Is now a good time to buy a Range Rover?

jizzyboner

Hi there

Have been looking for an early current shape Range Rover Vogue, around 02 - 03 and even though prices seem to have dropped they still seem to be all over the place on carzone - starting at about €12,500 all the way up to €23,750 and some have been there for months at the same price. The cheaper ones may be commercial or from the north but i can always hope.

Basically looking for owner opinions from anyone with experience of that model. It would be great to know what to look for especially with anything thats a usual and common problem.

I am sure there will be some that will say there's never a good time to buy a Range Rover :eek: but i will actually be using it offroad and not just for the school run. Thats why I don't need one too new as I don't want to be worrying too much about scratching it.

I am sure there are people here with good knowledge of all things Range Rover so it would be great to get some good advice.

Want a Vogue as I'd like to get the satnav and TV built in, which isn't usually standard in the early HSE or SE, and the 3.0 TD6.

Many thanks

CharlieCroker

They're a lovely jeep and thay have fantastic spec in them (which it'd want to at €117k new).
I'd just be wary of them cos I've seen some of the service bills on them when I used sell them.
Could easily sink €3 or €4k into one for repairs.
They've something painful like 9 ECU's.

I'd love on myself but if it was my money i'd be looking at a landcruiser for an easy life

jizzyboner

Thanks Charlie

Good advice. I know they're cheap now but as you say, at 117k new then a lot of things won't be cheap when it needs fixing.

Still if I can get the right spec at the right money, then for me it might be worth a chance - probably hard to find one at that age with a half decent warranty with all that to go wrong

I know a Landcruiser would probably be more reliable but for me i prefer the RR.

I'll keep looking though

Thanks again

L-M

You may see a few for around 17-18k in 02, between 18k and 40k you could really jump up a good few years. I wouldn't restrict yourself to a 02, have a look at the prices of 03's and 04's as well.

The SE will have a very basic spec, it will have leather, but they won't be heated. As you probably know, they are all auto and there was only a minor facelift in 05, and an engine change in 06. The engine is a straight six diesel, made by BMW. Same engine as the X5 but AFAIK it isn't as powerful (IIRC the X5 is either tuned more, or has an extra turbo)

Things to look out for. Service history. I think this is one of the main things you should be after, mileage isn't hugely relevant, but just make sure it has a full service history, and that it has been looked after. Dash clocks and the radio display and known to loose dots (ie. the numbers and letting are built up by little lights, and these tend to go so you have a bit of guess work reading). They are fairly expensive to replace, so finding one with them working or with them replaced already will be your best bet. Anything 02 should have an nct until next year and anything 03 will be due this year, so make sure that's done. Front diff oils seals are known to go as well, these should have been replaced, but make sure to check service history.

After that, check the airsuspension works, and all corners go up evenly and down. There are three height settings, high, low and normal driving. It should go fairly high on it's highest setting. For the air to work, the door will have to be closed. (The dial for the air is on the lower part of the dash, under the radio. You should see the buttons for the heated seats on it as well) Make sure the High/Low gearbox engages and works. Make sure the gearbox works perfectly, as these are known to go also and can be costly to replace. They are very heavy, and the engine is very loud so those two are normal, rather than something to worry about lol.

Make sure when buying, they aren't rebadged, as badges can easily be got. Just a few simple things to differentiat between the models(note, these could of been bought as an extra, but you should be able to tell). A Vogue will have the Satnav and a higher quality leather, a different headrest as well. A HSE should have heated seats and front and rear reversing sensors. An Se won't have sensors or heated seats.

Stay away from petrols, unless you want it to stay with you for life.

Armin_Tamzarian

Well, if you're a Liverpool fan why not kill two birds with the one
stone and buy Stevie-G's Range Rover Vogue.

Currently for sale on Autorader.co.uk

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/EDITORIAL/car_page_content/steven_gerrard_range_rover_sport_for_sale.html

rabbitinlights

Limerick man wrote: »

Stay away from petrols, unless you want it to stay with you for life.

