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PS3 or Xbox?? Advice

  • 25-03-2009 2:06pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭


    Hi all,

    basic question, what would you choose ps3 or xbox.

    Dont think I would use the blu ray, only the games.

    What do ya think????


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,045 ✭✭✭Rev. Kitchen


    Consoles are more or less the same i would choose the one that more of your friends have as that will give you more enjoyment online.

    Yes blue ray is used a lot its brilliant anyone that doesnt agree is a butt pirate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,734 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    I only watched one Blu Ray on a 20' HD screen and even now DVDs feel grainy and dark by comparison.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    Hi all,

    basic question, what would you choose ps3 or xbox.

    Dont think I would use the blu ray, only the games.

    What do ya think????


    Some of us only use the blu-ray on the PS3 and use a 360 for games
    :D


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    for gaming only get the 360, more exclusives, cross platform games run marginally better on 360, much better online support and generally more people have 360s and the system itself is nearly half the price, however the ps3 is stilll a good machine and if playing HD movies are something thats important to you then get a ps3. Im getting a ps3 soon not for gaming but mainly for movies because it handles dvd upscaling very well and I want to watch a few movies on Blu-Ray.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,045 ✭✭✭Rev. Kitchen


    Speed racer on blue ray on a 42 " FUll HD TV and you ll never look back


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    blue ray? WTF - is that what you watch blue movies on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,734 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    PS3 has arguably better exclusives.

    There I said it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    noodler wrote: »
    PS3 has arguably better exclusives.

    There I said it.


    I will win the Lotto tonight

    there I said it*










    *(Doesn't mean it's true)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,734 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    That'd be why the word arguably is used dumbass.

    (Not really calling you a dumbass)

    Anyway: I'll name ten.

    MGS4
    KILLZONE 2
    Siren Blood Curse
    Valkrya Chronicles
    Wipeout HD
    Uncharted
    Resitance 2
    Motostorm 2
    LBP
    Ratchett and Clank

    Now you can name ten 360 exclusives if you want, which are better will be highyl debatable.

    The two year old myth that the PS3 can't or doesn't play really good games is just that-a myth.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    XBOX XBOX XBOX. its cheaper, has way more titles at sometimes half the price and the playstations online play is not a patch on xbox live. YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭Korvanica


    I have both consoles and i can safely say that i play the 360 much more than the PS3.
    I use my ps3 mainly for movies and some of the exclusive games but i usually get any cross platform game on the 360. More people i know have 360s also. So before you buy check what console is more popular in your group etc.

    Also LBP Rocks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭FreeOSCAR


    Get either and you will be happy. Both of them have their own pros and cons. Neither game has that one exclusive that you must own a console for. OP You should really elaborate further on what exact genres your into, are you more of a mp gamer or a sp gamer? How man friends do you have on the PSN/LIVE?. That question means more than all the other extra features that come with both consoles.

    I personally use my 360 more than my PS3 but thats only because I know 30 odd people on Live against the 5 or something I know on the PSN.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭tenacious-me


    Consoles are more or less the same i would choose the one that more of your friends have as that will give you more enjoyment online.

    Before this turns into an Xbox/PS3 fanboy pointless arguement, take this point and if there's any one game you have in mind that is only on one i.e MGS4 on PS3 or Fable 2 on XBOX360 take that into account too.
    Personally, I prefer the presentation and OS of the PS3, put simply, it works, unlike, IMHO, the xbox one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,473 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    I have both the PS3 and 360.
    Played on the xbox for abot 3 years then flogged it and bought a PS3.
    3 months later I'm buying a 360 again for the way better amount of games on it.
    Plus the fact that Live is miles better than PSN..I don't care that I have to pay €35 a year for it (off boards :D ) it's well worth it..
    The only time I switch on my ps3 now is for watching tv shows/movies ( miles better than the xbox for it) and the xbox is strictly for gaming.
    So if you want to buy a console for gaming..get the 360.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭paddy111199


    Thanks all!!

