Turbo/Supercharger

maoqin

what is the Turbo/Supercharger

je55ie

Turbo and Supercharger are two different ways of getting more power out of a engine. Usually a car is either Turbo or Supercharged. Each have their own advantages/disadvantages. Turbo usually kicks in by revs in the engine, supercharged has instant power as its driven by the belts in the engine.

They both do the same job as in produce more bhp but in different ways.

peasant

Both force the induction of your engine ...give it more air to breathe, so that more fuel can be injected ...more power is the result.

A turbo is a turbine driven by exhaust gas, a supercharger is a mechanical compressor driven by the engine itself (via a shaft/chain/belt)

Anan1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbocharger

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercharger

Google.;)

Mr Benevolent

Turbo pro's:

'Free' energy - uses waste exhaust gases to spin up a compressor and blow air back into the engine,

Cons:

Takes time to spin up, hence turbo lag.


Supercharger pro's:

Instant power, since it's driven bya shaft/belt connected to the engine itself.

Cons:

Loses a small % of power through the shaft/belt.

Logically, the best thing is to have both a turbo and surpercharger.

mumblin deaf ro

The best explanation I read was that a turbocharger is like a bellows for a fire. It adds more air to the air fuel mixture, making a bigger bang without the need for more fuel.

Anan1

mumblin deaf ro wrote: »

The best explanation I read was that a turbocharger is like a bellows for a fire. It adds more air to the air fuel mixture, making a bigger bang without the need for more fuel.

Both super & turbochargers add more air, but fuelling does have to be increased accordingly.;)

NiSmO

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cashmni1

NiSmO wrote: »

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TSI?

alexmcred

both the 140 and 170 bhp VW Golfs have turbo's and superchargers the 122 has a turbo

Darwin

Confab wrote: »

Cons:

Takes time to spin up, hence turbo lag.

This was definitely a problem in the past but manufacturers seem to be addressing this problem now. For example, the joint venture by BMW/PSA produced a twin-scroll turbocharger that has virtually
eliminated lag. This engine is to be found in the Mini Cooper S and Pegueot 207 GT/GTi models. Another example is the new Jaguar XFR which uses some fancy tricks to deal with lag through the use of two turbos (one variable geometry one fixed geometry).

mumblin deaf ro

Anan1 wrote: »

Both super & turbochargers add more air, but fuelling does have to be increased accordingly.;)

fair play - i stand corrected.

rabbitinlights

Some people might not know this but Kompressor = Supercharger on Mercs.

Bearcat

it ws the fellas first post....i didnt reply cause i reckoned he'd see how many answered his post. me being cynical?

vectra

maoqin wrote: »

what is the Turbo/Supercharger

Sometimes it can be as simple as a badge on the back of a skangermobile

maoqin

i watch the ebay, it s only 80euro to fix a turbo/supercharger in both side of air

Neilw

maoqin wrote: »

i watch the ebay, it s only 80euro to fix a turbo/supercharger in both side of air

Are you talking about those electric superchargers :rolleyes: as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike.

unkel

Neilw wrote: »

as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike.

He he

tossy

Neilw wrote: »

Are you talking about those electric superchargers :rolleyes: as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike.

Or a handbrake on a canoe!

tommmy1979

rabbitinlights wrote: »

Some people might not know this but Kompressor = Supercharger on Mercs.

Are you sure about that? I always thought that myself but then someone else told me that a kompressor badge is actually a trim level and doesn't mean that the engined has forced induction?

Anyway.. i don't really like turbos/superchargers myself, much prefer the power band of a well tuned normally aspirated engine. If i had to choose though, i'd rather a supercharger over a turbo..

Sqaull20

tommmy1979 wrote: »

Are you sure about that? I always thought that myself but then someone else told me that a kompressor badge is actually a trim level and doesn't mean that the engined has forced induction?

Anyway.. i don't really like turbos/superchargers myself, much prefer the power band of a well tuned normally aspirated engine. If i had to choose though, i'd rather a supercharger over a turbo..

Kompressor is German for supercharger, was surprised to learn that as well.Bit of a well kept secret

congo_90

I'd rather the turbo.. Means you can drive casually when needed and have then boost when required (granted it's well tuned and native to the engine) and not attached to a skangermobile

Anan1

In an ideal world, i'd rather a big engine with neither. Turbos soften the throttle response, and superchargers (to my ear) tend to sound like sh1t.

DanGerMus

Super charger all the way. Who knows someday maybe... http://www.pes-tuning.com/g4_newsletter_11_25_08.html

BTW no longer selling the car. I'd regret it forever. Phew!

unkel

tommmy1979 wrote: »

a kompressor badge is actually a trim level

My Troll0Meter™ (TOM) is deliberately undercalibrated, but that just went off the scales

Masada

lol,

Kompressor is German for ermmm, compressor, which is what a supercharger is, roughly translated.
Except when you see some pimped out corsa with "kompressor" writen in those 2 euro chrome badges from halfords, in that case its german for w@nker.

tommmy1979

unkel wrote: »

My Troll0Meter™ (TOM) is deliberately undercalibrated, but that just went off the scales

i like the way you selectively quoted me there unkel... makes me look like a right langer..

i wasn't trolling honestly, someone had me convinced that kompressor was a trim level, think it was my brother :mad: and now i look like a tool on the interweb

unkel

tommmy1979 wrote: »

i like the way you selectively quoted me there unkel... makes me look like a right langer..

i wasn't trolling honestly, someone had me convinced that kompressor was a trim level, think it was my brother :mad: and now i look like a tool on the interweb

Sorry tommmy1979

Can you get your brother to confirm this here?