There is a 4.6L Petrol model always parked near work....... A Westminster version, I've spoken to the owner a few times and he find's it tough to get above 10mpg around town........:eek:

L-M

rabbitinlights wrote: »

There is a 4.6L Petrol model always parked near work....... A Westminster version, I've spoken to the owner a few times and he find's it tough to get above 10mpg around town........:eek:

Aye, I had a fella try to trade one in last year who sneakily didn't tell me the engine. I rarely come across them in petrol, and I was just about to give him a price, and I just said "She's diesel, ya?". No, he smiled "4.6 petrol"

Er... Good luck :P

Even the 4.4 of 4.2, very hard sell.

stratos

I think wait another bit see what the budget brings. I am price watching something in the same bracket and I think the prices will drop some more. I would be happy to take on a range rover. They are are easy enough to work on with some research. If you wanted a blob mass jeep the landcruiser is better. But the range Rover offers something more, style in buckets. Good luck with your search.

bazz26

I always liked the customised Overfinch version of the RR:

CharlieCroker

I hate threads like this!!!
Everything in my head is telling me that buying one is a bad idea but if you told us next week that you'd bought one i'd secretly be thinking "lucky b**tard"
I'm even looking at them on Autotrader right now. :eek:

Guy:Incognito

Armin_Tamzarian wrote: »

Well, if you're a Liverpool fan why not kill two birds with the one
stone and buy Stevie-G's Range Rover Vogue.

Currently for sale on Autorader.co.uk

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/EDITORIAL/car_page_content/steven_gerrard_range_rover_sport_for_sale.html

I'd say its sold. Currently = 15 months ago.

garyegt

why bother get one? ok they are cool looking jeeps but are you a black rapper that lives in america? everyone and i mean EVERYONE who i see drivin those is an absolute co*k on the road....

how much off roading you plannin doin? is it just todrive through a field or are ya climbing the cliffs of mohor?

toyota land cruiser! big mad powerful jeep virtually inderstuctable once well maintained and ya wont automatically be labelled a c*nt drivin it.

sorry just my opinion.....

stratos

You don't see many rr vogues on the road here. You do see a lot of rr sport hse's these are not range rovers and are built on a Discovery chassis. The rr vogue is a class act.

Johnboy Mac

Do yourself a big favour and consider a Toyota Landcruiser Amazon 4.2 TD straight six auto.

cianclarke

Johnboy Mac wrote: »

Do yourself a big favour and consider a Toyota Landcruiser Amazon 4.2 TD straight six auto.

+1, the Amazon is the RR's equal perhaps not in the looks department, but in every other.. They are tanks, completely unstoppable and incredibly reliable.

Do-more

I know a plasterer who back in the heady days of the tiger had two '05 RR's the proper ones not the sport and both suffered diff failure, no warning at all just complete loss of drive. Seems it's a known problem.

L-M

Do-more wrote: »

I know a plasterer who back in the heady days of the tiger had two '05 RR's the proper ones not the sport and both suffered diff failure, no warning at all just complete loss of drive. Seems it's a known problem.

DECEMBER 2008 -- Land Rover is recalling 19,168 MY 2003-2005 Range Rover vehicles. The front differential coupling sleeve and the propeller shaft may be misaligned, resulting in spline wear over a period of time. As the wear between the propeller shaft and the differential spline coupling progresses, noise and vibration are expected. Continued vehicle operation can eventually result in the splines shearing and a loss of drive, increasing the risk of a crash. Dealers will install a revised design of the propeller shaft, the flange kit and heat shield kit. The recall is expected to begin during January 2009. This recall was the subject of an Engineering Analysis, EA07-012, conducted by the Office of Defects Investigation. 08V635

Cionád

bazz26 wrote: »

I always liked the customised Overfinch version of the RR:

jizzyboner

Limerick man wrote: »

Thanks guys and thanks limerick man - i had a feeling you knew a lot about all things RR and LR.

Wouldn't really go for the petrol unless it was given to me as a present, and even then i'd have to think not twice but about 40 times

Just out of curiosity - i did see the above recall but why they start from 03 models? what about the poor 02 models? would they not be affected at all? Doesn't sound right to me anyway or maybe they just had a bad batch for a few years.

