College Student Shoots, Kills Home Invader

SoupyNorman

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/19365762/detail.html

Updated: 6:41 pm EDT May 4, 2009
COLLEGE PARK, Ga. -- A group of college students said they are lucky to be alive and they’re thanking the quick-thinking of one of their own. Police said a fellow student shot and killed one of two masked me who burst into an apartment.

Channel 2 Action News reporter Tom Jones met with one of the students to talk about the incident.

“Apparently, his intent was to rape and murder us all,” said student Charles Bailey.

TOM JONES: College Student Shoots, Kills Home Invader

Bailey said he thought it was the end of his life and the lives of the 10 people inside his apartment for a birthday party after two masked men with guns burst in through a patio door.

“They just came in and separated the men from the women and said, ‘Give me your wallets and cell phones,’” said George Williams of the College Park Police Department.

Bailey said the gunmen started counting bullets. “The other guy asked how many (bullets) he had. He said he had enough,” said Bailey.

That’s when one student grabbed a gun out of a backpack and shot at the invader who was watching the men. The gunman ran out of the apartment.

The student then ran to the room where the second gunman, identified by police as 23-year-old Calvin Lavant, was holding the women.

“Apparently the guy was getting ready to rape his girlfriend. So he told the girls to get down and he started shooting. The guy jumped out of the window,” said Bailey.

A neighbor heard the shots and heard someone running nearby.

“And I heard someone say, ‘Someone help me. Call the police. Somebody call the police,’” said a neighbor.

The neighbor said she believes it was Lavant, who was found dead near his apartment, only one building away.

Bailey said he is just thankful one student risked his life to keep others alive.

“I think all of us are really cognizant of the fact that we could have all been killed,” said Bailey.

One female student was shot several times during the crossfire. She is expected to make a full recovery.

Police said they are close to making the arrest of the second suspect.

Quite chilling that they were counting the bullets. Pity the second guy wasnt killed.

docdolittle

SoupyNorman wrote: »

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/19365762/detail.html







Quite chilling that they were counting the bullets. Pity the second guy wasnt killed.

is it quite bad that I had a tom jones song stuck in my head after reading his name?? :P

easyeason3

It pays to keep a gun nearby.

Galvasean

More guns for kids!

docdolittle

easyeason3 wrote: »

It pays to keep a gun nearby.

ah tom jones isn't that bad now

joey54

NRA membership is an essential these days.

TheZohanS

There's something not quite right about that story...

Sharpshooter

docdolittle wrote: »

is it quite bad that I had a tom jones song stuck in my head after reading his name?? :P

It's not unusual.

Senna

SoupyNorman wrote: »

Quite chilling that they were counting the bullets. Pity the second guy wasnt killed.

Counting bullets loudly to make them scared and killing 10 people are two very different things.

easyeason3

docdolittle wrote: »

ah tom jones isn't that bad now

I like to call mine 'Mr T'.

I'd love to meet the person to take him on

suckslikeafox

Today I learned a new word

cognizant

SoupyNorman

Senna wrote: »

Counting bullets loudly to make them scared and killing 10 people are two very different things.

Try be a cynic when one of the bullets is being counted out for you.

stovelid

Who in their right mind would be afraid of somebody called Calvin Lavant?

TheZohanS

stovelid wrote: »

Who in their right mind would be afraid of somebody called Calvin Lavant?

student Charles Bailey

suckslikeafox

stovelid wrote: »

Who in their right mind would be afraid of somebody called Calvin Lavant?

I assume he didn't introduce himself as he was making the robbery:D

Sharpshooter

stovelid wrote: »

Who in their right mind would be afraid of somebody called Calvin Lavant?

Whoever he was pointing the gun at, I would imagine.

Davei141

One female student was shot several times during the crossfire. She is expected to make a full recovery.

Wonder Woman?

netwhizkid

Good and it was a pity he did not kill the second person too. Imagine if this happened here, Tom Jones would probably get life in the "joy" for Murder while the liberal pinkos would martyrise the Invader as a victim of society similarly to when Padraig Nally shot that traveller dead up in Mayo. In america you can hold a gun for self defense in this country you need it for killing those bigger threats Rabbits or if you want a handgun run to the hills as the target boards are invading. In America each year Police kill something like 650 people, however around 9,500 and killed in self defence by gun yielding householders. Last time I needed the Gardai it took them 50mins to respond and two phone calls later to me to know where I was (Road accident). Not having GPS in our mobiles phones cost many lives also.

