ITV HD via new Sky EPG

pbirney

Over on the Digitalspy forums, "CharlesC" is reporting that those with the new Sky EPG can receive the ITV HD channel using the following parameters:

11.427
H
2/3
27500

channel ID: 10510

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showpost.php?p=31258532&postcount=3780

Don't have the new EPG so I can't confirm.


EDIT: Seems to have been confirmed.

Someone has posted pics:

http://s702.photobucket.com/albums/ww28/reddwarfcrew1975/

More pics:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/48811518@N00/3345217968/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/48811518@N00/3344378831/

azzeretti

Does anyone know if this will mean that Channel 4 HD will be tuneable? I am still waiting for the EPG upgrade, so I can't test the ITVHD yet, but it seems to be confirmed.

Onikage

AFAIK Channel 4 HD is still encrypted, UK cards only.

azzeretti

Onikage wrote: »

AFAIK Channel 4 HD is still encrypted, UK cards only.

Yeah....dunno what I was thinking there, forgot its FTV. Ah well, some good HD games to look forward to whenever the EPG comes down.

Pat Gleeson

The HD channels (except BBC HD and Luxe TV) have a symbol rate of 29.0, which can't be tuned in manually by a Sky HD box.

Talking about the new EPG, does anyone have confirmation of anyone in Ireland receiving it. Boxes with the Version No. 4E300E only received the update at 4.00am this morning.

snaps

its a bit sneaky that sky have re written their software to allow their receivers to receive itvhd which was only suppposed to be on freesat!

John mac

well i guess i will have to wait for the new epg

Onikage

snaps wrote: »

its a bit sneaky that sky have re written their software to allow their receivers to receive itvhd which was only suppposed to be on freesat!

I don't care for sky, but surely a channel that is broadcast FTA should actually be FREE to air? In fact if we think about the reasons behind the "other channels" section in the first place, legally they may be obliged to allow reception of it...

GerardKeating

Onikage wrote: »

I don't care for sky, but surely a channel that is broadcast FTA should actually be FREE to air? In fact if we think about the reasons behind the "other channels" section in the first place, legally they may be obliged to allow reception of it...

But ITV-HD is Free to air, there is no charge, but if the Sky-HD box is not able to process the signal, there is little the law can do.

enfant terrible

Was reading all Thompson HD boxes to be updated by end of March, I have version 4E3007

branners69

I added ITV HD as a channel but all I am getting at the moment is "This service is currently unavailable"

Anyone know does ITV HD show any football?

Update:
Just found this, I thought BBC HD had very little on it until I saw the ITV HD schedule!

enfant terrible

branners69 wrote: »

I added ITV HD as a channel but all I am getting at the moment is "This service is currently unavailable"

Anyone know does ITV HD show any football?

Update:
Just found this, I thought BBC HD had very little on it until I saw the ITV HD schedule!

Hi Branners,

Is the channel blocked or is there just nothing on?

mjsmyth

There is nothing on ITV HD at the moment... That could account for "This service is currently unavailable"


As for ITV HD and football, they have FA Cup, Champions League and some England games in HD. Check out liveonsat.com for details of what football is on ITV.

mj

branners69

There is nothing on, and from the weekly schedule there is never anything on! Somedays only have an hour programme on at 9pm such as Law & Order UK. The Liverpool was on earlier but I missed that in HD:(

Thanks for the website mj, will check it out!

enfant terrible

What's the chances Channel 4 HD changing to FTA

Pat Gleeson

ITV HD have a very limited schedule. The only way to access it up to now was via the interactive red button service on Freesat / Sat4Free. Champions League, FA Cup, some films and the odd programme here and there is all that's shown.

The new SkyHD EPG has somehow allowed the channel to be manually added, and those of you who have the new EPG can add ITV HD and you can see a caption during the (extensive) down time of the channel.

http://www.nk1973.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/sky/epg/IMG_3204.jpg

Rick_

Channel 4 HD may be FTA later this year. Not confirmed, but heavily touted and hinted at in some e-mails users on other forums have received after enquiries to Channel 4. Sit back and watch the boards, you'll be the first to know when something appears!

Kristopherus

enfant terrible wrote: »

Was reading all Thompson HD boxes to be updated by end of March, I have version 4E3007

Do you have to have a phone line connected to get the EPG updated. I have a Thomson box since August 2007. No phone line connected. My version No. is 4E2110. Am I left in the dark ages

enfant terrible

Kristopherus wrote: »

Do you have to have a phone line connected to get the EPG updated. I have a Thomson box since August 2007. No phone line connected. My version No. is 4E2110. Am I left in the dark ages

No phone line needed, i don't have it connected either

Pat Gleeson

Paddy C wrote: »

Channel 4 HD may be FTA later this year. Not confirmed, but heavily touted and hinted at in some e-mails users on other forums have received after enquiries to Channel 4.

