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itsallaboutheL

I think it would be an idea to split this forum if possible??

Maybe a sub forum for newbies

Sub forum for PLers

Sub forum for BBs

Sub Forum for general fitness discussion

Sub Forum for these eejits that are driving me up the wall with ridiculous answers!!

Sub Forum for i dunno Sports Specific Stuff

ETC..

I think its an idea!:)

itsallaboutheL

Possibly somewhere to put the Crossfitters to keep them away from normal people!!:pac::D:D





I'm only messing u have to respect that level of lunacy...... that and Nicole Carrol!!:cool:

brianthebard

Why do you want these splits?

Malteaser!

I don't think there's enough traffic on this forum to constitute the setting up of a ton smaller sup-forums tbh.

ScissorPaperRock

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

I think it would be an idea to split this forum if possible??

Maybe a sub forum for newbies

Sub forum for PLers

Sub forum for BBs

Sub Forum for general fitness discussion

Sub Forum for these eejits that are driving me up the wall with ridiculous answers!!

Sub Forum for i dunno Sports Specific Stuff

ETC..

I think its an idea!:)

A separate forum for powerlifters and bodybuilders seems a bit overly specific. Would some of the discussion not be much the same?

Is the forum busy enough to need further categorisation of posts?

At the same time it could just work.

itsallaboutheL

Theres been a massive amount of new posters of late tho?

I don't mean split it exactly as i have they are just ideas, i think some sort of a split might be an idea, like go back over the past 10 pages and see how many

"im kinda fat, i eat crap, i dont lift, what do i do now"

threads are repeated... thats overly cynical but you get my drift!

floggg

Nah, don't buy it!

The vast majority of people who browse this form don't necessarily fit into just one of those categories, and would tick a few of the boxes mentioned. Plenty of people dabble in all, and some most posts are of at least passing interest to them.

Also, most of the people who would generally fall into just one category are the hardcore backstards who the rest of us can stand to learn the most from, so i wouldn't like to lose them to just one category.

And last but not least, how much difference is there really between PL and BB. At the end of the day, although the goals might be a bit different, they both basically involve lifting heavy sh1t and trying to get big. Same basic rules apply to all!

PS - if there was a newb only section, who the hell would answer their questions? All the regulars would be in the regulars lounge!

Edit - while i disagreed with the proposed splits, its resulted in some very healthy debate and a couple of good ideas have surfaced from the inital idea, so props to itallabouttheL for kicking the idea out there. I think this was the desired effect.

floggg

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

Theres been a massive amount of new posters of late tho?

I don't mean split it exactly as i have they are just ideas, i think some sort of a split might be an idea, like go back over the past 10 pages and see how many

"im kinda fat, i eat crap, i dont lift, what do i do now"

threads are repeated... thats overly cynical but you get my drift!

Now this i agree with - maybe we could add a sticky that says

"How to spot reduce fat, crunch you're way to a 6pack, and get massive biceps"

to catch their attention and then drop science on their asses!

itsallaboutheL

floggg wrote: »

PS - if there was a newb only section, who the hell would answer their questions? All the regulars would be in the regulars lounge!

I'm going to call you out on that........

do you really think Hanley et al. come to boards to stoke each others egos?

They do so because they have a genuine interest in passing on knowledge, but how many times do you have to pass on the same knowledge???

Its no just all the Newb threads being repeated, i think Kevpants Floorpress thread today is one of the better i've seen in a while, and theres quality technical threads like this buried in crap!!

itsallaboutheL

Now i know theres way more Traffic on the AGS forum but look at their sub-fora it's still all the same posters. The "harcore" lads still help out the Newbs.... etc

floggg

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

I'm going to call you out on that........

do you really think Hanley et al. come to boards to stoke each others egos?

They do so because they have a genuine interest in passing on knowledge, but how many times do you have to pass on the same knowledge???

Its no just all the Newb threads being repeated, i think Kevpants Floorpress thread today is one of the better i've seen in a while, and theres quality technical threads like this buried in crap!!

1. Was meant in jest - obviously there is plenty on here who give out great advice to all concerned, myself included, for which i thank, and have thanked, them.

