Good Fedor video.... Dana trash talking, as usual

MonkeyBalls

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG4TU1vJKWQ

Can you embed youtube videos on this site? Trying now...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG4TU1vJKWQ

Nice one.

calex71

worth seeing even just for the last second, I hadn't seen that one before.

rovert

calex71 wrote: »

worth seeing even just for the last second, I hadn't seen that one before.

selective likely out of context footage :eek:

MonkeyBalls

rovert wrote: »

selective likely out of context footage :eek:

I think that's pretty obvious...

rovert

MonkeyBalls wrote: »

I think that's pretty obvious...

Im not just a fan of "smear" type videos for Fedor as it is just unnecessary he doesnt need the help his fights and rep speaks for itself.

MonkeyBalls

rovert wrote: »

Im not just a fan of "smear" type videos for Fedor as it is just unnecessary he doesnt need the help his fights and rep speaks for itself.

Fedor currently isn't well known in America, and here in Ireland most casual fans of MMA only know about the UFC and buy into Dana White's nonsense that Fedor isn't the top guy in MMA right now. UFC is a marketing machine. Fedor's a free agent, more or less. If he went to the UFC, people would know about him.

Fozzy

MonkeyBalls wrote: »

Fedor currently isn't well known in America, and here in Ireland most casual fans of MMA only know about the UFC and buy into Dana White's nonsense that Fedor isn't the top guy in MMA right now. UFC is a marketing machine. Fedor's a free agent, more or less. If he went to the UFC, people would know about him.

So smear-type videos are the only sort of video that can be used to promote Fedor? There's other ways

agardiner22

Nice find monkey balls, near the end the picture of dana as a clown thats the image i see of him whenever he speaks because he makes himself out to be clown most of the time. Before the Fedor Arlovski fight he said the one fighter he really wanted to resign was Arlovski and look what happened there.
Never was he in trouble in that fight. The man still has to be even put on 1 knee from a punch. and keep em comin, never mind the other tripe.

Fozzy

agardiner22 wrote: »

Before the Fedor Arlovski fight he said the one fighter he really wanted to resign was Arlovski and look what happened there.

What did happen? Arlovski's still under contract to Affliction, the UFC can't do anything

ginoginelli

old but still funny. Kinda serves dana right..his whole approach to the Fedor situation leaves him open to this kind of thing.

agardiner22

Dana was saying it because he liked Arlovski and he thought he left the UFC too soon and was sure he was gonna beat Fedor, he was believing his own BS and we all know what happened, if Affliction folded in the morning Dana would be trying to resign Arlovski no doubt.

MonkeyBalls

Fozzy wrote: »

So smear-type videos are the only sort of video that can be used to promote Fedor? There's other ways

Smear type? Lol. Get over it, man. It's called humour. Dana does enough laughable trash talk to deserve this kind of video.

agardiner22 wrote: »

Nice find monkey balls, near the end the picture of dana as a clown thats the image i see of him whenever he speaks because he makes himself out to be clown most of the time. Before the Fedor Arlovski fight he said the one fighter he really wanted to resign was Arlovski and look what happened there.
Never was he in trouble in that fight. The man still has to be even put on 1 knee from a punch. and keep em comin, never mind the other tripe.

Fujita came close to knocking out Fedor, and the Randleman slam was pretty fuking intense - broke two of Fedor's ribs, luckily not his neck. Besides that, Hunt did a good job avoiding Fedor's submissions, but Fedor has dominated everyone else. Anyone who disagrees that he's not the #1 heavyweight is simply a mongoloid.

ginoginelli wrote: »

old but still funny. Kinda serves dana right..his whole approach to the Fedor situation leaves him open to this kind of thing.

True. To be fair though, he's just protecting his business. He knows Fedor is the best - he's not stupid.

RNCFAN

It's funny because it's true.

rovert

MonkeyBalls wrote: »

Smear type? Lol. Get over it, man. It's called humour. Dana does enough laughable trash talk to deserve this kind of video..

MonkeyBalls wrote: »

True. To be fair though, he's just protecting his business. He knows Fedor is the best - he's not stupid.

Pick one or the other

MonkeyBalls

rovert wrote: »

Pick one or the other

If he's going to say Fedor is "fat and out of shape", that he's "not the best fighter out there and is probably at a buffet somewhere in Russia", that he's "over rated and hasn't fought anybody", it's pretty funny when someone makes a video pointing out his idiocy.

You can protect your business in more subtle ways. In fairness he is trying to protect his business; he's not doing it out of sheer spite. This is what happens - you get pwned for it, when you take it too far. He knows this. He's willing to take that, because he knows the average MMA fan is an unthinking retard who will soak up anything the UFC says.