I looked at the RR sport recently but they seem to be very short of room in the back - i am quite tall (6ft 2in) and i also found the backrest of the back seat was very far down my back and sticking into me without raising the rear headrest

Did see this RR sport in carzone yesterday - looks to be a bargain for a 2006 - probably an SE - possibly a repo job - nice though if its what ur looking for.

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Land-Rover/Range-Rover-Sport/2.7-SPOR/200913192309292/advert

A guy i know near to me has a project kahn sport - 2006 - bought originally from Des Cullen - was for sale recently for 75k - now dropped to 69,950 - but its 4.2 supercharged petrol :eek: another one that will be hard to give away as a present right now.

thanks anyway for all the help and answers - i will keep looking

jizzyboner

garyegt wrote: »

why bother get one? ok they are cool looking jeeps but are you a black rapper that lives in america? everyone and i mean EVERYONE who i see drivin those is an absolute co*k on the road....

how much off roading you plannin doin? is it just todrive through a field or are ya climbing the cliffs of mohor?

toyota land cruiser! big mad powerful jeep virtually inderstuctable once well maintained and ya wont automatically be labelled a c*nt drivin it.

sorry just my opinion.....

hey gary

ha ha thats funny - just for the record i am neither black or a rapper my mother used to say i sing between the keys on a piano - when i sing i hit notes that can only be heard by whales and dolphins

as far as i know i am a very courteous driver but i do drive professionally as well so not your typical gangsta rapper - wouldn't buy a white one though then i might look like a drug dealer especially with the tinted windows and pimp my ride 24" alloys.

i will be going off road but mostly fields and tracks that i wouldn't dream of taking an S class merc up - not sure about cliffs of moher - go there often but i get scared to be too close to the edge - not like some of the silly saps i see there

toyota LC is ok but not really appeals to me sadly - just the ambiance of the RR does it for me - an S class that will go up the side of a house if needed plus i hate the japanese wood effect inside - plastic wood i call it.

thanks again

jizzyboner

Cionád wrote: »

woah not for me sadly

a sport with pink interior and wheels and grille

my family and neighbours would think i'd changed my name to Gaylord Focker

Johnboy Mac

jizzyboner wrote: »

toyota LC is ok but not really appeals to me sadly

It's not a toyota LC, it's a Toyota Landcruiser AMAZON 4.2TD. That's totally different 4x4. Cost nothing to test drive and less to maintain.

Anan1

OP - Do you do much mileage? If not, i'd be thinking of picking up a big petrol-engined one cheaply enough to justify the running costs. A 3.0d in one of those would upset me every time I drove it.

jizzyboner

Anan1 wrote: »

OP - Do you do much mileage? If not, i'd be thinking of picking up a big petrol-engined one cheaply enough to justify the running costs. A 3.0d in one of those would upset me every time I drove it.

hi anan

mileage would be about 20,000 miles a year give or take - i understand exactly what you're saying - a UK 4X4 magazine said exactly the same thing a few months ago. funny thing is that the petrol V8 back in 2002 was a good bit more expensive than the diesel and in ireland i still see the petrols selling for more than the 3.0 diesel.

whatever about the diesel, i am sure that if you had a V8 petrol then you would be married to it for life. the BMW 4.4 V8 is a nice engine though if someone else is paying the bills

thanks

jizzyboner

Johnboy Mac wrote: »

It's not a toyota LC, it's a Toyota Landcruiser AMAZON 4.2TD. That's totally different 4x4. Cost nothing to test drive and less to maintain.

you're quite right Johnboy

i'll have a look at the amazon and see what i think - i remember years ago seeing them coming in as japanese imports - curtains, fridges and everything that time

don't know though - to me still seems more of a tank than the RR but that's just me.

skyhighflyer

I agree with Anan1. I was actually looking at one of these myself not so long ago and the petrol made a case for itself as I only cover about 4000 miles a year.

4.4 V8 - 15mpg:

1211 litres of fuel per year at 99.9c/l = €1209

3.0 TD6 - 23mpg

789 litres of fuel per year at 89.9 c/l = €710

Added to the extra €340 road tax on the V8 and you're talking just €840 more per year to run.


