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Now i wont be able to sleep tonight...

  • 27-04-2009 9:33pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 994 ✭✭✭


    Fella across the road just knocked on my door and said to me,
    (Firstly, i live in a corner house and have a side gate and side wall goes out onto the road)
    Last night he looked out his window (his house faces mine) and seen some fella on a bicycle jumping over my wall into my back garden (where i keep the bike at night)
    He reckons he was getting over to check what lock(s) i have on the bike.
    I have had a bike robbed from my back garden once before (they didnt get very far before i caught them)
    I have an oxford chain and heavy duty tri-circle lock.
    On the side gate i have 3 slide bolts held with 3 good locks.
    I know with the right tools they can have my bike away in under 5 mins without disturbing anyone.
    Theres no immovable object to lock it to.
    So tonight i have moved the bike right into the corner, put the patio table (one of them big plastic ones) right in front of it, 2 chairs sitting on the bike, another 2 on the table AND all 3 wheelie bins in front of the bike.
    Im hoping if they do attempt it, they will make enough noise to wake someone in the house.

    Can we not have anything these days without worrying if it will be there in the morning....
    You cant win


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭View Profile


    Might be worth investing in a ground anchor and a good alarm.

    Perhaps cementing some broken glass onto the top of your wall too!?

    Little bastards!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,095 ✭✭✭✭omb0wyn5ehpij9


    Might be worth investing in a ground anchor and a good alarm.

    Perhaps cementing some broken glass onto the top of your wall too!?

    Little bastards!

    Some good idea's here......I would do them if I were you!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Guard dog would be a good investment. Or a shotgun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭Simon Jester


    Landmines :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 994 ✭✭✭pajodublin


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 939 ✭✭✭chicken_food


    What about a security light. I know even with my blinds and curtains drawn, whenever the security light goes off, I can see it enough to wake me up (if that makes sense)
    Why not a bike shed thats alarmed? I know its ott, but to be honest you can't beat a small slice of 'piece of mind'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 994 ✭✭✭pajodublin


    Might be worth investing in a ground anchor and a good alarm.

    Perhaps cementing some broken glass onto the top of your wall too!?

    Little bastards!

    this is my parents house, i wont be living here much longer.
    I just realised there is the washing line pole which is cemented into the ground but its at the end og the garden and if they just snip the lock there wont be much point.

    I think an alarm is the next option i shall be looking into
    had an alarm on my last bike.
    not sure how other bike alarms work but the fella that installed it, put a mercury tilt switch into it and it worked great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 994 ✭✭✭pajodublin


    What about a security light. I know even with my blinds and curtains drawn, whenever the security light goes off, I can see it enough to wake me up (if that makes sense)
    Why not a bike shed thats alarmed? I know its ott, but to be honest you can't beat a small slice of 'piece of mind'.

    my parents sleep in the back room of the house and they would sleep through an atomic bomb. they dont wake up for nothing...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,288 ✭✭✭✭Standard Toaster


    Bike is small enough to bring inside the back door?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    security light is a v. cheap investment - Eur 20 ??

    Alarm your bike as a matter of course, always. No matter where you live - even at your parents !!

    CCTV is the next thing to look at - again, it's not expensive now.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Get a decent ground anchor and a big fookin chain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 994 ✭✭✭pajodublin


    galwaytt wrote: »
    security light is a v. cheap investment - Eur 20 ??

    Alarm your bike as a matter of course, always. No matter where you live - even at your parents !!

    CCTV is the next thing to look at - again, it's not expensive now.

    Was going to get a security light but by the time i was told of the "imminent threat" it was too late, woodies etc all closed.. will get one tomorrow for sure

    Could hear my dad complaining already about a big wet greasy bike in the kitchen


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,784 ✭✭✭Dirk Gently


    I have an alarmed pad lock on my shed door. noisy ****er if you so much as touch off it. one of them on a chain should be enough to panic them when it goes off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 869 ✭✭✭honeybadger


    hammer a few 6inch nails in to planks of wood and leave them in the access and exit areas of your gaffs garden at nite,that will **** em sneaky fooks in ther nikeys,it will be a experience they will never 4get i there stupid enough to stand on them :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭paulieeye


    create an ambush. leave all the gates opens and the bike in the middle of the garden. Dig a pit in front of the bike (tell ur folks ur partaking in a spot of landscaping). Cover with blanket, grass and twigs.Lace wire across the pit which is attached to a good few tin pans which will bang together when scumbag enters pit. Alternatively connect wires to a pully system and a mesh net to snare said scumbag. Once captured, poke with stick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭rameire


    paulieeye wrote: »
    create an ambush. leave all the gates opens and the bike in the middle of the garden. Dig a pit in front of the bike (tell ur folks ur partaking in a spot of landscaping). Cover with blanket, grass and twigs.Lace wire across the pit which is attached to a good few tin pans which will bang together when scumbag enters pit. Alternatively connect wires to a pully system and a mesh net to snare said scumbag. Once captured, poke with stick.

    seen as you have seemed to have gone all out, id call the A-Team.

    a ground anchor would also do,
    you could even make one yourseld out of a piece of metal pipe and two large bolts.