2. Actually, i quite regularly try to give out advice to the "newbs," insofar as i have the knowledge to pass on. I was in their boat not to long ago, so i know how they feel, and what they need to do. However, my knowledge is quite limited compared to others, so there are obvious limits to what i can pass on, and i try to stay out of giving overly specific advice, not wanting to give out bad advice.

3. Although it was in jest, there is a certain degree of logic in my point - while i'm not putting myself into the same category as Hanley et al, i know myself if i was flicking around the net, i wouldn't bother checking a "newbie" sub-forum very often compared to one of direct interest to myself, and i imagine even Hanley wouldn't prioritise it over a PL sub-forum (example only). so the chances of those in the knowing responding to a particular thread in that forum would lessen to a certain extent as a result.

celestial

Wouldn't be in favour of this at all and don't see the need really. One of the strong points of the forum is being able to see at a glance what's going on - something that kinda disappears when you have sub-fora.

itsallaboutheL

floggg wrote: »

1. Was meant in jest - obviously there is plenty on here who give out great advice to all concerned, myself included, for which i thank, and have thanked, them.

2. Actually, i quite regularly try to give out advice to the "newbs," insofar as i have the knowledge to pass on. I was in their boat not to long ago, so i know how they feel, and what they need to do. However, my knowledge is quite limited compared to others, so there are obvious limits to what i can pass on, and i try to stay out of giving overly specific advice, not wanting to give out bad advice.

3. Although it was in jest, there is a certain degree of logic in my point - while i'm not putting myself into the same category as Hanley et al, i know myself if i was flicking around the net, i wouldn't bother checking a "newbie" sub-forum very often compared to one of direct interest to myself, and i imagine even Hanley wouldn't prioritise it over a PL sub-forum (example only). so the chances of those in the knowing responding to a particular thread in that forum would lessen to a certain extent as a result.

if Hanley et al. wanted to prioritise with a PL forum they'd stay on T-nation, eliteFTS, Metalmilitia, strong lifts, PLwatch, etc etc!!

So i just dont agree!!

Transform

celestial wrote: »

Wouldn't be in favour of this at all and don't see the need really. One of the strong points of the forum is being able to see at a glance what's going on - something that kinda disappears when you have sub-fora.

no from me also

Hanley

Way to talk about me like I'm not here....

FWIW, I don't think it would work. THere's not enough traffic to justify it, and there's a lot of cross posting from the more experienced members. In addition, to an average gym goer, bodybuilding and powerlifting aren't REALLY that different. Lift weights... get big and strong.

I don't really have any interest in posting in every single newb thread that pops up. There's only so many times that you can say "sort your diet out, do big compound movements and maybe a little bit of cardio you'll get into shape". Every new person doesn't need tailored advice, they need time to put it into practice and see where it takes them. So if there was a newb forum, I probably wouldn't post in it!!

If you look at the more popular threads, they're mutlidimensional and hard to define. Like the floor press thread could go in general fitness or powerlifting. Shins and deadlifts could go anywhere etc etc....

I don't think there's enough traffice to justify it, and there certainly isn't a hardcore enough group to fill out each subcat. Like we've what, 5 or 6 powerlifters who post here, 1 bodybuilder (maybe?) and the rest are all just general/sportsmen who use the forum to keep in shape and further their atheltic capabilities.

Hanley

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

if Hanley et al. wanted to prioritise with a PL forum they'd strong lifts

Lol at stronglifts being a powerlifting forum. Serious lol!

I post quite a bit on t-nation.
PLWatch isn't really a forum, more of a news site.
MetalMilitia is mostly targeted towards multiply bench only guys, so it's of limited interest (well zero) to me.
Elite doesn't have a forum....

g'em

Hanley wrote: »

Like we've what, 5 or 6 powerlifters who post here, 1 bodybuilder (maybe?) and the rest are all just general/sportsmen who use the forum to keep in shape and further their atheltic capabilities.

The 'rest'? You mean 2 competitive weightlifters, 2 more that I know of who train in weightlifting, 1 Crossfit coach and 2+ dedicated crossfitters, 1 BJJ/MMA (can't remember which, sorry Roper) and numerous BJJ/ MT/ MMA athletes, 4+ Personal trainers...

