New You Gym, Baggot Street, D2

namaimo

Hi All,

I'm just wondering has anyone ever used New You gym on Baggot Street? http://www.newyou.ie/

I need to lose about 4 stone and I have tried everything! Gyms/protein diets/ weight watchers etc. and I read an ad for this place in the back of the Irish Times and I'm just wondering does anyone know anything about it? Or even better has used it?

It seems pretty expensive €940 a month!

Thanks

Edwardius

namaimo wrote: »

It seems pretty expensive €940 a month!

Thanks

Hoooooo hooho a grand a month? Guess you'll get lighter without all that money in your pocket.

cardio,shoot me

pure waste of cash imo, just join a regular gym.

MagicMarker

namaimo wrote: »

It seems pretty expensive €940 a month!

lol....

Now seriously, wtf are you even thinking?

No amount of money spent per month is going to shed the weight, YOU'RE the only one that can do that, there is NO easy solution.

The only thing you're lacking is will power, ''oh I've tried everything''... bollocks.

You either want it, or you don't.

floggg

Na na na na na na na na na... Leader. Just read through their website and it seems decidly cult-ish! Psychological profiles in a gym? Sounds like educo rebranded or tony quinn has a new rival.

OP - i reckon you would be much better off joining a regular gym with less cult-ish tendencies and using the money you will save on joining fee to book in for a few sessions with a personal trainer. Raw gym on south richmond st is only a 10mins walk from there and the staff there are quite knowledgable. You could also use the money saved to book into some classes

Transform

book a session with a trainer in the gym and post up your current diet here. Use here for support and the trainer to kick your ass.

As magic marker has said - if you want it there are no excuses you just are putting other things before your health.

Jimmy Bottlehead

From the site...

Thanks to the internet and many so called experts frequenting gyms and media there’s an enormous amount of information on weight loss training and diet etc. However a lot of information comes from anecdotes and opinions of individuals rather than from more valuable information attained from concise scientific research.

My name is John Kavanagh and the co owner of New You personal training .Since 1985 I have been applying the fundamentals of Math, Physics and Physiology to the issues of physical conditioning. I’m an advocate of science measurement and analysis of what really works in the gym, with nutrition and particularly of finding methods of making training more effective and efficient

The fact of the matter is this …. Lean Tissue Burns Fat and lots of it .It also gives structure and shape to your body and leaves you stronger so you have lots of energy to do the things you enjoy. Some people have a latent fear of the word muscle and are afraid they might get bulky and muscle bound. It just doesn’t work like that.

People say to me they just want to tone up and lose fat .The truth is you really cant achieve either on a treadmill or with aimless gym workouts or through dieting methods that deplete the body and slow down your metabolic rate.

Wow, we should... build muscle to.... tone up? Stupid Boards.ie telling me Lipotrim was the way to go!

namaimo

Hmmm I think I should have left out the cost for more balanced comments on what service they actually provide. I mean its not just a gym. From what I can tell its 3 gym sessions per week with a personal trainer, an initial complete health screening from a nurse, a diet plan, guidance etc.

I know its huge money (I think it reduces after the first month) but I was just wondering since they claim to have been in operation since 2003 had anyone used it/heard of someone who used it etc.

Thanks.

crotalus667

namaimo wrote: »

Hmmm I think I should have left out the cost for more balanced comments on what service they actually provide. I mean its not just a gym. From what I can tell its 3 gym sessions per week with a personal trainer, an initial complete health screening from a nurse, a diet plan, guidance etc.

I know its huge money (I think it reduces after the first month) but I was just wondering since they claim to have been in operation since 2003 had anyone used it/heard of someone who used it etc.

Thanks.

What does it reduce to and how many sessions do you get + how often do you get them ??

Mickk

namaimo wrote: »

Hmmm I think I should have left out the cost for more balanced comments on what service they actually provide. I mean its not just a gym. From what I can tell its 3 gym sessions per week with a personal trainer, an initial complete health screening from a nurse, a diet plan, guidance etc.

I know its huge money (I think it reduces after the first month) but I was just wondering since they claim to have been in operation since 2003 had anyone used it/heard of someone who used it etc.

