Terminator Salvation Ending Changed

kronsington

i found this article quite interesting.

http://www.totalfilm.com/news/terminator-salvation-ending-changed


i found out what the original ending was going to be, and it truly sounded dreadful. i really think this film is going to be awful. mcg is a clown, clearly there was a lot of tension on set ("you want me to go ****** trash your lights!!!"), and the movie isnt even completed yet and its just over 2 months from coming out.

thoughts?

flying _squirl

I just read the rumored ending... my god what a fail that would have been. I recently saw one of the ads and caught a glimpse, for a few frames, of a very typical 'big giant robot boss with a gun for a head' machine standing up. imo it looks like it's gonna go for the obvious 'pew pew pew' style that's been afflicting the Sci Fi genera for the past while.

The original concept of the future having been changed by their actions is cool, all the directions they could have gone with had the potential to make this movie brilliant. It opens up possibilities to ask questions and make the audience think while still having a huge entertainment value. IE. Ghost in the Shell but a little more obvious (it is American after all :P).
But to just keep it as your standard "yup, there's still the same terminator machines and then there's some other bigger machines and they all have guns n stuff but then there's other ones with bigger guns... as their heads!!! and everything goes boom but humanity is safe, the end" is just... well, depressing. Not just to fans of the originals but for people who would like to see the science fiction genera taken a little more seriously. I was hugely disappointed with Transformers with its over the top ridiculousness and, i really hope I'm wrong, but this looks like it might be going the same way.

For anyone who's interested, here's the rumored original ending, prepare to WTF:

http://www.totalfilm.com/news/mcg-reacts-to-terminator-4-ending-leak

"Alright so the main character is a cyborg named Marcus. For some background, Marcus was a criminal who was executed in 2003. He donated his body to Project Angel which was involved with SkyNet. They take his body and make a terminator out of him so he's a terminator skeleton but has living muscle/skin and a beating heart too. At the end of the movie John Connor is fighting a T800 model 101 and loses. He dies and the top resistance people come up with a plan to help the resistance keep fighting on. The resistance feels that it's important to keep the image or idea that John Connor is still alive so the resistance keeps going. So they rip off Marcus' skin and put John Connor's on the skeleton so now Marcus is John Connor."

lostexpectation

flying _squirl wrote: »

I just read the rumored ending... my god what a fail that would have been. I recently saw one of the ads and caught a glimpse, for a few frames, of a very typical 'big giant robot boss with a gun for a head' machine standing up. imo it looks like it's gonna go for the obvious 'pew pew pew' style that's been afflicting the Sci Fi genera for the past while.

The original concept of the future having been changed by their actions is cool, all the directions they could have gone with had the potential to make this movie brilliant. It opens up possibilities to ask questions and make the audience think while still having a huge entertainment value. IE. Ghost in the Shell but a little more obvious (it is American after all :P).
But to just keep it as your standard "yup, there's still the same terminator machines and then there's some other bigger machines and they all have guns n stuff but then there's other ones with bigger guns... as their heads!!! and everything goes boom but humanity is safe, the end" is just... well, depressing. Not just to fans of the originals but for people who would like to see the science fiction genera taken a little more seriously. I was hugely disappointed with Transformers with its over the top ridiculousness and, i really hope I'm wrong, but this looks like it might be going the same way.

For anyone who's interested, here's the rumored original ending, prepare to WTF:

http://www.totalfilm.com/news/mcg-reacts-to-terminator-4-ending-leak

"Alright so the main character is a cyborg named Marcus. For some background, Marcus was a criminal who was executed in 2003. He donated his body to Project Angel which was involved with SkyNet. They take his body and make a terminator out of him so he's a terminator skeleton but has living muscle/skin and a beating heart too. At the end of the movie John Connor is fighting a T800 model 101 and loses. He dies and the top resistance people come up with a plan to help the resistance keep fighting on. The resistance feels that it's important to keep the image or idea that John Connor is still alive so the resistance keeps going. So they rip off Marcus' skin and put John Connor's on the skeleton so now Marcus is John Connor."

hey that not such bad idea, the changed end is going to be a damb squib now, john connor dies, and then they all change there names to john conor...

so its in john conor, no im john conor

kronsington

i might be a bit naiive here, but i hope you're joking about that ending and have not just ruined the movie for us. it sounds ridiculous but absolutely nothing would surprise me with McG.

flying _squirl

no dont worry, McG (doesnt he sound like a band or something?!) has said that its definatly not the ending. but its thought that it was the original ending but because of the leak and the bad reaction to it that it was changed.

KerranJast

I'm actually looking forward to this. From what little I've seen it's going to be better than T3 which wouldn't be hard. There may be a lot of SFX set pieces but T1 & T2 weren't exactly filled with endless character interactions either. If it is as rumoured that Bale agreed to do the film on condition that he could have input into the character development then I'm confident enough that it'll be good.

robby^5

Well this is a bit of good news, it was one of my main gripes with this film when I heard the rumour about the ending.

