Amazon Now Deliver Everything to Ireland

Ogham

I haven't see this on Bargains yet - but it has got to mean more bargains for everyone. Amazon UK have dropped nearly all restrictions on delivery to Ireland.

See http://www.buy-online-ireland.com/2009/amazon-drop-delivery-restrictions-to-ireland/

Looks like you can get everything now except stuff over 30kg and mobile phones and toys.
If only we had the money.
Why didn't they do it before Christmas and we could all have saved loads.
Might put a stop to some of those trips over the border?:D

Onikage

April fools was last week.

Wait, what? It's real??

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200325090

Nerin

\o/ freakin awesome. Theres nothing more frustrating than finding out after you've gone through everything in your basket to find they won't ship it. Woo

nephster

Seems like all their pages haven't actually been updated yet - all electronics say still only UK, but some can be ordered. For example, add a blu-ray player and choose an Irish address and no joy at checkout. But add a power drill (!) or hard drive and it's grand.

Ogham

nephster wrote: »

Seems like all their pages haven't actually been updated yet - all electronics say still only UK, but some can be ordered. For example, add a blu-ray player and choose an Irish address and no joy at checkout. But add a power drill (!) or hard drive and it's grand.

I think you need to check that the seller is actually Amazon on that blu ray player. Many items are sold by other sellers via Amazon - and they usually won't deliver to Ireland .
I had no problem adding this blu ray player and asking for delivery to Ireland .

johnp

Fantastico!
Just got me a 1TB external drive for €89 (delivered).

Gran Hermano

I ordered all types of electrical goods from Amazon UK before they
stopped shipping here, now that I found other shops to fill the gap
Amazon left I'll most likely continue to use the other UK suppliers.

Amazon UK charge Irish VAT rates whilst most other UK retailers will
only charge you the cheaper UK VAT rate. (Yes I know a company
has to charge Irish VAT if they are selling more than a set value of goods
to Ireland).

I think Amazon UK has missed the boat and lost their dominance - a lot has
changed in the almost 5 years since they stopped.

Basq

Absolutely stupendous news!

Cheers OP.

RasTa

How heavy is a 32inch TV?

Zonda999

RasTa wrote: »

How heavy is a 32inch TV?

Almost certainly under 30kg anyway. I have a 40" and i think its only 21kg. This is great news alright. Completely unfamiliar with amazon precisely because of the previous restrictions so what are the delivery costs like. I assume that a 30kg item would be delivered by a courier?

Edit:, Yep, my one is almost exactly like this and its stating that its boxed weight is only 26kg. I wonder if this means it can be shipped? Not a bad price on it either IMO

Ogham

RasTa wrote: »

How heavy is a 32inch TV?

It is probably about 20 - 25 kg.
After a bit of investigation and trial and error - it looks like no TVs are available for delivery - even 19 inch ones. So the weight restriction can't be the reason for this? They do say that "Any product that contains flammable, pressurized, corrosive, environmentally hazardous or otherwise harmful substances classifying it as a dangerous good can only be delivered to mainland UK". Not sure why an lcd tv would come under this but a laptop wouldn't.
rasta - Delivery Rates are Here

lindtee

*Shakes fist*

Nooooooooooooooooo. I'd told myself I would cut down on internet buying and now this happens:(:(. Damn you Bargains Alerts, damn you to hellllll:mad::mad:

*am now on amazon buying lots of stuff I neither need nor can afford*

RobertFoster

What about the vidja games?

Oh.

also mobile phone and games and toys are not delivered to Ireland for some reason..

Ogham

RobertFoster wrote: »

What about the vidja games?

Oh.

No those games are kids games and board games - xbox games etc are now delivered here

Bill-e

That has made my day. Now where did I leave my credit card? , Oh wait, I know it off by heart

dahamsta

Lemmings...

Ogham

They will deliver desktop pcs with 20 inch screens - but not televisions. Seems strange ? Still - good news for everyone - unless you are looking for a TV

Nyum Nyum

dahamsta wrote: »

Lemmings...