EDIT: I see you do 20k a year, well that's it then

At the time (not sure what values are like now) I could have had a 2004 V8 for between 10 and 15k less than the equivalent TD6. Meaning that it would have theoretically taken 15 years for me to see an advantage from the TD6!

Stephen

Recaluclate next week when they hike petrol again in the budget :eek:

Cionád

Stephen wrote: »

Recaluclate next week when they hike petrol again in the budget :eek:

Aye, they'll hike diesel too. 20cent each at least I'd wager.

Fill up on Monday!

Anan1

jizzyboner wrote: »

hi anan

mileage would be about 20,000 miles a year give or take - i understand exactly what you're saying - a UK 4X4 magazine said exactly the same thing a few months ago. funny thing is that the petrol V8 back in 2002 was a good bit more expensive than the diesel and in ireland i still see the petrols selling for more than the 3.0 diesel.

whatever about the diesel, i am sure that if you had a V8 petrol then you would be married to it for life. the BMW 4.4 V8 is a nice engine though if someone else is paying the bills

thanks

20,000 miles pa is a lot, I suppose the fuel bills would add up. On the other hand, if you buy an 03 now and keep it for say 3yrs and 60k miles it's not going to be worth much more than €5000 at the end anyway, petrol or diesel. Still and all, the petrol one would have to be a good bit cheaper now to make the fiigures add up.

skyhighflyer

Stephen wrote: »

Recaluclate next week when they hike petrol again in the budget :eek:

Yeah, I know that but I reackon that no matter what way they do it they'll keep a gap of around 10c between petrol and diesel to keep hauliers happy. So even if petrol goes up to 1.20 and diesel to 1.10 the relative difference in running costs reamins the same

L-M

jizzyboner wrote: »

Just out of curiosity - i did see the above recall but why they start from 03 models? what about the poor 02 models? would they not be affected at all? Doesn't sound right to me anyway or maybe they just had a bad batch for a few years.

TBH, I don't know, but I will find out for you.

I looked at the RR sport recently but they seem to be very short of room in the back - i am quite tall (6ft 2in) and i also found the backrest of the back seat was very far down my back and sticking into me without raising the rear headrest.

The RRS is in a completely different league to the RR. The RRS is alot more compact, you'll find every alot closer together. The RR then is alot bigger, more open spaced. As you'll be going up to 05/06 in the RRS you'll be moving up in technology. The RRS will come with Terrain Response apposed to the RR in 02/03 which just allowed you to raise and lower the height. Terrain response allows you do alot more, and should be highlighted in the sig. The RRS also comes with a electric handbrake, which I don't know if it's a good or bad thing, as they seem to go alot, check if it has been replaced, if not, expect it.

Did see this RR sport in carzone yesterday - looks to be a bargain for a 2006 - probably an SE - possibly a repo job - nice though if its what ur looking for.

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Land-Rover/Range-Rover-Sport/2.7-SPOR/200913192309292/advert

She's an SE spec alright. Heated seats, auto lights on, on steering control and the leather. Although saying SE spec doesn't mean a whole pile, as even though it has all those bits, it's the entry model. (If you do come across an S, ie. no air suspension or leather and 17" wheels, just run from it. There were little of them sold anyway.) So any RRS should come with a decent standard spec. That one has high enough km's, just make sure it has a SH as I said. IIRC timing belt won't be due for another 50k on it...

A guy i know near to me has a project kahn sport - 2006 - bought originally from Des Cullen - was for sale recently for 75k - now dropped to 69,950 - but its 4.2 supercharged petrol :eek: another one that will be hard to give away as a present right now.

thanks anyway for all the help and answers - i will keep looking

I saw that yoke for 70k, I still think it's well overpriced in the current climate, although someone may hand out the money for it.

Do-more

OP watch out for any RR or RRS that has not come through the official importers & distributors. You may have seen a thread on here recently about a Garda investigation into VRT fraud. I understand that Range Rovers were a prime target of the fraudsters, my understanding is that it was an elaborate fraud involving the underpayment of VRT and this may not be apparant even from a check of the log book. My advise would be to check out with the VRO any import Range Rover you might be considering.

jizzyboner

skyhighflyer wrote: »

I agree with Anan1. I was actually looking at one of these myself not so long ago and the petrol made a case for itself as I only cover about 4000 miles a year.