So really, when did this place become Powerlifters and the 'rest'?

itsallaboutheL I see where you're coming from but I don't really think the traffic is there to support such a subdivision of the forum. The idea has come up in various guises over time but we've never really been able to find a middle ground.

Do you make lifting weights a sub-division? Competitive lifters? How do you dubdivide without excluding the n00bs/ general masses? How do we facilitate active discussion without cliques?

I'm very much open to new ideas. In fact, I'm going to sticky this and make a general forum feedback thread for ALL feedback that anyone wants to give (within the Charter guidelines of course )

Hanley

g'em wrote: »

The 'rest'? You mean 2 competitive weightlifters, 2 more that I know of who train in weightlifting, 1 Crossfit coach and 2+ dedicated crossfitters, 1 BJJ/MMA (can't remember which, sorry Roper) and numerous BJJ/ MT/ MMA athletes, 4+ Personal trainers...

So really, when did this place become Powerlifters and the 'rest'?

:rolleyes:

Further confirming the point that sub-forums are a bad idea.

I didn't mention any of the MA guys because there's already a dedicated MA forum. I assume when they're posting here it's to improve their physical capabilities (ie strength and stamina) and not to discuss the finer points of fighting/grappling technique, as a I stated - "the rest are [....] sportsmen who use the forum [....] further their atheltic capabilities." Maybe you missed that?

I mentioned powerlifting, bodybuilding and general because they're the ones that were specifically referred to in the opening post.

Baldie

Maybe we should add a "sub forum link" to the nutrition forum? (The Heroes forum is in the Sci-Fi & Fantasy forum, but is also linked in the television forum) This would be a handy link for any newbies.

Or maybe, a video forum, for lifting techniques?

g'em

Hanley wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Ah the rolleyes smiley. Condescension intarweb-style.

Hanley wrote:

I didn't mention any of the MA guys because there's already a dedicated MA forum. I assume when they're posting here it's to improve their physical capabilities (ie strength and stamina) and not to discuss the finer points of fighting/grappling technique, as a I stated - "the rest are [....] sportsmen who use the forum [....] further their atheltic capabilities." Maybe you missed that?

I mentioned powerlifting, bodybuilding and general because they're the ones that were specifically referred to in the opening post.

Nope didn't miss it, but thanks for the clarification.

kevpants

g'em wrote: »

So really, when did this place become Powerlifters and the 'rest'?

YOU'VE CHANGED MAAANN!!! YOU'VE CHANGED!!;)

I don't think splitting it up by sport is a good idea. For example, the oft quoted floor press thread had some very helpful contributions from Mr Roper who I'm sure wouldn't have contributed if it was posted in a powerlifting forum.

What I've noticed is this is one of the most viewed forums on the site but not necessarily the most contributed to. I think people who want advice are trying to find it from what's already there rather than starting up a new thread. Maybe they feel intimidated (they shouldn't, no one should be ripped for asking a stupid question, just those who give stupid answers).

I don't know if this opens up the possibility of a "Beginnners/ Critique my plan" forum or not. It may well do if the rules were set down that it was fitness for dummies and not about chastising someone for not knowing the absorbtion rate of a BCAA.

My one request though is that we have a supplements sub forum. Please please please please please? I don't think the sticky works. It gets some traffic but I'd say 75% of supplement topics end up as new threads and in reality they are repetetive and push other threads off page 1. Anyone's into supplements can go direct to the forum and discuss "Blueberry vs Cafe Mochachinno" all day.

g'em

kevpants wrote: »

YOU'VE CHANGED MAAANN!!! YOU'VE CHANGED!!;)

Is now the time to plug the National Weightlifting Championships that will be held this Saturday 25th April in Coolmine, 12pm start, and will be televised by RTE and covered by the Irish Times??

kevpants wrote:

My one request though is that we have a supplements sub forum. Please please please please please? I don't think the sticky works. It gets some traffic but I'd say 75% of supplement topics end up as new threads and in reality they are repetetive and push other threads off page 1. Anyone's into supplements can go direct to the forum and discuss "Blueberry vs Cafe Mochachinno" all day.

One thing to point out here: even if we all agree that Sub-Forum X would be a super-dooper-fabahlous idea it doesn't necessarily mean we'll get it, we'll still need to request it from the powers-that-be, but it's more likely to get granted if we have a solid argument behind it.

