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Fighting Families
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19-04-2009 12:06am#1Inspired from another thread(where the journeyman Smith and Allen brothers got mentioned), I've decided to start a thread on boxing families.
So many times you hear boxers say I love to box/what else can I do 'Boxing is in my blood' and often that's the case literally.
Like many sports it's certainly not unusual to have boxing passed down through the generations, even if you look at our own Bernard Dunne. His father Brendan was an Olympian at Light-Flyweight for Ireland.
But what I find of particular interest is boxing brothers.
Max Baer-Buddy Baer:
Max was of course Heavyweight champion of the World and possessed devastating power in his right hand.
Buddy was a two time challenger for the Heavyweight title and like Max was a huge puncher. He was also a gigantic heavyweight for his time at 6' 6 1/2" and weighing 240+, however both of his challenges came against the might of Joe Louis and Louis ended up 3-0 against the Baer brothers.
Vitali Klitschko-Wladamir Klitschko
These men are obviously well known, two juggernauts with massive frames and massive punching power. Considered to be the two best Heavyweights in the World today and both have been obliterating American and American based opposition for a long time now. If they were American they'd probably be national heroes, the Heavyweight division wouldn't be seen as that bad(although it's dire) and boxing probably wouldn't be ridiculed as a doing sport. That's a little off track but basically two extremely good fighters, at the top of the sport in the same division, knocking(most) of their opponents out)
Rafael Marquez-Juan Manuel Marquez:
The most skilled brothers boxing has ever seen, it's almost unthinkable that these men came from the same womb. Rafael was dominant at Bantamweight for a long period before moving up to Super-Bantamweight toppling the champion there. Although defeated in two dramatic fights against the same man since Rafael is one of the smartest fighters about, has possibly the best straight right out there and hits hard.....very hard, and when he was a Bantamweight the hardest puncher p4p imo.
Juan Manuel Marquez, he took so long to get recognition but when he finally got it everyone was unanimous in realising how good this guy is. Any man who can come back from getting dropped 3 times in a round by the whirlwind that is Pacquiao to take a draw is something special. He's a technically brilliant fighter, has a devastating uppercut and has managed to carry his power up from Featherweight to Lightweight and just like his brother he's got a sweet straight right hand. He's not quite a superstar in modern boxing, but he's the next thing down and if he can get to fight the winner of Pacquiao v Hatton that just might change.
Manny Pacquiao-Bobby Pacquiao:
Nayy considered the best fighter in the sport, Bobby a very dangerous contender/gatekeeper/journeyman.
Ricky Hatton-Matthew Hatton:
Ricky the Light-Welterweight king of the World and a mega-star in the boxing World, his brother, a domestic contender unlikely to ever reach anything near Ricky's hefty heights.
Jason Booth-Nicky Booth:
Two very good domestic fighters who have captured British and Commonwealth titles although find out at a higher level
Miguel Angel Cotto-Jose Miguel Cotto:
Miguel is one of the finest fighters today, huge in his native Porto Rico and a big name Worldwide, Miguel has developed in one of the most all-round fighters out there. His brother was involved in a decent scrap with Juan Diaz but was outworked and has failed in two 'title' attempts. Jose is now seemingly retired
Erik Morales-Diego Morales:
One of the greatest fighters........well I was going to say of modern times but I'm just gonna say ever in Erik Morales. A man who is so good that a shot version of him fighting 3 weight divisions above the weight he was best at and in against an absolute bull(he held a 'title') should have got the decision. Other than the Raheem fight I don't think Morales was in a boring fight his whole career and although probably skilled enough to outbox almost anyone, Morales usually decided to declare war. He's personally my favourite ever fighter.
His brother a little less succesful
, but he did manage to pick up a version of a 'title' at Super-Flyweight during his career.
Koki Kameda-Daiki Kameda-Tomoki Kameda:
Extremely popular in Japan, although as liked as they are they are still quite disliked for being arrogant, and unpleasant(think the Walsh brothers).
