Women attraction to players

kingofthecastle

i read somewhere recently that the only 10% of men are what we call players(get laid on a regular basis with multiple partners) and the rest of us just have to make do. For women apparently its a much more even spread. So basically that translates to the majority of women being attracted to a minority of men.

therefore as a bloke and not in the lucky 10%, it annoys me a great deal when i hear women saying that they cant find a nice decent guy. It seems to me that they really dont want a good decent lad, but rather a smooth talking bad boy who'll treat them like sh1t and possibly sleep with their best friend given the opportunity.

So ladies the next time ur in a nite club and you decide that you'd like to meet a nice guy, he's not the one with the boyband haircut and the white ralph lauren shirt makin shapes on the dance floor, he's over by the wall sippin a pint with his mates and will be be only too happy to get to know you if you give him half a chance.

thats my rant for the day!

tommyboy2222

You should leave the wall and say hello to a girl you fancy.

I know its a crazy suggestion but try to make conversation and not get too drunk.

(The Game is bull**** by the way)

copacetic

kingofthecastle wrote: »

i he's not the one with the boyband haircut and the white ralph lauren shirt makin shapes on the dance floor

making shapes? is he doing big fish, little fish, carboard box? I dropped that years ago, but if it'll bring the women back I'll start it up again so.

kingofthecastle

your reply so misses the point tommyboy i wonder if you actually read my thread at all

nowhere in my thread did i mention gettin drunk, or that i didnt approach women

the point is that most women seem to be attracted to a minority of men, we all have a mate who seems to score more than the rest of us put together, the so called ladies man, who although he treats women like crap, seems to have no trouble pullin every night he goes out

tommyboy2222

Nah you're hanging with your mates while the cocky Westlife reject is making an effort to chat to some girls

Girls are attracted to blokes with a bit of self confidence

p.s he's better looking than the rest of ye !

kingofthecastle

p.s he's better looking than the rest of ye ![/quote]

oh rite! its all clear now

WellyJ

kingofthecastle wrote: »

your reply so misses the point tommyboy i wonder if you actually read my thread at all

nowhere in my thread did i mention gettin drunk, or that i didnt approach women

the point is that most women seem to be attracted to a minority of men, we all have a mate who seems to score more than the rest of us put together, the so called ladies man, who although he treats women like crap, seems to have no trouble pullin every night he goes out

Don't blame the women, it's called natural selection, they don't really have a say in the matter, they will post on their Bebo and Facebook etc. how all they want is a nice guy and list their Turn Offs as "Too cocky" "Assholes" when in reality this is the kind of man they are naturally attracted to. Again, it's not their fault, it all goes back to tribal times when sticking to the "asshole" of the tribe would keep her alive....

As women get older they break out of this mould, or the majority do.

As stupid as the "Treat em mean, keep em keen" saying is, it is pretty hard to argue with its effectiveness.

I have openly discussed this whole thing with previous girlfriends and all of them actually agreed with this, some do not even realise it until you discuss it with them.

Gyalist

WellyJ wrote: »

Don't blame the women, it's called natural selection, they don't really have a say in the matter, they will post on their Bebo and Facebook etc. how all they want is a nice guy and list their Turn Offs as "Too cocky" "Assholes" when in reality this is the kind of man they are naturally attracted to. Again, it's not their fault, it all goes back to tribal times when sticking to the "asshole" of the tribe would keep her alive....

As women get older they break out of this mould, or the majority do.

Essentially correct except for the last sentence. They don't break out of the mould so much as settle for a lower value male. This explains why so many men are unwittingly raising another man's child as their own.

AnnieB82

Hi there, how about if you see a nice girl, you go and chat to her? I chatted up my fiancee myself. He was too shy to talk to girls and would've been the one sipping a beer at the wall. I personally would be totally put off by a boyband lookalike giving it loads on the dancefloor. (I hate dancing anyway and have 2 left feet!) I know it's plain generalisation, but I would think he was a real attention seeker/ arrogant etc. Of course that doesn't go for all guys dancing, but the kind of guy you described. Anyway, the point is, don't be standing at the wall waiting to be approached, when you could start a nice conversation yourself...