4.4 V8 - 15mpg:

1211 litres of fuel per year at 99.9c/l = €1209

3.0 TD6 - 23mpg

789 litres of fuel per year at 89.9 c/l = €710

Added to the extra €340 road tax on the V8 and you're talking just €840 more per year to run.


EDIT: I see you do 20k a year, well that's it then

At the time (not sure what values are like now) I could have had a 2004 V8 for between 10 and 15k less than the equivalent TD6. Meaning that it would have theoretically taken 15 years for me to see an advantage from the TD6!

a good exercise skyhigh

i will look at the figures very carefully and see if it can make sense.

can i ask you where you saw the petrols for 10 - 15k less? i was looking recently on carzone and the few petrols i did see were stuck right in the middle - maybe they're all gone by now anyway.

even what i saw in the UK weren't that cheap compared to here, even though there was a far greater choice naturally. I think in the UK you can get some good deals on petrols from what i see now and again on ebay - trouble is you'll be stung worse now for VRT than before.

oh well back to the drawing board

thanks

Dazzy

There's something special about the RR and RRS.... I was close to buying a RR last year and ended up buying a RRS. Long story but the RRS went back and bought an X5 which I'm very happy with but the head still turns when I see a RR or RRS...

RR's are in a class of their own and there is no comparison between them and a Land Crusier.

I started looking for RRS's at the end of last summer and most of them are still for sale so there are some bargains to be had. I went to the dealer I bought my X5 from three times over a space of 4 months before we did a deal.

Go for it I say... you only live once. (Take the time to make sure you get a good one and fully checked out, cant stree this enough)

jizzyboner

hi dazzy

how very true really about going for it. was there any special reason for the RRS being returned for an X5? Just curious really and do you prefer the X5 to the RRS?

Were they diesel or petrol? Most mags i read still say to hell with the diesel and go for the 4.4V8 or in the X5 to go for a 4.6 iS if you can find one.

Couldn't agree more about checking them out carefully - more computers than the starship enterprise.

thanks for that anyway and good luck with the X5, until you return to the RR fold

Dazzy wrote: »

There's something special about the RR and RRS.... I was close to buying a RR last year and ended up buying a RRS. Long story but the RRS went back and bought an X5 which I'm very happy with but the head still turns when I see a RR or RRS...

RR's are in a class of their own and there is no comparison between them and a Land Crusier.

I started looking for RRS's at the end of last summer and most of them are still for sale so there are some bargains to be had. I went to the dealer I bought my X5 from three times over a space of 4 months before we did a deal.

Go for it I say... you only live once. (Take the time to make sure you get a good one and fully checked out, cant stree this enough)

jizzyboner

Hi Limerick man

thanks for that - no big deal about the model years for recall just seemed a bit odd to me.

I understand the RRS is more a fancy discovery than a RR as such - to be honest i'm not too worried about terrain response and all the new gadgets - as far as i'm concerned the less to go wrong the better and we all know they will go wrong if not today then soon :mad: hence the need to get it all checked properly.

would i be right in guessing you are in the trade and sell RR and other 4X4s? always good to get advice from someone who knows what their doing - as opposed to the neighbourly advice i get here that i must be high as a kite to even look at anything RR

I will say i did buy a bad previous model RR - 98 2.5 DSE - broke my heart but i still want the newer one. must be better right

Limerick man wrote: »

TBH, I don't know, but I will find out for you.



The RRS is in a completely different league to the RR. The RRS is alot more compact, you'll find every alot closer together. The RR then is alot bigger, more open spaced. As you'll be going up to 05/06 in the RRS you'll be moving up in technology. The RRS will come with Terrain Response apposed to the RR in 02/03 which just allowed you to raise and lower the height. Terrain response allows you do alot more, and should be highlighted in the sig. The RRS also comes with a electric handbrake, which I don't know if it's a good or bad thing, as they seem to go alot, check if it has been replaced, if not, expect it.



