€250 charge to remove coffin handles before cremations (5 Minute Job with a cordless)

Run_to_da_hills

Dublin's biggest cemetery firm has defended charging bereaved families €250 to remove handles from coffins before cremations.

Glasnevin Cemeteries Group has denied imposing a "hidden charge", explaining that the fee covers the cost of being environmentally friendly.

Coffin Handles are just for show and are NEVER used to lift the casket, they are made of "gold" plated pewter or plastic.

In future bring your own cordless and remove them yourself and save the €250.:)

http://www.herald.ie/national-news/city-news/relatives-charged-euro250-for-removal-of-coffin-handles-1671955.html

biko

Everyone, I'll do it for a mere €150

seanybiker

bloody hell. Thats some price

do they re-use the handles on another coffin??

Run_to_da_hills

Deleted User wrote: »

do they re-use the handles on another coffin??

Im sure they do, that would be the "recycling" part of it. Someone should mark coffin handles and wreaths and see if they end up back in the undertakers showroom. :eek:

You would not get too much change out of €50 from a wreath.

junkyard

Most coffin handles I use are plastic, not only that but the type of coffin used for cremations doesn't have handles they're creamation friendly so to speak.

Nodin

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Dublin's biggest cemetery firm has defended charging bereaved families €250 to remove handles from coffins before cremations.

Glasnevin Cemeteries Group has denied imposing a "hidden charge", explaining that the fee covers the cost of being environmentally friendly.

Coffin Handles are just for show and are NEVER used to lift the casket, they are made of "gold" plated pewter or plastic.

In future bring your own cordless and remove them yourself and save the €250.:)

http://www.herald.ie/national-news/city-news/relatives-charged-euro250-for-removal-of-coffin-handles-1671955.html

Its not the labour you're being charged for, its the insurance and shot gun rental, in case of zombie attack.

Run_to_da_hills

junkyard wrote: »

Most coffin handles I use are plastic, not only that but the type of coffin used for cremations doesn't have handles they're creamation friendly so to speak.

Some do, but are VERY light and not worth removing for the amount of plastic that goes up in smoke.

dr.bollocko

MOVED TO DUBLIN CITY FORUM.






.... just kidding

galwayrush

Good grief, i am so undervalued as a Joiner.:eek:

Abi

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Dublin's biggest cemetery firm has defended charging bereaved families €250 to remove handles from coffins before cremations.

Glasnevin Cemeteries Group has denied imposing a "hidden charge", explaining that the fee covers the cost of being environmentally friendly.

Coffin Handles are just for show and are NEVER used to lift the casket, they are made of "gold" plated pewter or plastic.

In future bring your own cordless and remove them yourself and save the €250.:)

http://www.herald.ie/national-news/city-news/relatives-charged-euro250-for-removal-of-coffin-handles-1671955.html

Whadda facking libertaay!

Mr. Presentable

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Dublin's biggest cemetery firm has defended charging bereaved families €250 to remove handles from coffins before cremations.

Glasnevin Cemeteries Group has denied imposing a "hidden charge", explaining that the fee covers the cost of being environmentally friendly.

Coffin Handles are just for show and are NEVER used to lift the casket, they are made of "gold" plated pewter or plastic.

In future bring your own cordless and remove them yourself and save the €250.:)

http://www.herald.ie/national-news/city-news/relatives-charged-euro250-for-removal-of-coffin-handles-1671955.html

I don't know why you have an issue with this.

You are worse than the Herald, misleading etc. If you read the article you will find the cemetary gets an outside contractor to do this work. Should they do it for free? Should they not make a profit? Are they not a business? Really, RtDH, you need to spend less time stirring sh1t and more time polishing your tinfoil.

lostexpectation

anyone see pauline fowlers wicker casket?

http://www.marieclaire.co.uk/news/312229/pics-wendy-richard-funeral.html

dvpower

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Dublin's biggest cemetery firm has defended charging bereaved families €250 to remove handles from coffins before cremations.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Coffin Handles are just for show and are NEVER used to lift the casket, they are made of "gold" plated pewter or plastic.

If the body is going to be cremated, why not just ask them to leave off the handles in the first place!

Alternatively, why not put painted wooden handles on coffins destined for cremation?

Or, just don't burn perfectly good coffins (use some sort of cheap wooden insert).

The whole undertaker business is a bit of a scam:(

nowye'retalkin

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Dublin's biggest cemetery firm has defended charging bereaved families €250 to remove handles from coffins before cremations.

Glasnevin Cemeteries Group has denied imposing a "hidden charge", explaining that the fee covers the cost of being environmentally friendly.