No, they won't deliver animals.

Genghis

Just wondering if they'll ever extend their free delivery on orders over £25 to us too?

Ogham

Nyum Nyum wrote: »

No, they won't deliver animals.

MAybe it was these Lemmings dahmasta was after?

The Sparrow

PS3 for €356 delivered is not too bad. Delivery for it is only £4.96.

nephster

Ogham wrote: »

I think you need to check that the seller is actually Amazon on that blu ray player. Many items are sold by other sellers via Amazon - and they usually won't deliver to Ireland .
I had no problem adding this blu ray player and asking for delivery to Ireland .

Well, it will let me do it *now*, of course! It certainly wouldn't let me add the Panasonic DMP-BD35EB-K earlier. Promise!

As others have noted, ALL TVs seem to be excluded, although the OP on http://www.buy-online-ireland.com/2009/amazon-drop-delivery-restrictions-to-ireland/ says he managed to get a TV to go through. Odd that they specially say they won't ship widescreens over 26" but still exclude all.

ShaneU

Most of the games on amazon are cheaper on sendit.

elmicko

About 10 minutes after posting a long rant on Amazon charging more than the advertised prices, I realised that Amazon are charging the Irish VAT rate of 21.5%. So, long story short, add around 5.5% to the price of electrical products. This gets added right at the end, just before you make your purchase.

Original Post:
I noticed this yesterday as I was looking for an external hard drive and sat nav and couldn't believe it, I just chanced my arm and hey presto, they were delivering. Brilliant.

Now, to add a little bad news, they jack up the prices.

Yep, when you go through to pay for the item, the price that was in the basket is not what you pay. I'll show you my example, which saves you having to go through the process. You'll see I changed my mind on the hard drive, as komplett is pretty much the same price, I did however go for a George Foreman grill.

So, this is the confirmation email I got today, I also ordered a book, which has been shipped.

---

Qty Item Price Not Yet Shipped

---

1 Braun Oral-B Professional Car £20.68 1

1 George Foreman 14525 Grill an £63.24 1

1 Garmin Nuvi 265T Satellite Na £149.33 1

1 Skil 2348 Cordless Screwdrive £10.55 1

so taking the Garmin Nuvi 265T as an example, you'll see if you follow the link, it is £138.

Now, that is not the full story, although this item's delivery is fulfilled by Amazon, us Irish can't avail of it, you get the same old geographic restriction error message. Please also note, that if you search Amazon for a Garmin Nuvi 265T, the above link is the one you'll get. I had to order the item that was sold and dispatched by Amazon, not one of their merchants (even those merchants whose delivery Amazon is fulfilling). To order directly from Amazon, I had to use the More Buying Choices column on the RHS of the screen. So, long story slightly shortened, the Garmin Nuvi (shipped & sold by Amazon) is £141.31.

I've seen the prices for Amazon Western Europe Delivery rates but that doesn't explain the £8.02 difference in the £141.31 (above) and the £149.33 I was charged.

The George foreman grill is £59.93 but as you'll see above, I was charged £63.24.

I was also charged a total of £13.93 + VAT for postage and packing.

It is very annoying, as you have to go right through to the final step of ordering to get the true cost. If you want to see this in action, use the Western Digital My Passport Essential 500GB Portable Hard Drive -Midnight Black as an example. It is 98.85 but turns into £104.44 when you go through to pay (not including delivery of 3.98+vat)

All in all, it is great news. It could just be a bit more transparent.

A final word of advice, change the currency to GBP, their exchange rate seem to be a jib.

Mick

Gran Hermano

elmicko wrote: »

I've seen the prices for Amazon Western Europe Delivery rates but that doesn't explain the £8.02 difference in the £141.31 (above) and the £149.33 I was charged.

The George foreman grill is £59.93 but as you'll see above, I was charged £63.24.

I was also charged a total of £13.93 + VAT for postage and packing.

