Guy gets hand chopped off, punches attacker with stump

Spastafarian

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/sword-attacker-sliced-off-victims-left-hand-1686405.html

Y'ouch.

AlmightyCushion

The article.

A MAN who had just had his hand severed with a samurai sword punched his attacker in the face with the stump, a court heard yesterday.

Charles Russell (28), of Whitechapel Road, Dublin 15 was remanded in custody pending sentence after pleading guilty to intentionally or recklessly causing Peter Rogers serious harm at The Deputy Mayor Pub, Meekstown on January 13, 2008.

His 31 previous convictions included road traffic and criminal damage offences.

Detective Garda Tony Gleeson told Dublin Circuit Criminal Court that Russell severed Mr Roger's hand at the wrist with his first swing of the sword and his hand fell to the ground.

He said that the victim did not notice that he had lost his hand, which, he said, must have been due to shock.

Mr Rogers (28) continued to struggle with Russell and at one stage punched the accused in the face with the stump of his arm.

Det Gda Gleeson said that Mr Rogers will never have full use of his left hand again.

He had suffered from depression, his relationship had since broken down, and he would never work in carpentry again, or play golf and football, which he had done before the assault.

Det Gda Gleeson said that both Russell and his co-accused had left the pub earlier that day and returned with the sword and a hammer before they both assaulted Mr Rogers.

Judge Katherine Delahunt said it was "an assault of a most serious nature" before she adjourned sentencing to later this week.

Det Gda Gleeson said that Mr Rogers had been in the pub with a number of friends that day when he heard someone shout, "there's the c**t" before he was struck from behind with a hammer. This blow came from Russell's co-accused and friend who was then wrestled away by bar staff. He has denied the charges and is due for trial later this year.

Russell then swung a samurai sword at Mr Rogers and continued to strike at him four or five times before staff dragged him away. He was restrained by the bar manager but managed to escape and fled the scene.

Det Gda Gleeson said that one customer picked up Mr Rogers' hand and placed it in ice in a black bag. The victim was taken to the Mater hospital where he underwent emergency surgery to re-attach his hand.

Russell was arrested the following March after gardai identified him from CCTV footage. He exercised his right to silence in the subsequent interview.

"He gave no convincing reason for the motivation behind the attack," Det Gda Gleeson said.

Insulting

Det Gda Gleeson agreed with defence counsel, that Russell's co-accused claimed that Mr Rogers had said something insulting to his girlfriend's mother which led to the attack.

He accepted that while Russell did not say anything in interview he consented to his blood being taken for DNA analysis and to standing in an identification parade.

Witness acknowledged that a medical report said that Mr Rogers had made some progress, although it was slow, but added that doctors had concluded that it is unlikely that the victim will ever make a full recovery.

Det Gda Gleeson agreed in re-examination that there was no evidence to support Russell's co-accused's version of events.

Russell's defence counsel said his client had developed a cocaine problem and had been taking drugs and drinking for four days prior to the assault.

He said that his friend had approached him and told him that Mr Rogers had insulted the woman but accepted that "none of this goes to excuse what happened" and said his client's reaction was not "even conceivably proportionate".

Fair play to the guy.

galwayrush

Thankfully they were able re attach the hand.

Tom Trojan

He wasn't stumped in terms of what to do?

ronnie3585

What else is he going to punch him with?

CreepingDeath

He makes the "Crazy 88" gang in Kill Bill look like a pack of pansies.


Or the the Monty Python fans out there, he shall now be know as "The Black Knight".

antodeco

You have to hand it to him...

connundrum

No need for the long arm of the law there.

Nevyn

Ah that finally got to court.
Heard about it at the time and from a friend who had to pull the footage from the security cameras, he said it was hilariously awful like somthing out of monty pythons the holy grail.

speaktofrank

Good thing someone was in the bar with a plastic bag and some ice ready to act. Please put your hands together for a big round of applause.*





*I will not give up my day job

AlmightyCushion

ronnie3585 wrote: »

What else is he going to punch him with?