Coffin Handles are just for show and are NEVER used to lift the casket, they are made of "gold" plated pewter or plastic.

In future bring your own cordless and remove them yourself and save the €250.:)

http://www.herald.ie/national-news/city-news/relatives-charged-euro250-for-removal-of-coffin-handles-1671955.html

Who really give a flying Hoot! I like Hoot!

dvpower

lostexpectation wrote: »

anyone see pauline fowlers wicker casket?

Is Pauline dead? Did Mark and Michelle turn up for the funeral? (Sorry for going off topic; I might start a thread)

994

I'll do cremations for a tenner. Nine litres of petrol, one match. Done.

Tar.Aldarion

994 wrote: »

I'll do cremations for a tenner. Nine litres of petrol, one match. Done.

I wish to pursue a contract with you where I get 9 litres of petrol and a match for a tenner when I wish.

ShooterSF

nipplenuts wrote: »

I don't know why you have an issue with this.

You are worse than the Herald, misleading etc. If you read the article you will find the cemetary gets an outside contractor to do this work. Should they do it for free? Should they not make a profit? Are they not a business? Really, RtDH, you need to spend less time stirring sh1t and more time polishing your tinfoil.

You're having a laugh right? They got caught with their hand in the cookie jar and claimed they outsourced the work. Why would they outsource a job that involves removing a few screws to a company charging €250? Wheres the business sense in that?

At the end of the day I'd be the last to get outraged as people need to realise that you can't let yourself get screwed because your in mourning but you cant believe what they're claiming is true?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2ec4z4g0Mw

Irishpimpdude

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

I wish to pursue a contract with you where I get 9 litres of petrol and a match for a tenner when I wish.

9 Litres of petrol at 102.9 = 9.26 , pack of matches 20c , look on your face when u see the body burn.... priceless :-)

Traditional

sure every thing is re useable even the coffins , they go out the back door , u can buy used ones in the buy & sell

€250 :eek:, that's unreal, I'm in the wrong job.

ejmaztec

Traditional wrote: »

sure every thing is re useable even the coffins , they go out the back door , u can buy used ones in the buy & sell

They even re-use the bodies, some bolted to the FF seats in The Dáil, and the rest in various shop windows all around the country.

latenia

Undertakers are shameless thieving scummers.

Overheal

latenia wrote: »

Undertakers are shameless thieving scummers.

What guarantee do we have they arent robbing the caskets before packing on the soil?

ejmaztec

Overheal wrote: »

What guarantee do we have they arent robbing the caskets before packing on the soil?

I'm having grenades in mine, with the pins attached to the lid.

ejmaztec

ejmaztec wrote: »

They even re-use the bodies, some bolted to the FF seats in The Dáil, and the rest in various shop windows all around the country.

http://ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/title/797546?view=synopsis

101 THINGS...: 101 THINGS TO DO WITH A DEAD BODY

Library Synopsis

"Reveals the stories behind the greatest age difference between a bride and groom, a New Orleans necrophiliac's night-time visits to local tombs, what was on the morgue mortician's menu and the man who uses corpse skin to enhance his patients' manhoods". @Channel 4 publicity

ejmaztec

Deleted User wrote: »

http://ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/title/797546?view=synopsis

I bet there was a lot of corpsing in that..:P

Gummy Panda

How do we know they are actually cremating the bodies?

I heard a rumour that a small green wafer which is advertised as being produced from "high-energy plankton" is actually these bodies

ejmaztec

Gummy Panda wrote: »

How do we know they are actually cremating the bodies?

I heard a rumour that a small green wafer which is advertised as being produced from "high-energy plankton" is actually these bodies

They sell those in SuperValu - "Real food - real people" *






*Royalty free repeat.

Darragh29

galwayrush wrote: »

Good grief, i am so undervalued as a Joiner.:eek:

:D:D

I think the undertakers should get a handle on this before more people are ripped off!

Run_to_da_hills

Chippy in an undertakers. e250 for five minutes work removing about 2 dozen spax screws, an average of two to three stiffs passing through a day, thats handy cash, and its recession proof. .

ejmaztec

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Chippy in an undertakers. e250 for five minutes work removing about 2 dozen spax screws, an average of two to three stiffs passing through a day, thats handy cash, and its recession proof. .