Fair play Mr. Jones! An ordinary gun yielding American using his 2nd amendment right exactly as it was designed for.

Mr.Lizard

I'll go out on a limb and guess that Charles Bailey and his buds were all respectable Republican WASPs and "Calvin Lavant" and his colleague were of the African American persuasion?

It's just that it all reads a bit too "some Peurto Rican guy" the way the killers recount the story.

Crann na Beatha

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Zillah

netwhizkid wrote: »

Good and it was a pity he did not kill the second person too. Imagine if this happened here, Tom Jones would probably get life in the "joy" for Murder while the liberal pinkos would martyrise the Invader as a victim of society similarly

You really don't know what liberalism is, do you?

Fair play Mr. Jones! An ordinary gun yielding American using his 2nd amendment right exactly as it was designed for.

One wields a weapon.

tony1kenobi

Mr.Lizard wrote: »

I'll go out on a limb and guess that Charles Bailey and his buds were all respectable Republican WASPs and "Calvin Lavant" and his colleague were of the African American persuasion?

It's just that it all reads a bit too "some Peurto Rican guy" the way the killers recount the story.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhh.....who cares?

thelordofcheese

netwhizkid wrote: »

Fair play Mr. Jones! An ordinary gun yielding American using his 2nd amendment right exactly as it was designed for.

he was part of a well regulated militia?

SoupyNorman

netwhizkid wrote: »

Good and it was a pity he did not kill the second person too. Imagine if this happened here, Tom Jones would probably get life in the "joy" for Murder while the liberal pinkos would martyrise the Invader as a victim of society similarly to when Padraig Nally shot that traveller dead up in Mayo. In america you can hold a gun for self defense in this country you need it for killing those bigger threats Rabbits or if you want a handgun run to the hills as the target boards are invading. In America each year Police kill something like 650 people, however around 9,500 and killed in self defence by gun yielding householders. Last time I needed the Gardai it took them 50mins to respond and two phone calls later to me to know where I was (Road accident). Not having GPS in our mobiles phones cost many lives also.

Fair play Mr. Jones! An ordinary gun yielding American using his 2nd amendment right exactly as it was designed for.

Nice post


... but Tom Jones was the reporter.

Sharpshooter

Quote taken from OP.
That’s when one student grabbed a gun out of a backpack and shot at the invader who was watching the men. The gunman ran out of the apartment.

So no one thought to ask how the student knew there was a gun in this backpack?

Davei141

Mr.Lizard wrote: »

I'll go out on a limb and guess that Charles Bailey and his buds were all respectable Republican WASPs and "Calvin Lavant" and his colleague were of the African American persuasion?

It's just that it all reads a bit too "some Peurto Rican guy" the way the killers recount the story.

Yeah i hear ya man. I think those 2 guys were just looking for some fried chicken and watermellon. Cant a brother get some chicken without being shot at?

sheesh

Sharpshooter wrote: »

Quote taken from OP.
That’s when one student grabbed a gun out of a backpack and shot at the invader who was watching the men. The gunman ran out of the apartment.

So no one thought to ask how the student knew there was a gun in this backpack?

I'm tempted to say all the back packs had guns!:D but if its his home he is entitled to have a gun there.

As far as I know in america if they break into your house you can shoot them so there is nothing suspicious there. its defense of property.

PK2008

The hero is gonna get some serious college poontang at the next party!!

Sharpshooter

sheesh wrote: »

I'm tempted to say all the back packs had guns!:D but if its his home he is entitled to have a gun there.

As far as I know in america if they break into your house you can shoot them so there is nothing suspicious there. its defense of property.

I guess what got me wondering was the fact that they say A backpack and not his backpack.

Mr.Lizard

Sharpshooter wrote: »

I guess what got me wondering was the fact that they say A backpack and not his backpack.

They're required to say that. Much as the airlines are required to say "A dildo" and not "YOUR dildo".

Sharpshooter

Why, if it was his they would have said so.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

Mr.Lizard wrote: »

I'll go out on a limb and guess that Charles Bailey and his buds were all respectable Republican WASPs and "Calvin Lavant" and his colleague were of the African American persuasion?

It's just that it all reads a bit too "some Peurto Rican guy" the way the killers recount the story.

I agree, black people never commit crimes. Shame on anyone who believed these dirty white murderers.

Manic Moran

thelordofcheese wrote: »

he was part of a well regulated militia?

