A Blasphemous Thread

drunkmonkey

What's the story with this new Blasphemous law Dermot Ahern is trying to bring in? What's his motovation, is he trying to wind this country back even further, were already back to 1913 due to the recession, this little beaut should bring us back to some time in the 1800's, or even just maybe Finna Fail is about to become a religious party...

Feel free to to be blasphemous..

DrumSteve

link or it isnt real.

biko

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2009/0429/1224245599892.html


A NEW crime of blasphemous libel is to be proposed by the Minister for Justice in an amendment to the Defamation Bill, which will be discussed by the Oireachtas committee on justice today.

At the moment there is no crime of blasphemy on the statute books, though it is prohibited by the Constitution.

Article 40 of the Constitution, guaranteeing freedom of speech, qualifies it by stating: “The State shall endeavour to ensure that organs of public opinion, such as the radio, the press, the cinema, while preserving their rightful liberty of expression, including criticism of Government policy, shall not be used to undermine public order or morality or the authority of the State.

“The publication or utterance of blasphemous, seditious, or indecent material is an offence which shall be punishable in accordance with law.”

TheZohanS

Dermot Ahern doesn't exist.

DevilsBreath

to slow today

El Weirdo

DrumSteve wrote: »

link or it isnt real.

Indeed. A link would be handy.

Edit: Oops... thanks for the link.

javaboy

Looks like he's trying to bring the laws into line with the constitution when it's obvious to everybody including the law reform people that it's the constitution that needs revising.

P.S. God is a wally

SoupyNorman

Magnus wrote: »

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A NEW crime of <SNIP> libel is to be proposed by the Minister for Justice in an amendment to the Defamation Bill, which will be discussed by the Oireachtas committee on justice today.

A NEW crime of <Priests buggering young children and ruining their lives forever> is to be proposed by the Minister for Justice in an amendment to the Defamation Bill, which will be discussed by the Oireachtas committee on justice today.

Slow Motion

He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!

5starpool

What a crock of crap.

If this is actually something that is likely to happen then I hope it equally applies to Jedi and the Flying Spaghetti Monster as well as all the other makey uppy things.

Indie18

Funny this all comes about a few weeks after someone draws a few pictures of Brian Cowen which he didn't like.

ScumLord

Fup him and the Jesus he rode in on.

Dartz

RTE 6one news, May 15th 2015..

"Ten irish protesters were arrested for blasphemy in the name of our Lord Cowen, peace be upon him. Stonings with turf sods live at 3 tomorrow. Brought to you by Boards.ie. If you're bored, click on boards."

m@cc@

Magnus wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2009/0429/1224245599892.html


A NEW crime of blasphemous libel is to be proposed by the Minister for Justice in an amendment to the Defamation Bill, which will be discussed by the Oireachtas committee on justice today.

At the moment there is no crime of blasphemy on the statute books, though it is prohibited by the Constitution.

Article 40 of the Constitution, guaranteeing freedom of speech, qualifies it by stating: “The State shall endeavour to ensure that organs of public opinion, such as the radio, the press, the cinema, while preserving their rightful liberty of expression, including criticism of Government policy, shall not be used to undermine public order or morality or the authority of the State.

“The publication or utterance of blasphemous, seditious, or indecent material is an offence which shall be punishable in accordance with law.”

I imagine the scene will be something like this when it is proposed...



It shouldn't be given the light of day in reporting.

Mr Benevolent

Censorship at last. Someone's been listening to me. Woohoo!

***CENSORED***

LeixlipRed

**** you Jesus!

RoadKillTs

JESUS CHRIST :eek:

m@cc@

In the 2008, the law in the Netherlands on blasphemy was lifted. The Minister of Justice Hirsh Ballin considered that 'no true deity would need human protection'. He speaks the truth.

javaboy

LeixlipRed wrote: »

**** you Jesus!

Ah come on lads. I don't want to have to go trawling back through posts deleting blasphemous comments when this thing comes in. Spare a thought for us poor mods.

m@cc@

javaboy wrote: »

Ah come on lads. I don't want to have to go trawling back through posts deleting blasphemous comments when this thing comes in. Spare a thought for us poor mods.

Don't even give a thought to them applying this law retrospectively. :eek::eek:

javaboy

m@cc@ wrote: »

Don't even give a thought to them applying this law retrospectively. :eek::eek:

It wouldn't have to be AFAIK. If the comment remains on Boards then it is essentially republished whenever someone loads that page regardless of when the comment was actually posted.

5318008!

Talk about a backward step. And this isn't his first either mind you. His views are obviously out of touch with 21st century ireland.

The holocaust never happened

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mike65

the Mothers of Seven shall nod with approval.

ART6

Quote:
“Blasphemous matter” is defined as matter “that is grossly abusive or insulting in relation to matters held sacred by any religion, thereby causing outrage among a substantial number of the adherents of that religion; and he or she intends, by the publication of the matter concerned, to cause such outrage.”

Apologies for copying & pasting, but it seems to me that the quote above is the dangerous bit. This law will not just protect Christianity by the sounds of it. It will also mean that if anyone makes a comment, for example about Islam, a religion that's easily offended, then he will be guilty of a crime. This could easily open the floodgates. How does someone prove that he didn't intend to cause "outrage"? Next step the Inquisition?:(

dez_warlock

Crap, does this mean I won't be able to wear these tshirts anymore??

http://www.lindqvist.com/b/wp-content/bilderfiler/gay-jesus-offends-christians.jpg

http://www.tshirthell.com/funny-shirts/mary-was-only-a-virgin-if-you-dont-count-anal/

m@cc@

javaboy wrote: »

It wouldn't have to be AFAIK. If the comment remains on Boards then it is essentially republished whenever someone loads that page regardless of when the comment was actually posted.