Wibbs

kingofthecastle wrote: »

i read somewhere recently that the only 10% of men are what we call players(get laid on a regular basis with multiple partners) and the rest of us just have to make do. For women apparently its a much more even spread. So basically that translates to the majority of women being attracted to a minority of men.

lies, damned lies and statistics. I would agree that there's something to it, but... Plus the majority of men are attracted to quite a small minority of women too. They may not be able to get them, but they're attracted. IME women have a wider range of what they go for.

therefore as a bloke and not in the lucky 10%, it annoys me a great deal when i hear women saying that they cant find a nice decent guy. It seems to me that they really dont want a good decent lad, but rather a smooth talking bad boy who'll treat them like sh1t and possibly sleep with their best friend given the opportunity.

OK well look at the "bad boy" traits in comparison to the "decent lad". Bad boys good character traits would seem to be; smooth talking = at ease with women and makes his feelings known. Treat them like poo can look like confidence again, though both bad boys and decent guys come at this from the wrong angles. Bad boys look down on women, good guys look up to them. Try looking at them as equals. The "possibly sleep with their best friend", may just mean they're attractive to women in general and look like they have options. Which would you choose in a woman's shoes? A guy who comes up to her and chats and is socially confident, appears at ease with himself and has other women interested, or the wallflower who she never gets to meet?

So my take would be, stop standing in the corner sipping your pint, as how can a woman ever find out you're a decent guy? They're not psychic. If all she has coming up to he are "players", what choice is she left with?

LegacyUser

WellyJ wrote: »

Don't blame the women, it's called natural selection, they don't really have a say in the matter, they will post on their Bebo and Facebook etc. how all they want is a nice guy and list their Turn Offs as "Too cocky" "Assholes" when in reality this is the kind of man they are naturally attracted to. Again, it's not their fault, it all goes back to tribal times when sticking to the "asshole" of the tribe would keep her alive....

As women get older they break out of this mould, or the majority do.

As stupid as the "Treat em mean, keep em keen" saying is, it is pretty hard to argue with its effectiveness.

I have openly discussed this whole thing with previous girlfriends and all of them actually agreed with this, some do not even realise it until you discuss it with them.

That's about right. Some wuld sugegst reading "The Game"....

LegacyUser

Gyalist wrote: »

Essentially correct except for the last sentence. They don't break out of the mould so much as settle for a lower value male. This explains why so many men are unwittingly raising another man's child as their own.

Yep. Check this out: go forward to 4:09:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fQyz_aecNc

"and the number one reason your woman is mad at you, the numer one reason she's pissed off at you... because you ain't her first choice"

"good lord this man is ugly and stupid, I had a good man and I blew it"

You got two choices in this world be an alpha male or be a loser.

How to not fail at life:

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5103/1195719211326nj1.gif

I dunno if this works but it rings true.

dudara

Having read all of this thread, I am failing to see how it is a PI. If it is not a PI for the OP, then I will move it to After Hours or another more general forum.

dudara

Dragan

kingofthecastle wrote: »

the point is that most women seem to be attracted to a minority of men, we all have a mate who seems to score more than the rest of us put together, the so called ladies man, who although he treats women like crap, seems to have no trouble pullin every night he goes out

Sorry, all i took from your OP was bitterness that you can't get laid.

I fail to see the PI to be honest.

suspectpackage

Gyalist wrote: »

Essentially correct except for the last sentence. They don't break out of the mould so much as settle for a lower value male. This explains why so many men are unwittingly raising another man's child as their own.

Exactly. It also explains why 99% of your sperm has the sole purpose of FIGHTING with other sperm. They are unable to fertilise the egg. Only 1% of your sperm is actualy able to fertilise a womans egg. (Read a book called sperm wars by robin baker). Why has evolution made you that way I wonder??

But its NOT a womans "fault" per say. She is just designed that way. And please don't come on and argue with this ladies because obviously you are not consciously going to admit that you are designed to seek sperm from multiple males in order for the best sperm to win out and give you the best child. Your subconscious mind and your body are involved in this process, not your logical mind. You should also read Sperm Wars for educational purposes.

greenteaicedtea

So my take would be, stop standing in the corner sipping your pint, as how can a woman ever find out you're a decent guy? They're not psychic. If all she has coming up to he are "players", what choice is she left with?

Only immature women fall for the "player" guys, if they do it doesn't last long. More mature women are tired of men with no substance after they date a few.

This "player" and "game" stuff is just toxic, ignore it all and just be yourself, but a more talkative version

Wibbs

Closed as seems closer to debate at this stage. If the OP wants to start another thread with his personal issue with this, then please do.