    This reminds me so much of the old Nintendo V Sega in the 90's, i was always a nintendo man (mario will kill sonic any day of the week)!!

    Like that I have the PS1 and PS2 and I feel like I am becoming a Judas by leaving the PS world (sad i know)!!

    But I think you summed it up, Im going for the 360. Because:

    1 Cheaper - Will buy up the north (recession times)
    2 love gaming - Sometimes found the PS a wee bit slow
    3 Like the sound of the online gaming world!!
    4 games are cheaper
    5 Watch all my movies online now (ahhhhh)

    Thanks for all your opinions!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭GothPunk


    I prefer my PS3 so far, but last weekend I bought a 360. I got the Limited Edition Resident Evil 5 Elite, which comes with a red console, 2 red controllers, a play and charge kit, Resident Evil 5 and Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD. All for €320. I think that's a really good deal outside of the bundles you might find at Christmas and you might find it cheaper than that up north.

    First thing I did was trade in Resi 5 for Fable 2, heh heh.

    My advice would be if you're set on getting a 360, get a Pro or an Elite, you'll need the hard drive as you can copy some games to the hard drive to speed up loading times. I can't believe how loud the 360 gets when you're playing a game but installing games to the hard drive helps a lot. You can download demos and games as well from Xbox Live so a hard drive is really a must have.

    You know that when the PS3 gets cheaper you'll be back to the PS world anyways :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 98 ✭✭rav1410


    Dont forget PS3 is free online, Xbox is not so the "xbox is cheaper" argument goes out the window after a while


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭GothPunk


    rav1410 wrote: »
    Dont forget PS3 is free online, Xbox is not so the "xbox is cheaper" argument goes out the window after a while
    That has been the deal breaker for me with the 360 for a long time. I won't pay to play games online. People go on about how Live is better but having now experienced both a bit I can't quite see how they're that different.

    The PS3 is going to be getting a price drop this year anyways so it'll be even harder to make the 'xbox is cheaper' argument then.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,158 ✭✭✭donmeister


    .......Also not forgotting RROD on the Xbox,the PS3 is way more reliable!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 180 ✭✭IsMiseConor


    4 games are cheaper
    5 Watch all my movies online now (ahhhhh)

    games generally are not cheaper, you will find that all new games are the same price.
    And I think you mean buy all your new movies online, because the xbox does not have an Internet browser so there is no way to get movies free.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Podge2k7


    donmeister wrote: »
    .......Also not forgotting RROD on the Xbox,the PS3 is way more reliable!

    Dont forget the ps3 has the BROD(Blue Ray Of Death):rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭GothPunk


    Podge2k7 wrote: »
    Dont forget the ps3 has the BROD(Blue Ray Of Death):rolleyes:
    The BluRay laser failure is something that affects a minority of PS3 owners, which could not be said about the 360 and the RROD. Case in point, the Xbox forum here on Boards.ie has a dedicated RROD stickied thread about the issue, where some people have had mulitple consoles RROD on them.

    As a new 360 owner though I'm hopeful that the newer versions of the 360 (Falcon/Jasper) are much more reliable so the RROD may not be as much of an issue as it was in the past.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    I loved my 360 (bar the noise) till I had a RROD then another on the brand new exchange model.

    That's why I have a ps3


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,045 ✭✭✭Rev. Kitchen


    A lot of the arguements made for the xbox are out of date the exclusives, the better games library, and the better online etc while a year ago yes they where better, But now i am struggling to think of any difference in the consoles that isnt just personal opinion bar price and even that is debatable.

    The exclusives : this comes down to do you like gears and Halo more than Killzone and MGS or unchartered.

    The games library : the xbox has more games but they are old/poor games whats the point in having loads of games available that no one would ever want to own.

    The online is the same on both consoles i cant see any difference other than you have to pay for xbox live.