    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,050 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    In Berlin you can just leave your (expensive and fast) bike just on the footpath outside your apartment block with the steering lock on and it'll be there in the morning. There's less of a thieving bastard culture in Berlin of course. It always makes me smile to see pricey bikes just sitting there "for the taking" but nobody does, at least not often enough to encourage many people to use heavier locks. People here use heavier locks on their push-bikes than their motorbikes which is also amusing!

    If it's your folks house then buy a ground anchor-you'll surely visit them and will have a secure locking point when you do!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    murphaph wrote: »
    In Berlin you can just leave your (expensive and fast) bike just on the footpath outside your apartment block with the steering lock on and it'll be there in the morning. There's less of a thieving bastard culture in Berlin of course. It always makes me smile to see pricey bikes just sitting there "for the taking" but nobody does, at least not often enough to encourage many people to use heavier locks. People here use heavier locks on their push-bikes than their motorbikes which is also amusing!

    If it's your folks house then buy a ground anchor-you'll surely visit them and will have a secure locking point when you do!

    Its the same here in Munich. When I got my new ZZR1400, which is parked in my garage I went out and bought a big FO chain and lock from Louis. I got some funny looks when I was at the till and the lady asked was I going somewhere nice on holiday. The idea of locking your bike here is completely alien, because I was buying a chain they thought I was going west somewhere.

    When I lived in Dublin I lost many a nights sleep over bike security. In my opinion you can never have enough chains, locks, alarms, shotguns etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    As a matter of interest, what type of bike is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭View Profile


    Is it a Gilera Runner?!

    I think for the sake of a scooter having it chained to something solid will deter most young wuns looking for a joy ride.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,050 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    KTRIC wrote: »
    Its the same here in Munich. When I got my new ZZR1400, which is parked in my garage I went out and bought a big FO chain and lock from Louis. I got some funny looks when I was at the till and the lady asked was I going somewhere nice on holiday. The idea of locking your bike here is completely alien, because I was buying a chain they thought I was going west somewhere.
    Well Toytown is a league apart again! ;)

    I always find it funny that ze germans lock the wheel of their (push) bike to the frame but often leave the bike itslef unlocked to an immovable object, despite there being railings, lamposts etc. in the immediate vicinity! You could just pick the bike up and walk off.

    I remember asking a german pal why they don't lock their bikes (in Cologne at the time) and he said "why? if someone wants a bike they will buy one". He was genuinely puzzled at my question. Theft is that much rarer in Germany that you never even see house alarms on apartments and very rarely on houses.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    murphaph wrote: »
    Well Toytown is a league apart again! ;)

    Don't get me started about that site, bunch of F**king morons the lot of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,050 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    KTRIC wrote: »
    Don't get me started about that site, bunch of F**king morons the lot of them.
    Quite a few "attitudes" about the place!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭tbaymusicman


    murphaph wrote: »
    Quite a few "attitudes" about the place!

    whats toytown:(

    i love all the above idea but what id do is hide pins and stanely blades in the seat and grips and maul the bastard haha


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    whats toytown:(

    i love all the above idea but what id do is hide pins and stanely blades in the seat and grips and maul the bastard haha

    Its an "online community" in the loosest terms. Populated by grumpy, ignorant ex-pats living in Germany. Mostly English and Americans and it really shows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭Fabio


    Plug the bike frame into the mains leccy supply and when they touch it they'll scream so loud that you'll wake very quickly. Have buckets of water by the window to fire at them then..no one likes cold water being thrown at them.

    Seriously though, get a ground anchor sorted, disc lock the front, u-lock through the back wheel. Big chain attached bike to anchor. Three locks on the sidegate seem a good bet to be fair but maybe have three different types or makes so they'd need different tools and stuff. Grease the tops of the wall...very slippy then!

    Alarm the bike if you like it that much too.

