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You won't get into college

  • 23-03-2009 03:06PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭


    These are the words my own Mother uttered too me as she has just seen and heard how poorly I've done in my Mock's , she beleave that I'm just a waste and that I've wasted a whole year repeating for nothing, and that I'll amount to nothing.
    It's really gotten me down, anytime i try study i constantly procrastinate and do other thinks and hearing my mother tell me she doesn't beleave in me has just shot my confidence down to zero, I don't know what to do anymore !!! I need help, I really want to go to college and I want to prove her wrong. What do i need to do!!!


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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,361 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    Study your ass off and prove her wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,441 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    How many points would have got based of the mocks ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    jhegarty wrote: »
    How many points would have got based of the mocks ?

    200


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    .........anytime i try study i constantly procrastinate and do other thinks .....


    So put some effort in. You've admitted you're not doing the work. So how do YOU think you're going to get the college/course you want. Get the finger out and do your study. Nobody likes doing it but it has to be done.

    Tbh I got the same spiel when I was in my leaving cert year.You know how I reacted I worked and worked and worked. I also thanked my mother for telling me like it was and not treating me like a child. You should do the same. I can't think of a more appropriate gift to her for her work in raising you than to study like hell and get good results. Not to prove her wrong, but to prove to her you're an adult, and adults know there's no such things as an easy ride.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,394 ✭✭✭ManOfMystery


    These are the words my own Mother uttered too me as she has just seen and heard how poorly I've done in my Mock's , she beleave that I'm just a waste and that I've wasted a whole year repeating for nothing, and that I'll amount to nothing.
    It's really gotten me down, anytime i try study i constantly procrastinate and do other thinks and hearing my mother tell me she doesn't beleave in me has just shot my confidence down to zero, I don't know what to do anymore !!! I need help, I really want to go to college and I want to prove her wrong. What do i need to do!!!

    No harm, but she's stating the truth - and it sounds like you need to hear it. You readily admit to not doing the work required, you're not getting the points you need to get into College and your mother has rightly commented on this - so what's the problem?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 321 ✭✭dollybird09


    These are the words my own Mother uttered too me as she has just seen and heard how poorly I've done in my Mock's , she beleave that I'm just a waste and that I've wasted a whole year repeating for nothing, and that I'll amount to nothing.
    It's really gotten me down, anytime i try study i constantly procrastinate and do other thinks and hearing my mother tell me she doesn't beleave in me has just shot my confidence down to zero, I don't know what to do anymore !!! I need help, I really want to go to college and I want to prove her wrong. What do i need to do!!!

    Ok I'm final year in uni... it's going to be tough to get work even with a degree... I wouldn't like to be 18/19, coming out of school with a mediocre leaving cert looking for work - get the finger out and study, if you genuinely try studying and you still find yourself struggling - ask your teachers for extra help or get grinds... you don't want to get a job paying minimum wage and be stuck in a rut still when you're 30!

    Parents can be tough - but they do want the best for us...

    Get studying.... good luck :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 Brown.Eyed.Girl


    Some teachers do tend to mark the mocks harder than you would be marked in your leaving. They do this as a method to make you panic so you'd spend more time studying. This method doesn't work for everyone - it makes some people (especially those who already have low confidence) feel like they should just give up.

    Don't let your mocks results put you off. Just keep trying. Spend more time studying. Keep trying your best. Ignore your mother!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭cpu-dude


    200
    I got less, about 180 in my mocks and still got 345 in the real thing. Ignore your mother, everyone knows that they are harder and every one taking part is obviously under prepared (considering there is another 3-4 months revision due for the actually Leaving Cert). Her saying that isn't going to help you, my parents always said just do my best and I did - you should do the same, after all... its YOUR life. College isn't everything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Ignore your mother!


    :confused: Yes that's right ignore the one person in the world who selflessy wants the best for you...

    Your mother's not going to be sitting the exams for you. It's your life now, you can waste your time and screw up your exams if you want. But you're the one who will suffer in the long run.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,495 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    Your mother is only trying to motivate you. Not perhaps in the best way, but nonetheless the intention is not to run you down but to make you try harder. Do what Beruthiel says in the first reply and your mother will be the proudest of your congratulators when you get the real thing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 996 ✭✭✭bnagrrl


    No harm, but she's stating the truth - and it sounds like you need to hear it. You readily admit to not doing the work required, you're not getting the points you need to get into College and your mother has rightly commented on this - so what's the problem?

    +1. Your mother only wants what's best for you. You seem in need of a reality check, harsh as it may be.
    Talk to you teachers about where you need to improve and what key areas you should focus on for the exams.
    Do up a realistic study timetable and stick to it.
    It's not too late to turn this around, you can do it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭StroppySu


    Sorry to be harsh but as you said yourself you find yourself procrastinating, and this seems like another excuse for you. At least now you have someone else to blame besides yourself.