    It really only comes down to 2 questions 1 what can i afford and 2 what is more popular among my friends when the PS3 had just come out most of my mates had xboxs so thats where i spent most of my time, but now after a few RROD and other friends getting PS3's thats where i spend most of my gaming time. It has very little to do with exclusives or online or old games.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 524 ✭✭✭Penis Eye


    Hi all,

    basic question, what would you choose ps3 or xbox.

    Dont think I would use the blu ray, only the games.

    What do ya think????


    depends mate! i am now a proud owner of both and i think the xbox is brilliant for cheap good games..(i bought gears of war for 3.99sterling) and the xbox literally has thousands of games! the ps3 however is still my favourite console! the blue ray... 7.1 surround support and the fact that once u have bought it u dont habe to pay any more! also if home ever gets going properly it should be good!

    good luck whichever you choose and dont forget there is plenty of support and advice in bothe the xbox and ps3 forums!

    mostly its gonna depend how many ppl u no who have eitheer console! they are the ones ur gonna play online with!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭gstar


    my 2c worth, i had this dilemma a couple of months ago and .....

    i went for ps3 because of primarily but not limited to; free online gaming, internet browser, blue ray, its quietness when runnin compared to the xbox, title releases. my friends were split 50/50 between the two. and in actual fact the ones that had both consoles have reverted back to the PS3.

    I also like the fact that any usb or bluetooth keyboard or headset is compatible with ps3, and u dont have to buy microsoft specific accessories and stuff. IMHO the ps3 is wins hands down over the "payXtraBOX". whatever you choose, happy gamin dude :)


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,683 Mod ✭✭✭✭F1ngers


    Hi all,

    basic question, what would you choose ps3 or xbox.

    Dont think I would use the blu ray, only the games.

    What do ya think????

    I think you should look at the games released for each console and based on which games you would prefer to play, will be a good indicator as to which console to buy.

    I had to play MGS4, thats why I bought the PS3(FF XIII is another factor, but thats not out til late '09 - early '10).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,734 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Thats really it though. Google the games list of both console and see what you want.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭Lab_Mouse


    donmeister wrote: »
    .......Also not forgotting RROD on the Xbox,the PS3 is way more reliable!
    It isnt its arse.I've replaced a harddrive and the blu-ray.Go onto any forum and theres is loads oif posts about the blu ray drive kicking the bucketThe RROD fault is now almost history on the newer versions of the xbox of 7 close mates that have ps3's 4 have had faulty HDD or blu ray dying a death


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,679 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Kinda a lousy forum to ask which console to go for, but I think you did the best thing, at least in the short to medium term.
    The fact is that because of the expense of making a next gen game they are likely to appear across a multitude of formats, so the 360 and PS3 get a version of Fear 2, along with the PC.
    Then they pick a format as lead format and the other consoles version is, essentially, an adaption of the lead, so we get a lowest common denominator, as the 360 is less powerful than the PS3 but with a larger installed user base, it is the lead in the majority of games, so the extra power of the PS3 is never utilised, in fact some titles, like Bioshock, suffer in comparision to the 360 edition.
    Also is the online experience and XBL far outstrips PSN by far, for a multitude of reasons.

    The PS3 will, in time, become the lead development platform and, in time, have it's full potential realised, given the lifespan Sony expect for the format, 10 odd years, I reckon the PS3 has barely begun to show what it's made of, but it could be some time before we see these titles appear, as it was with the PS and PS2.

    When Team Ico and the rest start to produce truely incredible games for the PS3 it will, hopefully for Sony, become an indespensible gaming console, as the PS2 and PSone were before it, a console you couldn't be without.

    Thus far the only standout must have titles for me were MGS4, Uncharted, GT5 Prologue and Wipeout HD, everything else has another cross platform title that trumps it, Sirens Curse isn't as good as Silent Hill 3, and certainly the PS3's current range of FPS titles are a shameful distance from being as great as the 360's selection.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,045 ✭✭✭Rev. Kitchen


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Also is the online experience and XBL far outstrips PSN by far, for a multitude of reasons.