My other gripe is yet to be resolved, that is whether this will be an 18's film or not, which I hope it is.

Every time I hear something about this film, the less I want to see it. It just sounds like a load of cack.

Richard Dower

McG is the Hollywood version of Uwe Boll...total muppets.

BlitzKrieg

yeah I remember the original rumour mill ending, neither liked it or believed it when I first heard it, but early trailers hinted it.

my issue would be how does the rest of the film hold up with a work around ending? Wasnt this rumoured to be the first of a new trilogy? Also how far into production did the ending change?



I'm just happy the sarah connor chronicles has dug itself out of its rut that it was in for the last month and the last 3 episodes were good.

The film has never been big on my radar (people who posted in the really long thread on the film know I am against even the idea of having a terminator film entirely set in the future.) the little bit of time travel they brought in has stopped me from outright hating on the film, but the transformer and nod bikes make me grumble alot.


Also as much as Christian Bale is loved, is he in alot of films at the moment or is it just me?

EDIT: (ahh just checked imdb, he normally only does 1 film a year sometimes 2, he has 3 this year, not alot, but more then usual)

minidazzler

I love everything to do with Terminator, The Films(even T3 was fun but not great), The TV show is quite good. But McG is fairly ****e. I don't like his movies. They are too Hollywood.

The Terminator franchise does delve into characters a fair bit, and while I know the future can change through the actions of the Present, and therefore nothing needs to mesh with the original movies or the TV Series, I think it's going to bomb because McG will just have Bale be a Hardman ass kicker, rather than the Leader John Connor is supposed to be.

Still, I will see it once or 6 time's, but I don't think I will like it as much as the other Terminator shows.

If the ending is what is in the Spoilers it will or at least should kill people's opinion of McG, if he is in the Favour of anyone. It's a crap ending if it is it.

Still, I prefer the TV show's version of the Future. It's kinda believeable. I don't think the Movie is going to have any believable elements.

And a final note, I really hate the Title, Terminator: Salvation. Just think it sound's a bit too like Alien: Requiem. Just very generic.

mysterious

Sorry guys, but can someone tell me the ending in a few words and what is wrong with it:o

BTW I agree with the above poster, anyone who is into robots should watch the series. The writers are the best thing that has hit on the block in recent years. They do everything all in proportion, storylines, charactor developments, the actors themselves are brillant.

They really do make alot of sense, and is not ski fi or generic. Which is a real plus considering it's a series. The special effects are pretty awesome too. I'm very very interested in how they are developing skynet. I hope to god the film will take alot of the elements that are going on and developing on the series.

The series, goes well into the sarah connor battles with her demons, which went on in T2 quite a bit. The development of John connor, is a real unique story, considering he is the saviour of mankind, and his experiences really do shape him and make him a real leader in his field. The current struggles, fear, running from machines and failure in relationshps. Really build John Connor to hold his own as he does in the future. i'm very impressed with the writers in that regard.

I'm also extremely and I mean blown away by the writers ability to add the robot/skynet logic and curoisty in this too. There is real ground and learning to be made, in how would robots learn and how they percieve humanity as if it were really happening. There is also an exciting thing to the future where some robots and most noticeably the liquid metals breaking away from skynet and forming their own groups. The Liquid metals are slightly smarter than the normal terminators that we see in the movie franchise.

Well thats enough for now. Hope other's can clarify the movie, I'm getting a bad feeling about it too, I just tell the story line is going to be sh!t, if hollywood is writing it, its going to be like a blocbuster transformers **** that im so sick of these days. I'm sick and tired of these superhero future movies where the bad guys are soo powerful and it's all generic and humanity is about to lose and miracoulsly win. If it means sings this tone. I'm going to be really really really dissapointed.

TERMINATOR, needs to be developed, the charactors need to be known more and the story of john connnor needs to be delved into in the movies. We all know terminators is kicking ass and wanting to destroy the world, we want T4. basically where T2 left off. but fast forward into the future.

I want to see robots breaking from skynet, i want to see some robots developing to have their own awarness and goals. I want to see robots thinking about the idea of creation and what the idea of keeping humans alive. I want how some robots react to where skynet is the computer that wants all humanity enslaved or destroyed. Where as some robots want to keep them alive. I want it teased out in the movies.

The idea of these robots taking on humanity. is like a lion having pork for dinner. There needs to be twists in this story

I'm not going to watch a remake of T3 where john connor is a wimp and all the robots are unstoppable and its almost doom then its just terminator vs human. This kind of **** is for kids.

mysterious

lostexpectation wrote: »

hey that not such bad idea, the changed end is going to be a damb squib now, john connor dies, and then they all change there names to john conor...

so its in john conor, no im john conor

OMG that is just retarded and really really pointless. Is hollywood really gone a bit disney? or am I just imagining things.

