Imported cigarettes

Kimia

Hey all,

This may be a stupid question, but is buying cigarettes online to be delivered to Ireland illegal?

If not, will I have to pay huge amounts of tax and if so how much?

Nody

Kimia wrote: »

Hey all,

This may be a stupid question, but is buying cigarettes online to be delivered to Ireland illegal?

No.

If not, will I have to pay huge amounts of tax and if so how much?

Yes.

Kimia

Thanks Nody.

Any idea how much tax?

Nody

Kimia wrote: »

Thanks Nody.

Any idea how much tax?

Same as here so fixed price + percentage, you're going to be hardpressed to make money of it legally if I put it that way.

byte

I was sent a bill of €80 odd euro extra for 200 cigs a few weeks ago, by Customs.

Suffice to say, I didn't pay it.

The_Joker

byte wrote: »

I was sent a bill of €80 odd euro extra for 200 cigs a few weeks ago, by Customs.

Suffice to say, I didn't pay it.

SNAP got this in the post earlier, return to sender is the order of the day me thinks.

byte

Mine was similar, but I don't think I was told the parcel originated in Israel.

Chenglin

The_Joker wrote: »

SNAP got this in the post earlier, return to sender is the order of the day me thinks.

200 cigs?how many cigs?200*10*20?

The_Joker

byte wrote: »

Mine was similar, but I don't think I was told the parcel originated in Israel.

Well they are winging their way back to Israel at the moment, I done the same as you and told em return to sender!

Chenglin wrote: »

200 cigs?how many cigs?200*10*20?

Yep 200 cigs 10 packs of 20 1 carton, or CARTOON if I paid the VAT!! tis a right mickey mouse job.

jor el

Bare in mind that the sender may charge a re-stocking fee for the returned cigs too, so you may not get back your original payment. You almost certainly won't be refunded the original payment for postage.

The_Joker

jor el wrote: »

Bare in mind that the sender may charge a re-stocking fee for the returned cigs too, so you may not get back your original payment. You almost certainly won't be refunded the original payment for postage.

I got back the full amount this morning, I filed a complaint with paypal and they retrieved the money, I just said I never got the item and had contacted the seller without a response.
Whether these guys will get their fagerettes back from customs or not is anyone’s guess.

The_Joker

byte wrote: »

Mine was similar, but I don't think I was told the parcel originated in Israel.

Did you get a refund byte?

byte

The_Joker wrote: »

Did you get a refund byte?

No, I didn't go looking for it tbh. I just took a chance, and failed. Never bothered anymore about it.

The_Joker

byte wrote: »

No, I didn't go looking for it tbh. I just took a chance, and failed. Never bothered anymore about it.

A lesson learned eh

I think it'd be cheaper to fly to spain and get a few cartons for 33 yo yo a pop, Jaysus we're being fleeced in this country for everything, I can see leinster house in flames one of these days! :mad:

Chenglin

The_Joker wrote: »

A lesson learned eh

I think it'd be cheaper to fly to spain and get a few cartons for 33 yo yo a pop, Jaysus we're being fleeced in this country for everything, I can see leinster house in flames one of these days! :mad:

why don't you pay that 80euro,get the cigs back and sell them?You still can make some money from them.

The_Joker

Chenglin wrote: »

why don't you pay that 80euro,get the cigs back and sell them?You still can make some money from them.

Well this is tha way I look at it
It cost €39.00 online for the carton of cigs add the customs fee of €81.43 that's a total of €120.43
Now if I walk into any shop in our fair land and buy 200 smokes it costs €8.40 x 10 = €84.00.

So €120.43 v €84.00, well I'm no econonic guru or anything but who would buy 200 cigs and lose €36.43?

ART6

Someone posted this on Boards a while ago (can't remember where or who) and it's apparently legal because the fags originate in the EU.
http://uk.tobaccoonline.co.uk/product.asp?subcat=SILK$CUT&sm=S

The_Joker

ART6 wrote: »

Someone posted this on Boards a while ago (can't remember where or who) and it's apparently legal because the fags originate in the EU.
http://uk.tobaccoonline.co.uk/product.asp?subcat=SILK$CUT&sm=S

That's where I ordered mine from and they came from Israel!
So much for the EU origin.

