Jade Goody is dead (discussion thread)

Lockstep

Jade Goody has passed on, what are people's thoughts on her now,d oes anyone think any differently now that she's dead?

There is already a condolence thread for her, this is more for general discussion.

Snowie

Does this mean i can start a john martin disscusion thread to ?

Terry

I will point out now that over the top remarks will be deleted.
Over the top will be determined at my discretion.

thebigcheese22

I think there should be threads on more worthy topics.
People are starving in Africa, yet we're talking about a single woman dying of cancer. Go figure.

dlofnep

I didn't even know. I feel really bad for her and her children. I know she was a bit mouthy and that, but she was only a year older than myself and it's always sad to see someone so young taken away, especially with children that depend on her.

Adiboo

Feel sorry for her family. Nothing else. Cancer needs a better spokeperson.

Lockstep

thebigcheese22 wrote: »

I think there should be threads on more worthy topics.
People are starving in Africa, yet we're talking about a single woman dying of cancer. Go figure.

Nothing stopping you from starting topics on more worthy threads.

Go figure.

Horsefumbler

ok

aoibhebree

I've a feeling there'll be a lot of people posting here, claiming they couldn't care less about her and giving out about all the undue attention she's receiving ... and yet by reading and replying to the thread, they're showing their interest in her, and giving her more attention

When she was alive, before she was ill, I thought she was a bit of an eejit.

When she got sick, I felt very sorry for her - no one deserves cancer and all the crap that goes with it. I have to admit that at first I thought she was probably exaggerating the severity of her illness.

Now she's dead, I feel awful for her poor kids. I also feel awful for the families bereaved by the death of any family member - it happens everyday, Jade doesn't deserve more sympathy or respect than anyone else, but she certainly doesn't deserve less either.

amcalester

Adiboo wrote: »

Feel sorry for her family. Nothing else. Cancer needs a better spokeperson.

But surely any spokesperson is better than none?

If nothing else she has helped to highlight an issue that affects millions and for that she should be commended.

Local-womanizer

Dont think much of her tbh.That dosent mean I was dancing around the living room when she died.The whole media exploitation,on their part,not hers really annoyed me.

All the papers that where calling her a fat racist cow are now calling her a queen:mad:

On her part,who wouldent milk everything out of it for the better for her kids.

Still dont like her because she should have never been famous.

My name is URL

I didn't pass any remarks of her when she was alive. Of course people will say that she's no different than the 1,000 other people that die of cancer each day, but 1 person is a tragedy, 1,000 people is a statistic.

Phototoxin

Jade Goody ?
Why is she important ? Did she cure AIDs or something?

PK2008

She was the chav's Diana!

RIP

Lockstep

I'm fairly surprised by the media attention she's gotten. She hasn't really contributed anything to society.

I'm not happy she's dead but neither am I devestated. Many people die from cancer and Jade is not the first.

Granted more people are having smear tests done but that's a byproduct of her death rather than any targeted efforts on her part.

Local-womanizer

amcalester wrote: »

But surely any spokesperson is better than none?

If nothing else she has helped to highlight an issue that affects millions and for that she should be commended.

In fairness I think the majority of people know about cancer,its not a new illness tbh....

Latchy

thebigcheese22 wrote: »

I think there should be threads on more worthy topics.
People are starving in Africa, yet we're talking about a single woman dying of cancer. Go figure.

I did start an Africa related thread here last week but as mentioned , probably a bit to lengthy for some
or perhaps like other subjects ,the starving millions of Africa has being debated before lots of times already .

My name is URL

latchyco wrote: »

I did start an Africa related thread here last week but as mentioned , probably a bit to lengthy for some
or perhaps like other subjects ,the starving millions of Africa has being debated before lots of times already .

:pac:

Mossy Monk

I never cared for her. I still don't but it is sad to see young children lose their mother.

PK2008

latchyco wrote: »

I did start an Africa related thread here last week but as mentioned , probably a bit to lengthy for some
or perhaps like other subjects ,the starving millions of Africa has being debated before lots of times already .

Wait a minute....Jade was African?

D.Q

hmm... i think its a sad thing for anyone to die..