That can't be true, can it? So surely the same would apply to online media?

AnonoBoy

I was talking about this last night during my weekly orgy with Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed and the "virgin" Mary.

"I think it's a great idea," Jesus piped up as his testicles tickled my chin. "Nothing I hate more than blasphemy."

"I agree," replied Mohammed as he inserted a double-ended dildo into a laughing Buddha.

Mary remained silent. Well, it is hard to talk when you're.......

etc. etc. etc. etc.

Come and get me Mr. Ahern.

javaboy

m@cc@ wrote: »

That can't be true, can it? So surely the same would apply to online media?

Em yeah. Online media is what I was talking about.

P.S. I am not a lawyer and I'm making it up as I go along.

Pighead

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Come and get me Mr. Ahern.

Last May just called. He told me to tell you that you spelt Cowen wrong.

javaboy

Pighead wrote: »

Last May just called. He told me to tell you that you spelt Cowen wrong.

Try again piggy.

m@cc@

Pighead wrote: »

Last May just called. He told me to tell you that you spelt Cowen wrong.

Pighead should have read the OP first.

Pighead

javaboy just called. He told Pighead to tell Pighead that he spelt Cowan wrong.

javaboy

Pighead wrote: »

javaboy just called. He told Pighead to tell Pighead that he spelt Cowan wrong.

Que?

Pighead

javaboy wrote: »

Que?

Can't talk javaboy. Have just made a haimes of everything. Will be back later on when this all blows over.

togster

Susan Boyle is a uni-browed mutt with an average singing voice.

Stercus Accidit

Pighead wrote: »

javaboy just called. He told Pighead to tell Pighead that he spelt Cowan wrong.

The OP just called, he said 'read me first FFS, the jokes can come later'.

drunkmonkey

ART6 wrote: »

Quote:
“Blasphemous matter” is defined as matter “that is grossly abusive or insulting in relation to matters held sacred by any religion, thereby causing outrage among a substantial number of the adherents of that religion

In theroy you could say the criminal justice bill (it is written) would be Blasphemous against Rastafarians as it demonizes part of their religion.

Would I be correct in my thinking?

Indie18

Pighead wrote: »

Can't talk javaboy. Have just made a haimes of everything. Will be back later on when this all blows over.

Pighead I would say lie low in Mexico for a while but its probably not the safest place for you of all people to be.

The_Minister

Indie18 wrote: »

Funny this all comes about a few weeks after someone draws a few pictures of Brian Cowen which he didn't like.

Unless your opinion of Brian Cowan is far, far higher then mine - I wouldn't worry.

Pighead

Stercus Accidit wrote: »

The OP just called, he said 'read me first FFS, the jokes can come later'.

Pighead deserved that. drunkmonkey you're right, Pighead should have read the OP instead of getting all smarmy with AnonoBoy. In future Pighead vows to thoroughly read all OP's before wading in with his big size 10's.

Now back on topic, have they found a cure for this horrible Swine Flu yet?

My name is URL

Dermot Ahern always seemed like a fair & level headed guy, compared to most politicians.

I can't believe he's pushing this legislation through.

What about documentaries about evolution etc... will they be considered blasphemous and banned?

Dyr

Ireland is a privately owned site, there is no right to freedom of speech. Read the FAQ FFS.

javaboy

My name is URL wrote: »

What about documentaries about evolution etc... will they be considered blasphemous and banned?

Are you suggesting that God isn't capable of coming up with the concept of evolution? Cos that's blasphemy that is! :mad:

The_Minister

I think that most of you will find that blasphemy is a very high standard.

Fr. Ted - Not blasphemous.
Pope Town (or whatever that crap cartoon that Channel 4 made was) - probably.

Documentaries about evolution - Doubt it.

You must remember that the courts will be the ones determining exactly what blasphemous means, and they will probably set the bar very high.

Iang87

AnonoBoy wrote: »

I was talking about this last night during my weekly orgy with Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed and the "virgin" Mary.

"I think it's a great idea," Jesus piped up as his testicles tickled my chin. "Nothing I hate more than blasphemy."

"I agree," replied Mohammed as he inserted a double-ended dildo into a laughing Buddha.

Mary remained silent. Well, it is hard to talk when you're.......

etc. etc. etc. etc.

Come and get me Mr. Ahern.

dez_warlock wrote: »

Crap, does this mean I won't be able to wear these tshirts anymore??

http://www.lindqvist.com/b/wp-content/bilderfiler/gay-jesus-offends-christians.jpg

http://www.tshirthell.com/funny-shirts/mary-was-only-a-virgin-if-you-dont-count-anal/

if this law means i dont get to see pure genius posts like these then they can lock me up with the bishop and throw away the key

chopperbyrne

Has he taken into account people who are grossly offended by religious teachings and would consider them blasphemous?

AnonoBoy

My name is URL wrote: »

What about documentaries about evolution etc... will they be considered blasphemous and banned?

Jaysus - we don't live in Texas. I don't think it'd go that far.

But can I make up a religion where Glen Hansard is the devil and then call it blasphemy any time one of his songs comes on the radio? That'd be decent.

My name is URL

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free

Jaysus - we don't live in Texas. I don't think it'd go that far.

Well it's a step towards that way of thinking

Biggins

I can see this proposed law being extended beyond that which its primarily intended for.
The thin end of the wedge.

drunkmonkey

Would this be concidered Blasphemous?

http://maverique.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/prophet_mohammed_teddy_bear.jpg

iseethelight

This is great for minority religion like for example satanists. Every other religion blasphemes against satan, so they can have every other belief holder arrested. Then get arrested themsellves for blaspheming against god et all, thus leaving Ireland for the atheists/agnostics. I very much like.:D:D:D