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The Lions Captain?

  • 16-03-2009 8:29pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭


    Not sure there was a thread on this already so...

    Who is your choice to captain the Lions in SA?

    My choice would be POC but it will probably go to BOD. He has some serious unfinished business as a lions captain and leading a test series win against the 'Boks would be a deserved achievement for Ireland's best ever 13.

    I'm pretty sure it will be an Irish captain, regardless of the rsult of the Grand Slam Showdown in Cardiff.

    Lions Captain. 100 votes

    Paul O' Connell
    0%
    Brian O' Driscoll
    34%
    2040Peter BDSmaddssuppaflymoby2101spoonandymanOtaconmikemacAuversyoucancallmealMackaathtrasnachupacabrasalad dodgerBrianb8802toomevarastephen_nKingdom 34 votes
    Ryan Jones
    62%
    Mr.ApplepieBounty HunterCrashSamurai[Deleted User]ShevYjankozt9vdujny3srfSundyhardCopyfunky penguinSeamie[Jackass]Davei141anonymous_joeconf101GijoesubfreqIompairIrjudge1 62 votes
    Mike Blair
    0%
    Steve Borthwick (LOL)
    1%
    Stev_o 1 vote
    Ronan O' Gara
    3%
    telemachusKevIRLmuletide 3 votes


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭waraf


    Ryan Jones
    If we win the Grand Slam it will have to be Drico. It's only fair on the lad considering his recent form, the success of the Irish team in this campaign and the fact that he only spent a couple of minutes on the pitch as captain in New Zealand on the last Lions tour. Drico all the way for me....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Noffles


    Wow.. a poster named Thomond picks POC as Lions skipper.... There are a number of options, you've named them too... I'll not comment on who I think it'll be, as I'm not really sure to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Brian O' Driscoll
    Noffles wrote: »
    Wow.. a poster named Thomond picks POC as Lions skipper.... There are a number of options, you've named them too... I'll not comment on who I think it'll be, as I'm not really sure to be honest.

    Don't hold it against me. :D:D:D

    I'd be thrilled either way, BOD or POC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Noffles


    Don't hold it against me. :D:D:D

    I'd be thrilled either way, BOD or POC.

    I'll not be surprised if it's either of them really, I still think Jones has an outside chance but he'd have to have an almighty game on Saturday!

    We'll not have to wait too long though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    Ryan Jones
    If POC was Ireland captain, it'd be POC for the Lions, and rightly so. But to be honest, giving the captaincy to someone who isn't the captain for their country would look, well... a bit silly TBH.
    Has to be BOD, although Ryan Jones is a possibility. It'd be the wrong choice, but it's a possibility.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Brian O' Driscoll
    davyjose wrote: »
    If POC was Ireland captain, it'd be POC for the Lions, and rightly so. But to be honest, giving the captaincy to someone who isn't the captain for their country would look, well... a bit silly TBH.

    MJ wasn't captain of England at the time but Geech picked him as captain for 1997 and well, the rest is history. :):)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    Brian O' Driscoll
    I voted for POC on the basis that I think he will get it as McGeechan has expressed a preference for his captain to be in the forwards something I agree with. Although it would be hard for him not to pick BOD if we do the slam. Either way it will be great for Ireland and it's great that the two front runners are both Irish!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,691 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    Ronan O' Gara
    whoops. Misclick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,968 ✭✭✭✭phog


    davyjose wrote: »
    If POC was Ireland captain, it'd be POC for the Lions, and rightly so. But to be honest, giving the captaincy to someone who isn't the captain for their country would look, well... a bit silly TBH.
    Has to be BOD, although Ryan Jones is a possibility. It'd be the wrong choice, but it's a possibility.

    Following that logic should the captain of a country be the captain in his club/province?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭Fishtits


    Regardless of the result next week, I think O Driscoll should be Lions Capt.

    I have criticised him before but his recent performances have been superlative, plus he has the ability to deal with the dreaded Press...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,193 ✭✭✭[Jackass]


    Ryan Jones
    There is not a single player, not one, that has come within one million miles of the leadership Brian O'Driscoll has shown in this six nations. Not one.

    There should only be 2 poll options. "Brian O'Driscoll" or "My Opinion is Worthless".

    Absolutely outstanding captain. Up until this weekend had scored crucial tries in all games so far in 6 nations, it's a shame he didn't score against Scotland as I've a feeling he'll score a winner v Wales and would be nice to have dricco score in every game in a grand slam run.

    Against England, O'Gara, absolute nightmare of a game, nearly lost it for us, only for O'Driscoll to step into the 10 channel and slot the points for us when O'Gara was missing and also take it upon himself to touch down the 5 pointer when the forwards were bashing around the line.