A Supplement Sub-Forum? So much of that could fall under Nutrition and Diet though. Maybe a cross-link between N&D and here? And with the way the Fitness Supplement Industry is so (in)tolerated in Ireland these days I wonder would it just attract unwanted attention?

Killme00

Jesus please dont subdivide this forum. It would kill all traffic.

The one thing i would suggest is a idiot proof sticky thread where anyone can ask anything without fear of looking stupid or getting a snotty response.

kevpants

g'em wrote: »

Is now the time to plug the National Weightlifting Championships that will be held this Saturday 25th April in Coolmine, 12pm start, and will be televised by RTE and covered by the Irish Times??

Coolmine? I live there. Where is it?

g'em wrote: »

And with the way the Fitness Supplement Industry is so (in)tolerated in Ireland these days I wonder would it just attract unwanted attention?

Might make for a bit of a debate though. Be gas if you got some concerned parents on giving out about the "steroids forum"!

Hanley

g'em wrote: »

Ah the rolleyes smiley. Condescension intarweb-style.

Ah yes... almost as annoying as mis-quoting.


I second the supplement sub-forum. The sticky worked for a while, but it's got so clogged now and people seem to have just given up on it. I could see a subforum where each supplier/product ended up with their own their own topic to discuss the merits of them. Maybe some general topics as well.

kevpants

If you needed any arguments as to why a supplement forum would be a good idea:

1. Supplement threads come in waves, pushing fitness related threads back quickly
2. Supplement threads rarely attract the attention of any of the above stated athletes and coaches and end up with 5 pages of flavour/lumpiness posts
3. "Supplement Culture" has now developed as a complete aside to "Fitness Culture"
4. There are now so many manufacturers and products the scope for discussion is very wide ranging. A "Supplement of the week" thread might be a handy way of accumulating feedback on a product. Much like the "Album of the week in the Rock/Metal forum

That's all I can think of at the moment. Hope it reinforces my point.

g'em

@ kevpants Coolmine Sports and Leisure Centre afaik?

Hanley wrote: »

Ah yes... almost as annoying as mis-quoting.

Nervous energy. I haz it. Apologies if you felt mis-quoted, I just interpreted what you wrote differently.

Hanley wrote:

I could see a subforum where each supplier/product ended up with their own their own topic to discuss the merits of them. Maybe some general topics as well.

Commercial Interaction with boards.ie is still a work in progress. As it is there are very few companies who I let post here on behalf on their business and the ones that do are usually established posters who are 'giving something back' to the forum community. Even at that they are tolerated under certain duress.

Technically all boards.ie accounts that are registered as representatives of a company should be paying the site for advertising privileges or they'll have their own forum (like with Komplett), but there are ways and means around that. I've had lengthy discussions about this with other Mods and Admins and tbh we're much more lenient about commercial interaction there than other fora on boards. If we had dedicated "Company" threads that company would, by rights, have to pay for it, and I'd be afraid that it would discourage all interaction from supplement providers.

That's not to say it's impossible, but it's difficult - I'm very much playing devil's advocate here too, I don't mean to be shooting ideas down

Jimmy Bottlehead

I'm not in favour of the split with regards to bodybuilding, powerlifting and so on. As stated, there is a fair bit of crossover between the two. And for those of us who are happily in between both sections (I bodybuild for my sport, but I love getting stronger as a result) it'd be a severe pain to have to trawl through several sub-fora.

However the supp sub-forum is a great idea. I don't wanna touch that sticky (unclean, UNCLEAN!) cos it's so clogged up and painful to go through. And as Sir Kevin of Pants has said, supp threads block up the actual fitness threads.

My 2c anyways

Roper

I think a baby oil and fake tan forum would keep the bodybuilders out.

Other than that, don't split it but like some people I really don't see what supplement flavours and consistencies have to do with fitness. Get rid of them either to their own forum or just threaten to ban people if they talk about lumpiness. I've actually been very surprised as some people are blatantly shilling for some companies.

Jimmy Bottlehead

Roper wrote: »

I've actually been very surprised as some people are blatantly shilling for some companies.