    Any chance you would expand on that point on how it outstrips the PSN, as far as i can see there is little or no difference, both offer demo's and other content to down load, but mainly you are playing games online and there is no difference between COD4 on live and PSN. Both have all the same chat features.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭PaddyBomb


    Think he means the simplicity of xbl. Like how easy it is to set up a party and launch a game?

    Im still all for the ps3, it doesnt dissapoint me :-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭norrie rugger



    1 Cheaper - Will buy up the north (recession times)

    How much does an Xbox cost, that matches the PS?

    I mean controller that can be charged, hard drive, High Definition movie player etc.

    I look on the Xbox as a monetary death by a thousand cuts. A basic unit that you will pour money into, to increase the spec


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    They are both great systems.

    Xbox 360 does have a strong online due to microsoft's demands on developers but the psn isn't anything to laugh at. Infact i prefer the psn store due to getting psone games rather then indie titles.

    The reason i don't own a xbox360 and have a ps3 is because i had 2 RRODs on two different xboxs (this issue has been fixed with newer chipsets). After that i got a ps3. Also the ps3 was a cheap blu-ray player and did one thing different then the Xbox 360 i loved... PLAYING GAMES WITHOUT SOUNDING LIKE AN AIRPLANE'S ENGINE REVVING UP!!

    Now I am a bit of weebo when it comes to console games. I like my JRPGs and Japanese developers. The PS3 seemed like a better bet on JRPGs though the xbox had the most at start, more are starting to trickle onto ps3 due to poor sales in Japan.

    I expect the new Star Ocean game to be annouced on PS3 soon due to its sales in Japan :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,734 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Lab_Mouse wrote: »
    It isnt its arse.I've replaced a harddrive and the blu-ray.Go onto any forum and theres is loads oif posts about the blu ray drive kicking the bucketThe RROD fault is now almost history on the newer versions of the xbox of 7 close mates that have ps3's 4 have had faulty HDD or blu ray dying a death


    Of course its more reliable. Loads of posts? Well there are 21 millions PS3s out there. you know how many posts a 1% failure rate would produce?

    Now I am not calling you a liar but perhaps your extraordinary example of a sample of PS3s with a 50% failure rate (thats about 4 times the predicted failure rate of RROD, no?) was a once-off.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭johnfaul


    the xbox isnt much cheaper at all when you buy the wireless network adapter its 80 or 90 euros
    pay for the online
    keep batteries in the controller
    and theres nothing wrong with the service on the psn


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 ford mustang


    you forgot gran turismo and formula 1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 ford mustang


    xbox isnt really that cheap when you consider the built in wifi and bluray drive psp connectivity and free online play on ps3 neither of these which xbox has


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    How much does an Xbox cost, that matches the PS?

    I mean controller that can be charged, hard drive, High Definition movie player etc.

    I look on the Xbox as a monetary death by a thousand cuts. A basic unit that you will pour money into, to increase the spec

    I'm so deathly sick of this argument.

    1. Not everyone wants a controller that can be charged. I have a USB 360 controller and it does me perfectly fine. I would rather have the benefit of having saved countless amounts of money I could do well with in other aspects of my life just to tolerate a tiny bit of harmless wire rather then justify the lack of said wire for a considerable lump sum.

    2. A 20Gb hard drive costs about 20 euro 2nd hand.

    3. See point 1. I bought my 360 as a gaming console. Not to play hi-def movies. I couldn't care less what the PS3 can and can't play because it's not a factor to me and by the common opinion, it's not someone the majority of gamers care about either.

    By your logic a BMW is worth getting over a Punto because once you add in the leather seats, air con, full electrics, etc into the Punto sure it costs the same as the BMW. That's pretty much, actually what you're saying. If someone is looking to game, on a budget, in terms of actually playing games, the 360 is the far more affordable console, whatever way you look at it.