As a college-aged American male with, presumably, no crippling disabilities, then yes, he is, by law. See Title 10 US Code S 311.

Either way, the Supreme Court has ruled that the 2nd also covers the right of persons to defend themselves.

In America each year Police kill something like 650 people, however around 9,500 and killed in self defence by gun yielding householders.

Those figures don't look right. The householder figure seems far too high. (That said, if you look up the figures for 'Defensive gun uses', in which a firearm is produced for defence but not necessarily discharged, the figures are in the millions per year)

NTM

itsallaboutheL

what kinda self-respecting student has enough money to buy a gun, and then on top of it sleeps at home

thelordofcheese

Manic Moran wrote: »

As a college-aged American male with, presumably, no crippling disabilities, then yes, he is, by law. See Title 10 US Code S 311.

If every college aged american male is in the millitia by law, then i think we can dispense with the "well regulated" part.

jimi_t

I'm both ecstatic and slightly appalled that there is, in fact, a real "Channel 2 Action News"...

Manic Moran

thelordofcheese wrote: »

If every college aged american male is in the millitia by law, then i think we can dispense with the "well regulated" part.

It's regulated, it's very clear who's a member of the militia, and it's often enforced. For example, the penalties for failing to sign up for Selective Service can haunt you for life. It didn't say it had to be 'filled with mature, non-hormone-intoxicated people'

NTM

BJC

SoupyNorman wrote: »

Pity the second guy wasnt killed.

A life not violently ended is never a pity.

Overheal

Shocking.

An American Gun Thread where everyone is applauding. Even with the crossfired girl - ouch she'll be venerated around campus too though.

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

what kinda self-respecting student has enough money to buy a gun, and then on top of it sleeps at home

They can be expensive and they can be cheap. Eyed one in the pawn shop the other day for $170. Ammo can be got for $10. And presumably the license to own and conceal would be a reasonable fee. Plus depending on what kinda parents he has they could have helped him with the purchase. We gave our sister a stun gun for Christmas.

Manic Moran wrote: »

It's regulated, it's very clear who's a member of the militia, and it's often enforced. For example, the penalties for failing to sign up for Selective Service can haunt you for life. It didn't say it had to be 'filled with mature, non-hormone-intoxicated people'

NTM

Is that something I did when I got my Drivers License or do I need to go do something formal tomorrow?

netwhizkid

Zillah wrote: »

You really don't know what liberalism is, do you?



One wields a weapon.

Liberalism boils down to egalitarianism and equality. It is a term invented by nut jobs in America to prevent themselves getting called what they really are communists. They believe that all people are equal which they are until the come out of the womb, then it all changes. Their the sort of people believe in no religion or will defend human rights abuses in the name of it like Islam but usually condemn Christianty. They favour mass unrestricted immigration, criticising and condemning the majority and always defending the minority no matter what they done and blaming it all on Society and capitalism. Most liberals are complete utter hypocrites who are mega rich are pretend to give a care about the less well off. The true conservative cares usually out of compassionate religion but will have to honesty to tell you he is going to tax you and make profit if it is there. Liberals want more state regulation, conservatives want less. Personal liberties are also something both sides hold and have differing views.

Anyways I know my Nanci Pelosi's from my Margaret Thatchers thank you very much and the societal ideologies associated with each. Anyways back on topic

also I never spotted Tom Jones was the editor, sorry about that one;)

minidazzler

Overheal wrote: »

Shocking.

An American Gun Thread where everyone is applauding. Even with the crossfired girl - ouch she'll be venerated around campus too though.

They can be expensive and they can be cheap. Eyed one in the pawn shop the other day for $170. Ammo can be got for $10. And presumably the license to own and conceal would be a reasonable fee. Plus depending on what kinda parents he has they could have helped him with the purchase. We gave our sister a stun gun for Christmas.


Is that something I did when I got my Drivers License or do I need to go do something formal tomorrow?

Are you an akshual Am Er Ikan or on a green card? If on a green card then IIRC you sign it when you go through the interview.

thelordofcheese

netwhizkid wrote: »

It is a term invented by nut jobs in America to prevent themselves getting called what they really are communists.

good one, i needed a giggle.



........you're not joking, are you.