    It is not your mother's fault that your confidence is shot... it's yours. Only you can help yourself study and get the results.

    So what can you do?... Well first things first, get off the net and open a book.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You got 200 points in your mocks?

    How is that considered bad?

    Here are all the courses you can get into in Ireland(you can modify for whatever county your in) with 200 points

    http://www.qualifax.ie/?Mainsec=courses&Subsec=search_courses&CRAsort=&action=search&display=&CSH_ID=18&AdvancedKeyword=&keywords_and_titles=&all_or_any_words=&full_or_part_words=&FCT_ID=&FDM_ID=&keywords=&QUA_ID=0&CTP_ID=0&RES_ID=0&COL_ID=0&points=200&CRS_CODE=&CRA_ID=0&CRT_ID=0&ATT_ID=0&PRV_ID=0&COU_ID=0&DST_ID=0

    And you can only improve from now on. So I would say you've got a very good cahnce of getting into college with at least 200 points


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    there is only one answer to this. Study your ass off. Even wasting time on boards is you just putting your study off 'till later. Your mum is just trying to scare you into studying, right or wrong, she wants the best for you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    She's only saying it to provoke you to study harder, so that you get into college. Tough love, some might call it. Study harder, and don't worry too much about the mocks. They don't mean much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 178 ✭✭adzer86


    You got 200 points in your mocks?

    How is that considered bad?

    If OP comes out with 200 in the real thing it is bad. I wouldnt consider and average of 30% across the board good at all. Granted you loose 40% per subject when you drop to ordinary level.
    OP to be honest the Mock are harder but dont take that for granted. I done pure crap in the mocks. Cause? A week bender with 5 of my classmates in Playa de Ingles during the mid term :)
    Put a positive spin on the whole thing and use the poor results as a good kick up the arse. Its what they are there for after all. GL


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 833 ✭✭✭pisslips


    Man I think I got about 250 in the mocks(I actually failed them aswell) and ended up with 500 after ****ing up about 2 exams in the LC. Mind you I almost died in the LC weeks.
    Yeah you should never be seeing things for the first time the day before an exam, if you consider that you've had 2 years.You have to do it sometime, you might aswell do it now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭dceire


    Don't worry about it she's just trying to push you on to get a good result, in her own little way.

    I'm one of two children in my household, my sister is the high achiever & i was never expected to amount to anything much. I even bought into it to some extent and did the leaving cert applied. 5 years on and I'm a month away getting an hons BA from DCU. Cant wait to get my graduation picture up there beside my sisters :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 178 ✭✭adzer86


    Those courses may not be for the OP or whatever. You cant just pull out a load of courses and say there ye go. Also, most of them courses are in brutal colleges. Hence the points requirement for them. I take it you know that the points system works on level of course difficulty and level of demand for places. I came out with 355 and thought that wasnt too bad. Anything below 250 i reckon is a failure and if i had of come out with a score like this. I would be looking straight towards the PLC courses or else get out the and get myself a trade.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    adzer86 wrote: »
    Those courses may not be for the OP or whatever. You cant just pull out a load of courses and say there ye go. Also, most of them courses are in brutal colleges. Hence the points requirement for them. I take it you know that the points system works on level of course difficulty and level of demand for places. I came out with 355 and thought that wasnt too bad. Anything below 250 i reckon is a failure and if i had of come out with a score like this. I would be looking straight towards the PLC courses or else get out the and get myself a trade.

    That's bullsh!it how is anything under 250 a fail?? When there are still plenty of courses to choose from without doing a PLC or going for a trade.

    I'm just pointing out to the OP that she CAN get into college with at least 200 points (considering she meets the minimum grade requirements)

    And i wasn't just pulling out a load of courses and saying there ya go.
    Again i'm tyring to point out the options for college if the least he/she got was 200 points.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,980 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    How many points do you need?
    How many points do you want?


    In 6th year myself and I know the pressure that comes with it. There's 10 weeks and 2 days till the Leaving Cert starts including the two week Easter holiday, that in my opinion is enough time to up your grades and overall your points.

    I got around 250-270 points in my mocks, I'm aiming for 350 and I'll aim for that by doing my best in my exams and putting in the most amount of effort and work as I can in 10 weeks, that's all you can do aswell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 178 ✭✭adzer86


    Ok maybe i was being a bit OTT in terms of not being able to get into college after scoring 200 or so points as you have pointed out by posting the link. But at the end of the day everyone is entitled to an opinion and after getting 190 in my mocks. I took that finger of mine out of my arse and realised that with some effort you can get into the 300's. Some people are very clever but totally blank in exams and this is where the points system is flawed imo. Your so called second chance at it has to wait til the next year, which means new novels, new material, new poets etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭shellyboo


    That's bullsh!it how is anything under 250 a fail?? When there are still plenty of courses to choose from without doing a PLC or going for a trade.