    In total I spent 170 on my Xbox 360, it's the 20GB model with one USB pad and a media remote - all I could possible want to play games and more, in High definition and to the maximum extent a game can possibly be rendered. Don't give a toss that it doesn't charge my controllers, or play blu-ray. I've 'poured' the price of a few pints into it to increase its spec to the afore mentioned spec to render and experience games to their maximum potential. Show me any sort of PS3 that appeals to the guy with only 180-200 quid in his pocket who wants to game? Or the bargain PS3 that trumps the 360 for those, like me, who don't give a toss about Blu-Ray or the masturbate-proof glossy exterior of the PS3.

    I wasn't even going to reply until I saw that post. It just gets on my tits big time. Personally I think the PS3 as a console itself is grand and I wish I had one to play Killzone 2 through. But it's too expensive, a premium defended by arguments like the above....bottom line 360 is by far the best value for purely games. And with the price of Blu-Ray these days anyway it's miles cheaper for me to actually buy a new 360 and also a brand new blu-ray drive for my gaming PC (which is right beside the tv) then it still is to buy a ps3 in any form. Every stand alone blu-ray players are really cheap these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,184 ✭✭✭Kenno90


    Listen guys there both good games consoles , i have the ps3 and i love it , never had a problem with it and it's a launch console,
    i would prob never buy an xbox , but that me and i have that opinion ,


    to the op , get the console that most of your mates have, that way you can have a laugh online which i think is better then most single players


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,734 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    I'm so deathly sick of this argument.

    1. Not everyone wants a controller that can be charged. I have a USB 360 controller and it does me perfectly fine. I would rather have the benefit of having saved countless amounts of money I could do well with in other aspects of my life just to tolerate a tiny bit of harmless wire rather then justify the lack of said wire for a considerable lump sum.

    2. A 20Gb hard drive costs about 20 euro 2nd hand.

    3. See point 1. I bought my 360 as a gaming console. Not to play hi-def movies. I couldn't care less what the PS3 can and can't play because it's not a factor to me and by the common opinion, it's not someone the majority of gamers care about either.

    By your logic a BMW is worth getting over a Punto because once you add in the leather seats, air con, full electrics, etc into the Punto sure it costs the same as the BMW. That's pretty much, actually what you're saying. If someone is looking to game, on a budget, in terms of actually playing games, the 360 is the far more affordable console, whatever way you look at it.

    In total I spent 170 on my Xbox 360, it's the 20GB model with one USB pad and a media remote - all I could possible want to play games and more, in High definition and to the maximum extent a game can possibly be rendered. Don't give a toss that it doesn't charge my controllers, or play blu-ray. I've 'poured' the price of a few pints into it to increase its spec to the afore mentioned spec to render and experience games to their maximum potential. Show me any sort of PS3 that appeals to the guy with only 180-200 quid in his pocket who wants to game? Or the bargain PS3 that trumps the 360 for those, like me, who don't give a toss about Blu-Ray or the masturbate-proof glossy exterior of the PS3.

    I wasn't even going to reply until I saw that post. It just gets on my tits big time. Personally I think the PS3 as a console itself is grand and I wish I had one to play Killzone 2 through. But it's too expensive, a premium defended by arguments like the above....bottom line 360 is by far the best value for purely games. And with the price of Blu-Ray these days anyway it's miles cheaper for me to actually buy a new 360 and also a brand new blu-ray drive for my gaming PC (which is right beside the tv) then it still is to buy a ps3 in any form. Every stand alone blu-ray players are really cheap these days.


    Heh, basically you have tried to explain away Norrie points with some awful and selective arguing and

    You buy a second hand 20gb HDD for a 360 for 20 euros? Hey why stop there? Why not get a second hand Playstation for 200e? Is 20GB really enough? Surely you'd like to save time with a few installs downloaded games etc?

    The controller issue? You say not everyone wants a controller that charges? Why the hell not? Surely its better than batteries? Surely you are in the minority with a USB controller.

    You ignored the wireless argument well, 80e apparently? Sure its probably available secondhand for 20e.

