Bury CC9060 Car Kit

Trotter

Has anyone used this car kit before? I've been waiting for ages to get a kit and Im thinking of biting the bullet and getting this one installed.



It says it reads the texts out to you but Im wondering can this feature be switched off? It'd drive me bonkers.. texts can wait until I'm out of the car.

Also, is it easy to detach because a screen like that would surely attract scummers who look for shiney things to rob from cars?

I think I'll bring one in from somewhere in the UK and get it installed locally then.

Is it a good kit?

Sully

Used and installed on 3 cars. Can be a little annoying when it doesn't understand you but that's no biggy. The text message thing doesn't work on a lot of phones (check the compatibility list on the website) so I am not familiar with how it works. Easily removable, just clips off and clips back on.

Can get them from eBay cheap enough, can link you if you like. Expensive to install in Waterford but got all ours done at a discounted rate in Duggan Motors Waterford.

Blue_Wolf

Not to sure about that particular carkit but Bury are very good for carkits. They do the cradles for the newer nokias which charge them at the same time. Probably other makes do the equivelant but I know this make quite well.
Have to agree with you on the text though, very annoying, I'd say it would sound alot like the Nokia E and N series the way they read out the message and miss pronounce half of the words. Have you googled the carkit to find out whether you can turn off the feature or possibly read feedback on it?
I'm sure you should be able to turn that feature off though.

Personally I have the Parrot carkit and its really good, in terms of use and sound quality.

Trotter

I have an E51 and it looks like its compatible according to the data sheets on the Bury site.

I can't find anywhere on the net whether the text reader can be switched off. If I could confirm I could disable that feature, I'd buy one.

I've had a read of this CC 9060 Manual

and it says: Received text messages are shown on the display and read aloud to you. Up to 100 text messages can be stored. Both messages from the SIM card as well as from the telephone are read aloud.

There is a read message voice command though so I suspect that it only reads the message out if you tell it to. I'd assume thats the case anyway. It'd make sense.

Blue_Wolf

Cover your own ass, ask them 1st if it can be turned off, if they say yes and it doesnt than you can get refund based on miss sold. But you are right to think that if it says "command" that it shouldnt read it unless u make it!!

Sully

One of the phones we use is an E51 and it doesnt work for texts. Probably a firmware issue as from my understanding the bluetooth stack in Nokias are more up to date then what the car kit is built for.

Trotter

Sully wrote: »

One of the phones we use is an E51 and it doesnt work for texts. Probably a firmware issue as from my understanding the bluetooth stack in Nokias are more up to date then what the car kit is built for.

Ah sugar on it so.. I'll bring my phone in tomorrow and see can the local chap show me that it does or doesn't work.

Weird considering the compatibility sheet says it should be ok.

paconnors

I Have that handsfree kit it will only read texts if you ask it to. the screen does remove easily and as for installation its a simple iso interface between the radio and kit I installed mine in a rav 4 in under 10 mins and it was fully functional after I installed it. very easy to update firmware via laptop uses bluetooth

Trotter

Excellent. Just gotta make sure it'll work right with my E51 now. Thanks!

Sully

Trotter wrote: »

Ah sugar on it so.. I'll bring my phone in tomorrow and see can the local chap show me that it does or doesn't work.

Weird considering the compatibility sheet says it should be ok.

We had the discussion about this and I said id speak with Nokia and Burry as he was unsure. Burry were not very helpful but Nokia explained it was the version of bluetooth stacks being different. Ill double check the E51 tomorrow, maybe I didn't test it properly (its a phone I rarely use).

paconnors wrote: »

very easy to update firmware via laptop uses bluetooth

Many updates? Anything decent?

paconnors

Sully wrote: »

Many updates? Anything decent?

more handset support and more screen colours

Philush

http://www.adverts.ie/showproduct.php?product=101733&cat=all

not sure if its a saving on the price but said id tell ya anyway, dont worry my finders fee is on 5% hehe g'luck

Mr Woods

Have one almost a year, reading text messages doesn't work with my n95, and voice dialing can be bit annoying; but saying all that it's a good piece of kit and i'd recommend using it