You have a way with words. Have you ever thought about becoming a bereavement counsellor? :pac:

Run_to_da_hills

ejmaztec wrote: »

You have a way with words. Have you ever thought about becoming a bereavement counsellor? :pac:

Dublin Bus is just as bad, passenger count to this day is still referred to as "skulls". :pac:

mumhaabu

At a family funeral once I went to lift the coffin and caught the handle only for it to break right off, to make matters worse my cousin on the opposite end did the same with similar results, thus our great uncle got a bit of slam down as the coffin fell down about a foot back onto the stand and were it not for the immediate rush from the family it would have capsized leading to calamity. We then had to shoulder it which (weighed an absolute tonne) with two plasticy stubs where the handles were.

There should be real handles not that crap, I'd pay the €250 for it when my time comes. These handles are buried with the coffin all the as are the guard so Environmentalism goes straight out the window there.

seanybiker

mumhaabu wrote: »

I'd pay the 250 for it when my time comes.

Em how would you plan on paying when yer dead

mumhaabu

seanybiker wrote: »

Em how would you plan on paying when yer dead

I will have ensured it is looked after with my estate by my legal team. It will be one of my instructions. Hopefully I shall not have to worry and with a bit of luck I should have several decades before it happens. Who knows they might be using one of those Fr. Ted like coffins when my time swings around.

stepbar

biko wrote: »

Everyone, I'll do it for a mere €150

Fcuk it I'd do it for 50 quid. Jeasus I could quit the job with all the folk dying these days

gazzer

My family had experience of this coffin handle rip off last month when we were arranging my aunts cremation. On picking the coffin we liked we were told that because of the handles on the coffin there would be a charge to remove them prior to the cremation. When we asked that we get to keep the handles after removal (just so our mind was at ease that they were not used on another coffin) we were told that it wasnt possible.

Morlar

gazzer wrote: »

My family had experience of this coffin handle rip off last month when we were arranging my aunts cremation. On picking the coffin we liked we were told that because of the handles on the coffin there would be a charge to remove them prior to the cremation. When we asked that we get to keep the handles after removal (just so our mind was at ease that they were not used on another coffin) we were told that it wasnt possible.

There is probably only one single set of coffin handles in all of Dublin & these guys just keep selling them twice, once to put on then once more to take off and so on with the next family.

bonerm

Gummy Panda wrote: »

How do we know they are actually cremating the bodies?

Good question

Morlar

backrower8 wrote: »

The primary purpose of the €250 charge is to deter the use of metal and plastic handles on coffins for cremation for the environmental reasons outlined. Glasnevin Trust would prefer not to have to apply the charge but a small minority of people (less than 3% of cremations) still decide to use plastic or metal handles.

backrower8 wrote: »

The use of a deterrent charge has been a very successful measure resulting in less than 3% of cremations now using metal and plastic handles.

What right is it of yours to try to dictate what people use ?

Why not allow them to use what materials they prefer and then if they do need to be removed prior to cremation charge them a reasonable amount.

backrower8 wrote: »

A secondary reason for the charge is the contribution they make to the additional costs of disposing of the metal and plastic handles when they are used on coffins for cremation. These additional costs are mainly related to the disposal of the handles by outside contractors, as well as to Glasnevin Trust’s own internal resources in managing the process of readying the handles for responsible disposal.

Why not give the bereaved families the option of keeping the handles as a keepsake, or, let them dispose of them without the 'Trust's overhead for the internal resources in managing the process of readying the handles for responsible disposal' ?

MaybeLogic

latenia wrote: »

Undertakers are shameless thieving scummers.

They're not all bad.
Friend of mine is an undertaker.Lovely fella,always ready to give you a dig-out and he'd be the last man to put you down.

Morlar

MaybeLogic wrote: »

They're not all bad.
Friend of mine is an undertaker.Lovely fella,always ready to give you a dig-out and he'd be the last man to put you down.

This whole thread reminds me of Donny's burial scene in The big lebowski

ronaneire

backrower8 wrote: »

Hello


I should have seen this conversation and addressed it last March but I did not.

No as you only joined today?

But why the outrageous cost of €250 to remove a few handles? Or is it to pay for the new equipment installed in 2000/2001?

Super Sidious

Still €250 is a shocking amount to charge for such a menial task... funerals are already hugely expensive, and its one of those times in life were you are not going to "haggle", you just put up the money! I suppose some things will never change, screwing people for as much as you can get out of them, at a very vunerable time.

I understand your there to make a living and a profit, but to use a large amount of money as a deterent to people selecting a coffin for their loved ones is still horrible!

Jumpy

ejmaztec wrote: »

They sell those in SuperValu - "Real food - real people" *






*Royalty free repeat.

Haha! I almost soylent myself laughing at that.

TheZohanS

It's way too much to pay.

Anyone feels like talking abou it further can go here.