35% pass grade for sportsmen?

Peleus

This may be a rumour, but i heard somewhere that students who take part in any demanding sport for the college need only 35% to pass their end of year exams. Is this true? I couldn't find anything online about it.

mathew

not according to the exam regulations in our handbook anyway.

You can get away with failing one subject by 10% or 2 by 5% provided you have at least 50% in one other exam.. (ie compensation)

Jonathan

Peleus wrote: »

This may be a rumour, but i heard somewhere that students who take part in any demanding sport for the college need only 35% to pass their end of year exams. Is this true? I couldn't find anything online about it.

Wouldn't be surprised.

While it might not be stated explicitly the court of examiners might be nice.

If you get a load of 40s and 35s exactly, then you have most likely been marked up.

Cantab.

If you're in the Rugby/Boat/Knights/Hockey/Cricket club, all you need to do is write your name on the paper.

tolosenc

Cantab. wrote: »

If you're in the Rugby/Boat/Knights/Hockey/Cricket club, all you need to do is write your name on the paper.

Also, if you sleep with the lecturer. Or so I've heard...

Peleus

does that mean its true? it would be class if it was, cos i'm at risk of failing a few subjects and i don't have much time to study everything.

Podge_irl

Peleus wrote: »

does that mean its true?

I wouldn't plan my study around it being true if I was you.

Mellowsh

I have heard of that happening to a guy I know when he was on first year. He was on the rowing team. IMO I think its stupid.

Jonathan

Peleus wrote: »

does that mean its true? it would be class if it was, cos i'm at risk of failing a few subjects and i don't have much time to study everything.

Yea i wouldn't bother studying at all.. You don't need anything from the freshman years.

Boston

There is absolutely no truth in this.

What happens In Engineering: After the exams are corrected there is a meeting to discuss the grades which are to be handed out and if its possible to find a few extra marks for those who would fail the year, or those who are on the margin of getting a higher grade. A friend of mine got 69.25% in his first year examinations, they didn't bump him up simply because he failed to submit any Graphical design labs. You might be captain of the Rugby team, but if you haven't been handing in labs and you haven't been going to tutorials, they won't do a think to bump you. However if you've been making a solid go at the course work, being on a trinity sports team may be looked upon kindly by some lecturers.

mathew wrote: »

not according to the exam regulations in our handbook anyway.

You can get away with failing one subject by 10% or 2 by 5% provided you have at least 50% in one other exam.. (ie compensation)

These are the rules for engineering, every school is different, some schools have no compensation.

Jonathan wrote: »

Wouldn't be surprised.

While it might not be stated explicitly the court of examiners might be nice.

If you get a load of 40s and 35s exactly, then you have most likely been marked up.

You still need to average a pass.

mathew

Boston wrote: »

These are the rules for engineering, every school is different, some schools have no compensation.

Oh ye, but since Peleus is doing Engineerig I thought it relevant..

Peleus

ah sure thats grand. I'm not gonna fail everything, i was just worried that i was gonna fail Chemistry or Electricity and Mag by like 5% and have to do supplementals. I doubt i'll get less than 30% in any subject. thanks for that...

Cantab.

Mellowsh wrote: »

I have heard of that happening to a guy I know when he was on first year. He was on the rowing team. IMO I think its stupid.

Why don't you ask him for a loan of some of his kit and make sure your lecturer sees you in it?

Boston

Peleus wrote: »

ah sure thats grand. I'm not gonna fail everything, i was just worried that i was gonna fail Chemistry or Electricity and Mag by like 5% and have to do supplementals. I doubt i'll get less than 30% in any subject. thanks for that...

Do as much course work as possible. The marking is more subjective and that tends to be where they "find" marks for students.

Jonathan

Boston wrote: »

Do as much course work as possible. The marking is more subjective and that tends to be where they "find" marks for students.

I hear the mangonal is marked really easily. :P

Boston

"You can't fail anyone" was what we were told last year.

Jonathan

Boston wrote: »

"You can't fail anyone" was what we were told late year.

Serious? :eek:

Boston

Yes.

Jonathan

Wait hang on, they couldn't fail 1e9 or the mangonel assignments?

Boston

anyone who submitted a pic program was no allowed fail the software part, any one who had a board was not allowed fail to hardware part of it. People could be failed for individual assignments but it was imperative that no one be in danger of failing 1e9 who actually turned up. Regardless of how much they cheated.

Void

I knew a guy on a GAA scholarship in Maynooth. He only needed 35% for exams. I have never heard of this kind of thing in TCD though.

pisslips

Well maybe people with major involvement in sports and some clubs and societies should be able to get a bit of extra credit in all but final year.

In fairness all that really matters is your final result and that maybe you were interested and ''made an effort'' previously, I wouldn't and didn't kill myself for a first or second year exam, it seems pretty pointless to me.

And even at that nobody should be killing themselves for any exam. In fairness most of the time all that matters is that you reach a required standard which is usually that you prove that you understand the material in lectures.i.e. if someone gets 99% and someone else gets 80% chances are in two years time they're both gonna have the same understanding of the subject and maybe similar intellegence, the guy/girl who got 99% just needlessly murdered themselves pre-exam.

There are some (American) grad schools who demand insane consistently high marks which is just crazy really. Once someone is in or around a high 2:1 or 1st then they've reached the standard, I think the Law of diminishing returns comes into play after that.

Pointless stress really.

I think some people should relax and remember this while they cram for exams.