The prices in your basket are showing UK VAT, when you checkout with an Irish
address they increase the price from the UK price to show
the price including the Irish VAT rate, that's the difference you are seeing.
Amazon have done this since before they even stopped shipping most
goods to ireland.

This is why I recommended people to save the VAT difference and buy
from a retailer that will only charge you the UK VAT and let you save
the 5%+.

johnp

elmicko wrote: »

I noticed this yesterday as I was looking for an external hard drive and sat nav and couldn't believe it, I just chanced my arm and hey presto, they were delivering. Brilliant.

Now, to add a little bad news, they jack up the prices.

Yep, when you go through to pay for the item, the price that was in the basket is not what you pay. I'll show you my example, which saves you having to go through the process. You'll see I changed my mind on the hard drive, as komplett is pretty much the same price, I did however go for a George Foreman grill.

So, this is the confirmation email I got today, I also ordered a book, which has been shipped.

---

Qty Item Price Not Yet Shipped

---

1 Braun Oral-B Professional Car £20.68 1

1 George Foreman 14525 Grill an £63.24 1

1 Garmin Nuvi 265T Satellite Na £149.33 1

1 Skil 2348 Cordless Screwdrive £10.55 1

so taking the Garmin Nuvi 265T as an example, you'll see if you follow the link, it is £138.

Now, that is not the full story, although this item's delivery is fulfilled by Amazon, us Irish can't avail of it, you get the same old geographic restriction error message. Please also note, that if you search Amazon for a Garmin Nuvi 265T, the above link is the one you'll get. I had to order the item that was sold and dispatched by Amazon, not one of their merchants (even those merchants whose delivery Amazon is fulfilling). To order directly from Amazon, I had to use the More Buying Choices column on the RHS of the screen. So, long story slightly shortened, the Garmin Nuvi (shipped & sold by Amazon) is £141.31.

I've seen the prices for Amazon Western Europe Delivery rates but that doesn't explain the £8.02 difference in the £141.31 (above) and the £149.33 I was charged.

The George foreman grill is £59.93 but as you'll see above, I was charged £63.24.

I was also charged a total of £13.93 + VAT for postage and packing.

It is very annoying, as you have to go right through to the final step of ordering to get the true cost. If you want to see this in action, use the Western Digital My Passport Essential 500GB Portable Hard Drive -Midnight Black as an example. It is 98.85 but turns into £104.44 when you go through to pay (not including delivery of 3.98+vat)

All in all, it is great news. It could just be a bit more transparent.

A final word of advice, change the currency to GBP, their exchange rate seem to be a jib.

Mick

VAT? Subtract the UK VAT and adding the Irish VAT?

swingking

Tried to buy an iphone case from them just there and this is the message I get

*** We're sorry. This item can't be shipped to your selected destination. You may either change the shipping address or delete the item from your order by changing its quantity to 0 and clicking the update button below. ( See geographical restrictions.) ***

WTF??

_Whimsical_

swingking wrote: »

Tried to buy an iphone case from them just there and this is the message I get

*** We're sorry. This item can't be shipped to your selected destination. You may either change the shipping address or delete the item from your order by changing its quantity to 0 and clicking the update button below. ( See geographical restrictions.) ***

WTF??

Are you sure you aren't trying to buy from a private seller on amazon market place? They still have their individual shipping restrictions in place.

Amazon.co.uk do not sell mobile phones outside of the Uk but it looks like accessories should be available.

Skyuser

I tried to buy a freesat box....no good.

denat

It's good to have the choices that Amazon give, even if we Irish are getting screwed in some aspects.

We might as well get used to being screwed left, right and centre for the rest of our lives so Bargain Alerts are more important than ever!