Trotter

Mr Woods wrote: »

Have one almost a year, reading text messages doesn't work with my n95, and voice dialing can be bit annoying; but saying all that it's a good piece of kit and i'd recommend using it

Can you still read the text messages yourself from the screen? (When you pull in of course )

Mr Woods

TBH i don't know ; when 'messages' is selected from the menu, the words 'no messages' are displayed on screen. Hopefully someone who has used the feature successfully can help

Sully

Mr Woods wrote: »

TBH i don't know ; when 'messages' is selected from the menu, the words 'no messages' are displayed on screen. Hopefully someone who has used the feature successfully can help

That means your phone is not completable with the kit.

Trotter

Do you think that future updates of the firmware on the Bury kit (they seem pretty regular) might solve that problem?

Sully

Trotter wrote: »

Do you think that future updates of the firmware on the Bury kit (they seem pretty regular) might solve that problem?

Possibly. From speaking with Nokia, they say so. Burry didn't seem to care when I contacted them and ignored my question.

Waynecarr

What price did you negotiate for the install Sully. About to get the same guy to install this for me and I like to haggle

Sully

Waynecarr wrote: »

What price did you negotiate for the install Sully. About to get the same guy to install this for me and I like to haggle

Was getting three installed (different cars) so the negotiated rate probably wouldnt apply to someone getting it fitted in the one car.

Good guy though.

Trotter

Well I got a very good deal on one today and decided to get it installed regardless of the problem with texts.

The text function isnt working with my E51 as expected. I've updated the phone and the kit to the latest firmware and its still not working.

Has anyone managed to get an E51 working with this kit and how did you manage it?


Also, Im still getting to grips with the phone book. I'd love to be able to turn the muppets voice off when he's telling me who's calling me.

I deleted all my contacts from the sim card because it was duplicating the contacts on the Bury screen.

Its strange that say when 'Dad' rings, it says Dad GENERAL.. I don't get that at all.

Sully

The "Dad General" is because the number is in Dad -> General. That is, your phonebook entry can be "Home, Mobile, Office, General" etc. You can have several numbers for a contact and I assume the Bury (I cant recall) calls out what number you are calling for the contact. I didn't think it did this myself.

The "X is calling" thingy.. Well, I think that's the point of the kit. Might be able to fiddle with the settings and see if it can be disabled (you can get it to stop saying "Do you wish to accept or reject?" I think).

I think an email to Bury about the E51 needs to be sent, seems a bit like false advertising. Nobody ever sticks with the same firmware, phones get updated all the time and should work. I tried with the E71 but it was like talking to a wall.

Trotter

Sully wrote: »

I think an email to Bury about the E51 needs to be sent, seems a bit like false advertising. Nobody ever sticks with the same firmware, phones get updated all the time and should work. I tried with the E71 but it was like talking to a wall.

I sent an email to Bury yesterday. I know our local Bury seller is well aware of the problem and is looking to get it sorted too. I agreed to help him where I can!

Sully

Trotter wrote: »

I sent an email to Bury yesterday. I know our local Bury seller is well aware of the problem and is looking to get it sorted too. I agreed to help him where I can!

Aye I promised him id look into it. Ill get onto that now, Nokia should have rang me back ages ago.

EDIT: Closed at 9. Will email.

Trotter

No reply from Bury at all. I used the form on their website so I wonder if I'd been better off emailing direct.

Latest is the kit is working fine, but no text message support. It still says "general" after every name now which is a minor annoyance but I'll get over that Not having the ability to see the texts on the screen is frustrating.

Sully

Nokia emailed me friday apologising for delay and id get a call "soon". Still waiting :P

When I get the response from Nokia ill speak to Burry again. Maybe this time someone will actually be helpful

Trotter

Well Bury got back to me today and gave me the following instructions:

Please delete the Bluetooth connection in the CC9060 and in the Nokia E51. Then install the applet, turn off the mobile off, take the battery out, turn on the mobile phone, start at first the applet, press once the "ok" button, press the symbian key (home key) to leave the applet.
Now search for Bluetooth devices and make a new connection to the cc9060.

