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I want a referendum

  • 13-03-2009 10:03pm
    #1
    tritium
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,666 ✭✭✭


    In the middle of this old recession, with people taking pay cuts and job losses left right and centre, it turns out that the constitution protects the President and members of the judiciary from having their pay affected

    WTF!!

    I say lets change it!!

    We have a local election coming up soon enough and the Lisbon rerun might not make it onto the ballot paper, so lets push for a worthwhile referendum! Lets change things so that these worthy servants of the public can share in the nations pain.

    Shouldn't even cost too much if we run it with the other ballots and since all the parties should be willing to support a motion to give us more economic wiggle room they could just tag a one liner onto their existing election literature.

    Brilliant I think


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  • #2
    Kiera
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭Kiera


    I want! Its all me me me with you!


  • #3
    Black Swan
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,537 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    I have a bad call sponge brick to throw at the refs during sporting events. Want to borrow it? Might be more fun than a ref(erendum) to start throwing things at them?


  • #4
    mikemac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    What, a serious post in After Hours!

    This a republic
    Ever hear of separation of powers between the judiciary, executive (President) and the legislature (Dail)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_powers

    OP, you can't have the threat of a pay-cut hanging over a judge who manages a tribunal or a President that doesn't immediately sign some bill into law.


    Small fry indeed.
    The country going bankrupt and you're looking at a few hundred people.


  • #5
    Darragh29
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭Darragh29


    tritium wrote: »
    It turns out that the constitution protects the President and members of the judiciary from having their pay affected

    That only matters when there is money there to pay them! It's looking like that won't be the case for much longer at the rate we are burning the money.


  • #6
    Fizman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,605 ✭✭✭Fizman


    I want to ride coke and snort hookers tonight.

    Its not gonna happen. Don't see me complainin do ya?


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  • #7
    Professey Chin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    Fizman wrote: »
    I want to ride coke and snort hookers tonight.

    Its not gonna happen. Don't see me complainin do ya?
    But.....youre always complaining bout having no hookers made of coke and coke made of hookers :confused:


  • #8
    Fizman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,605 ✭✭✭Fizman


    Ultimate Chin wrote: »
    But.....youre always complaining bout having no hookers made of coke and coke made of hookers :confused:

    Now you're just being silly.

    The former is distinctly possible, but the latter is just plain unrealistic. :pac:


  • #9
    tritium
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,666 ✭✭✭tritium


    mikemac wrote: »
    What, a serious post in After Hours!

    This a republic
    Ever hear of separation of powers between the judiciary, executive (President) and the legislature (Dail)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_powers

    OP, you can't have the threat of a pay-cut hanging over a judge who manages a tribunal or a President that doesn't immediately sign some bill into law.


    Small fry indeed.
    The country going bankrupt and you're looking at a few hundred people.

    Umm, Isn't that quite a few more than the number of bankers we all seem to want to beat down on?

    Its not about separation of powers, and would be easy to word in a referendum, perhaps by linking all pay levels for these groups to equivalent salaries, in much the way that TD's salaries are tied to the PO grade in the civil servce. The point is to give this group the "opportunity" (ahem!) to share in the work of saving the nation


    And to another poster, yes it is all about me me me
    :P


  • #10
    My name is Mud
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 647 ✭✭✭My name is Mud


    tritium wrote: »
    In the middle of this old recession, with people taking pay cuts and job losses left right and centre, it turns out that the constitution protects the President and members of the judiciary from having their pay affected

    I belive the president has taken a 10% pay cut back in October

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2008/1016/1224108277037.html
    Thursday, October 16, 2008

    President and Central Bank chief take pay cut

    PAY CUTS: PRESIDENT MARY McAleese and the Governor of the Central Bank of Ireland, John Hurley, will take a 10 per cent pay cut following Minister for Finance Brian Lenihan's appeal to senior public servants to consider surrendering 10 per cent of their salary during his Budget speech.

    Best of luck with that referendum.


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