Thanks.

It is actually a good little gym, John has been in the game for years and knows his stuff. They have quality trainers who actually work for themselves inthere so it's not just some kid just out of a course getting 10 euro an hour wages while you pay 60-70 to the gym for PT. One lad it there is crossfit qualified, they have decent dumbbells, power racks and plate loaded equipment and concept2 rowers ect.

floggg

namaimo wrote: »

Hmmm I think I should have left out the cost for more balanced comments on what service they actually provide. I mean its not just a gym. From what I can tell its 3 gym sessions per week with a personal trainer, an initial complete health screening from a nurse, a diet plan, guidance etc.

I know its huge money (I think it reduces after the first month) but I was just wondering since they claim to have been in operation since 2003 had anyone used it/heard of someone who used it etc.

Thanks.

Its not the price that would be me off (ok not only the price) - its the quasi-scientific new-age psycholgical profiling movementarian babble that i saw from flicking thhrough the site that would worry me.

At the end of the day, despite what the will tell you, there is no new sciences, mathemathical formula, technogical reasons, or psychological break throughs to weight loss and getting in shape. the key is a good diet, calorie deficit and plenty of exercise. this can all be done in a regular gym. if you ask any of the qualfied personal trainers on here, the will all tell you the same thing. and by all accounts there are some very good ones on here, who are well respected within the fitness industry and with very good qualifications.

personally, i would be wary of the motives, intentions and sincerety of anybody offering a psychological profiling. it is completely unnecssary at a gym - i imagine it is to attract people who would like to think there is some "psychological" reason why they're out of shape, rather than admit that the just haven''t put the work in on either the exercise or diet front.

And as i highly that that they have a trained psychologist working there, i would doubt that they are even qualified to give it. i would similarly be worried about the qualifications/motives of the doctor they sign you up to. if you feel you would like a medical assessment before starting to exercise, you should go to you're own doctor - at least you know he won't have an agenda.

Thats what i take issue with. i just fear that this type of thing is designed with fancy buzz words and offers the world, but at best, will just repackage the same basic fitness programmes you would get in any gym for triple the price!

Anyway, from what i've read about the gym programme, it seems this focus on "intensity" is similar in concept to "CrossFit" style training. Maybe PM Colm O Reilly, who CrossFit Ireland. He would probably give you a similar type of training, for half the price, and without the Scientology tendancies!

MagicMarker

namaimo wrote: »

Hmmm I think I should have left out the cost for more balanced comments on what service they actually provide. I mean its not just a gym. From what I can tell its 3 gym sessions per week with a personal trainer, an initial complete health screening from a nurse, a diet plan, guidance etc.

I know its huge money (I think it reduces after the first month) but I was just wondering since they claim to have been in operation since 2003 had anyone used it/heard of someone who used it etc.

Thanks.

g'em

Wow, this forum is getting really cynical!

I'll say from the start that a good friend of mine works with these guys so I'm probably a little biased as far as he's concerned, but having said that I've had many an argument with him along much the same lines as what's been posted. At the end of the day though NewYou is a very well run and very effective (albeit very expensive) gym. As Mickk said the reason it's so expensive is because every session is one-on-one with a PT. Is it better than anything you'd get in a regular gym? It isn't equipment wise, but what you're paying for is the service and the exclusivity. I haven't been in the new premises but I was in the old one around the corner and it's really rather plush and fancy - that may mean little or nothing to some, but as a girl I have to genuinely admit it was lovely going into the changing room and having a whole range of top of the range beauty products to use as I pleased

It's not cult-ish, it's just intense and hte trainers expect a lot of their clients. They don't offer anything new or groundbreaking, but it's the one-one-one time that does make a difference which they're offering.

The big difference between them and TQ is that they use regular gym equipment and emphasise a good diet, not supplements.

floggg wrote: »

personally, i would be wary of the motives, intentions and sincerety of anybody offering a psychological profiling. it is completely unnecssary at a gym - i imagine it is to attract people who would like to think there is some "psychological" reason why they're out of shape, rather than admit that the just haven''t put the work in on either the exercise or diet front.