Dunno if I'd be included here, but I've jumped on the MyProtein bandwagon for the simple reason that they're the best option I've found so far by far. Tried many others, and they can't compete. I guess there can be a somewhat fine line between a shill and an ridiculously satisfied customer

kevpants

I agree on the shilling. I don't mean you Jimmy, putting a discount code in your sig isn't a bad idea.

There are several posters who might weigh in with the odd "Keep your chest up when you squat" comment and their next 20 posts are about the supplements they sell. Another in particular only seems to arrive on the scene when the name of their company is mentioned in the thread title. I think their days of contributing to the community are well behind them.

I know I could privately report this to the Mods but since it's a feedback/ideas thread I said I'd put it in the open where I have no problem with being challenged on it by whoever.

BossArky

I would like to see an area (sticky thread or sub forum?) for boards.ie fitness records.

Cyber-competition(tm) motivates me. I don't train with others (excluding 50kg wifey). I'm sure there are many others out there like myself who train alone, don't know any boards fitness regulars in real life, or are not members of MMA clubs or crossfit. Others don't have time to compete in the real world.

This area would also take care of the "how much can you bench" type questions. People could navigate to the relevant category (e.g. bench press 70-75kg bodyweight category) and see (via video evidence) how much people around your own bodyweight are lifting.

e.g.

Top 20 max squats @bodyweight sub 70kg
Top 20 max squats @bodyweight sub 75kg
Top 20 max squats @bodyweight sub 80kg

There could be a male and female section, plus a place for each of the following: deadlift, bench, oly lifts, pull ups, other stuff... etc. If someone wants to video themselves running around a 400m track then there could be a section for that too!

Yes, this area (sticky thread or sub forum) would probably be "weights" focused rather than fitness focused causing Roper to froth from the mouth.

Contributors would have to provide video evidence to the mods who would then decide if the attempt if legitimate. If yes, they would update the top 20 list, linking to the video evidence.

It may take a while to grow a full list in each category but after a while there should be a lot of decent videos available to browse through. These could be used for instructional purposes and linked to as examples.

My 2c.

Hanley

BossArky wrote: »

I would like to see an area (sticky thread or sub forum?) for boards.ie fitness records.

Cyber-competition(tm) motivates me. I don't train with others (excluding 50kg wifey). I'm sure there are many others out there like myself who train alone, don't know any boards fitness regulars in real life, or are not members of MMA clubs or crossfit. Others don't have time to compete in the real world.

This area would also take care of the "how much can you bench" type questions. People could navigate to the relevant category (e.g. bench press 70-75kg bodyweight category) and see (via video evidence) how much people around your own bodyweight are lifting.

e.g.

Top 20 max squats @bodyweight sub 70kg
Top 20 max squats @bodyweight sub 75kg
Top 20 max squats @bodyweight sub 80kg

There could be a male and female section, plus a place for each of the following: deadlift, bench, oly lifts, pull ups, other stuff... etc. If someone wants to video themselves running around a 400m track then there could be a section for that too!

Yes, this area (sticky thread or sub forum) would probably be "weights" focused rather than fitness focused causing Roper to froth from the mouth.

Contributors would have to provide video evidence to the mods who would then decide if the attempt if legitimate. If yes, they would update the top 20 list, linking to the video evidence.

It may take a while to grow a full list in each category but after a while there should be a lot of decent videos available to browse through. These could be used for instructional purposes and linked to as examples.

My 2c.

Stunningly good idea. I'd widen the weight classes a bit tho. Maybe to something closer to 10-15kg between them, just to keep it a bit more competitive. The finer details could be worked out but I think it's a really good idea.

amacachi

I think the forum is fine as it is, nice balance between how-to's, articles and lately pissing contests. :P
I'm just a lurker and read mostly for information etc., but for a new person coming in I think a noob questions thread may be a good idea. Of course for this I reckon the existing stickies need to be tidied up.
I'd almost suggest a week's ban for people who start threads when they obviously haven't read the stickies, though I understand there needs to be a balance when it comes to welcoming people to the forum. :P

The fitness records idea isn't bad either.

Roper

BossArky wrote: »

Yes, this area (sticky thread or sub forum) would probably be "weights" focused rather than fitness focused causing Roper to froth from the mouth.

