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Overseas wedding - recognising it here

  • 18-04-2009 6:14pm
    #1
    Captain Slow IRL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,651 ✭✭✭


    Hi all, I was talking to someone and they said to have a foreign wedding (we're having it in the U.S.) recognised here, we'll need an "Aula Nostra"

    The only problem is he wasn't sure of the spelling, and neither am I - can anyone enlighten me?

    Thanks in advance!


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  • #2
    Emerald Lass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 439 ✭✭Emerald Lass


    That's for Italy. For US and other countries you need a 'certificate of freedom to marry. you get it from the dept of foreign affairs. If you look them up in the 'green' pages in the phone book you will see a specific department of marriage abroad. Give them a ring - they are very helpful.

    But be aware, you need to apply 4 months before the date. The cert takes 4 mths to be issued, and once issued is only valid for 3 mths. So you cannot apply more than 6 mths in advance, and not less than 4 mths. In exceptional circumstances they do issue them sooner, but they will not guarantee this, so if you have the time its better to be safe than sorry and apply in time.

    To apply you just need to down load the forms from the internet (they will tell you the details when you ring), get these witnessed by a solicitor or commissioner for oaths, then send it along with your birth cert and €20 off to them. If both of you are irish, you will both need a cert each.


  • #3
    Captain Slow IRL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,651 ✭✭✭Captain Slow IRL


    I rang the dept of foreign affairs today - think I got my questioning wrong though:o

    Does the church not issue us with a certificate of freedom as well?

    EDIT: Rang them today; anyone marrying in the U.S., Canada or Australia don't need to go near the Dept of Foreign Affairs. This only seems to apply to the majority of European countries.


  • #4
    Emerald Lass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 439 ✭✭Emerald Lass


    so where do you get your cert from? or is it that the USA don't require that you have a cert?

    Marriages in Ireland don't require a cert - my HTB is foreign and doens't need a cert from his home country - basically he will sign an affadavit to the registrar here stating that he is not already married/there is no legal reason why he can't marry. That is enough. Should it ever transpire that this was untrue then it would be a criminal offence as he signed a legal declaration.
    This may be the case in US also. Maybe that is why you don't need the cert?


  • #5
    Captain Slow IRL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,651 ✭✭✭Captain Slow IRL


    As far as I can make out, it comes from my priest. It will be sent by my priest, via the bishop of our diocese to the church we will be getting married in, in NY.

    We then produce the NY marriage certificate over here when asked - it will (should!) be recognised without any fuss.

    EDIT: to answer another question of yours!
    Emerald Lass wrote: »
    so where do you get your cert from? or is it that the USA don't require that you have a cert?

    I was looking back over an email sent by the city clerks office, from NY - you will not need a cert to get a marriage license, just a photographic i.d. and payment for $35. You then return to the city clerks office in 24 hours and they can marry you there and then, if you just want a civil ceremony.


  • #6
    DotOrg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭DotOrg


    We were married in the US and didn't need anything apart from my passport and birth cert. When we came back to Dublin, anyone who required proof accepted our American cert just fine


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  • #7
    Emerald Lass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 439 ✭✭Emerald Lass


    Captain Slow IRL wrote: »
    As far as I can make out, it comes from my priest. It will be sent by my priest, via the bishop of our diocese to the church we will be getting married in, in NY.

    We then produce the NY marriage certificate over here when asked - it will (should!) be recognised without any fuss.

    EDIT: to answer another question of yours!



    I was looking back over an email sent by the city clerks office, from NY - you will not need a cert to get a marriage license, just a photographic i.d. and payment for $35. You then return to the city clerks office in 24 hours and they can marry you there and then, if you just want a civil ceremony.


    so you're all set then! no cert of freedom to marry required for the legal element - lucky you! cos its a hassle! Looks like the reason for the other cert from your priest is more to do with religious issues rather than legally recognising the marriage, but I think this end of it is fairly straight forward so you should be all set.

    Best of luck with everything and have a fabulous day!


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