    I'm just pointing out to the OP that she CAN get into college with at least 200 points (considering she meets the minimum grade requirements)

    And i wasn't just pulling out a load of courses and saying there ya go.
    Again i'm tyring to point out the options for college if the least he/she got was 200 points.

    The CAO forms are long submitted, presumably the OP has a course in mind and 200 points is not enough to get her into that course.

    Also, she's repeating, which to me would suggest that she didn't get enough points last time around. Yes, some people would be happy with 200 points and there courses you can do - but if the OP is not one of these people, then pointing out to her the courses available for 200 points isn't going to do her any good.

    I'd have been gutted if I'd got 200 in my Leaving and my parents would have kicked my arse. OP, your mother is only worried about you and trying to shock some sense into you.

    Don't be blaming her for "knocking your confidence", it sounds like you're setting up a convenient excuse for when she's proved right. Cram like crazy for the next 10 weeks, and you'll be fine. Get the best results you can, just to prove her wrong. Make yourself proud.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The CAO forms are long submitted

    You can apply untill May as far as I know, although you have to pay extra.
    Also, she's repeating, which to me would suggest that she didn't get enough points last time around. Yes, some people would be happy with 200 points and there courses you can do - but if the OP is not one of these people, then pointing out to her the courses available for 200 points isn't going to do her any good
    .

    Agree here, although I was only trying to point out that they can actually get in to college, just depends on what course they want to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,445 ✭✭✭jd83


    Hi OP,
    I done my Leaving Cert years ago, got around 200 points. Pretty much the same as you. Procrastinated, found it hard to concentrated. I ended up working for a few years after that. However I always regreted the fact that I did try harder and get a better result. I had the ability i was just lazy and didnt see the bigger picture.

    Eventually got sick of working a decided to go back to education and do a Degree. I still found it hard to study but I used to divide the work i had to do into small amounts and do them in 1 hour segments. It helped as Id work for an hour on something then take a break come back later do another hour on something else. This helped me stop losing my concentration. I also found some place where i would not be disturbed and that had no distractions and forced myself to do whatever work i had assigned myself for that period. I am now 2 Months away from completing my Degree.

    Another thing i noticed when i start to study harder was that the time flew in. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,160 ✭✭✭✭banshee_bones


    Everyone knows the mocks (results wise) are basically a joke. The idea of the mocks is more about testing your time management abilities within a situation like that.
    But perhaps you should be studying more. I know theres little time left but not so little that you can't turn it around.
    So get off the net, cut off all time wasting activities and get stuck in. Take short regular breaks so you dont burnout but just keep at it. As the saying goes, "throw enough sh1t at a wall some of it is going to stick"

    Just pull out all the stops between now and June and im sure you will kick ass. remember the LC isnt the end of the world! There is life after! Good Luck!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    If you find yourself getting distracted and procrastinating while actually trying to study then try what I did... get cheap digital watch with a repeating alarm... set it to go off every 5 minutes.
    If you're not doing the right thing when the alarm goes off... stop and go back to what you should be doing, don't get upset or angry at your mistake, just immediately put down the wrong thing and pick up the correct thing.
    If you are doing the right thing when the alarm goes off then smile to your self, take a deep breath and try to feel good about the fact you are doing the right thing... then keep studying.
    After a while you sort of become like Pavlov's dog... Study + Alarm = Happy



    If you are completely avoiding study at all... as in not even getting round to sitting down with a book every night at all then well you'll just have to start setting time aside every day to study in.
    Start today.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 99 ✭✭Snickit


    You get used to those remarks. Have been getting the same comments since 1st year. Another 2 to go no:) Iv just settled into a do nothing routine at the moment now (in TY, isn't it expected?) So I should work come September. Maybe.
    Moral of the story: Her abuse, which I assure you wasnt to motivate me, is nothing but a buzzing bee after awhile.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 Giblets1067


    I don't think telling the op that everyone knows that the mocks are harder than the real thing and to ignore his mother is good advice. Sometimes people are poorly prepared for the mocks and so do bad in them and find them "hard" and then realise that they need to study and so study harder and are better prepared for the real thing and therefore sometimes feel that it's "easier". I'm not saying this is always the case but I just think that it's a bit of a cop out to say "Ah sure it's grand, you'll do fine in the real thing because everyone knows the mocks are harder". Also op you have admitted that you procastinate - I don't think your mother meant to hurt you by the comment but I think she realises that you probably needed a bit of a kick up the a***. As another poster said just pull the finger out now. it's only March, you still have lots of time to study. I know it's hard to get down to it but just think if you put in a few hard months of study now it'll stand to you for the rest of your life. Best of luck


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