However, i thought the way her death was handled was quite sick, such a heavy media involvement and all.

Like I know, she was milking it for her kids and all, but there are people dying of cancer all the time, and they are not given the oppurtunity to build up nest egg for their kids through media attention.

I feel sorry for the kids being left with that twat of a husband, and her mam, who while maybe having the best intentions isnt really the full shilling.

Hopefully her passing will raise awareness of cancer, but as someone said above, that wasnt really anything to do with Jade personally, just the media limelight she was lucky enough to be in.

Tech3

My thought's are the same.

I thought her last few weeks in the limelight was her oppurtunity to show people she was this great person who was fighting cancer and to wipe away the memories of her being a racist and the nations most hated figure two years ago. It wasnt for generating money for the future of her children. She has/had plenty of money for her kids to rely on for most of their lifetime. My parents didnt have millions when they brought me up. There will be no financial strain there.

A person in my family had cancer so I know what it can be like for her family. It will be a sad time and my thought go out to them. One positive thing about the whole Jade Goody saga was that it has brought awareness to most of the population of hows dangerous cancer is and to encourage people to take regular scans.

amcalester

Local-womanizer wrote: »

In fairness I think the majority of people know about cancer,its not a new illness tbh....

True but how many people think to get themselves checked. Maybe a few more will now.

Latchy

Upward Spiral wrote: »

:pac:

Should have broken it up and used paragraphs :pac:

amcalester wrote: »

True but how many people think to get themselves checked. Maybe a few more will now.

Maybe if the law is changed more younger people will

Latchy

PK2008 wrote: »

Wait a minute....Jade was African?

You either haven't being following the thread or the response I gave to the person who mentioned Africa in his / her post :rolleyes:

tony1kenobi

I didn't want to spoil the other thread but I think the whole circus boils down to Max Clifford being a horrible manipulative cnut.

I doubt that woman had an iota of a clue that she was signing away her soul.

I hope she was comfortable when her time came and I hope the rest of her family can resist the big bucks that terrible prick will offer to piss all over whatever kind of legacy she has left.

Bless her Lord.

Borneo Fnctn

I don't give a damn about Jade Goody one way or the other. This didn't effect my day.

KeyLimePie

I don't see how anyone can say anything negative about her, yes she was famous for being famous, and there was that whole racism row which was just her being stupid really, but she's raised a load of awareness for cervical cancer

However I'm just a tad curious as to why she hasn't donated any money to charity, cause she's made well over a million pound with all the deals she's got going on, and it's not like she was poor to begin with

Terry

Local-womanizer wrote: »

Dont think much of her tbh.That dosent mean I was dancing around the living room when she died.The whole media exploitation,on their part,not hers really annoyed me.

All the papers that where calling her a fat racist cow are now calling her a queen:mad:

On her part,who wouldent milk everything out of it for the better for her kids.

Still dont like her because she should have never been famous.

I believe it was pig and not cow.
I think the sun had her done as Ms Piggy.

PK2008 wrote: »

She was the chav's Diana!

RIP

Meh. Diana was a chav herself. She was just born into money and married more of it.

ChewChew

I never disliked the girl. Until now.

I feel for her boys being left without their mammy. That can never ever be easy and I cant imagine how they will cope.

I am not sad she had died. I didn't follow any of her wedding tripe nor will I watch any of her funeral on tv either.

what I do feel sorry for is every other young man or woman who lost their battle and got no recognition.

Jade already made her money. Her boys would have been fine. She was greedy goody and thats all.

Latchy

jackpalance wrote: »

I don't give a damn about Jade Goody one way or the other. This didn't effect my day.

So why post about her at all so ? I will tell you why .Because like a lot of other posters who said similar as yourself ie ' I couldn't give a damm ' ( but I will talk about her otherwise ) she is the main topic of today and was a serious topic of the last few weeks . Tomorrow , or in a few days time , something or somebody else will become topic of the day /week .

useful_contacts

kickoutthejams wrote: »

Jade Goody has passed on, what are people's thoughts on her now,d oes anyone think any differently now that she's dead?

There is already a condolence thread for her, this is more for general discussion.