I know they have a full-time nurse on staff to do health screenings for all clients so it wouldn't suprise me at all if htey had a psychologist too.

You can certainly get brilliant achievements on your own after reading and educating yourself, but if you can afford to pay someone else to do it for you there are worse folk you can go to for it.

floggg

I will be the first to admit i have no actual experience of this gym, and so my conclusions are only pure speculation. I know both G'em and Mickk are very knowledgeable and experienced on the fitness front, so if they are saying its good, then i'm sure it probably is.

I will say though, that if you do a bit of research yourself, and are fairly committe to getting fit, you shouldn't necessarily need all the extra, such as psychological screening and a one on one with a PT for every sessin, and could probably get better value elsewhere, but if you are think that those extras are worth the extra membership fee, then go for it.

Hanley

Seems expensive, but also legit from what people are saying.

Another avenue is to join a gym and get a PT 3-4x a week.

Gym Membership: €700pa (high balling here), so €58pm
PT: €70 per session (say) x3 = €210 per week, x4 = €840 per month

So even in a big box gym you're looking at circa €900 per month.

Not THAT much of a rip off by comparison. Especially if they've a proven track record. But as always, the results you get will be a product of your own making. If you're gonna do it, listen to them and do exactly what they say.

crotalus667

Hanley wrote: »

Not THAT much of a rip off by comparison. Especially if they've a proven track record. .

Your right it’s the track record that counts, after that it’s all on the effort you put in , you could walk into a gym (a well known chain ) and get pt sessions for 40 an hour and all you really know is the person has enough paper behind them to keep the insurance company happy and is paying their rent to the gym:(

floggg

Oh ****! I just realised that €940 was per MONTH! i saw the figure it just assumed it was per year!!!

I love my gym - €29 per month student membership!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope they don't see this - they'll start thinking about raising prices!

davmol

940 a month?!!!! Holy sh*t!!

I bought a house paying roughly that,you should do the same, the stress with bills ,getting it done up etc will make you skinny in no time!!

namaimo

Thanks to everyone for all the advice and esp to those who have heard something about NewYou or know John the owner.

From what I understand its 12 sessions in a month. That is 3 sessions with a PT/ week.

A nurse will also assess you in the beginning to take your BMI/ Fat %/ Lean Muscle % etc and following that a nutrition plan is tailor made for you.

I think that after a month the idea is that you have made such a dent in your weight loss and that they have equipped you with a training programme and nutrition plan that you can then take those skills with you to your own (cheaper!) gym to continue. This is what Ive gathered on the phone but I hope to make an apt to see the place.

k101

anyone end up giving this place a go ? how did you find it ?

squod

Do people really go for this sort of thing? I suppose hollywood celebs fork out similar amounts of dosh on this kind of 8ullsh1t.
How many of these people are there over here anyway. I gotta get a piece of this action someday. It just sounds like a fantastic way to make loads'a dosh.

Bodysmart

John Kavanagh is an ex professional bodybuilder. As you'd expect from one, he puts a huge emphasis on eating protein.

At New You, he also markets high-protein/low carb meals which you order from a menu. He also sells protein shakes to his clients.

The trainers are very good and know their stuff. 1 of them is really into Crossfit, having trained in it when he lived in America.

They're obviously targetting people within the corporate market,who can afford their prices. It's a niche target market and absolutely not the mass market conventional gyms caters for.

Hope that helps,

Paul

coba

Hi all,

Setting aside the "are you mad" comments which might follow, I've signed up for the 12 session program in NewYou this week and finished my first session.
I can confirm that the program is based on 5 regular meals a day, on a particular diet (nothing weird), plus 3 x 30 mins gym sessions a week.
The idea is to get great results in a short period, (usually fat reduction) and you learn how to effectively train during the course, therefore you come out of it with the feeling of the benefit of having achieved that great feeling of what a proper diet and training program can do.

After the program you then gave the confidence and knowledge to continue. Confidence and knowledge are the thing here. If you do something for 3-6 months and you don't really think you have achieved anything then you are likely to stop.

