G&G SR-25 vs spring bolt action

General Grobel

Hi all,
I want to be a sniper(Ive already heard the whole ''with our FPS theres no point'' line) and was wondering which is better in terms of range and accuracy. Ive my heart set on the SR-25 but if enybody has any suggestions that would be great.
Thanks.

NakedDex

An SR25 isn't, nor will it ever be, a sniper rifle. It's not quiet enough to allow you to hide and take stealthy shots, the key of being a sniper. It is, however, a brilliant marksman's rifle where accuracy is needed, but so is the ability to move with your squad and fight effectively in a unit.
A sniper rifle isn't a sniper rifle unless it's a bolt action. AEG's just cannot be sniper rifles, I don't care what anyone says about how 1337 their scope and bipod is. Being a sniper is about being stealthy and hidden while still providing effective fire and surveillance. No AEG can provide a kill as quiet or accurate as a good bolt action rifle.

The G&G SR25 is a fantastic rifle, but if you want to become a sniper you can get a TM VSR G-Spec with some upgrades and a good scope for the same money and still have change enough for a ghillie suit and some mags.

General Grobel

oh right, but accuracy wise are they on par? and if I were to get a bolt action rifle, which should I go for; the JG or TM vsr?
Thanks

desertstorm

NakedDex wrote: »

A sniper rifle isn't a sniper rifle unless it's a bolt action.

I'd have to disagree with you there... but it is true that to be a good sniper in airsoft you need something thats quiet as its pretty much the only advantage you'll have, and you cant beat the quietness of a bolt action once you've put a bit of love into it!

Also on a side note the SR-25 is considered a sniper rifle, its replacing the M24 apparently?

my bro has the jg g-spec and I've used a friends vsr gspec and to be honest the only difference I could tell was that the bolt was easier to pull back in the vsr. once you get one of those stuffed with foam for sound dampening, theyre lovely

NakedDex

The G&G SR25 is one of the most accurate AEG's I've used. However, it will be outshot by a good sniper who knows their fieldcraft, and the stability provided by a bolt action system when firing makes for an overall more accurate firing platform.

Of the sniper rifles, the TM VSR is king. The JG is a clone of the TM, and a good one at that, but the king retains it's throne. The only issue with the TM is that it fires at around 270 out of the box. However, if you're willing to spend SR25 money, then you'll have plenty left over after getting the VSR for upgrades like a Laylax spring to bring it up to 1J and a decent scope.

desertstorm wrote: »

Also on a side note the SR-25 is considered a sniper rifle, its replacing the M24 apparently?

In real steel it is. In airsoft, things work differently. Having a rifle that's designated a sniper-type in the real world, doesn't mean it's going to perform the same way here. A grenade launcher in the real world will blow seven shades of smeg out of a wall, in our world it'll rattle off it like nothing happened.
It's all well and good emulating a realistic system, but a grain of salt has to be taken with it for our sport. This is the sniper rifle equivalent of the box mag argument (in that there's two distinctly opposing camps, not that it ruins a skirmish like box mags).

desertstorm

another thing to remember is that if you get in a spot of trouble with guys closing in on you, you can get out alot more shots with the sr-25 than a bolt-action, so thats a pro for the sr-25 you've gota think about? either that or you could just get a back up like an mp5 or something

NakedDex

That's another thing I really hate seeing, snipers carrying bulky (relatively speaking) smg's as "back ups". If you, as a sniper, get into a situation where you need more than a pistol mag to get yourself to safety, then you've smegged up royally somewhere and having a mag on auto ready to go isn't going to make much difference. Coupled with the fact that having an smg of any description slung to you is an awkward impediment when trying to climb a tree or sneak through dense growth.
A good pistol should be more than sufficient. If you absolutely must have auto, get a Glock 18. Same size, same effect, a quarter of the size, none of the hassle. The best snipers I've seen don't even bring a sidearm.

Stercus Accidit

A good sniper should need nothing more than a desert eagle with a scope on it, maybe even two, to pwn all n00bs in a l33t manner.

With maybe an m249 as a backup, in a thigh holster.

If you cant pull that sh1t off and get all the kills from up a tree, you're no kind of sniper in my eyes.

Stercus Accidit

Having pried my tongue from my cheek, you'll find accuracy wise, an aeg with a decent hop rubber, and good quality tightbore barrel in a clean condition, with the aegs piston seal etc. offering consistent fps, it will be as accurate as a sniper rifle.

The longer the barrel, obviously you'll get some accuracy increase, but it becomes less of a factor past 400mm if the barrel is a good one.

BB weight is a factor in sniping, given their nature of concealment and sneaky shots, a bb being slower but more accurate is worth more to them.


You can be on a par with a sniper accuracy wise, even using heavy bb's, but you wouldn't get a heavy bb to hit with its slow velocity unless you are sneaky, and having a noisy aeg will be your downfall in that regard.

General Grobel

Thanks all for your input. I think if I go for a sniper ill go for the JG version. But I was wondering, is it at all possible to get an AEG to be nearly as quiet as bolt action? even it if was an SMG or something along those lines, it doesn't necessarily have to be a marksman's rifle like the SR-25.
Thanks.

FunkBlaster87

My brother has a TM m14 socom which is surprisingly quiet. Hasn't modded the internals or anything, just put a silencer on it(which probably had very little effect). By far the quietest AEG i've ever heard

Stercus Accidit

I've an mp5 sd5 with element silent piston stuff in it, got it as a repair project, an aeg is only as quiet as its motor, Its quiet, but I've heard the tm socom and a good bar10 used, much quieter.

General Grobel

Does the silent piston make a significant difference? Say I got a gear box with the silent piston and a good shim job, added insulation everywhere possible around the gear box and added a silencer for good measure, would that make it as quite as a bolt action or close enough? and what AEG would be a good candidate, preferably an SMG.

Stercus Accidit

Well the motor makes the most noise.

You are as well making a foam buffer for the cylinder to hit as the element kit, I personally wouldn't have gotten one bar that it came with the aeg I bought.
Reviews state that the element kit is so-so, as are most of their products tbh.

Find a way to dampen the motor, there sound damping stuff you can get in motor factors, and a good shim job, with some foam damping in the cylinder would quieten it a good bit.

FunkBlaster87

Might also be worth considering the position of the motor in different guns. The M14's motor is surronded by its bulky body while m4/MP5's etc have the motor in the pistol grip which has little sound dampening.

zero19

My tm mk.23 is as quiet as a mouse wearing slippers in a church, which makes me think someone should make a nbb semi auto dmr rifle, imagine how quiet that could be with a decent silencer!

Stercus Accidit

zero19 wrote: »

My tm mk.23 is as quiet as a mouse wearing slippers in a church, which makes me think someone should make a nbb semi auto dmr rifle, imagine how quiet that could be with a decent silencer!

VSS vintorez!