Reg plate type - opinions please

Turbury

Folks I have a 1937 car the needs to be registered - should I go for 37 ** **** or a ZV plate? Would either effect the resale value?

Johnboy Mac

37-*-*** would seem far better that a 'universal' ZV plate imo.

Big Nasty

ZV all the way - looks much more authentic.

Anan1

In terms of resale value i'd say 37 * would be better - you can change from 37 * to ZV at any time, but not the other way. On the other hand, the 4 digit ZV plates will all be gone soon enough.

peasant

plus a 37* plate will save you a shedload of "What year is it/how old is it" questions

Stephen

Saw a 1938 Studebaker in Durrow yesterday - 38 WX 21, silver on black. Looked good to me. Is it legal to have the new format numbering on black plates though?

Turbury

Stephen wrote: »

Is it legal to have the new format numbering on black plates though?

good question - was wondering that myself.

Geezer1000

Id say ZV plate. Looks nicer in black/silver than the modern type plates

Turbury

Just made an inquiry - looks like I can get 37 ** 1
Tempting !

tfitzgerald

MCMLXXV wrote: »

ZV all the way - looks much more authentic.

+1 imho

Abelloid

Turbury wrote: »

Just made an inquiry - looks like I can get 37 ** 1
Tempting !

Go for it.

Stephen

Yeah, you can always change it to a ZV in the future if you want to anyway.

G Luxel

if u really wanted to, why not get an age-related plate.
Why do we vote and elect politicians if they arent going to help our hobby unless individuals lobby them to give us these plates.
Maybe something like Z 598, or IC 465 or ZH 24 ......;)

Luke Crowley

Age-plate all the way I'd say.

37-D-1 sounds good, or how about something related to the model of car, e.g. 37-KY-100 for a Jaguar SS100 or 37-LD-4050 for a Rolls-Royce 40/50, etc. (Seeing as you didn't say what kind of car it is, I'm making some assumptions here :P 37-C-9 on a Standard 9 would look equally good ).

Turbury

Luke Crowley wrote: »

Age-plate all the way I'd say.

37-D-1 sounds good, or how about something related to the model of car, e.g. 37-KY-100 for a Jaguar SS100 or 37-LD-4050 for a Rolls-Royce 40/50, etc. (Seeing as you didn't say what kind of car it is, I'm making some assumptions here :P 37-C-9 on a Standard 9 would look equally good ).

Its an Austin 10 but to get the 10 would cost 1000 euro
(to book it) and I could only get it then when it came in the registration sequence - so I think not.

Luke Crowley

Turbury wrote: »

Its an Austin 10 but to get the 10 would cost 1000 euro
(to book it) and I could only get it then when it came in the registration sequence - so I think not.

That sucks, I didn't know you had to wait for the sequence to reach your number with pre-87 plates.

carchaeologist

Turbury wrote: »

Just made an inquiry - looks like I can get 37 ** 1
Tempting !

Do that if you can do it.only get ZV if you live in dublin and can get one of the remaining four digit ones..
A five digit ZV plate would look ridiculous on a 1937 car.

Big Nasty

carchaeologist wrote: »

Do that if you can do it.only get ZV if you live in dublin and can get one of the remaining four digit ones..
A five digit ZV plate would look ridiculous on a 1937 car.

Depends on what she's running - a lot of us V8 boys go for the five digit plates and change the layout to 'Z V8 1234' as opposed to 'ZV 12345' - not totally legal but cool if you can get it!

carchaeologist

MCMLXXV wrote: »

Depends on what she's running - a lot of us V8 boys go for the five digit plates and change the layout to 'Z V8 1234' as opposed to 'ZV 12345' - not totally legal but cool if you can get it!

only in waterford,westmeath or wicklow,on the 5 digits at least.

Abelloid

carchaeologist wrote: »

only in waterford,westmeath or wicklow,on the 5 digits at least.

carchaeologist

Aye,thats the list.

macplaxton

carchaeologist wrote: »

only get ZV if you live in dublin and can get one of the remaining four digit ones..

Did someone say not that long ago that Waterford City was still on 4 too?

Stephen wrote: »

Is it legal to have the new format numbering on black plates though?

Turbury wrote: »

good question - was wondering that myself.

A. No. New format should appear on Euro style plates.

Q. Is it enforced?
A. Not that I've ever heard.

Stephen

I was just thinking that you might get a spanking over it since that's what the defence forces use - current number format in silver on black with no EU band...

alias no.9

Stephen wrote: »

Saw a 1938 Studebaker in Durrow yesterday - 38 WX 21, silver on black. Looked good to me. Is it legal to have the new format numbering on black plates though?

Turbury wrote: »

good question - was wondering that myself.

The new format was only introduced in 1991 even though the numbering system came into play in 1987. Technically any car registered from 1991 onwards should comply with the new EU format but it doesn't explicitly say first registered or registered in Ireland. It therefore depends on the interpretation of the law by a judge so a Garda isn't even going to ask when the car was first registered in Ireland, never mind persue you for it unless you've really done something to piss them off.

Dades

Turbury wrote: »

Just made an inquiry - looks like I can get 37 ** 1
Tempting !

I say get that one while you can!
To the punter, what appears to be the first 1937 car registered is a great draw.

And of course you can always go ZV down the line.

Turbury

Did the job this morning - turns out 1 was gone - a long time ago - ended up with 20 - not too bad!

carchaeologist

Turbury wrote: »

Did the job this morning - turns out 1 was gone - a long time ago - ended up with 20 - not too bad!