Contributors would have to provide video evidence to the mods who would then decide if the attempt if legitimate. If yes, they would update the top 20 list, linking to the video evidence.

I don't think that will do anything but alienate people who actually want to get stuck in an begin their training. I know some might say it would be inspirational but from talking to people, they're already intimidated enough about going to a gym and an open forum like this is good because it's not some elitist (or pretend elitist) paradise like t-nation or something. I think a thread showing how strong/fast/fit everyone here is would only add to what is already fast becoming a lifting forum. Most people are only considering taking the first steps to being able to run for the bus without having a coronary episode.

I think a sticky thread titled "Ask the expert" could be created where people could come on and ask me questions and everybody else could fvck off to wherever.

I think any splits would be a bit silly. Footballers have the soccer forum, MMA guys have the MMA forum (I don't, I'm banned from there), golfers have the golf forum and bodybuilders have the hair and make up forum so everything else fitness related to those sports (except bodybuilding which isn't a sport of course) should be in here.

I actually think this forum works pretty well aside from the fact that I'm not allowed to slag off people who are having testosterone issues and want to show off how much they can bench (why is it always the bench?). Sort out them muppets and stop people from posting about their favourite brand of milkshake and I think you've got a pretty good forum.

Vegeta

BossArky wrote: »

I would like to see an area (sticky thread or sub forum?) for boards.ie fitness records.

I do like this idea and a cross (nutrition/fitness) supplement forum idea.

kevpants

Roper wrote: »

I don't think that will do anything but alienate people who actually want to get stuck in an begin their training. I know some might say it would be inspirational but from talking to people, they're already intimidated enough about going to a gym and an open forum like this is good because it's not some elitist (or pretend elitist) paradise like t-nation or something. I think a thread showing how strong/fast/fit everyone here is would only add to what is already fast becoming a lifting forum. Most people are only considering taking the first steps to being able to run for the bus without having a coronary episode.

I think a sticky thread titled "Ask the expert" could be created where people could come on and ask me questions and everybody else could fvck off to wherever.

I think any splits would be a bit silly. Footballers have the soccer forum, MMA guys have the MMA forum (I don't, I'm banned from there), golfers have the golf forum and bodybuilders have the hair and make up forum so everything else fitness related to those sports (except bodybuilding which isn't a sport of course) should be in here.

I actually think this forum works pretty well aside from the fact that I'm not allowed to slag off people who are having testosterone issues and want to show off how much they can bench (why is it always the bench?). Sort out them muppets and stop people from posting about their favourite brand of milkshake and I think you've got a pretty good forum.

I love your posts. Sometimes I like to imagine you as a kind of mischievous badger.

I'm part of the lifting side of things obviously but I can only talk about what I know.

In any case I'd really only use the records forum, if there was one, for a bit of craic like to compare my 100m time with some sprinters or MMA guys or whatever. I think you're right it could turn into a forum of people trying to prove who da daaawg but you could be creative with it. You could do stuff like 100m times, plank holds, turkish get ups, pushups. Stuff that doesn't alienate anyone and would probably crack a few egos too.

How about a "burpee till you puke" thread where you need to have video evidence of the puke? 10 or 11 burpees should do me.

I think this idea could change the tone of the forum from lifting dominant to showcase other stuff.

brutusthebarber

Splitting the forum would probably discourage people from posting if they are new. The majority of new posters would feel intimidated posting in a powerlifting forum (IMO), the way it is now they can post a question and (hopefully) get some good responses.

The idea of the fitness records is class. People could see what kind of level they are at and inspire them to do more. Also if the records includes sprint times/swimming lap times etc, it would enable more people to show what they can do, not solely just what they can or cant lift.

Baldie

BossArky wrote: »

I would like to see an area (sticky thread or sub forum?) for boards.ie fitness records.

Cyber-competition(tm) motivates me. I don't train with others (excluding 50kg wifey). I'm sure there are many others out there like myself who train alone, don't know any boards fitness regulars in real life, or are not members of MMA clubs or crossfit. Others don't have time to compete in the real world.

This area would also take care of the "how much can you bench" type questions. People could navigate to the relevant category (e.g. bench press 70-75kg bodyweight category) and see (via video evidence) how much people around your own bodyweight are lifting.

e.g.