I don't need to loose fat, but need to gain muscle. I also want to learn a very effective 30 min training session I can use at home, and really get used to eating regular , portion sized, and healthy meals (something that takes time to learn)

I've paid the full price BTW, so I'm not sponsored.
Fingers crossed I will get the boost and the knowledge I need.
I'll update along the way here.
Ask me any questions you like as well.

Colm

G86

I can understand that you can get to that point where you'll just try anything that you think might work, but you have to try sit back and be logical about it too. Unless you're pure loaded, €940 is a hell of alot of money, especially when there are more cost efficient ways of achieving your goals.

You don't need a PT to babysit you through every single session, why don't you join a regular gym and book a PT for once month. You can get a decent program and technique instruction in the first session and then then use the monthly sessions to keep you motivated if that's what you need.

Alternatively you also have the likes of Crossfit and Informed Performance who offer ongoing training/coaching and personalised testing/programs at a far more reasonable rate.

Seriously, just weigh up your options first.

Barry.Oglesby

It's an upmarket gym, so it's more expensive. I know guys who have and do work there and they were all good lads who knew their ****. Just cos it's expensive doesn't mean it's bad.

Zamboni

G86 wrote: »

Alternatively you also have the likes of Crossfit and Informed Performance who offer ongoing training/coaching and personalised testing/programs at a far more reasonable rate.

To add to this, there are also hundreds of other providers of the exact same services as mentioned apart from CFI and IP.

ragg

That is seriously expensive. In fact, it's shocked me that there are people who would even pay it. Maybe I'm not their target market, but it boggles my mind that people would pay so much money to drop a few KG's.

G86

ragg wrote: »

That is seriously expensive. In fact, it's shocked me that there are people who would even pay it. Maybe I'm not their target market, but it boggles my mind that people would pay so much money to drop a few KG's.

I guess it's the same people who are forking out for Lipo. The 'quick fix' brigade. People need to realise that it doesn't matter how much money you pay, there are no quick fixes.

coba

Hi guys,
I know this would stimulate a lot of comment!
The main point of my post was to let people know that Ive started the program, and that I'll post updates, for those who might be thinking of this or another similar intensive specialised gym program, with a guided diet.

As I mentioned I'm not in it to loose a few kgs (Ive 21% body fat, not calculated by a bmi method bt, so its fine).
I want to learn the methods they use(and then continue it at home without having to buy a gym membership), plus its about learning and changing ( and implementing) diet habits , and getting ongoing input on this.

I'm not going to justify the price, but getting a few PT sessions isn't the same thing as what I am doing.
What I want are good enough results to spur me on, coupled with the knowledge and discipline to continue it. I don't have knowledge or discipline in diet or exercise, so I want to learn and experience it first.

This is by no means for everyone, it is expensive, there are other options, some cheaper, some better. It is what it is.

I'm as sceptical as the rest but I'm going to give it a good lash ( the money is a big incentive:D
So maybe I'm nuts , but lets see what this program can achieve (or not) eh?

g'em

G86 wrote: »

I guess it's the same people who are forking out for Lipo. The 'quick fix' brigade. People need to realise that it doesn't matter how much money you pay, there are no quick fixes.

I wouldn't agree with that tbh, although I know people who've both worked in and trained at New You gym - so do you actually, you just might not realise it

A lot of the clientele in New You are long-termers, they're just people who genuinely like having someone to watch over them every time they train, for whatever reason. Is it an unnecessarily expensive way of doing things? Oh hell yeah, but I don't think it's fair to brand everyone who wants to avail of these services as quick-fixers. Some people just rather pay for having everything laid out for them.

G86

g'em wrote: »

I wouldn't agree with that tbh, although I know people who've both worked in and trained at New You gym - so do you actually, you just might not realise it

A lot of the clientele in New You are long-termers, they're just people who genuinely like having someone to watch over them every time they train, for whatever reason. Is it an unnecessarily expensive way of doing things? Oh hell yeah, but I don't think it's fair to brand everyone who wants to avail of these services as quick-fixers. Some people just rather pay for having everything laid out for them.