    Security light out the back would be a good idea too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭Lab_Mouse


    Just smear along the top of the walls with engine greese.sdtops the little fu*kers from climbing over.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,095 ✭✭✭✭omb0wyn5ehpij9


    Lab_Mouse wrote: »
    Just smear along the top of the walls with engine greese.sdtops the little fu*kers from climbing over.

    That is actually a very good idea!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭Lab_Mouse


    use to live in a side house..amount of times local scummers would be over trying to take my bike..

    plus it makes ****e of whatever they are wearing:)

    also with glass they can sue you if they cut themselves believe it or not!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 994 ✭✭✭pajodublin


    @ MrJoesoap & View Profile : Yes its a Gilera Runner
    I know its only a moped
    compared to some of the bikes on here it doesnt compare.
    The grease thing is a good idea but not applicable here because
    1. The wall is really long, would need a s**t load of grease
    2. theres other gardens they can come through to get to mine really hard to explain.

    I am going to buy a security light, will it cost much to get it fitted?

    another thing, lab mouse is right, we used to have glass on the wall for years and the council came around and told us it was illegal and we had to chisel it off.

    Oh and can you give me more info on a ground anchor, how to fit etc etc?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭View Profile


    If you have an existing outdoor light it's just a matter of adding a motion sensor. Cheap and easy to install. Just follow the wiring intructions included.

    Again ground anchors are easy enough to install. A good drill bit is all you really need. Should get a decent one for around €50.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 994 ✭✭✭pajodublin


    If you have an existing outdoor light it's just a matter of adding a motion sensor. Cheap and easy to install. Just follow the wiring intructions included.

    Again ground anchors are easy enough to install. A good drill bit is all you really need. Should get a decent one for around €50.

    well have no light at the moment
    im thinking of going the anchor route
    can u buy them in woodies/atlantic or just the bike shops


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭View Profile


    Your local bike shop will have them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,534 ✭✭✭FruitLover


    Lab_Mouse wrote: »
    Just smear along the top of the walls with engine greese.sdtops the little fu*kers from climbing over.

    Grease/oil mixed with dog sh1te is better. The oil will keep the sh1te relatively moist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭bbbbb


    I have a "DIY" ground anchor if you want it:
    Got the local metal works to make a "U" shape with legs on it. It's about 18in by 12in and 1inch thick. It's a little rusted over now.
    Planned to dig a big hole and set it in concrete, but never got round to it. Bike is sold now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭Fabio


    Doesn't matter if it's "only" a moped boy, it's YOUR machine and YOUR two wheels and you're as much of a biker as a guy on here with a 500 or FJR. Remember that when you fall, you fall on the same tarmac.

    Use the ground anchor and then go and grease some parts of the wall so they have LESS space to work with and thus will have to take more time in getting in and shifting your wheels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,462 ✭✭✭cardio,shoot me


    bring the bike inside maybe?, its a small enough bike from the looks of it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,095 ✭✭✭✭omb0wyn5ehpij9


    bring the bike inside maybe?, its a small enough bike from the looks of it

    Not exactly a good plan, in case the house caught fire! I don't think the house insurers would be too happy to pay out if the house went on fire and they found out there was a moped with a tank of petrol sitting inside the house!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭bladebrew


    Bryn wrote: »
    Not exactly a good plan, in case the house caught fire! I don't think the house insurers would be too happy to pay out if the house went on fire and they found out there was a moped with a tank of petrol sitting inside the house!

    i never thought of that i kept my moped in the hallway in two different houses i was renting,way to dodgy to leave outside!,but it would have been some bang if the petrol caught fire:eek:

    op rather than putting grease or nails on the wall i think theres a paint that you can put on the top of walls that dosent dry,there is no reason someone should be jumping over your wall into your garden!

    edit:just checked it on google it should be in b&q,known as anti-climb paint,but it can only be used on walls of a certain height and someone said you have to have tell the gardai you are applying it!! it will make a mess of anyone getting over your wall anyway,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭crotalus667


    bladebrew wrote: »
    edit:just checked it on google it should be in b&q,known as anti-climb paint,but it can only be used on walls of a certain height and someone said you have to have tell the gardai you are applying it!! it will make a mess of anyone getting over your wall anyway,

    I have used anti climb paint on a number of places and never has the can said anything about ristictions on use , I have to say it's great stuff , makes a mess of any one that touches it , and lasts for 5 years(ish) , you can also get little rubber mats that you screw or glue to the top of the wall they hurt the hands like hell but dint damage them :D


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