    All the video/audio formates the ps3 plays are a great benefit too. Fair enough if you don't want a Blu-Ray player (they do look good though) but you have to admit its a good deal when you throw the price of that into it.

    Finally you have ignore the Live subscription. Thats 50e a month and 200e during the life of your console if you keep it for 4 years.

    No problem prefering that 360, its a great piece of kit but if you want to counter points in another argument you really should address them all rather than be selective.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    noodler wrote: »
    Heh, basically you have tried to explain away Norrie points with some awful and selective arguing and

    You buy a second hand 20gb HDD for a 360 for 20 euros? Hey why stop there? Why not get a second hand Playstation for 200e? Is 20GB really enough? Surely you'd like to save time with a few installs downloaded games etc?

    The controller issue? You say not everyone wants a controller that charges? Why the hell not? Surely its better than batteries? Surely you are in the minority with a USB controller.

    You ignored the wireless argument well, 80e apparently? Sure its probably available secondhand for 20e.

    All the video/audio formates the ps3 plays are a great benefit too. Fair enough if you don't want a Blu-Ray player (they do look good though) but you have to admit its a good deal when you throw the price of that into it.

    Finally you have ignore the Live subscription. Thats 50e a month and 200e during the life of your console if you keep it for 4 years.

    No problem prefering that 360, its a great piece of kit but if you want to counter points in another argument you really should address them all rather than be selective.

    My whole point is that when you whittle down each console to the essentials requisite to play any game to its maximum potential, the 360 is always cheaper. Tell somebody who has 150 euro maximum about all this and they won't really care - at the end of the day they'll have 150 euro and there's no PS3, new of 2nd hand, that costs remotely near that price. Whereas 150 would get you the 20gb 360 preowned easily, with a few games and a wireless controller.

    As well as that, my point was that those extras are luxury, and not a necessity to play games. re: The controller. Yes obviously the rechargable wireless is better. But there's a price difference. Now, arguing a USB controller is a bit moot as it's not an option in the 360 line up anymore. But my point was to someone on a budget, in principle, it's fantastic to be able to sacrifice meaningless things in relation to the bigger picture (being able to play HD games) for a reduced price.

    Example: If there was a cheaper PS3 with a smaller drive, wired controller and no wifi. I guarantee sales would rise noticeably. Hell, I'd definitely consider one too! Most people know with 360s either wish 'the ps3 was cheaper so I could buy it as well', or sometimes 'The ps3 is great but I wasn't forkin out that money for a games console'. Pretty much everyone I know has a 360; but that doesn't equate to everyone I know preferring the 360. Me included. So don't think I'm defending the 360 from a fanboy perspective, I'm really not. I'm not pushed at all bout my Xbox. I only bought it for a few games that either aren't on the PC or are better on a console. If the PS3 was the same price there's loads of games on the PS3 that I want to play. Personally I felt disgusted having paid the 'legendary' Halo 3. The game I pretty much bought the 360 for. Killzone 2...now that's a game I want to play through to the end. But I can't afford a PS3.

    As for the wifi issue...I use an ethernet cable. And whenever I do play live the odd time, the price is a good one to pay for a good service, from experience PSN is tolerable but far inferior to Live. Live is paying for a good service really, and it wouldn't be remotely as successful as it is were it anything less. But yes I agree if you're an avid online gamer then it's quite expensive overall....

    Me personally, I play SP games and download stuff via Ethernet because My 360's near a point. So again even if you lump me in with the group of say, gamers who only play Single Player, a lot of those features are not necessary at all - and you'll find a large group of people who don't play online as well.

    If you've got a lump of cash to spend then yes. The PS3 is a fine console. But if you're on a budget or are money conscious, the PS3 does not exactly cater to any sort of variety of classes like the 360 has and still does.

    About the Blu-Ray, it was a good point initally price compared - but it's not so much anymore, but that's hardly surprising given it was Sonys tech in the first place. Blu-Ray players and drives are seriously cheap now, it'd effectively cost the same if not less to buy one plus a good 360.