So it's not a matter of "pick one or the other" - one leads to the other, in this case.

rovert

MonkeyBalls wrote: »

If he's going to say Fedor is "fat and out of shape", that he's "not the best fighter out there and is probably at a buffet somewhere in Russia", that he's "over rated and hasn't fought anybody", it's pretty funny when someone makes a video pointing out his idiocy.

You can protect your business in more subtle ways. In fairness he is trying to protect his business; he's not doing it out of sheer spite. This is what happens - you get pwned for it, when you take it too far. He knows this. He's willing to take that, because he knows the average MMA fan is an unthinking retard who will soak up anything the UFC says.

So it's not a matter of "pick one or the other" - one leads to the other, in this case.

I thought your protect your business line was about maintaining leverage in future negotiations with Fedor.

MonkeyBalls wrote: »

He's willing to take that, because he knows the average MMA fan is an unthinking retard who will soak up anything the UFC says.

I truely dispute this point that the average MMA fan is an unthinking retard. This type of thinking is very Sherdogesque. MMA's demographics in North America arent on your side.

MonkeyBalls

rovert wrote: »

I thought your protect your business line was about maintaining leverage in future negotiations with Fedor.

I truely dispute this point that the average MMA fan is an unthinking retard. This type of thinking is very Sherdogesque. MMA's demographics in North America arent on your side.

Let's be honest. Not everyone who supports MMA is doing so for the love of its technicality. Many are just in it for random violence. Joe Rogan has pointed this out a few times. When you watch someone like Lyoto Machida fight and he's so elusive and technical, the fans in the audience boo and get pissy, because they want to see brutal knockouts and aggression.

"Average" would not be the right word. I'll amend it to "large amount".

I've spoken to many MMA fans, and a lot of them are douchebags.

For example, a lot of them don't know who Fedor is, because they only watch the UFC. They know only what Dana tells them, and hence "Fedor sucks".

They probably can't stand it that Fedor is better than Lesnar, Mir, Nog, Couture, Overeem, Cro Cop, and basically every other heavyweight fighter that they support.

dunkamania

I am not sure why not knowing who Fedor is makes you a Douchebag, but apparently it does......

Alot of hardcore fans seem to have issues with fans who are new to the sport, and dont know the history, or fighters outside the UFC. This confuses me, as more people following the sport can only be a good time. Especially as it means that more fighters can actually train full time, and support families.

rovert

MonkeyBalls wrote: »

Let's be honest. Not everyone who supports MMA is doing so for the love of its technicality. Many are just in it for random violence.

Erm UFC's oldest fans the ones who wax lyrical about its technicality more than likely got into it for the violence as that is what the UFC was originally marketed it as. There is a learning curve involved it is hardly an immediate sport is it?

MonkeyBalls wrote: »

Joe Rogan has pointed this out a few times. When you watch someone like Lyoto Machida fight and he's so elusive and technical, the fans in the audience boo and get pissy, because they want to see brutal knockouts and aggression.

Going by crowd reactions to his last few fights fans are quickly catching on to his style of fighting it seems. Which would once again point to the fact that there is a learning curve.

MonkeyBalls wrote: »

"Average" would not be the right word. I'll amend it to "large amount".

I've spoken to many MMA fans, and a lot of them are douchebags.

For example, a lot of them don't know who Fedor is, because they only watch the UFC. They know only what Dana tells them, and hence "Fedor sucks".

They probably can't stand it that Fedor is better than Lesnar, Mir, Nog, Couture, Overeem, Cro Cop, and basically every other heavyweight fighter that they support.

Personally Ive never encountered that from casual/semi casual fans at all.

dunkamania wrote: »

I am not sure why not knowing who Fedor is makes you a Douchebag, but apparently it does......

Neither do I but it is another opinion I would mark down as Sherdogesque.

Raze_them_all

MonkeyBalls wrote: »

Let's be honest. Many are just in it for random violence. .

Eh what random violence??? I have yet to see any random violence in a ring/cage during an event!

MonkeyBalls

dunkamania wrote: »

I am not sure why not knowing who Fedor is makes you a Douchebag, but apparently it does......

Alot of hardcore fans seem to have issues with fans who are new to the sport, and dont know the history, or fighters outside the UFC. This confuses me, as more people following the sport can only be a good time. Especially as it means that more fighters can actually train full time, and support families.

I never said that.

Nothing wrong with noobs, as long as they appreciate their noobness.

rovert wrote: »

Erm UFC's oldest fans the ones who wax lyrical about its technicality more than likely got into it for the violence as that is what the UFC was originally marketed it as. There is a learning curve involved it is hardly an immediate sport is it?

Going by crowd reactions to his last few fights fans are quickly catching on to his style of fighting it seems. Which would once again point to the fact that there is a learning curve.

Personally Ive never encountered that from casual/semi casual fans at all.

Neither do I but it is another opinion I would mark down as Sherdogesque.

