark · 08-05-2009 4:50pm

Similar question, whats stopping someone lets say bringing in a ford focus van and paying the £50 VRT and then converting it to a car?

Digitaljunkie · 08-05-2009 4:53pm

Nice one thx for that all.............Dj

Seanieke · 08-05-2009 4:59pm

FearDark wrote: »

Similar question, whats stopping someone lets say bringing in a ford focus van and paying the £50 VRT and then converting it to a car?

Because when you go to re register the van because at some stage you'll need to Tax & NCT as a car they'll charge you full VRT on a Focus car!

However if you fit it out as a car, then retrofit it as a van for DOE testing you'll have a right pain in your ass because 1) you'll be stopped all the time for driving with no NCT displayed because you dont get one driving a van & 2) DOE's occur every 12 months, meaning hassle changing the car/van formation every year!

leeroybrown · 08-05-2009 4:59pm

FearDark wrote: »

Similar question, whats stopping someone lets say bringing in a ford focus van and paying the £50 VRT and then converting it to a car?

Firstly, it won't be €50 in the case of a car-derived model like a Ford Focus van. It used to be 13.3% of the OMSP prior to CO2 based VRT but it may have changed now.

Secondly, there was plenty of it going on but it tended to happen with higher-end 4x4s. The vehicle would be brought in, temporarily converted for commercial use then put back to normal use once the VRT was sorted out. It wouldn't be worth it for a cheap van. As far as I remember a number of people got in quite a bit of trouble for this a year or two ago.

L-M · 08-05-2009 7:09pm

leeroybrown wrote: »

Secondly, there was plenty of it going on but it tended to happen with higher-end 4x4s. The vehicle would be brought in, temporarily converted for commercial use then put back to normal use once the VRT was sorted out. It wouldn't be worth it for a cheap van. As far as I remember a number of people got in quite a bit of trouble for this a year or two ago.

That was fairly big around the start to mid 07, but most of it was quickly ironed out. It occured mainly with larger SUV's, RR's, X5's etc. etc.

Stephen · 10-05-2009 1:34pm

When the van conversion happens the rear seat/belt mounts are supposed to be destroyed too, so converting it back may leave you with something of a death trap.

Eric Cartman · 10-05-2009 4:17pm

Digitaljunkie wrote: »

Quote:
Originally Posted by ROS.ie site

What types of vehicles can I obtain this information for?
You may obtain information for the following VRT Categories of vehicles -
Category 'A' Vehicles - Passenger Vehicles e.g. Saloons, Hatchbacks, MPVs, Jeeps, Coupes, Convertibles etc
Category 'B' vehicles e.g. Car Derived or Jeep Derived Vans
Motorcycles
What types of vehicles can I not obtain this information for?
Certain vehicles e.g. Classic Collectable, Motor Caravans (Campers), Kit Vehicles etc. that require to be assessed on an individual basis.
Other vehicles e.g. Tractors, Large Vans, Lorries etc. (Category ‘C’ vehicles) that are liable to a flat rate of €50.00 VRT.

Ok but it only specifies Large Vans i'm looking for a small one, sorry if I am missing the obvious here........

large is anything with a wheelbase bigger than 2.4 meters and a gvw above 2.4 tonnes

nesa_2007 · 04-06-2009 11:28am

i just bought a vw golf in the uk does anyone no that if that if when u bought the car in england it was actualy a car and is on the log book, then brought it back here to the south then converted it to a van before u approached the vrt office would u have to pay the car derived van vrt or the car vrt and then kept it as a van to use all the time

OldmanMondeo · 04-06-2009 12:53pm

What about the VAT? Would €50 cover everything or is VAT extra? i.e. Van cost €4000 plus VRT €50.00 = €4050.00 plus vat 21.5% (??) = €4920.75

leeroybrown · 04-06-2009 1:15pm

If the van is coming from the UK then it should already have UK VAT paid so none will be due here.

Stephen · 04-06-2009 2:07pm

nesa_2007 wrote: »

i just bought a vw golf in the uk does anyone no that if that if when u bought the car in england it was actualy a car and is on the log book, then brought it back here to the south then converted it to a van before u approached the vrt office would u have to pay the car derived van vrt or the car vrt and then kept it as a van to use all the time

You're supposed to VRT it upon import to Ireland so at that stage it would still be a regular car and liable for full VRT.

L-M · 04-06-2009 3:48pm

Stephen wrote: »

You're supposed to VRT it upon import to Ireland so at that stage it would still be a regular car and liable for full VRT.

But surely you could indicate your intentions to commercialize the vehicle? There fore only paying the car van VRT?

Fey! · 04-06-2009 4:44pm

Commercialise it and bring it to your local, friendly VRT office. They'll check that the conversion is properly done, and take your VRT money off you. If it's not properly done, they'll keep sending you away until it's done to their satisfaction.

Then book a DoE at your local, friendly DoE centre and, when you get your DoE cert, tax it back to the day you registered it.

For commercialisation, the back windows must be covered with metal (blacked out or carpeted over isn't sufficient), and the rear seat belt points must be removed (I believe that you must have a flat floor and no access to the rear footwells).

€50 VRT refers to vehicles with a laden capacity of 3,449kg or over and a load bay longer than 45% of the vehicles wheelbase.

€13.5% VRT refers to vehicles which only cover one of these requirements.

DanGerMus · 04-06-2009 5:03pm

Off topic i know but can you convert estates to commercials? I'm sure i saw a project in the states where a guy converted an M5. Trying to find it now.
here it is.
http://www.nextconceptcars.com/wp-content/bmw-m5-ute-2.jpg

Brian Brew · 22-01-2014 6:53pm

I'm thinking of buying a used Transit in N. Ireland and bringing it over to Donegal with a view to converting to a camper. What would be the VRT implications. I know its €50 for the van but what about after converting? I would need to re-register it as a camper I know but don't want to be faced with astronomical additional costs.

Seanieke · 22-01-2014 7:01pm

Brian Brew wrote: »

I'm thinking of buying a used Transit in N. Ireland and bringing it over to Donegal with a view to converting to a camper. What would be the VRT implications. I know its €50 for the van but what about after converting? I would need to re-register it as a camper I know but don't want to be faced with astronomical additional costs.

http://blog.donedeal.ie/articles/all-you-need-to-know-about-camper-vans-and-vrt/