Koki has grabbed a version of a World 'title', Daiki has fought for one and lost and Tomoki is just a 17 year old prospect. Koki will probably grab a World 'title' again, he's still unbeaten just moved up in weight and I've heard good things about Tomoki. Daiki however may forever remain a contender.....the middle child.
Howard Eastman-Glibert Eastman:
Howard was a very good fighter in his prime, he picked up everything there was to win bar a World title and a fighter of his quality you have to consider very unlucky to not have picked up a belt in modern day boxing, where there is just so many. He was just never active enough in the big fights though and refused to throw more punches, preferring instead to bitch about loosing decisions because he gave away too many rounds by just not throwing enough.
His brother Gilbert was a decent domestic level fighter but was found out at British level. He unfortunately suffered a brain injury in his last fight(although I think he's okay now) and that forced Gilbert to retire.
Arthur Abraham-Alexander Abraham:
Arthur has been a long time 'title' holder at Middleweight and possess a massive punch. In real terms he's been the #1 contender at Middleweight for about forever and if a fight between him and Kelly Pavlik doesn't come off it'll be a crying shame. However his next is going to be in America and quite possibly against Vernon Forrest in a similar time period to when Pavlik beats Sergio Mora. So maybe they are actually trying to make this overall.
Alexander is an overprotected Light-Middleweight who shouldn't ever achieve much really. He's to Arthur, what Matthew Hatton is to Ricky. However with careful German matchmaking and some home cooking they just might be able to get him a European title.
John Murray-Joe Murray:
John's the British Lightweight champion, good fighter but won't live up to his early promise, Joe's a succesful amateur who's just turned pro with Ricky Hatton's promotional company.
Patrick Hyland-Paulie Hyland-Eddie Hyland:
Ireland's triple title holders, all 3 brothers hold the Irish title in their respective weightclasss. Patrick seems to have quite a bit about him, Paulie shows flashes of quality but will have to improve hugely if he's going to reach European title level and Eddie I can't see getting a better win than the one against Kevin O'Hara. O'Hara's camp are desperate to get a rematch(aggrieved from the decision of the first fight) and it'd be a great scrap if the two fought again. Was very ambitious when Eddie was going to be matched with Sergei Gulyakevich, seemed like a lamb to the slaughter.
So there's 13 groups of brothers some I've talked about in more depths than others, so I might add to later.
But anyway, anyone got opinions on any of the brothers mentioned or is there any boxing families out there that I've missed and are deserving of a mention ?1
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This mornings fights in the Philippines made me think of another, Nonito Donaire and Glen Donaire.
Sligo I didn't forget Morales' dad I was concentrating on brothers.
But some of the others I slapped myself when I say them.........dunno how they didn't come to mind.
It's funny to think though with Anthony Mundine and his father Tony.
Due to the way modern boxing is Anthony has become a 'World champion' and yet it's Tony that achieved so much more in his career and Tony was genuine top 3 Middleweight in the World at one point.
Hopefully history will remember things the correct way, although I suppose Choc still does have the chance to become a genuine champion.
He's going in the right direction if his claims of going after Pavlik after the fight with Geale are true, but knowing Mundine they're probably not.
Another father son relationship is Joe Frazier and his son Marvis.
Poor Marvis was never really a Heavyweight and wasn't that unskilled, however he decided to fight with the brawling style of his father when he would of been much better suited to boxing. He was so small for a heavy and after he got blown out in a round by Holmes he should have taken to the newly created Cruiserweight division. But he persisted in staying at heavy, fighting with his fathers style and he did manage to get some decent wins over the likes of James 'Quick' Tills, 'Bonecrusher' Smith and Jose Ribalta.
His chin had been proven to be shaky again though as he was floor a couple of times in the process.
So what do they do with him ?, put him in with Tyson and he gets blown away within 20 seconds. Despite Cruiserweight being an even less glamorous division back then you really have to question him not moving down. But he wanted to live up to his father and hence he was a failure.......a massive one.
Was it Peter Eubanks who ended up being convicted of murder or was it another brother ?, anyway that's what apparently got Eubank to drop the s from his name and distance himself from his brother.
Tracy Harris Patterson was the adopted son of Floyd Patterson, there's one for the nature v nurture argument 0 -
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