She's an SE spec alright. Heated seats, auto lights on, on steering control and the leather. Although saying SE spec doesn't mean a whole pile, as even though it has all those bits, it's the entry model. (If you do come across an S, ie. no air suspension or leather and 17" wheels, just run from it. There were little of them sold anyway.) So any RRS should come with a decent standard spec. That one has high enough km's, just make sure it has a SH as I said. IIRC timing belt won't be due for another 50k on it...



I saw that yoke for 70k, I still think it's well overpriced in the current climate, although someone may hand out the money for it.

unkel

@jizzyboner - did you test drive both a diesel and a V8 petrol yet?

With your mileage the amount you spend extra on fuel in the petrol will be quite a lot, but it might just be worth it. You will be able to buy the petrol model significantly cheaper than the diesel and you will be able to negotiate on the price a lot harder. And I too am a bit cautious in how modern diesels will last doing big miles without expensive failings. At least with the BMW V8 petrol the engine is proven to last for 250k miles without any major trouble.

Dazzy

jizzyboner wrote: »

hi dazzy

how very true really about going for it. was there any special reason for the RRS being returned for an X5? Just curious really and do you prefer the X5 to the RRS?

Were they diesel or petrol? Most mags i read still say to hell with the diesel and go for the 4.4V8 or in the X5 to go for a 4.6 iS if you can find one.

Couldn't agree more about checking them out carefully - more computers than the starship enterprise.

thanks for that anyway and good luck with the X5, until you return to the RR fold

I originally went for the RRS over the RR as the RRS was the most recent car in its class (came out in 05). Also a friend of mine bought a new RR Vogue SE and it came with lots of problems (and is still giving problems) so thought the RRS was a safer buy.
The RRS I bought came with more owners on it than advertised so luckily I got my money back. I was then in the market for either an X5 or RRS but got a great deal on the X5 so went with that. Also, almost everyone will tell you that x5 is a better car.

X5 is a lot more powerful and a much better drive but it doesent have all the gadgets and toys that you get with the RRS. In the end I bought with the head and not the heart. Both Diesel, RRS 2.7 and X5 3.0.

Johnboy Mac

Dazzy wrote: »

RR's are in a class of their own and there is no comparison between them and a Land Crusier.

Your dead right there is no comparison. From first hand experience having worked for a LR dealership (never again) and Toyota GB, the Amazon (so few people have driven them it's a shame) will be on the road doing its job and the RR will be on the side of the road doing sod all.

Let's be candid the RR is lovely to drive but it's really all about 'flash' to most people and great off road abilities, whenever used. The likes of Toyota is about sound engineering quality full stop. All those Auzzies ain't wrong.

Terrontress

Johnboy Mac wrote: »

Your dead right there is no comparison. From first hand experience having worked for a LR dealership (never again) and Toyota GB, the Amazon (so few people have driven them it's a shame) will be on the road doing its job and the RR will be on the side of the road doing sod all.

Let's be candid the RR is lovely to drive but it's really all about 'flash' to most people and great off road abilities, whenever used. The likes of Toyota is about sound engineering quality full stop. All those Auzzies ain't wrong.

I heard it once put that a Range Rover is what a "property developer" would buy to drive to his sites and an Amazon is what a builder would buy.

Given the choice I'd go Range Rover as the Toyota may be more reliable but it's the same badge on the front as the one on a Yaris.

Zube

Terrontress wrote: »

Given the choice I'd go Range Rover as the Toyota may be more reliable but it's the same badge on the front as the one on a Yaris.

This is perhaps not the most prudent way to decide how to spend €140K.

Johnboy Mac

Terrontress wrote: »

I heard it once put that a Range Rover is what a "property developer" would buy to drive to his sites and an Amazon is what a builder would buy.

Given the choice I'd go Range Rover as the Toyota may be more reliable but it's the same badge on the front as the one on a Yaris.

Interesting.

First off I'd say you may be incorrect as the Amazon is RR money. As for the badge, well up to last year Ford owned LR/RR, so one could justify sticking a Ford badge on any RR till '08.

astrofool

Johnboy Mac wrote: »

Interesting.

First off I'd say you may be incorrect as the Amazon is RR money. As for the badge, well up to last year Ford owned LR/RR, so one could justify sticking a Ford badge on any RR till '08.

