St Pattys Day, WTF ?

Gran Hermano

I noticed some years back that the Irish Americans and Canadians
often refer to today as 'St Pattys day'. Initially I put it down to
mispronunciation or just an ill informed individual.

Today I've noticed again on several websites and fora the septic tanks
mislabelling Paddy's Day as Patty's Day. Google throws back over
8 million results for St Pattys day, that's a lot of ill informed foreigners
and what's worse is many of the people calling it Patty claim Irish roots.

How would they like it if we celebrated Martin Luther Ring day or
Yanksgiving?

Ruu_Old

News just in. Flag Day->Shag Day. \o/

ShaneU

Spanksgiving would be fun.

Fighting Irish

Gran Hermano wrote: »

I noticed some years back that the Irish Americans and Canadians
often refer to today as 'St Pattys day'. Initially I put it down to
mispronunciation or just an ill informed individual.

Today I've noticed again on several websites and fora the septic tanks
mislabelling Paddy's Day as Patty's Day. Google throws back over
8 million results for St Pattys day, that's a lot of ill informed foreigners
and what's worse is many of the people calling it Patty claim Irish roots.

How would they like it if we celebrated Martin Luther Ring day or
Yanksgiving?

They could call it St Fattys Day for all i care, St Patricks Day means nothing

Mr.Lizard

Well the word is paTrick after all. Quite an understandible mistake really.

K4t

Feminists. :rolleyes:

Gran Hermano wrote: »

How would they like it if we celebrated Martin Luther Ring day or
Yanksgiving?

Can you not see the similarities with Michael Ring?

Fajitas!

But Pat = Paddy, non?

It's really annoying. I can handle Paddy's Day, or just Paddy's... But Pattie's (Or, I'm sorry, Patti's as some folk on Facebook are calling it) is just infuriating. Hell, I'd accept Xmas considering it's shorter to write than Christmas but Pattie's? F*ck that.

Also; http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=St.+Patty&word2=St.+Patrick


\o/

Gran Hermano

Don't get me started on how many Irish Americans are going out to drink Harp!

TheStrandRoads

In Omaha at the moment. The other day this middle aged woman overheard me & my mate's accents. She asked if we were Irish...

"Yeah we're Irish.."

Woman: "Oh really?? So am I!.....I'm half-Irish"

"Oh right. Very good. Your mam or dad?"

Woman: "Oh my Dad. He was full Irish."

"Cool. Where abouts was he born?"

Woman: "..........Illinois"

We didn't even bother tackling her on the issue :rolleyes:

r3nu4l

Fighting Irish wrote: »

St Patricks Day means nothing

It means a day off for most people in Ireland tbh.

Kernel32

Fajitas! wrote: »

But Pat = Paddy, non?

It's really annoying. I can handle Paddy's Day, or just Paddy's... But Pattie's (Or, I'm sorry, Patti's as some folk on Facebook are calling it) is just infuriating. Hell, I'd accept Xmas considering it's shorter to write than Christmas but Pattie's? F*ck that.

Also; http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=St.+Patty&word2=St.+Patrick


\o/

Whats really annoying is that st patricks day parades started in the USA and then the irish went and ripped it off and started having them in Ireland. A bunch of begrudging copy cats.

neil_hosey

Fighting Irish wrote: »

St Patricks Day means nothing

Means nothing to you....

expected more with that alias!

Love Paddys Day.

TheStrandRoads

TheStrandRoads wrote: »

In Omaha at the moment. The other day this middle aged woman overheard me & my mate's accents. She asked if we were Irish...

"Yeah we're Irish.."

Woman: "Oh really?? So am I!.....I'm half-Irish"

"Oh right. Very good. Your mam or dad?"

Woman: "Oh my Dad. He was full Irish."

"Cool. Where abouts was he born?"

Woman: "..........Illinois"

We didn't even bother tackling her on the issue :rolleyes:

you don't have to be born in Ireland to be irish :rolleyes:

tallaghtoutlaws

Deleted User wrote: »

you don't have to be born in Ireland to be irish :rolleyes:

Why roll your eyes. Your place of birth generally defines your nationality. My cousin was born and raised in Germany for the first 5 years of his life and own his passport he is down as German. Even though he holds an Irish Passport and all his family are Irish. But technically he is German first and only Irish due to the fact his immediate family are and he lives here now.

I rolled my eyes in reply to the roll of the eyes in my quoted post.