1. Not all of them. I was put off by its violence initially, but only grew to enjoy it when I saw how aesthetically pleasing it is.

2. Machida's last fight was on the offensive; he scored a KO in the first round.

3. I have.

4. I've never been on Sherdog.

rovert

MonkeyBalls wrote: »

I never said that.

You used not knowing Fedor as an example of their douchebaggery

MonkeyBalls wrote: »

1. Not all of them. I was put off by its violence initially, but only grew to enjoy it when I saw how aesthetically pleasing it is.

Still there is a learning curve and a steep one at that.

MonkeyBalls wrote: »

2. Machida's last fight was on the offensive; he scored a KO in the first round.

Check out the reaction he got before the fight.

MonkeyBalls wrote: »

3. I have.

4. I've never been on Sherdog.

Of course I have no proof whether you have or not and I can only talk about my own experiences. But reading your comments your attitude to other MMA fans has the same sense insularity witnessed on other boards like Sherdog.

agardiner22

Only random act of violence i have ever seen in a cage/ring was in one of the final cage rage events when Baroni just beat this guy and his cornerman came in and tried to butt baroni

Mossy Monk

agardiner22 wrote: »

Only random act of violence i have ever seen in a cage/ring was in one of the final cage rage events when Baroni just beat this guy and his cornerman came in and tried to butt baroni

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VhQnWLafsg

Go to 4:40

dunkamania

Back on topic please guys

MonkeyBalls

rovert wrote: »

You used not knowing Fedor as an example of their douchebaggery

Still there is a learning curve and a steep one at that.

Check out the reaction he got before the fight.

Of course I have no proof whether you have or not and I can only talk about my own experiences. But reading your comments your attitude to other MMA fans has the same sense insularity witnessed on other boards like Sherdog.

1. No. I said people who say "Fedor sucks" exemplify their douchebaggery.

2. True.

3. He's starting to establish himself, I guess.

4. "Sense insularity" - I like it.

MonkeyBalls

Anyway - does anyone here think Fedor is NOT the number one heavyweight?

I can understand and empathise with people who say he's not the #1 pfp, but anyone who thinks there are better heavyweights are simply retarded.

rovert

MonkeyBalls wrote: »

1. No. I said people who say "Fedor sucks" exemplify their douchebaggery.

Huh?

MonkeyBalls wrote: »

4. "Sense insularity" - I like it.

Oh noes I missed out an "of." You should watch your language with some of the terms you choose to express yourself with.

shenanigans1982

MonkeyBalls wrote: »

Anyway - does anyone here think Fedor is NOT the number one heavyweight?

Yeah the WWE fans refuse to believe it.

rovert

shenanigans1982 wrote: »

Yeah the WWE fans refuse to believe it.

And where would these WWE fans thinking this be exactly? This is again more of the same insular US vs Them attitude. If you took a poll at a site were MMA & Pro Wrestling was covered Fedor would crush Lesnar in a poll of who would win I’ve seen such polls in the past on places like F4WOnline. On that site in particular and I’m sure a few others will vouch for this I’ve never read anyone make the case for Lesnar beyond him having a (punchers) chance and presenting some challenges that Fedor hasn’t really come against to that degree. I’ve never read anyone seriously out and out favour Brock in that potential fight.

Fozzy

I don't see what WWE fans have to do with it. A lot of MMA fans seem not to realise that a lot of WWE fans still resent Brock for walking out on them

If someone were to think that Brock's the top heavyweight then in most cases they've probably never seen Fedor. I wouldn't blame them for that though, he's only been on tv once over here and not a whole lot more in the US, and the places were he has been talked about on tv are the sort of shows that don't attract the casual MMA fan. The UFC's tremendously effective marketing department is to blame for it all, not the people themselves

dunkamania

I dont think you can blame the UFC for their marketing efforts. Fault lies with their competitors, and lack of marketing prowess

MonkeyBalls

rovert wrote: »

Oh noes I missed out an "of." You should watch your language with some of the terms you choose to express yourself with.

ROTFL. I was complimenting you. Sense insularity is a perfect grammatical construction, i.e. insularity from common sense.

MonkeyBalls

rovert wrote: »

And where would these WWE fans thinking this be exactly? This is again more of the same insular US vs Them attitude. If you took a poll at a site were MMA & Pro Wrestling was covered Fedor would crush Lesnar in a poll of who would win I’ve seen such polls in the past on places like F4WOnline. On that site in particular and I’m sure a few others will vouch for this I’ve never read anyone make the case for Lesnar beyond him having a (punchers) chance and presenting some challenges that Fedor hasn’t really come against to that degree. I’ve never read anyone seriously out and out favour Brock in that potential fight.

There are noobs out there who see Brock and think "Brock SMMAASSSHHHH" and Fedor would be blown out of the water. Remember Kimbo Slice? People were saying Kimbo could beat Fedor. I remember someone saying Kimbo would "destroy dat fat fuk". When Seth Petruzelli ktfo of Kimbo they still had excuses.