If someone wants to pay that much, then fair enough, it's personal choice. But what I'm saying is that regardless of what progress they have made/are making there, they could make the same progress somewhere else for a lot less money.

g'em

G86 wrote: »

If someone wants to pay that much, then fair enough, it's personal choice. But what I'm saying is that regardless of what progress they have made/are making there, they could make the same progress somewhere else for a lot less money.

And possibly in far more time With a gym like that - or in fact with any gym that you get regular sessions with a dedicated PT who knows what they're doing - you cut down on the faffing and experimenting and time it takes to figure out what works; you're paying someone to do all that for you.

As I said, I completely agree that it's an expensive thing to do but I can see the allure - I don't think it's fair for anyone to be lambasted for choosing an option like this just because it costs a lot of money (that's not directed at you personally btw )

G86

g'em wrote: »

And possibly in far more time With a gym like that - or in fact with any gym that you get regular sessions with a dedicated PT who knows what they're doing - you cut down on the faffing and experimenting and time it takes to figure out what works; you're paying someone to do all that for you.

As I said, I completely agree that it's an expensive thing to do but I can see the allure - I don't think it's fair for anyone to be lambasted for choosing an option like this just because it costs a lot of money (that's not directed at you personally btw )

I do get what you're saying , and I agree personal training is worth the extra money - sure I had it for 2 years myself, albeit on a more cost effective basis. But in fairness, even with a PT it's going to take a while to learn what works for you, no-one knows your body better than you do. I agree that it's a personal choice, however in my opinion I think the OP should look at all of the other options available to them before committing to €940 p/m.

SanoVitae

G86 wrote: »

No-one knows your body better than you do.

I would like to think a doctor or medical surgeon would...;)

Hanley

SanoVitae wrote: »

I would like to think a doctor or medical surgeon would...;)

It's pretty obvious she was talking in regards to training adaptation.

SanoVitae

Hanley wrote: »

It's pretty obvious she was talking in regards to training adaptation.

It's also pretty obvious I was kidding - hence the wink icon and not the roll-eyes one.

SanoVitae

NewYou also have high-protein meals which you can order through them.

They are aiming at a tiny percentage of the population who can easily afford to pay for their training, meals and supplements. I know a couple of their trainers and they are excellent.

G86

SanoVitae wrote: »

They are aiming at a tiny percentage of the population who can easily afford to pay for their training, meals and supplements. I know a couple of their trainers and they are excellent.

I'm honestly not disputing that at all, I'm sure the trainers are of an excellent standard. I just think that places like that are a beacon to people who want their hand held down to sub 20% bodyfat. That's fine in the short-term, and I'm sure they'd do so with a month in NewYou, but what happens when they're left to their own devices? I do get that alot of people have no interest, and simply want someone to tell them what to do, and I agree that this service caters for those people. I just find it sad that more and more people are happy to be spoon-fed, and have no interest in learning more and educating themselves about their training and lifestyle choices.

Sure you could complete an exercise and nutrition course in a few months for less money, and come out of it with a cert as well as a more informed insight into your training which might result in a more permanent lifestyle change, as opopsed to a 1/2 month bootcamp type scenario.

coba

G86 wrote: »

I just find it sad that more and more people are happy to be spoon-fed, and have no interest in learning more educating themselves about their training and lifestyle choices.

Sure you could complete an exercise and nutrition course in a few months for less money, and come out of it with a cert as well as a more informed insight into your training which might result in a more permanent lifestyle change, as opopsed to a 1/2 month bootcamp type scenario.

Cheer G86!
If you read why I said i was doing the thing, you would have seen that my goal was to experience and learn how to continue the thing.............

I guess many people here , maybe yourself included, are fit, are into fitness, know their stuff etc. I'm an amateur.
I'm more into experiencing something as the way to learn, I'm not one for reading and going to get a cert etc.
That just works for me.
As I said, I know its expensive, I know its not everyone's cup of tea, but don't just slag it off because you think there are certain types using this or that everyone is capable of reading up on fitness and then just launches into it.
Running and cycling are free and great. I want to learn the latest effective techniques from the guys there, and see if I can take it forward.
Different strokes m8

G86

coba wrote: »

Cheer G86!
If you read why I said i was doing the thing, you would have seen that my goal was to experience and learn how to continue the thing.............

