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Who exactly are we borrowing from??

  • 07-04-2009 5:10pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 94 ✭✭


    according to RTE we have to borrow 20 billion this year alone

    the U.S., and most other countries in the E.U. are to borrow also to stay afloat

    and most of these countries are bailing out banks, like Ireland

    so........

    in this "world reccession" who exactly are we borrowing this money from??


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭InReality


    Its a good question.

    I don't know the exact answer but I'd imagine it would be China or maybe some gulf states.

    This would not be directly from their govt but via some financial "instruments" in the stock market.

    Hope somebody with more knowledge replies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭colrow


    Its all a Ponzi scheme !!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭robtri


    might help explain it a bit....

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_debt


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,208 ✭✭✭Économiste Monétaire


    From the March '09 bond issuance:

    marchbondgeog.jpg
    marchbondinvest.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 218 ✭✭Gu3rr1lla


    From the ECB with interest. We the people could print our own money through the government and debt free but instead we are in hoc to the central banks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 843 ✭✭✭eoinbn


    From anyone. A large % of it is government bonds that pay a good return that anyone can buy. These can be foreign governments, investment companies or private citizens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Gu3rr1lla wrote: »
    We the people could print our own money through the government debt freep
    Eh... if we printed our own money, it'd devalue the money we do have.

    Having 25 cents to buy an apple may seem less than have €405,000 to buy an apple, but as it's only to buy an apple, it means that €405,000 of our money is then equal to 25cents of everyone elses.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,208 ✭✭✭Économiste Monétaire


    For a relative view of a long-term bond issued April last year.
    aprilbond.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,539 ✭✭✭jimmmy


    As all European goverments are in debt borrowing, I would love to know how much is owed - net to institution outside the EC. I believe the oil producing nations + China are the ones lending most of the world money. Does'nt the USA owe something like 13,000,000,000,000.00 dollars from memory ( 13 trillion ) ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Nothingbetter2d


    welcome to zimbabwe, err i mean ireland lol


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