Wall carving of smoke monster [**POSSIBLE SPOILERS**]

Gareth-W-A

This week in "Dead is Dead" We were shown the following image where Ben found the smoke monster:


The creature on the left is almost inarguably the smoke monster, while the figure on the left appears to be the Egyptian god Anubis:


Anubis was the god who protected the dead and brought them to the afterlife. That certainly fits in with the world of LOST, with all its undead characters wandering around.

Also if we look at the clip from "La Fleur", the statue bears a striking resemblence to the image of Anubis:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEnCxyRoO70


The prescence of the ankh amulet in past dharmaland may also be significant Anubis connections to the dharma initiative.

Lost fans have also mentioned the egyptian god Taweret as a statue possibility considering the gods depition as having 4 toes, similar headress, and also her mission of protecting pregnant women.
Judge for yourself here:
http://getlostpodcast.iimmgg.com/image/d0b6038f7ebc62f35a713d6645569b08

The appearance of the Anubis hieroglyphic, though, in such a prominent place in Smokey’s lair, suggests that even if the statue is Taweret, Anubis must also play an important role in the history of the Island.


Are there any other thoughts on the egyptian theme in lost after what we've seen in "Dead is Dead"?

brennaldo

the egyptian God thing sure fits in well with the statue thing and the whole afterlife thing aswell

HOB-it

im probably way off base here. look at the statue and you can see that the figure is clearly holding itself up (as if on crutches) - what if the face is that of Locke?

Gareth-W-A

HOB-it wrote: »

im probably way off base here. look at the statue and you can see that the figure is clearly holding itself up (as if on crutches) - what if the face is that of Locke?

Have to disagree with you there, cause if you look at the right hand of the statue, like the image of Anubis above, it appears to be curved, much like an ankh.

That Locke theory is fallable due to the statues clothing resembling egyptian depictions of the gods mentioned above.
Also, John Locke, i'm assuming, was born with five toes.

HOB-it

yeah its a long shot.

AnonoBoy

Gareth-W-A wrote: »

That Locke theory is fallable due to the statues clothing resembling egyptian depictions of the gods mentioned above.
Also, John Locke, i'm assuming, was born with five toes.

But if he went back in time then he'd probably end up wearing the clothing of the time. Also, he may have been born with five toes, but what's to say he still has five on both feet? We could very well see him lose one before the end.

HOB-it

and the door way off the island leads to the sahara in any case (as ben proved when he left) so there is some link between the two. what if ancient egyptians were transported to the island thousands of years ago. with time travel a factor we may not know if Locke was there or not. worth entertaining (but still a long shot)

jArgHA

The face of thee statue will be revealed in the season finale to be that of Vincent.

Gareth-W-A

AnonoBoy wrote: »

But if he went back in time then he'd probably end up wearing the clothing of the time. Also, he may have been born with five toes, but what's to say he still has five on both feet? We could very well see him lose one before the end.

Well i think that if he had lost a toe on one foot, the statue would be more accurately depicted with a stub or something, seeing that odds are the other foot would probably have 5 toes.
Also, i doubt the producers are going to put much more time travel into the series.
I'd reckon they've got one more trip planned, and that's for Locke, Sun, and possibly Ben to head back to 1977, and that'll be it.

There's evidence to suggest that Locke HAS to travel back to the time when the Dharma folk are killed, i.e. what Widmore said to him in the hospital in Tunisia about a war coming, and how he has to be on the right side.
This suggests, as we now know, that Widmore was on the island up until 1977 and much later, as we see him banished while Ben is a grown man, and this in itself leads us to believe that Widmore knew John Locke in the past on the island.
This in turn ties up the loose end of in a previous Locke flashback, where Matthew Abbadon visits Locke in hospital, and tells him to go on a "walkabout", which leads Locke to the island.
It is presumable that this was orchestrated by Widmore, under instructions from past Locke to influence his future and bring him to the island.


Thoughts?

Frankieboy

We're still talking about smokey right?

Is it possible Richard and Smokey are linked? Possibly the same, would help with not aging thing. I had another reason for thinking this but can't remember.

We know it takes human form.

Sad Professor

Frankieboy wrote:

Is it possible Richard and Smokey are linked? Possibly the same, would help with not aging thing. I had another reason for thinking this but can't remember.

We know it takes human form.

Anything is possible but there's no evidence to date suggesting there's any link between Smokey and Richard. The Others, according to the ever-reliable Mr Linus, don't even have a name for Smokey. Personally I think until proven otherwise, we should assume that the Others and Smokey are totally separate.

Tbh, aside from acting as a kind of Panchen Lama and right-hand man to the true leader, I don't think Richard is really all that important. He doesn't seem anymore keyed into the island than Ben. Although there is the question of his apparent immortality.

It's also worth pointing out, that we've never actually seen Smokey take the form of another person. Smokey had already completely withdrawn into the vent when Alex appeared, and Yemi walked away into the jungle before Smokey appeared to attack Eko. They've been very careful about this. So it's quite possible that Smokey and the judging-apparitions are two separate but obviously allied entities. Perhaps the apparitions are Anubis. Or perhaps, if the island controls Smokey, the apparitions are created by the island and so therefore it is the island that is making judgement on people with Smokey carrying out the sentence.

There's a temptation, however, to wrap all the mysteries of the island together and assume they are all affiliated. While certain things clearly are, the Others and whispers for example, it's not so clear with others. For example, I think it's a mistake to presume (as many do) that Jacob reflects the will of the island.

Gareth-W-A wrote:

There's evidence to suggest that Locke HAS to travel back to the time when the Dharma folk are killed, i.e. what Widmore said to him in the hospital in Tunisia about a war coming, and how he has to be on the right side.

No, I think the war Widmore referred to will take place in the present. It looks like Ilana and co work for Widmore.

PirateShampoo

Just want to point out that Widmore is on the Island intill some time after the Purge. Then ben evicts him.