VRT Mistake on BMW M3?

znv6i3h7kqf9ys

I was thinking of buying a BMW E36 M3 after viewing a nice one in the North. I went through the options on ros.ie and think I spotted a mistake.
The car I looked at is the 3.0 but it looks like the 3.2 is cheaper. Can anybody help? The 3.2 costs €1346 and the 3.0 costs €2388 to import. There is only 1g difference in the Co2 and a difference of €1042 seems alot. I've copied the forms below.
VEHICLE REGISTRATION TAX (VRT) ENQUIRY Vehicle Registration Tax (VRT) Calculation. CO2 emissions input by Revenue. DATE: 25 March 2009 TIME: 13:17 STATISTICAL CODE: 42185292 MAKE: BMW MODEL: M3 VERSION: E36 02DR / SPORTS COUPE (NON-CONVERTIBLE) / MANUAL / PETROL ONLY / CO2 EMISSIONS: 267</STRONG>
MILEAGE: 136000 MILES DATE OF FIRST REGISTRATION: JANUARY 1994 OPEN MARKET SELLING PRICE: €3686 RATE OF TAX: 36% VEHICLE REGISTRATION TAX:
(payable on enquiry date) €1326



VEHICLE REGISTRATION TAX (VRT) ENQUIRY Vehicle Registration Tax (VRT) Calculation. CO2 emissions input by Revenue. DATE: 25 March 2009 TIME: 13:21 STATISTICAL CODE: 40585292 MAKE: BMW MODEL: M3 VERSION: E36 02DR / SPORTS COUPE (NON-CONVERTIBLE) / MANUAL / PETROL ONLY / CO2 EMISSIONS: 268</STRONG>
MILEAGE: 136000 MILES DATE OF FIRST REGISTRATION: JANUARY 1994 OPEN MARKET SELLING PRICE: €6634 RATE OF TAX: 36% VEHICLE REGISTRATION TAX:
(payable on enquiry date) €2388

alias no.9

They're valuing the 3.0 as being worth more than the 3.2, it's nothing to do with emissions as they're both in the top band. I'd hazard a guess that the 3.0 is rarer and there probably hasn't been one imported for some time whereas the 3.2 is more common and imported more often so therefore there has probably been appeals about their valuation and a corresponding reduction in their valuation.

znv6i3h7kqf9ys

Maybe but that seems RediculArse to me. The only difference is the engine bore, apart from that the cars are the same. Do you know where they get their valuations for the omsp from? The OMSP hasn't changed on this type of car in over a year.

Juan Pablo

OMSPs are all over the shop, I was looking at the VRT on a 330Ci, look at the differential between a Sport and a Clubsport!

DATE: 25 March 2009 TIME: 14:17

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STATISTICAL CODE: 42885301
MAKE: BMW
MODEL: 330
VERSION: CI E46 SPORT 02DR A / SPORTS COUPE (NON-CONVERTIBLE) / AUTOMATIC / PETROL ONLY /
CO2 EMISSIONS: 230

MILEAGE: 100000 MILES
DATE OF FIRST REGISTRATION: MAY 2000

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OPEN MARKET SELLING PRICE: €7639
RATE OF TAX: 36%
VEHICLE REGISTRATION TAX:
(payable on enquiry date) €2750


VEHICLE REGISTRATION TAX (VRT) ENQUIRY
Vehicle Registration Tax (VRT) Calculation. CO2 emissions input by Revenue.
DATE: 25 March 2009 TIME: 14:34

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STATISTICAL CODE: 45285301
MAKE: BMW
MODEL: 330
VERSION: CI E46 CLUBSPORT 02DR A / SPORTS COUPE (NON-CONVERTIBLE) / AUTOMATIC / PETROL ONLY /
CO2 EMISSIONS: 230

MILEAGE: 100000 MILES
DATE OF FIRST REGISTRATION: MAY 2000

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OPEN MARKET SELLING PRICE: €22806
RATE OF TAX: 36%
VEHICLE REGISTRATION TAX:
(payable on enquiry date) €8210 !!

Best bet would be to always look before you leap I guess.

znv6i3h7kqf9ys

Yeah I see what you mean. What are Revenue at? That is RediculArse. There is probably someone in there changing the rates on the system to accommodate their Mates. I think they call it Mates Rates. I've seen E36 M3's being sold by dealers with Irish plates for less than 5500€ and yet ROS.ie gives an omsp of 6634€!!!! Wonder how to get it changed?