ART6

Wow! I didn't know that. I thought that site allowed you to choose where they came from. Good thing I didn't ever try them then:)

Dampsquid

The_Joker wrote: »

Well this is tha way I look at it
It cost €39.00 online for the carton of cigs add the customs fee of €81.43 that's a total of €120.43
Now if I walk into any shop in our fair land and buy 200 smokes it costs €8.40 x 10 = €84.00.

So €120.43 v €84.00, well I'm no econonic guru or anything but who would buy 200 cigs and lose €36.43?

Well if you don't get your money back, then you will have lost 39 euro anyways.

The_Joker

Dampsquid wrote: »

Well if you don't get your money back, then you will have lost 39 euro anyways.

The_Joker wrote: »

I got back the full amount this morning, I filed a complaint with paypal and they retrieved the money, I just said I never got the item and had contacted the seller without a response.
Whether these guys will get their fagerettes back from customs or not is anyone’s guess.

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netwhizkid

Wouldn't it work out cheaper to take a cheap Ryanair flight* to somewhere like Latvia, Lithuania or Poland and buy the fags and import them yourself? I was told in Germany I could import 17** cartons of 200 so 17x200 = 3,400 cigarettes divided by your average 20 a day smoker = a 170 day supply. Carry your GF or other non smoking friend on the flight and import almost a years supply legally, fly out early and fly back in the evening and it will cost you practically nothing unless you want to see whatever city you fly to.

20 a day at €8.65 = €3,157.25/a year (until next tax hike)

20 in Eastern Europe say €2.50 max = €912.50/year + say €100 travel costs and food for daytrip so €1,012.50 - €3,157.25 Irish price = €2144.75 savings from the ripoff Irish Government. It would pay a huge chunk of the mortgage or run the car for the year. However needless to say you should quit due to the health risks but if not why let the Irish gov rape you on tax? A 2 grand saving on anything is not to be sniffed at.... I sound like Eddie Hobbes:eek:

*Book well in advance and fly mid week
**Obviously this rule varies from EU state to state and even airport to airport, Cigs in Germany are not that cheap at €4/box but it is still half price compared to here.

Before anyone goes on Cigarette Tourism be sure to clarify what you are and are not allowed to carry, last thing you want is to land in Gdansk or somewhere and be told "sorry mate your only allowed 2hundred fags on".

Fighting Irish

The_Joker wrote: »

I got back the full amount this morning, I filed a complaint with paypal and they retrieved the money, I just said I never got the item and had contacted the seller without a response.
Whether these guys will get their fagerettes back from customs or not is anyone’s guess.

:rolleyes:

The_Joker

netwhizkid wrote: »

Wouldn't it work out cheaper to take a cheap Ryanair flight...........

Let me know when you're heading over there

You could always post some back to yourself too

Wcool

Does anyone know what happens if you ask family or friends in the EU to post some cartons? Of course not enough to be called a commercial business?

And you pay by international bank transfer? And you ask them to add the receipt to the mail?

Would that be allowed?

The_Joker

Wcool wrote: »

Does anyone know what happens if you ask family or friends in the EU to post some cartons? Of course not enough to be called a commercial business?

And you pay by international bank transfer? And you ask them to add the receipt to the mail?

Would that be allowed?

Once they are from inside the EU the tax will be already paid in the country or origin.
Leaving the receipt on the item just shows the costums what is in the parcel and where they came from, it would be ok if you were only doing this once in a blue moon (a carton very 21 days) is deemed as personal use, but if you get 4 cartons every couple of weeks the customs will see it as possible importation and look for an import licence, if you haven't got one then they'll start adding excise duty.

shrapnel222

Wcool wrote: »

Does anyone know what happens if you ask family or friends in the EU to post some cartons? Of course not enough to be called a commercial business?

And you pay by international bank transfer? And you ask them to add the receipt to the mail?

Would that be allowed?

it is allowed but you are still liable to pay duty on those

In order to pay the excise duty of the country where the goods were purchased (e.g. €0 for Spain), you must transport them yourself personally. It's Article 8 of Directive 92/12/EEC.

in other words, if they want to charge you like they did the OP, they can, just take off the VAT from his bill, so roughly about 65 euros extra

jor el

foster_m banned for promoting illegal activities, and racism. If you want to buy illegally imported cigarettes, then don't go boasting about it on a public forum.