TBH she never really bothered me - but the fact is her death has saved a lot of womens lives so well done her for not hiding away

Local-womanizer

Terry wrote: »

I believe it was pig and not cow.
I think the sun had her done as Ms Piggy.

Would she care tbh.I mean pigs are short-sighted but are friendly animals wheras cows are very curious and big.

Lockstep

useful_contacts wrote: »

TBH she never really bothered me - but the fact is her death has saved a lot of womens lives so well done her for not hiding away

I think the increase in smear tests is a byproduct of her putting herself in the spotlight rather than Jade consciously trying to increase awareness.

tony1kenobi

Terry wrote: »

Meh. Diana was a chav herself. She was just born into money and married more of it.

I think Diana was fairly villified in the press before she was dead too. The whole Peoples Princess thing was after she painted that mercedes with her head wasn't it?

This young lady will be the same. It'll take the Sun a long time to remember they called her a fat pig all those years ago.......because that wouldn't sell papers.....

....and also your average Sun reader would not recall events from...say...yesterday.

Borneo Fnctn

latchyco wrote: »

So why post about her at all so

Just replying to the thread. I don't recall expressing an opinion. Don't know why I bothered actually.

Notorious

I'm not down with all the celebrity gossip and what not, but my sister told me that supposedly Jade was due to go into the doctor (possibly called for a check up) well before she was diagnosed. She said she was too busy and cancelled the appointment. If this is true, and she had gone to the doc, the cancer would've been spotted in the early stages, and she would've had to have gone under the knife for what I'm told is a routine operation.

stateofflux

it is sad when anybody dies especially as young as jade goody...and the positive from her death was the cervical cancer awareness that it triggered....

BUT...i think there is a fairly disturbing aspect to all of this...the fact that reality TV is going beyond the slightly dystopian vision highlighted in films like 'the truman show'...to a dark fascination of actually wanting to see the trials of someone just before death....Big brother creators are fairly amoral in my opinions...basing the show on the stanford prison experiment of 1971 knowing the mental effects of confinement and using it for monetary gain....
of course this change in tv broadcasting to a more invasive personal 'gonzo' approach was embraced and fuelled a hunger from the majority of the tv viewing public...and just like coronation street ..the writers had to think of more extreme shows to keep the ratings higher.....to the point where brainwashed people find it perfectly acceptable to allow film crews into their homes for people to analyse their young childrens dysfunctionality (or lack of)...which is then watched by half the planet who want more real live reality whether dark, happy or otherwise....Jade goody was part of the brainwashed posse who found this acceptable....but in reality it should'nt be......

i cant wait to see a live execution...with a close up of the eyes....watching....it probably will happen and ratings will soar....

corkie123

it makes me mad when people like ye post total crap like ye have

1, yes she was a chav but a nice one . if any of ye have young kids and find out ye were going to die would ye not try to make as much as ye could to for them before ye died ?

2. from her been diagnosed with cancer she bought it into world focus and loads of young girls have now had checks done who would not have bothered .if by doing this she has saved one person then what she done was right and for people to say otherwise is bull .

Local-womanizer

corkie123 wrote: »

it makes me mad when people like ye post total crap like ye have

1, yes she was a chav but a nice one . if any of ye have young kids and find out ye were going to die would ye not try to make as much as ye could to for them before ye died ?

2. from her been diagnosed with cancer she bought it into world focus and loads of young girls have now had checks done who would not have bothered .if by doing this she has saved one person then what she done was right and for people to say otherwise is bull .

But as pointed out,its not like cancer was an unknown illness.

I dont hate her just because of these recent events but rather the fact she is famous just because she got naked in a house and then forced herself on the public.

ShooterSF

corkie123 wrote: »

it makes me mad when people like ye post total crap like ye have

1, yes she was a chav but a nice one . if any of ye have young kids and find out ye were going to die would ye not try to make as much as ye could to for them before ye died ?

2. from her been diagnosed with cancer she bought it into world focus and loads of young girls have now had checks done who would not have bothered .if by doing this she has saved one person then what she done was right and for people to say otherwise is bull .

1. No if I had kids Id rather spend my time spending every minute with them not with my PR agent trying to squeeze every penny out of it.