I guess many people here , maybe yourself included, are fit, are into fitness, know their stuff etc. I'm an amateur.
I'm more into experiencing something as the way to learn, I'm not one for reading and going to get a cert etc.
That just works for me.
As I said, I know its expensive, I know its not everyone's cup of tea, but don't just slag it off because you think there are certain types using this or that everyone is capable of reading up on fitness and then just launches into it.
Running and cycling are free and great. I want to learn the latest effective techniques from the guys there, and see if I can take it forward.
Different strokes m8

That post wasn't directly aimed at you in fairness, it was a general observation and no offence was intended You've decided to try it and that's fair enough, and if it works out for you that's great! There's worse things you could be spending on. But the OP asked for opinions and I simply gave mine.

SanoVitae

G86 wrote: »

I just think that places like that are a beacon to people who want their hand held down to sub 20% bodyfat. That's fine in the short-term, and I'm sure they'd do so with a month in NewYou, but what happens when they're left to their own devices? I do get that alot of people have no interest, and simply want someone to tell them what to do, and I agree that this service caters for those people. I just find it sad that more and more people are happy to be spoon-fed, and have no interest in learning more and educating themselves about their training and lifestyle choices.

Some people need to be spoon-fed and won't do exercise regularly or eat in a healthy way otherwise. It's definitely frustrating for a personal trainer who lives for exercise and can't relate to their mindset at all.

However, part of the reason they are out of shape in the first place is because they have spent too much time working at their jobs. At the same time, this choice has made them enough money to easily afford spoon-feeding from a personal trainer!

willyg

If you are overweight you have probably being eating too much, eat less and cut out the rubbish, a bit of excercise is great, keep it simple

discus

I can't believe that the fitness board regulars aren't going ****ing ape**** at the thought of gym/weights newbies shelling out a grand a month for 3x training sessions a week combined with along with hand holding, psychological profiling and plush gym environment.

edit:

coba wrote:

I'm an amateur.

Everyone starts off as an amateur.

Transform

discus wrote: »

I can't believe that the fitness board regulars aren't going ****ing ape**** at the thought of gym/weights newbies shelling out a grand a month for 3x training sessions a week combined with along with hand holding, psychological profiling and plush gym environment.

edit:



Everyone starts off as an amateur.

I cant believe fitness boards regulars are not going ape sh... over newbies shelling out a grand a month on alcohol, junk food, protein supplements, fat loss supplements and all the other crap i cant think of right now.

who cares man - the people that can afford €1000 a month for training are in general NOT reading this forum! Most of their customers are professional people earning a great wage and can afford it who do not look on forums for answers but go to the back of the irish times or get recommendations from other people that regularly spend €1000 a month training.

I have clients that spend that in a month and not once would i call it hand holding, there are no free towels yet there is plenty of results, enjoyment and would you believe fun.

tomdublin

Bit of a cheesy name for a gym... sure it's no good

Transform

tomdublin wrote: »

Bit of a cheesy name for a gym... sure it's no good

well its one of the most profitable gyms in the country so something to learn there

dartstothesea

discus wrote: »

I can't believe that the fitness board regulars aren't going ****ing ape**** at the thought of gym/weights newbies shelling out a grand a month for 3x training sessions a week combined with along with hand holding, psychological profiling and plush gym environment.

I'm fairly sure at least one or two of the posters, in this thread at least, offer fitness instruction of some sort. Why would they say anything to generally discourage people willing to shell out mad billz for training - the very servce they could provide?
Psychological profiling, though? Whatcha mean?

coba

Thanks for the balanced view Gem.

I hadn't realised that the forum was only for professionals or those who are serious fitness bods, if I did i wouldn't have posted by few words.

This might express the overwhelmingly negative/slagging/"hand holding" type comments my Post generated.

Despite explaining that I was doing the course to "learn how to use weights and exercise properly and effectively, to get results, establish a habit, and learn about effective diets" most posters have come back with general denigrating comments along the lines of being lazy, needing someone to stand over you, waste of money, or general smart arse comments which proved they hadn't read what my goals were.