WhyTF would they do that, other people pretending to be john connors. I'm really really not interested in all these people bull****tng and pretending to be him. Good god this is just so redicoulous and pointless to the movie..

My head hurts, I cannot stand this world any longer. The one thing that I thought would be entertaining out of hollywood in the last 10 years. Every movie in the last 10 years has been nothing but sad and gay be quite honest. Everything is either touchy, romantic, a reallly bad teen american pie prenup, or a silly rehashed superhero movie.

Now we have this crap of a terminator movie, about whos pretending to be John.

:mad::mad::mad::mad:

kronsington

mysterious wrote: »

OMG that is just retarded and really really pointless. Is hollywood really gone a bit disney? or am I just imagining things.

WhyTF would they do that, other people pretending to be john connors. I'm really really not interested in all these people bull****tng and pretending to be him. Good god this is just so redicoulous and pointless to the movie..

My head hurts, I cannot stand this world any longer. The one thing that I thought would be entertaining out of hollywood in the last 10 years. Every movie in the last 10 years has been nothing but sad and gay be quite honest. Everything is either touchy, romantic, a reallly bad teen american pie prenup, or a silly rehashed superhero movie.

Now we have this crap of a terminator movie, about whos pretending to be John.

:mad::mad::mad::mad:

mysterious,


this is the leaked ending...

From AICN, and confirmed by CHUD:

"Alright so the main character is a cyborg named Marcus. For some background, Marcus was a criminal who was executed in 2003. He donated his body to Project Angel which was involved with SkyNet. They take his body and make a terminator out of him so he's a terminator skeleton but has living muscle/skin and a beating heart too. At the end of the movie John Connor is fighting a T800 model 101 and loses. He dies and the top resistance people come up with a plan to help the resistance keep fighting on. The resistance feels that it's important to keep the image or idea that John Connor is still alive so the resistance keeps going. So they rip off Marcus' skin and put John Connor's on the skeleton so now Marcus is John Connor."

flying _squirl

mysterious wrote: »

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I'm not going to watch a remake of T3 where john connor is a wimp and all the robots are unstoppable and its almost doom then its just terminator vs human. This kind of **** is for kids.

totaly agree with everything you posted. if theyre gona make a new movie there has to be a good reason appart from 'hey guys, lets see if we can milk this summore'

Roar

lostexpectation wrote: »

so its in john conor, no im john conor

I'm John Conor and so's my wife!

jackdaw

So wait is below the new ending or the original ending ?

- I hope its the original that would be just sh*t..

the links to the original ending are a reaction from McG and doesn't mention it..

"Alright so the main character is a cyborg named Marcus. For some background, Marcus was a criminal who was executed in 2003. He donated his body to Project Angel which was involved with SkyNet. They take his body and make a terminator out of him so he's a terminator skeleton but has living muscle/skin and a beating heart too. At the end of the movie John Connor is fighting a T800 model 101 and loses. He dies and the top resistance people come up with a plan to help the resistance keep fighting on. The resistance feels that it's important to keep the image or idea that John Connor is still alive so the resistance keeps going. So they rip off Marcus' skin and put John Connor's on the skeleton so now Marcus is John Connor."

KerranJast

That's the "original" ending or rather an ending that was being discussed at the script finalising stage. The actual ending will be very different I suspect especially as they want to make a couple more films with Bale.

jackdaw

hopefully...

McG directing record doesn't exactly inspire me ...

he seems to have made nothing but shít so far...

lostexpectation

so the ending of this now will be damp squib, nonending.

faceman

What an utterly pointless original ending. Clearly McG or whoever wrote it failed to understand the source material and what John Connor represents.

Overheal

faceman wrote: »

What an utterly pointless original ending. Clearly McG or whoever wrote it failed to understand the source material and what John Connor represents.

And yet, thats entirely the point. Very bittersweet. I could have lived with it.

Otacon

KerranJast wrote: »

That's the "original" ending or rather an ending that was being discussed at the script finalising stage. The actual ending will be very different I suspect especially as they want to make a couple more films with Bale.

If the 'original ending' was in place, would that not guarantee Bale in the sequels?

TBH, while the original ending wasn't exactly perfect, I think if Cameron was doing the exact same ending, we would call it good.

ziedth

Otacon wrote: »

TBH, while the original ending wasn't exactly perfect, I think if Cameron was doing the exact same ending, we would call it good.

That's a good point,

Although TBH I always wanted to see a kick ass version of John Connor cause we have never really seen anything from the character that wasn't an annoying Brat. I even tried watching that god-awful show the Sarah Connor Cronicles for this very reason but IMO he was worse the ever.

for me anyway I could live with that version provided he wasn't a cowering wimp or had some form of heroic dearth scene.