Overheal

minidazzler wrote: »

Am Er Ikan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brj2UkUPjCI

netwhizkid wrote: »

Liberalism boils down to egalitarianism and equality. It is a term invented by nut jobs in America to prevent themselves getting called what they really are communists. They believe that all people are equal which they are until the come out of the womb, then it all changes. Their the sort of people believe in no religion or will defend human rights abuses in the name of it like Islam but usually condemn Christianty. They favour mass unrestricted immigration, criticising and condemning the majority and always defending the minority no matter what they done and blaming it all on Society and capitalism. Most liberals are complete utter hypocrites who are mega rich are pretend to give a care about the less well off. The true conservative cares usually out of compassionate religion but will have to honesty to tell you he is going to tax you and make profit if it is there. Liberals want more state regulation, conservatives want less. Personal liberties are also something both sides hold and have differing views.

Anyways I know my Nanci Pelosi's from my Margaret Thatchers thank you very much and the societal ideologies associated with each. Anyways back on topic

also I never spotted Tom Jones was the editor, sorry about that one;)

I don't know what you've been smoking (salvia?) and I also have no idea what ANY of that has to do with the thread.

I'm henceforth suing you for the 73 brain cells I just lost trying to process this garbage.

SoupyNorman

Mental note:



Do not use the word 'Liberalism' when netwhizkid is about...he'll try to be all smartzy.

Zillah

netwhizkid wrote: »

Liberalism boils down to egalitarianism and equality. It is a term invented by nut jobs in America to prevent themselves getting called what they really are communists. They believe that all people are equal which they are until the come out of the womb, then it all changes. Their the sort of people believe in no religion or will defend human rights abuses in the name of it like Islam but usually condemn Christianty. They favour mass unrestricted immigration, criticising and condemning the majority and always defending the minority no matter what they done and blaming it all on Society and capitalism. Most liberals are complete utter hypocrites who are mega rich are pretend to give a care about the less well off. The true conservative cares usually out of compassionate religion but will have to honesty to tell you he is going to tax you and make profit if it is there. Liberals want more state regulation, conservatives want less. Personal liberties are also something both sides hold and have differing views.

Uh huh. So yeah, you have no idea what liberalism is.

omyatari

might go gun-shopping for my man's birthday.
get a shotgun or two.

docdolittle

docdolittle wrote: »

ah tom jones isn't that bad now

hee hee brilliant

netwhizkid

Manic Moran wrote: »

As a college-aged American male with, presumably, no crippling disabilities, then yes, he is, by law. See Title 10 US Code S 311.

Either way, the Supreme Court has ruled that the 2nd also covers the right of persons to defend themselves.



Those figures don't look right. The householder figure seems far too high. (That said, if you look up the figures for 'Defensive gun uses', in which a firearm is produced for defence but not necessarily discharged, the figures are in the millions per year)

NTM

Yes my figures are wrong I misquoted when typing that, my 9,500 fiqure ranges from 9,500 thousand to 11,500 people who commit suicide using guns. Also around 9,500 use guns in self defense discharging them without death to the assailant. Many more are frightened and apprehended by the private gun owners of america. Around 200 to 300 are justifiable homicides annually in the United States.

SoWatchaWant

I don't like guns, but... this story makes me smile. Bravo.

Manic Moran

Overheal wrote: »

Is that something I did when I got my Drivers License or do I need to go do something formal tomorrow?

Here in California, a driver's license did not sign you up. Actually, I got lucky: I was signed up for it when I joined the military, about two months before my window for enrollment passed. I've run into a few situations since (usually job-seeking or security-clearance related) where the question "What's your Selective Service Number, or if not available, what is your legal reason for not having one?" has come up. Up until then, I had thought I was ineligible due to not being in the US betwee 18 and 21.

However, they make it simple.
http://www.sss.gov/

You can check to see if you're already registered with the link on the top right. If not, there's a link on the top left for you to do so.

If you do not register, you could be prosecuted and fined up to $250,000 and/or be put in jail for up to five years. Registration is also a requirement to qualify for Federal student aid, job training benefits, and most Federal employment.

Different States may do it differently, but bear in mind that Selective Service is a Federal thing, and driver's licenses are State functions.

In your case, it may depend on what age you were when you got your license.

South Carolina: On June 5, 2002, Gov. Jim Hodges signed into law a bill that requires South Carolina men, 18 through 25 years old, to be registered to obtain a state driver's license.

NTM

skywalker_208

sheesh wrote: »

As far as I know in america if they break into your house you can shoot them so there is nothing suspicious there. its defense of property.

But you can get arrested here if you give them a box... or if they cut their hand on the glass while breaking your windows...

Padraig Nally is a hero..