If all it took to learn new skills and implement life changing habits was to read books, go online and read stuff or "just go and do it" then there would be no need for colleges or schools or training programs of any kind.

As i said I know its expensive and not for everyone.

I might ask the question as to why probably over half the people who take out gym memberships, stop going afer 1-2 months.
I'd argue that they simply don't have the knowledge to learn how to exercise effectively, how to use machines correctly, what eating plans work, plus they don't establish a habit , nor see results that propel them forward.

Ah well I suppose it's all their own fault isn't it?

It must be great to be fit, be training regulary, be in the business, know the programms, have knowledge etc


Again, As i said I know its expensive and not for everyone, and I'm not 100% convinced of it myself, but its working for me, and I'm confident I can train on my own at home now, based on the habit ive established and detailed knowledge ive gained.

I've no doubt that someone will now come back with more of the same negative stuff we've seen on this post.

At least a couple of people have read what my goals were and have a more balanced view.

g'em wrote: »

And possibly in far more time With a gym like that - or in fact with any gym that you get regular sessions with a dedicated PT who knows what they're doing - you cut down on the faffing and experimenting and time it takes to figure out what works; you're paying someone to do all that for you.

As I said, I completely agree that it's an expensive thing to do but I can see the allure - I don't think it's fair for anyone to be lambasted for choosing an option like this just because it costs a lot of money (that's not directed at you personally btw )

TheZ

My own view is 12 sessions with a PT a month seems quite expensive and I am genuinely surprised that a market like Dublin supports this business model.

In the UK Matt Roberts is very succesful with a similar business model - one to one training only in his gyms but as far as I know it is not a monthly fee but you pay per session.

Prices there for comparison are

http://www.mattroberts.co.uk/london/default/prices.asp

INITIAL CONSULTATION
Includes Fitness Test, Dietary Analysis & Physiotherapy Screening
£185.00


PERSONAL TRAINING (payable in advance)
1 session (visitor rate)
£80.00

25 sessions
£1,650.00

50 sessions
£3,150.00

100 sessions
£6,000.00


SENIOR TRAINER
25 sessions
£1,825.00

50 sessions
£3,500.00

100 sessions

G86

coba wrote: »

Thanks for the balanced view Gem.

I hadn't realised that the forum was only for professionals or those who are serious fitness bods, if I did i wouldn't have posted by few words.

This might express the overwhelmingly negative/slagging/"hand holding" type comments my Post generated.

Despite explaining that I was doing the course to "learn how to use weights and exercise properly and effectively, to get results, establish a habit, and learn about effective diets" most posters have come back with general denigrating comments along the lines of being lazy, needing someone to stand over you, waste of money, or general smart arse comments which proved they hadn't read what my goals were.

If all it took to learn new skills and implement life changing habits was to read books, go online and read stuff or "just go and do it" then there would be no need for colleges or schools or training programs of any kind.

As i said I know its expensive and not for everyone.

I might ask the question as to why probably over half the people who take out gym memberships, stop going afer 1-2 months.
I'd argue that they simply don't have the knowledge to learn how to exercise effectively, how to use machines correctly, what eating plans work, plus they don't establish a habit , nor see results that propel them forward.

Ah well I suppose it's all their own fault isn't it?

It must be great to be fit, be training regulary, be in the business, know the programms, have knowledge etc


Again, As i said I know its expensive and not for everyone, and I'm not 100% convinced of it myself, but its working for me, and I'm confident I can train on my own at home now, based on the habit ive established and detailed knowledge ive gained.

I've no doubt that someone will now come back with more of the same negative stuff we've seen on this post.

At least a couple of people have read what my goals were and have a more balanced view.

I do think it's too expensive, but I'm sorry if I jumped down your throat about it. I've no right to be getting on my high horse, sure I'm relatively new to this craic myself. I think it's great that you're willing to invest that much in your health, and if it works then fair play to you. Also, I'd say knowing you've paid that much is great motivation if you ever feeling like quitting

All I'd say is that you should ask about everything and learn as much as you can, so that after a month or 2 you can progress on your own or with fewer sessions. That way, you'll have got the most out of your money as possible.

Wish you the very best of luck with it, let us know how you get on!