If our cousin moves back to Germany, has kids and then when his kids are older they say "oh my dad is irish" Oh really? where was he born? Berlin.....are they wrong - or as implied by TheStrandRoads - and idiot???? em, no, he has an irish passport, he's entitled to say he's irish - it's in our constitution.

tallaghtoutlaws

Deleted User wrote: »

I rolled my eyes in reply to the roll of the eyes in my quoted post.

If our cousin moves back to Germany, has kids and then when his kids are older they say "oh my dad is irish" Oh really? where was he born? Berlin.....are they wrong - or as implied by TheStrandRoads - and idiot???? em, no, he has an irish passport, he's entitled to say he's irish - it's in our constitution.

Yes he is but his kids wouldn't be unless they actually moved here or obtained an Irish passport. Yes they can say their dad is Irish if they want but it doesnt make them Irish. But thestrandsroad only got as far as knowing the guy was born in illinois. he/she didnt actually learn anymore from the conversation so who to know the dude born in illinois classes himself irish due to his grandparents??????

What the "thestrandsroads" is referring to is quite common in the US. I live there 6 months of the year and hear it alot. You will find in alot of Americans you would have to go back to great great grandparents to find any link to here. They class themselves by nationality based on heritage and not actual fact. My family have swedish blood in them going back to our great great great grandparents but by your reasoning does that make me swedish? No it doesnt.

Now it doesnt bother me at all where people think they are from really I actually get a kick out of it having a laugh and enjoying folk explain their heritage to me but I can see where it can get annoying for some.

tallaghtoutlaws

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

Yes he is but his kids wouldn't be unless they actually moved here or obtained an Irish passport. Yes they can say their dad is Irish if they want but it doesnt make them Irish.

TheStrandRoads did say that the woman he spoke to said it was her dad that was irish - exactly the situation I just put to you and as above - you agree with!
Everyone knows how Americans all say their Irish even if they're not etc However, TheStandRoads is assuming the guy in question doesn't have an Irish Passport - you shouldn't assume someone is a dumbass unless you have proof!!! That's all my point was - nothing more - nothing less.

I still stand by my original statement, you don't have to be born in Ireland to be Irish.

vibrant

I think they say Patty as Paddy is seen as kind of ...racist?

sink

Gran Hermano wrote: »

Don't get me started on how many Irish Americans are going out to drink Harp!

What's wrong with drinking Harp? It's Irish, isn't it?

ciano1

Wanksgiving??:pac:

I'd celebrate that !!

mike65

It'll all be forgotten tomorrow.

mike65

mike65 wrote: »

It'll all be forgotten tomorrow.

what will?

Archeron

Strangely, St Selma's day gets a lot less attention.


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TheStrandRoads

Deleted User wrote: »

.....are they wrong - or as implied by TheStrandRoads - and idiot???? em, no

Jeez, explain if I must..

He was born and grew up in America but we thought it funny that she still said he was full Irish.

She also mentioned that their Irish surname was "Chapman".

And that they either dropped the "O" or "Mac" at some point in history.

But I'm sure you'll do a little research and find fault with that too :rolleyes:

why would I bother doing research on a woman who's dad was from illinois?

Once again, you don't have to be born in Ireland to be Irish - hmmm, this isn't that difficult to comprehend is it? and as I've already said I know there are plenty of people who claim to be irish when they're not but 1. So what, isn't it nice that so many people want to claim to be one of us and 2. You did say you just met this lady so how was I to know she had told you her surname and that it happened to have an o in front of it back in the day and that you had obviously asked her if her father was an irish citizen?!?

Jeez people - we're supposed to be friends today!

Kernel32

vibrant wrote: »

I think they say Patty as Paddy is seen as kind of ...racist?

No. In the states I have found that Patty is the common contraction of Patrick which is male while Paddy is the contraction for Patrica. So basically many Americans see Paddy as a female name and not male and therefore use Patty. As far as I can tell the use of Paddy or Mick etc in the form of a slur to Irish people is relatively unknown to most Americans.

Kernel32

Gran Hermano wrote: »

Don't get me started on how many Irish Americans are going out to drink Harp!

I spent the first 20 or so years of my life in Ireland drank a lot of Harp along with my brothers and many others down the pub. Is Harp now looked down on by "true" Irish and only drank by Irish Americans? Maybe it's because they are too busy drinking Bulmers which was piss water cheap cider when I was growing up but is now cool again.