Fozzy wrote: »

I don't see what WWE fans have to do with it. A lot of MMA fans seem not to realise that a lot of WWE fans still resent Brock for walking out on them

If someone were to think that Brock's the top heavyweight then in most cases they've probably never seen Fedor. I wouldn't blame them for that though, he's only been on tv once over here and not a whole lot more in the US, and the places were he has been talked about on tv are the sort of shows that don't attract the casual MMA fan. The UFC's tremendously effective marketing department is to blame for it all, not the people themselves

If Fedor were to sign with the UFC, Dana would instantly market him as the best pfp that ever lived. People would know who he is then. But that probably will never happen. Still, I hear Fedor's people are beginning to market him more now in the US.

rovert

MonkeyBalls wrote: »

There are noobs out there who see Brock and think "Brock SMMAASSSHHHH" and Fedor would be blown out of the water. Remember Kimbo Slice? People were saying Kimbo could beat Fedor. I remember someone saying Kimbo would "destroy dat fat fuk". When Seth Petruzelli ktfo of Kimbo they still had excuses.

All I say is where are these noobs exactly and are there enough of them with the opinion you say they share to generalise to the extent that you do?

Valmont

Sherdog: Undermining sensible discussion since 1997.

Tones69

MonkeyBalls wrote: »

There are noobs out there who see Brock and think "Brock SMMAASSSHHHH" and Fedor would be blown out of the water. Remember Kimbo Slice? People were saying Kimbo could beat Fedor. I remember someone saying Kimbo would "destroy dat fat fuk". When Seth Petruzelli ktfo of Kimbo they still had excuses.



If Fedor were to sign with the UFC, Dana would instantly market him as the best pfp that ever lived. People would know who he is then. But that probably will never happen. Still, I hear Fedor's people are beginning to market him more now in the US.

I dont agree with that, everyone knows the best HW competition for him is in the UFC. Obviously Dana is gonna big up his organisation but i believe that if Fedor did come to the UFC he would not walk through the division like some people believe!

dunkamania

I have always been somewhat sceptical about Fedor, but everytime he proves me wrong. The Arlovski fight was looking dicey for a while

Valmont

Dicey enough to warrant a rematch I think.

MonkeyBalls

Tones69 wrote: »

I dont agree with that, everyone knows the best HW competition for him is in the UFC. Obviously Dana is gonna big up his organisation but i believe that if Fedor did come to the UFC he would not walk through the division like some people believe!

Who poses a threat to Fedor? Mir? Lesnar?

Fedor would have no trouble dispatching them. But anything can happen. Fedor will lose eventually.

dunkamania wrote: »

I have always been somewhat sceptical about Fedor, but everytime he proves me wrong. The Arlovski fight was looking dicey for a while

Arlovski was winning. But it was only 3 minutes into it. Fedor cuts easily, and there wasn't a mark on him after the fight. Barely anything Arlovski threw connected - except the leg kicks.

I think Fedor knew he had a glass jaw and relied on a KO - which worked.

MonkeyBalls

rovert wrote: »

All I say is where are these noobs exactly and are there enough of them with the opinion you say they share to generalise to the extent that you do?

Visit other forums, and check out the youtube comments to MMA fights.

rovert

MonkeyBalls wrote: »

Visit other forums.

Which forums? Have you consider the possiblity that these people might be in fact trolling:eek:.

Again are there enough of them to generalise the way you have done? I personally dont think so.

MonkeyBalls wrote: »

check out the youtube comments to MMA fights.

LMAO!

dunkamania

Knock it off guys, its off topic and annoying

Monkey balls banned for 1 week ,for subsequent posts that i have deleted.

Tones69

MonkeyBalls wrote: »

Who poses a threat to Fedor? Mir? Lesnar?

Fedor would have no trouble dispatching them. But anything can happen. Fedor will lose eventually.



Arlovski was winning. But it was only 3 minutes into it. Fedor cuts easily, and there wasn't a mark on him after the fight. Barely anything Arlovski threw connected - except the leg kicks.

I think Fedor knew he had a glass jaw and relied on a KO - which worked.

Both of them yes,but before he even got to them I believe he would struggle to get past Shane Carwin or Cheick Kongo

dunkamania

I think the odds tip towards Lesnar as time goes on, as Fedor is becoming increasingly disinterested in MMA, and Lesnar is getting better. I dont think Mir would last long against Fedor. I dont see how Carwin or Knogo would give him much of a fight.

Hephaestus

2 good Fedor vids ye might enjoy.

Apologies but I still haven't got the hang of embeddin vids.

The last Russian emperor (chapter 1)

The last Russian emperor (chapter 2)

dunkamania

Genghis Con makes the best mma video clips, bar none