I bet maybe two and three were gone too,then there was a change in policy sometime back and they skipped the next 15 or so and started issuing them at around 20 or so.
Anyone know why they did that?

Ever notice how you will see say,40 KY 1 or 45 KY 1 40 KY 20 or 45 KY 20,but never a reg like 40 KY16.
All the really old regs are either 1s or 2s,or numbers over 20,or so it appears anyway.

Silvera

carchaeologist wrote: »

I bet maybe two and three were gone too,then there was a change in policy sometime back and they skipped the next 15 or so and started issuing them at around 20 or so.
Anyone know why they did that?

Ever notice how you will see say,40 KY 1 or 45 KY 1 40 KY 20 or 45 KY 20,but never a reg like 40 KY16.
All the really old regs are either 1s or 2s,or numbers over 20,or so it appears anyway.

Just read this thread.
I thought that they only issued from '20' upwards nowadays?

I spotted '09 KE 20' on a 1909 car last summer at Trim Show.

I believe they started issuing from '20' upwards when they realised that duplication with modern cars/plates was becoming an issue.
Though why they didnt think of this years ago is a mystery!

Example, I know that '03 WX 1' was issued to a 1903 truck years ago. However, I spotted this reg on a 2003 Ford Focus saloon last year?!


I agree about the ZV ***** plates...they just don't look right, especially on pre-c.1970 cars.

They never should have issued 5-digit ZV plates, it was just laziness on their part. Reversed four digit ZV plates (i.e. **** ZV) or unissued pre-87 plates should have been issued instead. Most counties bar Cork and Dublin have thousands of un-issued pre-87 plates.

Having said that, if the correct style of plates are used (i.e. large digits) 5-digit ZV plates can be somewhat 'disguised'...and look a bit less out of place...as per these cars...

carchaeologist

Silvera wrote: »

I thought that they only issued from '20' upwards nowadays?

They do nowadays,they didnt before,but the reason you gave sounds like a plausible one.

Example, I know that '03 WX 1' was issued to a 1903 truck years ago. However, I spotted this reg on a 2003 Ford Focus saloon last year?!

I wonder if that duplication really happened?

Having said that, if the correct style of plates are used (i.e. large digits) 5-digit ZV plates can be somewhat 'disguised'...and look a bit less out of place...

Yes,the correct font/style of lettering goes along way towards making it look better.
I reckon they didnt issue the reversed ZVs as confusion with the original series might have been an issue?
There is some unissued pre 1987 regs still,including ****IT and **** IY ****WI and these could be used.And before someone says that they are specific to a particular county,ZV was a dublin issue anyway,due to come up after ZS.
Why couldnt one of those have been used?

macplaxton

Silvera wrote: »

Having said that, if the correct style of plates are used (i.e. large digits) 5-digit ZV plates can be somewhat 'disguised'...and look a bit less out of place...as per these cars...

If you have a number "1" then you need less "surrounding". There isn't a set minimum plate size, but a minimum border round the digits.

However, digit cramming looks bad on the 2+5 full digits. Better to use UK 3 1/8" digits which were introduced in the early 60s to overcome the 7 letters/digits on a plate problem. Ok, a tad smaller, but making the best of a bad job.

Turbury

carchaeologist wrote: »

I bet maybe two and three were gone too,then there was a change in policy sometime back and they skipped the next 15 or so and started issuing them at around 20 or so.
Anyone know why they did that?

Ever notice how you will see say,40 KY 1 or 45 KY 1 40 KY 20 or 45 KY 20,but never a reg like 40 KY16.
All the really old regs are either 1s or 2s,or numbers over 20,or so it appears anyway.

This sounds right bercause I asked the girl in VRT to check if 19 was issued and she could not find anyt of the numbers from 1-19 on the system - looks like they may have started at 20

Repolho

Pardon my ignorance, but what age cars does a ZV plate apply to?

I've recently purchased a 76 VW T2. Its being imported from the states. Will this be entitled to a ZV reginstration plate?
Are my registration options ZV ***** or 76 ** ***** or is it possible to get it registered with the original lettering for your county IR (Offaly)?

(Carchaeologist: Sorry for hijacking your thread!)

Stephen

You'll be eligble for ZV plates and modern style plates. If your address is in Offaly you'll get a 76-OY-xxx plate or ZV xxxxx depending which style you pick.

carchaeologist

Repolho wrote: »

(Carchaeologist: Sorry for hijacking your thread!)

Wasnt my thread to hijack!!:)

You wont be able to get your original offaly lettering.just ZV12345 or 76OY123

Repolho

carchaeologist wrote: »

Wasnt my thread to hijack!!:)

Apologies to Turbury so!

Any opinions on which type looks better on a Bay Window Camper?

Thinking maybe the ZV. Slightly more exotic!

Turbury

Repolho wrote: »

Apologies to Turbury so!

Thats quite all right .

Not keen on the ZV plates myself.

zai800

FWIW.
I got a 4 digit ZV registration in Offaly last year

carchaeologist

zai800 wrote: »

FWIW.
I got a 4 digit ZV registration in Offaly last year

What was the number?The old series finishes in that county at ZV4200.

zai800

carchaeologist wrote: »

What was the number?The old series finishes in that county at ZV4200.

"4165" and I know of a couple of others registered last year in the 417x's

carchaeologist

zai800 wrote: »

"4165" and I know of a couple of others registered last year in the 417x's

Not many of the old series left there now so