Utility belt... whats in yours?

Jerico

This site wasnt too bad for ASP gear...

coach23

my belt doubles up as my public order belt cause they wouldn't spring for another belt but give you stuff to put on one (another genius idea from AGS)
right to left worn by user

ASP, Leatherman multi tool, Public order baton holder (doubles as torch holder), Large Pouch first aid...heat blanket (tinfoil type thing) for those muppets we pull out of the liffey, paper stitches gloves lots and lts of gloves steri wipes tons of em an anadin for the heart attacks and hand gel, public order bottle holder excellent kit use it as bottle on the bike, small pouchmore gloves and steri wipes, two pairs of cuffs rarely have i been to a call where just one pair of cuffs is needed gotta love templebar

on my vest is the radio pouch or tetra if they give it to us i reckon the training was just a tease, opposite side is a small led lenser torch anyone who buys it in a shop is a mug got it on ebay for nearly nothing

donvito99

coach23 wrote: »

my belt doubles up as my public order belt cause they wouldn't spring for another belt but give you stuff to put on one (another genius idea from AGS)
right to left worn by user

ASP, Leatherman multi tool, Public order baton holder (doubles as torch holder), Large Pouch first aid...heat blanket (tinfoil type thing) for those muppets we pull out of the liffey, paper stitches gloves lots and lts of gloves steri wipes tons of em an anadin for the heart attacks and hand gel, public order bottle holder excellent kit use it as bottle on the bike, small pouchmore gloves and steri wipes, two pairs of cuffs rarely have i been to a call where just one pair of cuffs is needed gotta love templebar

on my vest is the radio pouch or tetra if they give it to us i reckon the training was just a tease, opposite side is a small led lenser torch anyone who buys it in a shop is a mug got it on ebay for nearly nothing

Ever heard of a full stop?!

sdanseo

Jack O'Neill wrote: »

Better than a Utility Belt...discuss?

http://www.patrolstore.com/Protec-Overt-Equipment-Mini-Vest-p-11859.html

I'm not a guard, but from having a few things on my belt at once (torches, two-way radios etc) in the past I speculate I'd find those mad awkward. Anything above waist level just gets in the way, you can't move your arms etc. Looking at the asp for example, you'd have to pull it out as if you were going to stab someone with it, and then alter your grip completely...not my place to say but apparently lay-opinions are encouraged :P

Maybe it's different when wrestling drunken twats to the ground at 4am? :rolleyes:

donvito99

donvito99 wrote: »

Ever heard of a full stop?!

I have a few spare ones if he needs them. Here you go. .............................

Zambia

Heavy belt = Having a crap on duty is hard work:o

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Zambia232 wrote: »

Heavy belt = Having a crap on duty is hard work:o

hang it on the back of the toilet door, Sheesh do i have to think of everything????

ScubaDave

Isnt that what those hooks are for!?

FGR

...You guys have hooks on your doors?

You lot and yer fancy stations!

donvito99

Just for the sake of it...

Utility belt... whats ''in'' yours?

Don't things generally go on a utility belt.

Zambia

foinse wrote: »

hang it on the back of the toilet door, Sheesh do i have to think of everything????

I heard of someone a cash in transit guard doing just that, they drove of felt a little light, realised returned and found the belt + 38 special in the toilet with the owner and two Policemen.

She got in a bit of trouble and lost her firearms licence and subsequently her employment.

Funny this thread is here I just bought a new belt today, could not buy a Bianchi one so settled for an Uncle Mikes one instead.

djtechnics1210

A lot of contries cit guards are armed. America, canada, spain, portugal,south africa to name a few

Zambia

happyhappy wrote: »

where are the cash in transit lads armed?

My apologies here in Melbourne Brinks,Armaguard, chubb and others are all armed.

junior80

The only things needed are;
(1) Baton
(2) Handcuffs (one set you heroes)
(3) Notebook/Pen
(4) Torch (at night only!)
(5) Gloves

The ordinary beatman is not a paramedic, surgeon, mountain climber or one man public order unit.

Horrified to see members carrying all sorts of gear, what did we do before utility belts?

The belt is a nightmare to run in anyway so the lighter the better. Management considered extra pockets/loops on stab vest cover but felt it looked to aggressive, god forbid we'd be provided with practical equipment.

unidentified

hey, dunno if this was already asked or not
but do any of yous wear the back support thing
on the belt?

i always have but many people dont seem to use it.
have any of yous tried wearin it for a roster, then
takin it off for another roster

find any difference or advantage in usin it?

CharlieCroker

would you believe, I got sick of my kidney belt yesterday and took it off. Actually felt a bit better without it. You only really need it if there;s a bit of weight on the belt

junior80

The back support on the belt is of limited use, a preferable option would be to have the choice to carry some equipment on the upper body supported by the shoulders i.e on the stab vest.
Carrying most equipment around the waist simply is not practical and saps energy on a tour of duty.
Running with the utility belt is a nightmare, have seen embarrassing scenes of (relativley fit and light footed) members chasing youths to no avail while the youths turn and jog backwards taunting said panting members!:mad: Looks bad on the members and organisation in general.
It's a debate that will rage on until members are canvassed as to what their operational needs actually are.