Top 20 max squats @bodyweight sub 70kg
Top 20 max squats @bodyweight sub 75kg
Top 20 max squats @bodyweight sub 80kg

There could be a male and female section, plus a place for each of the following: deadlift, bench, oly lifts, pull ups, other stuff... etc. If someone wants to video themselves running around a 400m track then there could be a section for that too!

Yes, this area (sticky thread or sub forum) would probably be "weights" focused rather than fitness focused causing Roper to froth from the mouth.

Contributors would have to provide video evidence to the mods who would then decide if the attempt if legitimate. If yes, they would update the top 20 list, linking to the video evidence.

It may take a while to grow a full list in each category but after a while there should be a lot of decent videos available to browse through. These could be used for instructional purposes and linked to as examples.

My 2c.

I think this is a good idea... +1 from me.

Roper

If people decide on some sort of records forum and it goes ahead despite my objections, I'll go in and sabotage it when you're all not here.

Seriously can you imagine the arguments about form and times?

Baldie

Roper wrote: »

If people decide on some sort of records forum and it goes ahead despite my objections, I'll go in and sabotage it when you're all not here.

Seriously can you imagine the arguments about form and times?

Ya big spoil sport!!

g'em

Roper wrote: »

If people decide on some sort of records forum and it goes ahead despite my objections, I'll go in and sabotage it when you're all not here.

Threats like that, even false ones, will get you permabanned. You're pushing my limits already on this thread.

Roper wrote:

Seriously can you imagine the arguments about form and times?

I don't think you're giving the Fitness Forum people very much credit. I think there's great potential in BossArky's suggestion - competition (friendly or otherwise) is a fantastic motivational tool. People get called up on form all the time, if criticism is constructive they learn from it. Times are easily accounted for by video evidence. If people were to act up they'd get warned/ banned as needed.

Roper

Are you for real G'em? What exactly is the issue with my posts in this thread? Non use of emoticons? Displays of badger-like qualities? You didn't get my jokes?

I noticed you locked my thread re: the idiotic posts on benching the other day too, which I thought was harsh considering a lot of people agreed with me re: the direction this forum was taking. This wouldn't be a blowback from that now would it?

g'em

Roper wrote: »

Are you for real G'em? What exactly is the issue with my posts in this thread? Non use of emoticons? Displays of badger-like qualities? You didn't get my jokes?

Roper your humour is a little left of center at the best of times and what you intend to convey doesn't necessarily translate very well in text. Is there really any need for such goading & slagging of anyone though? Totally unnecessary. But I genuinely don't take kindly to people 'joking' about sabotaging any area of a forum.

Roper wrote:

I noticed you locked my thread re: the idiotic posts on benching the other day too, which I thought was harsh considering a lot of people agreed with me re: the direction this forum was taking. This wouldn't be a blowback from that now would it?

I'm certainly considering all of your behaviour on the forum of late. You openly admitted that the thread you started on the MMA forum was a bet and it got you banned. Forgive me if I'm a little cynical about your thread the other day. But there are ways and means to go about giving Feedback - giving out shite and providing no solution isn't going to help anything, whereas hopefully what we can do here is hash out a few new ideas and ways to build on the forum.

Roper

g'em wrote: »

Roper your humour is a little left of center at the best of times and what you intend to convey doesn't necessarily translate very well in text. Is there really any need for such goading & slagging of anyone though? Totally unnecessary. But I genuinely don't take kindly to people 'joking' about sabotaging any area of a forum.

There were some hints that my sabotage comment was a joke if you look carefully. Firstly I said "when you're all not here" That's a joke see because there is no "here", it's an abstraction, and even if there was a "here" there is always someone "here" because it's an internet forum. I'll admit though, it does tend to lose some of it's humour when beaten to death. Also I said "Seriously" in my next sentence, which I thought was pretty plain but then seing as my humour is left of centre whatever the fvck that means the bit where I was serious was probably seen as the joke and the joke was seen as serious.

I'm certainly considering all of your behaviour on the forum of late.

I am racking and racking my limited brain to try to understand what you could possibly mean by that and I am coming up with a blank every time.