Thanks to op.

nephster

OK, so TVs and toys seem to be out for the mo, but for everything else, the easiest way to filter out the Marketplace sellers seems to be to do a search and then on the left click on Shipping Option - Prime Eligible. That just leaves stuff sold by actual Amazon. If you don't do this it's going to drive you bugnuts - as you'll see summat you want, but it'll be sold by a Marketplace seller and you can't get it. Of course some Marketplace sellers DO ship to Ireland, so it's not perfect

EDIT:
Also just found this:
"Medicines, blank CDs and DVDs can only be delivered to addresses within the UK. Light bulbs and *TV equipment* cannot be shipped to Ireland (Republic of)."

So no tellies for us

Ogham

Gran Hermano wrote: »

T

This is why I recommended people to save the VAT difference and buy
from a retailer that will only charge you the UK VAT and let you save
the 5%+.

Who are these UK retailers? Do they have the product choices and pricing as good as Amazon ?

Gran Hermano

Ogham wrote: »

Who are these UK retailers? Do they have the product choices and pricing as good as Amazon ?

You expect me to list all the shops I've ordered from online since Amazon ignored their Irish customers?
From the website you're advertising in your signature I can see you're aware there are more shops than Amazon
that ship here.

I'm not saying not to use Amazon but to not automatically assume that they
are the cheapest for everything and also to take note that the price you
see is not the price you pay until you login/checkout with an account
with an Irish address and they adjust the VAT.

As for other retailers, I can assure you that I have successfully continued
to shop online for all my needs whilst Amazon turned it's back on it's Irish
customers whilst they took 5 years to sort out their recycling policy.
I didn't hear of many people stopping their online shopping because
Amazon stopped shipping to Ireland, people just bought elsewhere as
is evident by the threads here.


Yes Amazon stock a wide range of products but like any retailer it pays
to shop around for price.

byte

I think the reason Amazon have started shipping electrical goods here again, is because the WEEE/PRF charge on most electrical goods is now zero as of about 6 months ago. There's still a recycling charge on TV's though, which may explain why they won't ship TV's over here.

Tony

Forgive my ignorance but what is the logic of them charging Irish VAT? Is there some volume threshold forcing them to do this?

Martin_F

Gran Hermano wrote: »

This is why I recommended people to save the VAT difference and buy
from a retailer that will only charge you the UK VAT and let you save
the 5%+.

It might seem like a good idea to pay UK VAT instead of Irish VAT to save 5 percent - but long term doing that only puts this country deeper in the economic mire. When amazon charge Irish VAT it goes to our exchechquer to pay for hospitals & schools here. If you pay UK vat - you are paying for the NHS & uk schools. So if you can find a reasonable deal that includes Irish VAT you should consider it strongly. I've no qualms about shopping abroad for a huge saving - but for the sake of a few percent... Amazon usually do reasonable prices. All said and done they were stupid to increase vat - and missed the chance to correct it today I think.

Tony

Martin_F wrote: »

All said and done they were stupid to increase vat - and missed the chance to correct it today I think.

You got that right my friend

Martin_F

Tony wrote: »

Forgive my ignorance but what is the logic of them charging Irish VAT? Is there some volume threshold forcing them to do this?

Yes - if you do more than a certain amount of trade in to a country you are suppossed to charge the VAT rate for there I think. A big shop like Amazon can't go unnoticed - smaller retailers are either below the volume - or go un noticed/challenged.

jaybee747

Excellant stuff, better get back and re order all those items that wait until your at the check out to tell you SORRY! this item can....

dubmick

this is particularly good news for someone who just got a £45 Amazon voucher for his birthday

Martin_F

byte wrote: »

I think the reason Amazon have started shipping electrical goods here again, is because the WEEE/PRF charge on most electrical goods is now zero as of about 6 months ago. There's still a recycling charge on TV's though, which may explain why they won't ship TV's over here.

I think there is also some part of weee legislation that forces them to collect for free the goods that you are replacing. I noticed recently Komplete indicating they will collect - but were slow to do so - and the Amazon site now lists some drop off points around Ireland - and a number to ring if you need it collected. That kind of legislation is bordering on a trade restriction to remote selling imho.

What I don't undestand is the restrictions on toys that were in place for a long time - any one any idea? They were not covered by weee.