Juan Pablo

Jabari Curved Taffy wrote: »

Yeah I see what you mean. What are Revenue at? That is RediculArse. There is probably someone in there changing the rates on the system to accommodate their Mates. I think they call it Mates Rates. I've seen E36 M3's being sold by dealers with Irish plates for less than 5500€ and yet ROS.ie gives an omsp of 6634€!!!! Wonder how to get it changed?

I believe you would have to pay the inital quote and then seek a rebate, I'm sure someone else can clarify if this is the case. I'd also be wary of the cheaper M3's, could wind up costing you a pretty penny in the long run. TBH, 6.6k isn't the worst, I imagine that figure would have been much higher a year or so ago.

znv6i3h7kqf9ys

No it hasn't changed since June 08. Before then it would cost 1800€ to import

liam7831

Iv a nice 3.2 evo on irish plates if ur interested, i vrt ed it a few years ago myself after bringing it from uk. Cost 4800 to vrt it got it vrt ed cheap cos i owned it in the uk for a yr, its a 95 estoril blue

Juan Pablo

Jabari Curved Taffy wrote: »

No it hasn't changed since June 08. Before then it would cost 1800€ to import

If thats the case then there may be ground to appeal. This thread should explain more

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055440637&highlight=VRT+Rebate

znv6i3h7kqf9ys

liam7831 wrote: »

Iv a nice 3.2 evo on irish plates if ur interested, i vrt ed it a few years ago myself after bringing it from uk. Cost 4800 to vrt it got it vrt ed cheap cos i owned it in the uk for a yr, its a 95 estoril blue

Sorry Man, I've been looking for over a year and I want a 3.0

Gumbo

liam7831 wrote: »

Iv a nice 3.2 evo on irish plates if ur interested, i vrt ed it a few years ago myself after bringing it from uk. Cost 4800 to vrt it got it vrt ed cheap cos i owned it in the uk for a yr, its a 95 estoril blue

have you got a link to the ad?
or pics and specs etc

znv6i3h7kqf9ys

Juan Pablo wrote: »

If thats the case then there may be ground to appeal. This thread should explain more

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055440637&highlight=VRT+Rebate

Didn't find that much use. Am I missing something? What I would really like to know is who the clown is that sets up the omsp on the system and does anybody know how you could point out their obvious mistakes to him/her?

liam7831

Jabari Curved Taffy wrote: »

Sorry Man, I've been looking for over a year and I want a 3.0

Why exactly do you want a 3.0 over a 3.2 evo???

liam7831

kceire wrote: »

have you got a link to the ad?
or pics and specs etc

Its an m3 evo google it if you want to know the spec

Gumbo

liam7831 wrote: »

Why exactly do you want a 3.0 over a 3.2 evo???

the 3.2 give vanos problems if not looked after, and even if they have been looked after they need to be replaced at around the 80-100k mark iirc and the cost is 2000 euro give or take. (its a double vanos unit.)

the 3.0 M3 is cheaper motor tax per year.

the 3.0 is supposed to be a stronger engine, and that along with the single vanos unit, easier to maintain.

Gumbo

Double Post....ooops

Gumbo

liam7831 wrote: »

Its an m3 evo google it if you want to know the spec

there goes a prospective buyer out the door.......bye

we all know the spec of an M3, but what i wanted to know what the spec was of YOUR M3.
condition, pictures, interior, history etc etc etc

not anymore though.

znv6i3h7kqf9ys

kceire wrote: »

the 3.2 give vanos problems if not looked after, and even if they have been looked after they need to be replaced at around the 80-100k mark iirc and the cost is 2000 euro give or take. (its a double vanos unit.)

the 3.0 M3 is cheaper motor tax per year.

the 3.0 is supposed to be a stronger engine, and that along with the single vanos unit, easier to maintain.

Thanks. I was going to give the same answer. Also I'm looking for a 93 or 94 model as they were all hand built and will qualify for classic insurance before a 95 will.

Anan1

Have you seen this?: http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=1349676:

leon8v

AFAIK 3.0's have been dearer to VRT for quite some time, as in a few years. I remember looking at them a long time ago and it was the same. No idea why though.

Vertakill

liam7831 wrote: »

Its an m3 evo google it if you want to know the spec

Rofl.. and there for a second people thought you actually WANTED to sell the car...

znv6i3h7kqf9ys

Surprise Surprise

In the papers today "Revenue official and dealers held over alleged VRT fraud
PATRICK LOGUEA number of car dealers and a Revenue Commissioners official have been arrested as part of a Garda investigation into alleged tax fraud."