By that logic, you can stick a Fiat badge on a Ferrari.

Johnboy Mac

astrofool wrote: »

By that logic, you can stick a Fiat badge on a Ferrari.

True, but I never recalling agreeing with logic.

Eg. Some Toyota's are sold as Lexus, some Honda's as Acura's and vise versa depending on the market. But I think we are getting away from the original discussion.

BlackWizard

Badge snobbery defies logic

Mr.David

Back to the OPs question - is now a good time to buy a RR?

Theres never a "good" time to buy a RR, its never going to make financial sense and can only be justified as something that you really want as opposed to need i.e. a luxury. Now specifically is as good a time as any I suppose, get one in the UK, the V8 diesel is certainly the pick of the range and will be easier to sell, but as the SC petrol is so much cheaper that could be tempting......!

L-M

Mr.David wrote: »

Back to the OPs question - is now a good time to buy a RR?

Theres never a "good" time to buy a RR, its never going to make financial sense and can only be justified as something that you really want as opposed to need i.e. a luxury. Now specifically is as good a time as any I suppose, get one in the UK, the V8 diesel is certainly the pick of the range and will be easier to sell, but as the SC petrol is so much cheaper that could be tempting......!

Everyone seems to be saying the petrols are cheaper, and generally, they're not. They're generally in the same price range. It's the fact that someone is goign to go out looking for a petrol range rover, not the cheapest. It's must be true that 99% of Irish people won't do the figures and realise the value, and instead just buy a diesel. Saying that, have a petrol RR at the cheapest of the lot, won't help you sell it, unless you can find somone in the 1% bracket.

jizzyboner

Limerick man wrote: »

Everyone seems to be saying the petrols are cheaper, and generally, they're not. They're generally in the same price range. It's the fact that someone is goign to go out looking for a petrol range rover, not the cheapest. It's must be true that 99% of Irish people won't do the figures and realise the value, and instead just buy a diesel. Saying that, have a petrol RR at the cheapest of the lot, won't help you sell it, unless you can find somone in the 1% bracket.

yeah thats what i see lately - not many petrols and those that are there are somewhere in the middle of the price range at somewhere like carzone.

i guess the funny thing i always thought that here in ireland back in 02-03 the 3.0 diesel vogue was about 116k new, and the petrol V8 was about 10 - 15k more expensive :eek: i remember thinking at the time that there'd be not 1 petrol sold in ireland at those rates - obviously they did sell but i imagine very few judging by whats for sale now 2nd hand - either that or the owners just can't bear to suffer even more of a crazy loss.

for me ideally the petrol would have to be about 15k less than the same diesel. at least.

sadly V8 diesel is too new for me still if your looking for one i have seem them lately for about half price of new - a relative bargain anyway - although to be honest if i was spending 60 - 100k on a RR i would be terrified to take it off road in case it got scratched, damaged or, heaven forbid, broke down

E39MSport

garyegt wrote: »

why bother get one? ok they are cool looking jeeps but are you a black rapper that lives in america? everyone and i mean EVERYONE who i see drivin those is an absolute co*k on the road....

how much off roading you plannin doin? is it just todrive through a field or are ya climbing the cliffs of mohor?

toyota land cruiser! big mad powerful jeep virtually inderstuctable once well maintained and ya wont automatically be labelled a c*nt drivin it.

sorry just my opinion.....

Jealous are we ??

Anan1

E39MSport wrote: »

Jealous are we ??

Seriously, have you been living in a cave for the past year?

Mr.David

Not wanting to derail the OPs thread in anyway just thought I'd share the following. Had a new RR (the new 5.0l V8) last weekend and really enjoyed it. I think you really do have to drive one to understand the appeal, I never liked them until I drove them.

Anyway, it has the new split view screen in the centre console - i.e. driver can view his navigation info whilst the passenger watches tv on the same screen (but each person cannot see what the other sees). Works very well. Also has a customisable virtual display for speedometer etc which is nice. And intelligent lighting - it automatically switches between full beams and dipps and lights up road signs for you too.

Such a relaxing car to drive, I understand why people who dont go off road still buy them.