    I was never saying the PS3 was bad, or over-priced for what it actually does. But certainly over-priced for the user conscious of or restricted in cash looking simply play games. I'd rather a 150 console that plays games rather then a 350 euro one that does a whole lot more; none of which is really remotely essential to that main function as a 'games' console. Well. Maybe in an ideal world but....not this one. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭tenacious-me


    I'm so deathly sick of this argument.

    1. Not everyone wants a controller that can be charged. I have a USB 360 controller and it does me perfectly fine. I would rather have the benefit of having saved countless amounts of money I could do well with in other aspects of my life just to tolerate a tiny bit of harmless wire rather then justify the lack of said wire for a considerable lump sum.

    2. A 20Gb hard drive costs about 20 euro 2nd hand.

    3. See point 1. I bought my 360 as a gaming console. Not to play hi-def movies. I couldn't care less what the PS3 can and can't play because it's not a factor to me and by the common opinion, it's not someone the majority of gamers care about either.

    By your logic a BMW is worth getting over a Punto because once you add in the leather seats, air con, full electrics, etc into the Punto sure it costs the same as the BMW. That's pretty much, actually what you're saying. If someone is looking to game, on a budget, in terms of actually playing games, the 360 is the far more affordable console, whatever way you look at it.

    In total I spent 170 on my Xbox 360, it's the 20GB model with one USB pad and a media remote - all I could possible want to play games and more, in High definition and to the maximum extent a game can possibly be rendered. Don't give a toss that it doesn't charge my controllers, or play blu-ray. I've 'poured' the price of a few pints into it to increase its spec to the afore mentioned spec to render and experience games to their maximum potential. Show me any sort of PS3 that appeals to the guy with only 180-200 quid in his pocket who wants to game? Or the bargain PS3 that trumps the 360 for those, like me, who don't give a toss about Blu-Ray or the masturbate-proof glossy exterior of the PS3.

    I wasn't even going to reply until I saw that post. It just gets on my tits big time. Personally I think the PS3 as a console itself is grand and I wish I had one to play Killzone 2 through. But it's too expensive, a premium defended by arguments like the above....bottom line 360 is by far the best value for purely games. And with the price of Blu-Ray these days anyway it's miles cheaper for me to actually buy a new 360 and also a brand new blu-ray drive for my gaming PC (which is right beside the tv) then it still is to buy a ps3 in any form. Every stand alone blu-ray players are really cheap these days.

    here we go.... :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,734 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Nowwhile there are more 360s in the world, there are still 21 milllion(compared to 28m) PS3s, I mean obviously some people (even if thet aren't your friend specifically) find it worth the dosh (mine was 310 up north luckily).

    Its notlike nobody buys em.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭JohnnyJohnJohns


    I have a PS3 and I love it- for me LBP and Killzone have enough replayability and online content to make me not need any filler games. Most of the PS3 exclusives are high quality well made games and are only on the PS3(Not on PC or ever will be).

    The big factor that made me buy the PS3 is the console lifecycle, new games are still coming out on the PS2 and its well supported by Sony, whereas Microsoft really kicked the original XBox to the curb I felt. I'd rather have a system that cost more to buy originally and have it last longer and a cheaper option that will be obselete in a few years. The dev's are a a point now where developing for a PS3 is pretty much as easy as for the XBox and its starting to show with more and more coming out on the PS3 that couldn't be done on the 360. The XBox to me seems to have hit its peak whereas the PS3 has lots of room to advance further.

    Its a question of wether you want a system only to play games for 2-3 years or to keep for a long time yet. If you're going north my mate got a ps3 with killzone and call of duty for about 300 quid so its not too bad of an option when you consider its out of the box functionality and long term low cost ;)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    The big factor that made me buy the PS3 is the console lifecycle, new games are still coming out on the PS2 and its well supported by Sony, whereas Microsoft really kicked the original XBox to the curb I felt. I'd rather have a system that cost more to buy originally and have it last longer and a cheaper option that will be obselete in a few years. The dev's are a a point now where developing for a PS3 is pretty much as easy as for the XBox and its starting to show with more and more coming out on the PS3 that couldn't be done on the 360. The XBox to me seems to have hit its peak whereas the PS3 has lots of room to advance further.