Hooch

junior80 wrote: »

The back support on the belt is of limited use, a preferable option would be to have the choice to carry some equipment on the upper body supported by the shoulders i.e on the stab vest.
Carrying most equipment around the waist simply is not practical and saps energy on a tour of duty.
Running with the utility belt is a nightmare, have seen embarrassing scenes of (relativley fit and light footed) members chasing youths to no avail while the youths turn and jog backwards taunting said panting members!:mad: Looks bad on the members and organisation in general.
It's a debate that will rage on until members are canvassed as to what their operational needs actually are.

Solution = Stay out of McDonalds!!:p

Although they are heavy I never found a problem running with it. Now the stb vest on the other hand is a pain when jumping walls with it on

Hooch

CharlieCroker wrote: »

would you believe, I got sick of my kidney belt yesterday and took it off. Actually felt a bit better without it. You only really need it if there;s a bit of weight on the belt

Now now charlie....the bigger members of the force wouldnt like that comment:D

junior80

Yeah avoiding "the breakfast" never hurts!

In truth the "perfect" uniform doesn't exist but members have to limit the stuff they carry ,some of the stuff listed is crazy! I don't recall ever having to cross a river or perform open heart surgery during my days on the beat:D

Hooch

junior80 wrote: »

Yeah avoiding "the breakfast" never hurts!

In truth the "perfect" uniform doesn't exist but members have to limit the stuff they carry ,some of the stuff listed is crazy! I don't recall ever having to cross a river or perform open heart surgery during my days on the beat:D

Dont remember seeing river crossing kit or DIY surgery kit on the list. Think most of the things listed are good. If you only use it once its better than not having it when your roaring for it

Where were you on the beat.....Aran Island???:D

Zambia

CharlieCroker wrote: »

would you believe, I got sick of my kidney belt yesterday and took it off. Actually felt a bit better without it. You only really need it if there;s a bit of weight on the belt

The belt I am replacing has a belt in weight thingy on the back and all it does is hamper the snug fit of the belt. As a result I am buying another one.

Zambia

happyhappy wrote: »

no bother, i guessed you were talking about somewhere outside of ireland. god help us if they were!!! :D

With respect people say the same thing about arming AGS (ie they will suddenly go mad and start opening up for little or no reason), however I believe with proper licencing, selection and training. The private security industry could take over escorts of cash and the army and Garda escorts could carry out the more worthwhile duties better suited to their roles. I know of no other 1st world country where the police and army escort private cash around.

Here several ex-army personnel are employed by those companies to perform CIT. So if the same thing was to happen in Ireland what is the difference between a ex-soldier guarding a CIT van with a sidearm for a private firm. Or the same soldier guarding a CIT van holding a public owned assault rifle and sidearm in essence the man behind the weapon is the same and a greater danger to the public carrying the public array of weaponary.

Far too many things in Ireland get dismissed out of hand as beyond our capabilities when all that is lacking is the will & determination to do the thing properly. A bit like it the Irish driving licence process over the last 25 years.

However way OT for which I apologise.

eroo

Bit off topic.. but what type disposable gloves do the Gardai on here use? Do ye use them for searching people or just for hygiene reasons when dealing with bodily fluids on a person?

Much appreciate any info such as type and where ye get them!

EDIT: I need some.. that's why I'm asking! No other sinister reasons:pac:

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mcguiver wrote: »

I know one ex army medic who carries a field dressing, I suppose it makes sense.

It makes more sense to carry two - one for the entry wound & one for the exit wound (or should you be shot more than once).

.

gerire

eroo wrote: »

Bit off topic.. but what type disposable gloves do the Gardai on here use? Do ye use them for searching people or just for hygiene reasons when dealing with bodily fluids on a person?

Much appreciate any info such as type and where ye get them!

EDIT: I need some.. that's why I'm asking! No other sinister reasons:pac:

Standard issue; Loads of them in the stations; Well at the moment lets see howfar they go with this cutbacks stuff;

I have however noticed if dealing with someone in a hospital all members take the gloves from the hospital rations;

its probably to preserve their own utility belt stash rather than any other reason tho

eroo

gerire wrote: »

Standard issue; Loads of them in the stations; Well at the moment lets see howfar they go with this cutbacks stuff;

I have however noticed if dealing with someone in a hospital all members take the gloves from the hospital rations;

its probably to preserve their own utility belt stash rather than any other reason tho

Are they any good for searching people? 'N-DEX' is the brand we use, but they aren't very good for searching!

Hooch

eroo wrote: »

Are they any good for searching people? 'N-DEX' is the brand we use, but they aren't very good for searching!

Best brand to use is TNT blue, Nitrile gloves.

Have them in AGS and a lot of NAS use them too. Dont tear and comfortable to wear long use.

eroo

nice guy always wrote: »

Best brand to use is TNT blue, Nitrile gloves.

Have them in AGS and a lot of NAS use them too. Dont tear and comfortable to wear long use.

Where is best to pick them up? Also, are they cheap? I'll go threw a few pairs every day so I can't afford to be dishing out much!

Cheers for the replies NGA and gerire!:)

bushy...

SHOWA make a good range of different gloves :

http://www.showagloves.com/gloves/index.php?categoryid=3

cut proof ones might be handy.

They make rubbery bits for Honda so should be ok