You openly admitted that the thread you started on the MMA forum was a bet and it got you banned.

Ever made a bet? Ever want to win? I have, and I did, last week in fact. What does that have to do with anything?

Well look. You should make a decision based upon your opinion of my contribution to this forum. Should you ban me because you think I'm an ass and you don't get my jokes? I'd rather you did that instead of picking apart and threatening a ban every time I reply to someone with some humour attached. It's not really your fault that I don't take myself or the internet too seriously so maybe you should make a choice to either leave my posts be until I do break some rules in which case I'd say "okay", or just ban me because you think I'm an ass, in which case I'd also say "okay". The middle ground we're in right now demeans us both my dear.

g'em

Roper this isn't the place to discuss this, I'll PM you.

kevpants

God I'm breaking my hole laughing at this.

Roper you remind me of that guy who played Kramer in Seinfeld. Doing a stand up routine that isn't going well and tries to battle with a heckler and ends up Americas most hated personality.

I actually get your humour but man do I have some facepalm moments, you can see the trouble coming a mile off.

Such a mischievous badger.

itsallaboutheL

Don't have time to read through entire thread at the mo, i just want to make it clear that i was throwing an idea out in order to get more ideas, there seems to be a general concensus that one or 2 sub-fora are required, which was exactly my goal!! was just throwing a marathon runner among the weight lifters so to speak!!

Vegeta

I think Barry (feel free to call me by my real name, its George) you should be made Mod.

Its very easy to sit back and say "Its a joke"

If you were Mod how would you treat a poster who has no problem trolling other forums threatening to troll/sabotage the one you are mod of?

I also find it funny that you express concern over people finding it intimidating enough already to post here yet you slag all the n00b "How much can you bench?" threads.

If anything I find behaviour like yours makes the situation worse. You obviously hold a bit of disdain towards body builders and are a prominent poster here, what kind of message is that sending someone who wants to get into body building?

I don't know you from Adam but you're sending a very mixed message by publicly slagging certain posts AND being concerned about an intimidating forum. Pick a lane dude.

You clearly walk the walk and have devoted more of your life to others fitness than I ever will and I know I'd have no problem training with you but your attitude here is a little hostile to put it mildly. An ultimatum to the Mod, come off it lad.

Roper

kevpants wrote: »

God I'm breaking my hole laughing at this.

Roper you remind me of that guy who played Kramer in Seinfeld. Doing a stand up routine that isn't going well and tries to battle with a heckler and ends up Americas most hated personality.

That's actually great because that's exactly what I'm going for.

I actually get your humour but man do I have some facepalm moments, you can see the trouble coming a mile off.

Such a mischievous badger.

Yeah but trouble with who? I mean should I just ignore stuff that annoys me? Or should I just make G'em ban me and get it over with? That way nothing on this board would annoy me anymore and maybe I could actually finish that ship in a bottle I'm trying to build. I'd have so much more time.

Roper

Vegeta wrote: »

I think Barry (feel free to call me by my real name, its George) you should be made Mod.

Woohoo!!! All hail the new Mod. My Machiavellian plan has succeeded.

Its very easy to sit back and say "Its a joke"

Oh, I thought I was getting elected.

If you were Mod how would you treat a poster who has no problem trolling other forums threatening to troll/sabotage the one you are mod of?

JESUS! Now everyone thinks I'm a saboteur.

I also find it funny that you express concern over people finding it intimidating enough already to post here yet you slag all the n00b "How much can you bench?" threads.

Oh yeah those guys were so threatened by me.

If anything I find behaviour like yours makes the situation worse. You obviously hold a bit of disdain towards body builders and are a prominent poster here, what kind of message is that sending someone who wants to get into body building?

That I think they're mental obviously.

I don't know you from Adam but you're sending a very mixed message by publicly slagging certain posts AND being concerned about an intimidating forum. Pick a lane dude.

Look, I slag people off who I think are being deliberately or accidentally dishonest or misleading, or just trying to be the big man on the internet. I'd expect to be called on the same thing.

your attitude here is a little hostile to put it mildly. An ultimatum to the Mod, come off it lad.

You're damn right I'm hostile!*
It's not an ultimatum, just asking for some clarity and fairness.

*that's Public Enemy