    Its a question of wether you want a system only to play games for 2-3 years or to keep for a long time yet. If you're going north my mate got a ps3 with killzone and call of duty for about 300 quid so its not too bad of an option when you consider its out of the box functionality and long term low cost ;)

    When the 360's successor comes out the PS3 will have a successor around the same time and the PS3 will be dead. The PS2 is only still going because of the massive install base. I very much doubt either the 360 or PS3 will reach the same install base in their lifetimes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭GothPunk


    Me personally, I play SP games and download stuff via Ethernet because My 360's near a point. So again even if you lump me in with the group of say, gamers who only play Single Player, a lot of those features are not necessary at all - and you'll find a large group of people who don't play online as well.
    I recently bought a 360 and have it set up like you so that I don't have to pay extra for the wireless adapter. I have a PS3 but there were SP games on the 360 that I wanted to play. The extras that I would have to buy for the 360 held me off for a long time, but in the end none of that really mattered as all I need it to do is play games, I have my PS3 for online/movies etc. In fairness to those making price comparisons, the OP of this thread did specify that they wanted to try some MP gaming, so I can understand people pointing out the extra expense of the 360 and LIVE when they listed that as something that was important to them.
    If you've got a lump of cash to spend then yes. The PS3 is a fine console. But if you're on a budget or are money conscious, the PS3 does not exactly cater to any sort of variety of classes like the 360 has and still does.
    This is something that I hope will change soon, hopefully this year. I know a few people who can list PS3 games they want to play, but they just can't afford or can't justify the price of a PS3. Once the price comes down a lot more people will be able to afford to play some pretty awesome games. I'm sure Killzone 2 MP will still be busy by the time you get round to playing it :D
    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    When the 360's successor comes out the PS3 will have a successor around the same time and the PS3 will be dead. The PS2 is only still going because of the massive install base. I very much doubt either the 360 or PS3 will reach the same install base in their lifetimes.
    I think it's highly likely this gen will have a longer lifespan than what we've become accustomed to, when we consider the position developers are in. They're having a hard enough time trying to make enough money on expensive HD projects without having to worry about the next generation of consoles.

    If what Blizzard say is true about them being consulted about the successor to the 360 fairly recently, that would seem to imply that the next Xbox is still in the planning stages, which would mean what, 4-5 years before we see it hit the market? Sure by then OnLive might have killed off consoles altogether or Nintendo might own us all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭Muller_magic


    Ps3 all the way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭muppetkiller


    I originally bought the PS3 to cover my gaming and blue-ray needs, but to be honest with the exception of Metal Gear there's nothing on the ps3 that stands out above the 360. (I think Kill Zone is over rated)
    I went out then and purchased a 360 elite and find the games are always much cheaper online, Better online service, Better graphics in general, better controller, and a much better interface (IMO).

    Don't get me wrong the PS3 is a great system but I only use it now as a media and Blue Ray player.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,721 ✭✭✭Otacon


    I got the PS3 almost two years ago now. I thought it was the best machine, hardware-wise, and had the most potential.

    Two years on, I do not regret that decision one bit. It has the better exclusives, is cheaper online, the media support is fantastic and the outlook for the next year looks even better.

    I got the 360 Elite just after Christmas this year. For what it is designed to deliver it is excellent. Brilliant games machine and online is intelligently made. I prefer the PS3 exclusives over the 360's, though GOW2 is an absolute triumph of a game tbh.

    Overall, I would suggest getting a PS3. The outlook, as I said, looks good for the next year, with Prototype, inFamous, God of War 3 and Uncharted 2 coming soon (to name a few).


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