The fist that wasn't cut off or maybe he'd pick up the hand that was cut off, make it into a fist and punch him with that.

passive

pun.

Keano

Mr T should have that guy in his ads.

Sharpshooter

From Article:
Det Gda Gleeson said that Mr Rogers will never have full use of his left hand again.

No wonder the guys depressed.

Serious question.
Why can't he play football again?
I know he would be a crap goalie, but couldn't he still play?
It's not like he made a living at it.

liah

Only in a place as quirky as Ireland would a guy get his hand chopped off with a fecking samurai sword and then subsequently punch someone in the face with his stump, not even realising he'd lost his hand..

Edited to add: how/why on earth was a samurai sword in a pub?

galwayrush

It wasn't exactly a punch, no hand to make a fist, more of a poke.:D

Saibh

Sharpshooter wrote: »

From Article:
Det Gda Gleeson said that Mr Rogers will never have full use of his left hand again.

No wonder the guys depressed.

Serious question.
Why can't he play football again?
I know he would be a crap goalie, but couldn't he still play?
It's not like he made a living at it.

Stumped on an answer to that question

chughes

I hope he's careful in future if playing cards. He may have to throw his hand in...

FX Meister

In the Times they said there's loads of things he can't do now, including playing golf and football. I can understand golf, but football?

dazberry

He should have milked it for all it was worth:

He had suffered from depression, his relationship had since broken down, and he would never work in watch making, or play classical guitar and origami which he had done before the assault.

D.

Sharpshooter

liah wrote: »

Edited to add: how/why on earth was a samurai sword in a pub?

They left the pub and came back later with the sword.

GlasnevinRed

The pub in question now does five finger discount:D

These are terrible:o

Terry

ronnie3585 wrote: »

What else is he going to punch him with?

A grail shaped hand.

Sharpshooter

galwayrush wrote: »

It wasn't exactly a punch, no hand to make a fist, more of a poke.:D

The regulars weren't any help,they must have been hammered.

Kinetic^

Sharpshooter wrote: »

Det Gda Gleeson said that Mr Rogers will never have full use of his left hand again.

I wonder if he still switches to leftie!

Rented Mule

Chuck Norris is a pussy !!!

Capt'n Midnight

Charles Russell (28), of Whitechapel Road, Dublin 15 was remanded in custody pending sentence after pleading guilty to intentionally or recklessly causing Peter Rogers serious harm at The Deputy Mayor Pub, Meekstown on January 13, 2008.

His 31 previous convictions included road traffic and criminal damage offences.
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Russell's defence counsel said his client had developed a cocaine problem and had been taking drugs and drinking for four days prior to the assault.

Please tell me this case is being treated as attempted murder. IIRC when your hand is chopped off you will bleed to death without prompt medical attention.

Also why are drink/drugs being mentioned during the trial , of course someone would need to go on a treatment course, but that should be part of the sentencing not the defence.

Irlbo

Did you see the pic of the severed hand in the Star,yuck!

Mr. Incognito

Well I'm stumpted.

Why weren't these muppets locked up on any of the 31 previous convictions.

Seriously, California has a three strikes and get your ass to jail law. We need something lieke that here. 31 convictions! ffs.

We should chop scumbags up like this and feed them to the homeless.

ejmaztec

The guy with the stump should also have been awristed for assault............:pac:

biko

Sharpshooter wrote: »

Why can't he play football again?
I know he would be a crap goalie, but couldn't he still play?

In football the hands are used to carry the ball. In soccer, no.
Actually in this case I'm not sure what they meant.

Russell's defence counsel said his client had developed a cocaine problem and had been taking drugs and drinking for four days prior to the assault

So being an utter scumbag is a defence now? He should be made to pay disability benefits for Rogers for life, the *****.