Gran Hermano

Martin_F wrote: »

What I don't undestand is the restrictions on toys that were in place for a long time - any one any idea? They were not covered by weee.

My guess is it's down to distribution rights for particular products, with the
UK importer not an authorised agent and having rights to sell in Ireland.

And thanks for the VAT and tax info, I guess that since it's almost 15 years
since I studied economics in university I needed the revision on how
an economy operates.

nephster

Martin_F wrote: »

Yes - if you do more than a certain amount of trade in to a country you are suppossed to charge the VAT rate for there I think. A big shop like Amazon can't go unnoticed - smaller retailers are either below the volume - or go un noticed/challenged.

Yup. Up to a certain level of sales of taxable goods by a company you pay the VAT of their base country - so if you buy something from Denmark it's normally 25% VAT! However, once a seller goes over the VAT threshold for sales in the buyer's country (i.e., they would have to register for VAT if they were from that country) they are supposed to charge that country's VAT.

As Amazon sell more than €51000 taxable goods in Ireland - DVDs etc as books aren't taxed - they have to charge Irish VAT.

So, I think part of the exchange rate mark-up of Play *should* actually be increased VAT on items over £18, as they are supposed to charge VAT on these items. Whether it is, is another matter :rolleyes:

Ogham

nephster wrote: »

Yup. Up to a certain level of sales of taxable goods by a company you pay the VAT of their base country - so if you buy something from Denmark it's normally 25% VAT! However, once a seller goes over the VAT threshold for sales in the buyer's country (i.e., they would have to register for VAT if they were from that country) they are supposed to charge that country's VAT.

As Amazon sell more than €51000 taxable goods in Ireland - DVDs etc as books aren't taxed - they have to charge Irish VAT.

So, I think part of the exchange rate mark-up of Play *should* actually be increased VAT on items over £18, as they are supposed to charge VAT on these items. Whether it is, is another matter :rolleyes:

As per Revenue.ie

"Where the value of distance sales to the State by a supplier in another EU Member State exceeds €35,000 in a calendar year that supplier must register for VAT in the State and must account for VAT at the appropriate Irish rates. If the threshold is not exceeded, the supplier may opt to register and account for VAT in the State on his or her distance sales"

35k a year is less than 100 euro a day.
I am pretty sure that most - if not all "proper" retailers selling to Ireland would sell at least that much a day . So they should all be charging Irish Vat to Irish customers.
Who is supposed to be keeping track of this I wonder? It could be a help with the budget deficit if the Revenue kept on top of it.

nephster

I stand corrected on the figure Crikey, that really is a low amount!

banchang

Afraid they dont ship electricals, as before

tried to buy the Logitech Squeezebox Boom

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001EWDVXG/ref=s9_sims_c8_s1_p23_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=0YWZVFCM0WM3MDWV0Q1S&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=463374953&pf_rd_i=468294

Same message

nephster

Pick the one sold by Amazon under More Buying Choices, not a Marketplace seller.

That said, the Amazon one seems out of stock.

byte

It's not sold by Amazon.. (the one you linked to anyway)

In stock.
Dispatched from and sold by Digital Components Ltd.

Onikage

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B001EWDVXG/ref=pd_luc_mri?_encoding=UTF8&m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

byte

Onikage wrote: »

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B001EWDVXG/ref=pd_luc_mri?_encoding=UTF8&m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

Ah, cheaper too. Just be prepared to wait up to 2 months for delivery!

elmicko

As Amazon is charging the Irish VAT rate, I would assume it is going to the Irish Exchequer, please correct me if I am mistaken but I now feel a whole lot better about my purchases. We all win (loss of packing jobs in Amazon plant excepted), we get products that even with the price difference of Irish VAT (the 5.5% premium on the initially advertised price) and delivery charges, the price is most likely much cheaper than Irish retail (or online) stores. This is nothing but a good thing, and at 5.5% a premium that I am willing to pay for the convenience, no, I mean to do my patriotic duty and support the exchequer in these tough times....