2. Fair enough. If that much good comes out of it I do applaud. Then there are plenty of people who voluntarily try to raise awareness and give up their time for nothing but a cause the believe in. They should be the ones applauded here.

Snowie

What I dont't understand is why everyone makes a fuss over some one they don't know, who died, I could understand if she was a distant cousin but she's not....

With out sounding to blunt I dont really care. i relaise in some way I may of contrbuted to this thread but tbh i only contrabuted that i don't really care...

I was more saddened bye the death of james brown and john martin at least those cats had carisma and made some damm good music.

Dudess

corkie123 wrote: »

it makes me mad when people like ye post total crap like ye have

Oh it's crap because it's not the same as your opinion?

1, yes she was a chav but a nice one

Explain to me how she was "nice"?

2. from her been diagnosed with cancer she bought it into world focus and loads of young girls have now had checks done who would not have bothered .if by doing this she has saved one person then what she done was right and for people to say otherwise is bull .

It was hardly her intention to raise awareness of cervical cancer - it's laughable the way she gets credited with this.

I agree though, she may as well have used the publicity to make money for her sons.

Captain-America

I hated everything the woman was about, and how she lived her life. But I'd definitely stop short of wishing death on her, I don't think anyone would deserve that.

Saying that, I've made my fair share of jokes.

Latchy

Notorious wrote: »

I'm not down with all the celebrity gossip and what not, but my sister told me that supposedly Jade was due to go into the doctor (possibly called for a check up) well before she was diagnosed. She said she was too busy and cancelled the appointment. If this is true, and she had gone to the doc, the cancer would've been spotted in the early stages, and she would've had to have gone under the knife for what I'm told is a routine operation.

I thought it was that Jade had gone and asked for a smear test / scan when she was younger ,that would have shown up her cancer but was told she was to young .This is why she wanted to make the public aware and bring the age group for such test to under 25s, to prevent late Diagnosis on other young women which in her case, if detected earlier ,might have prevented the cancer spreading .

Sharpshooter

ShooterSF wrote: »

1. No if I had kids Id rather spend my time spending every minute with them not with my PR agent trying to squeeze every penny out of it.

I think you would feel differently if you did have kids, tbh.

You would probably spend a lot of time thinking of things that might happen to them or situations they might be in where they need money.

You would most definitely not want to die knowing there was not enough money to look after them until they were old enough to earn for themselves.

IMO, Jade did what any parent would, who loved their kids, if they got the chance.

If the chance is there, take it.
She did,and if she hadn't then that would have been stupid, don't you think?

PK2008

I think Jade has always represented something more than she was- she was the personification of the "famous for nothing" the "successful for all the wrong reasons" reality show celebrity era that alot of working people resent

but then she was just a human, she made some mistakes- which she paid for and she took some risks that paid off.

She never was someone who should have been celebrated but she never did anything to be demonised in death for either

ShooterSF

Sharpshooter wrote: »

I think you would feel differently if you did have kids, tbh.

You would probably spend a lot of time thinking of things that might happen to them or situations they might be in where they need money.

You would most definitely not want to die knowing there was not enough money to look after them until they were old enough to earn for themselves.

IMO, Jade did what any parent would, who loved their kids, if they got the chance.

If the chance is there, take it.
She did,and if she hadn't then that would have been stupid, don't you think?

Maybe I would, I can only say how I feel ATM. However let's not pretend like her kids would have been like something out of Oliver. The woman was already a Millionaire, their Grandmother is still alive too and their father (as far as I know). Given those circumstances I think I'd rather a few normal private weeks/months with my kids.

Fighting Irish

Terry wrote: »

I will point out now that over the top remarks will be deleted.
Over the top will be determined at my discretion.

"now ye're talkin'"

unless a mod doesn't like what you say

Dudess

/shrug

Boards.ie doesn't want to be seen to be a platform for cruelty and vulgarity at the expense of a young mother who has just died of cancer.

Venom

How badly did Jade need money for her kid's tho? I was under the impression she had made quite a bit with the aftermath of her original BB stint, the various big pay outs for interviews, keep fit vids and perfume. I know the racist stuff on CBB ****ed up some **** for her but not to the point she was completly skint?