    Absolutely outstanding captain. O'Connell (only other option imo) is a great leader. O'Driscoll is a true captain. No one else comes within a million miles in my opinion. The guy is just another level above anyone else on so many fronts. It makes me laugh at the "he's lost it" comments when he played a handful of games in a year an a half - none of them fit - look at him now for Leinster and Ireland, a better all round player and as lethal as ever, scoring tries for fun, with superb leadership and best defender in world rugby in any position other than Richie McCaw and forces as much turn over as the rest of the Irish backrow combined - sublime - he's better now than he has been at any stage in his career - can not lavish enough praise on the guy and I look forward to the greatest ever Irish captain lifting the trophy of one of our greatest ever achievements and going on to hopefully captain the lions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭NickNolte


    Brian O' Driscoll
    Paul O'Connell for me. The Lions Tour is a showcase for Northern Hemisphere rugby. While I worship the ground BOD walks on and think he's an outstanding captain, he's not everyone's cup of tea. Personally, I just feel that O'Connell has a much softer and more likeable presence. Considering how much time he's going to spend in front of a camera beforehand, I'd prefer to see POC represent the Lions this year. As a captain on the pitch, he's no less or more talismanic than BOD but he's just more, well, 'likeable' IMO.

    PS: Before the retards start bitching, I'm a Leinster fan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,591 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    Brian O' Driscoll
    O Driscoll has always stated his captaincy is reflected by his actions on the pitch and not his words in the dressing room. If this is the criteria for selection of Lions captain then it can only be BOD or POC as captain , as both ave been the standout performers in this years six nations. As someone else eluded to though McGeechan has stated his preference for a forward as captain so the logical pick and one that I would go for personally would be Paul O Connell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭Serenity Now!


    Ryan Jones
    It'll be O'Driscoll.
    First name on the teamsheet (despite the scepticisms of a certain poster in these forums).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,410 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    Ryan Jones
    davyjose wrote: »
    If POC was Ireland captain, it'd be POC for the Lions, and rightly so. But to be honest, giving the captaincy to someone who isn't the captain for their country would look, well... a bit silly TBH.
    Has to be BOD, although Ryan Jones is a possibility. It'd be the wrong choice, but it's a possibility.
    Jones will be lucky to start with the way ferris is playing... not to mind being captain


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭woodseb


    whoever made the poll forgot to put LOL beside O'Gara too - even more unlikely than Borthwick

    grand slam or not, i think BOD will get it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Brian O' Driscoll
    woodseb wrote: »
    whoever made the poll forgot to put LOL beside O'Gara too - even more unlikely than Borthwick

    OH NO......

    I can see where this is going... :rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,721 ✭✭✭Otacon


    Brian O' Driscoll
    As long as its an Irish player, I'll be happy.

    IMO it's between POC and BOD. As a Munster fan, of course, I would like to see POC get it. TBH with the way they have both been playing, is a co-captaincy out of the question, or even allowed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭woodseb


    OH NO......

    I can see where this is going... :rolleyes::rolleyes:

    i'm a munster fan too - but you have to admit he has no business to be on that poll


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Brian O' Driscoll
    woodseb wrote: »
    i'm a munster fan too - but you have to admit he has no business to be on that poll

    I suppose.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    Brian O' Driscoll
    I'm also a believer that a forward as captain is better for the team. And so there's only one option, POC.

    O Connell has played at least as big a part as O Driscoll when it comes to motivation and communication and I think he's more of what the Lions captaincy is all about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭Effluo


    Ryan Jones
    This time last year and ryan jones would have been a given!

    Now however especially after some of the 6 nations performances BOD has to be the captain.
    My best player of the irish team and my top player of the whole 6 nations.

    No matter how amazingly athletic and clever heaslip has been BOD wins it on the pure passion and will to win which he's showed us over the last few weeks!
    He makes me very proud to be Irish


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 670 ✭✭✭Stealdo


    Brian O' Driscoll
    Otacon wrote: »
    As long as its an Irish player, I'll be happy.

    IMO it's between POC and BOD. As a Munster fan, of course, I would like to see POC get it. TBH with the way they have both been playing, is a co-captaincy out of the question, or even allowed?


    Whichever of them gets it, and I reckon it's between those two the other will have a very big part to play in the captaincy. Particularly if it's O'Driscoll who's captain, O'Connell will be the one doing the talking up front as with Ireland. Several others will be involved too.
    I reckon BOD and POC (Ewan Murray aside) are the only 'nailed on' starters for the Lions and it's hard to suggest you can pick anyone else. The only way this will change is if we get stonked in Cardiff which is unlikely.

    McGeechan picked Johnson in '97 who wasn't England captain at the time, so his form points to O'Connell. Might take a little of the spotlight off BOD which I think would be no bad thing for him.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,933 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    Ryan Jones
    according to the Beeb who on the matter ill take more notice of as they arent Irish or from Munster or Leinster therefore actually objective and they are 100% sure it will be an Irish Lions captain and that BOD or POC are the only real choices. since that is the case id assume and cant see why the Lions captaincy would not be the exact same as the Irish situation with BOD captain and POC pack leader. BOD great infront of the cameras representing the team and POC in the huddle screaming orders/motivation. It would be nice if both had the GS under their belts going into this and maybe one with anothe HC :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭bamboozle


    Ryan Jones
    POC's decision making is appaling. there is no doubting the fact that he never leaves the pitch without giving 100% and all the players on the opposition know they've been in a match when he's played, however his decision making is quite poor, all this 6 nations he's made the same error in every game, sub hooker comes on, 1st lineout call POC calls to the tail...we lose it or it goes crooked, also there have been several occasions where he has popped up in the outhalf channel received the ball, put his head down and charged, perhaps he's under instructions to do so but the odd pass out wide would be nice.
    he needs to learn more at provincial level before he'll be ready to inherit the Irish captaincy...which he will do in time.


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