I tried this exactly but got nowhere with it. Maybe Sully or someone else might give it a go to see if I cocked up.

Here's my reply to Bury

I followed your instructions exactly and unfortunately I'm still
having the same problem.

When the CC9060 is switched on and paired with the E51, pressing the
message button gives the info "Messages not downloaded".
After a few minutes, it gives info "No messages".. even though there
are over 100 messages in my phone's memory.

Sully

What applet?

Seems a very "I havent a clue" answer from Burry. It reminds of me the IT support "My PC doesnt work" and the IT guy who has no idea suggest restarting the PC.

Trotter

If ya look at Bury's latest compatibility chart, there's 2 *'s after the E51 messaging functionality. They send you to the last page where it says it works with a 3rd Ed applet and they give you a link to download it. You install it via PC Suite and its supposed to work if you leave it running. I tried it and had the little blue dot beside it on the phone that indicates a running application but I still had no joy. Give it a lash Sully and see does it work for you.

Sully

Care to give me the link? :P

Mr Woods

Sully wrote: »

That means your phone is not completable with the kit.

Not according to this :

http://www.bury.com/upload/products/cc9060/compatibility/Compatibility_list_CC_9060_V174_en.pdf

Sully

Mr Woods wrote: »

Not according to this :

http://www.bury.com/upload/products/cc9060/compatibility/Compatibility_list_CC_9060_V174_en.pdf

What phone do you have and firmware?

Sully

Installed App, but it wont load once installed. Restarted phone and took out battery, still wont load.

EDIT: Okay, don't install to memory card! Installed to phone memory.. the application launches but does nothing... offers nothing? Just loads up a screen with the application name.. Anyway, I tried getting the Burry kit to get the messages but after a good delay even "downloading" them - it tells me I have no messages.

Also tried it on the E71 for the craic but there it refuses to download messages at all.

Trotter

Same as me so! Didn't give ya the link Sully sorry, I was posting from the mobile in a pub Glad its not just me being inept with technology. If Sully can't work it its broke!

Sully

I have emailed Burry there myself and also got in touch with Nokia (who despite telling me I would receive a call, I never did!). Will posts results as I get them.

The guide for this application install and use is poorly worder in areas, especially the last step.

Trotter

The address I got a reply from is hotline@bury.com

The idea must be that the applet is basically running in the background waiting for communication requests between the unit and the phone. Thats why they say not to exit from it but to hit the home button on the phone, thereby leaving the blue dot beside the applet on the phone installations menu.

Sounds great but didnt work for me either. I hope they fix the applet and then build the code into the next firmware upgrade.

Trotter

Latest reply from Bury! I admire honesty!

thank you for your answer. I have no idea. Perhaps there is a problem
between the software and our applet. I sent your eMail in our
technical department to check the problem.

Mr Woods

Sully wrote: »

What phone do you have and firmware?

N95; Version 21.0.0.016

h2s

Use this with a Sony Ericsson K660i and it works a treat, the voice commands are dead handy. Be sure to update the Phone to the lastest software for it to work.

One thing though is that the A2DP does not fully work. With the lastest update from Bury I can initiate a music playback from the CC9060 and both the Phone and the Kit screen shows the track playing, but alas no sound from the speakers.

Also the lastest bury update, 1.74, allows the Phone's ringtone to be used by the CC9060, but it doesn't play with this phone.

I have emailed Bury so we will see what they say.

Sully

Same problem on the E71 and another SE phone (cant recall the exact model). Iv made them aware but they have yet to reply.

Sully

How does one power the CC9060 to update the bluetooth?

How gay. You need a laptop in the car to update the firmware. Troublesome getting it all working!

Sully

In other news.. Nokia finally called me back. Wasn't the most interested/helpful tech guy but basically the bluetooth stack in the E51 and E71 are identical. Its possible that the bluetooth chipset may differ - its an issue with other Nokia phones and their own car kits. So if its hardware fault, it wont be addressed by firmware updates.

Back to square one: clueless. Not sure I can ask for more information as regardless we wont get any unit fixed hardware wise and I cant blame them.

As for Burry.. they have yet to reply.