I've heard that too. I hope C4 HD changes it's symbol rate from 29.0 to 27.5, otherwise it wont be possible to tune it manually, or better still go on the Irish EPG (possible).

watty

They won't reduce SymRate. That is throwing away quality. Expect most DVB-S2 or HD only transponders to be at higher than 27500

branners69

Pat Gleeson wrote: »

...better still go on the Irish EPG (possible).

If CH4 and CH4+1 are available, apart from the odd programme being blocked, why isnt CH4 HD here?

I thought the original delay was due to programme rights etc.

Tonio

Previous threads on this have speculated that it could be due to advertising reasons ie only one region for hd so no irish adverts. This would reduce viewers c4 sd irish ads and would cost c4 money

Pat Gleeson

watty wrote: »

They won't reduce SymRate. That is throwing away quality. Expect most DVB-S2 or HD only transponders to be at higher than 27500

BBC HD symbol rate is 22.0, whilst Luxe TV is 27.0

http://www.lyngsat.com/28east.html

von Smallhausen

Over on the DS Freesat Forum there is a big discussion on the fact that ITV HD supposing to be a "Freesat exclusive". But in the past few days Sky HD customers with the new EPG have accessed this via "Other Channels".

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=1001663

What I want to know is, What are your views on the ITV HD senario. Should Sky HD customers get this or remain exclusive to freesat?

mjsmyth

The simple facts are:

1 - ITV HD is a FTA channel.
2 - A Sky HD box is just a satellite receiver with its own fancy software on it.
3 - Many HD Sat. receivers have been capable of tuning in ITV HD for a long time.
4 - Sky have updated, upgraded the system software and epg for some of their Sky HD boxes to improve functionality.
5 - Sky have not cracked or hacked or done anything else illegal or dodgy by giving their boxes the ability to tune in ITV HD.
6 - Technically ITV HD is still a freesat exclusive as it does not appear on the Sky EPG.
7 - If ITV wanted ITV HD to be a real freesat exclusive, they would have had to encrypt the transmission.

So... ITV HD is not on SKY. It is possible though to tune it in on a Sky receiver and added to Other Channels. The same can be said of Sky News or Luxe TV HD. Neither of those are on freesat, but can be added in to Non Freesat channels.

I fail to see what the issue is. Oh I have freesat HD.

mj

celticfc

mjsmyth wrote: »

The simple facts are:

1 - ITV HD is a FTA channel.
2 - A Sky HD box is just a satellite receiver with its own fancy software on it.
3 - Many HD Sat. receivers have been capable of tuning in ITV HD for a long time.
4 - Sky have updated, upgraded the system software and epg for some of their Sky HD boxes to improve functionality.
5 - Sky have not cracked or hacked or done anything else illegal or dodgy by giving their boxes the ability to tune in ITV HD.
6 - Technically ITV HD is still a freesat exclusive as it does not appear on the Sky EPG.
7 - If ITV wanted ITV HD to be a real freesat exclusive, they would have had to encrypt the transmission.

So... ITV HD is not on SKY. It is possible though to tune it in on a Sky receiver and added to Other Channels. The same can be said of Sky News or Luxe TV HD. Neither of those are on freesat, but can be added in to Non Freesat channels.

I fail to see what the issue is. Oh I have freesat HD.

mj

Exactly!

I have Freesat HD too and I'm delighted that it's happened.

I have been following the disscussion on DS and AV Forums over the past couple of days about it, **The mind boggles**. :rolleyes:

Follow the DS link if you want a good laugh to cheer you up on a miserable day.

Anyone notice that the Liverpool games was the 1st time there was no Sound dropouts and the picture imo was the best it has ever been.

Maybe a bit of a negotiation has gone on, Amazing what sky upload facilities can fix.

In return for a favour.

von Smallhausen

celticfc wrote: »

Exactly!

I have Freesat HD too and I'm delighted that it's happened.

I have been following the disscussion on DS and AV Forums over the past couple of days about it, **The mind boggles**. :rolleyes:

Follow the DS link if you want a good laugh to cheer you up on a miserable day.

That DS thread is completly insane!! Came across it the other day and could do nothing but laugh. With laughing that hard i think i broke a rib:D:D:D:D:D

fat-tony

cisk wrote: »

Anyone notice that the Liverpool games was the 1st time there was no Sound dropouts and the picture imo was the best it has ever been.

Maybe a bit of a negotiation has gone on, Amazing what sky upload facilities can fix.

In return for a favour.

What's the inference you're drawing?

-mcguire-

Help me here people. I can't tune in itvhd on my sky hd box which i had installed last Monday. How do you get this epg upgrade and what exactly is it???

mjsmyth

I'm afraid there is nothing you can do to speed up getting the updated epg. Sky are updating boxes in batches and you just have to wait.

Thats probably not what you wanted to hear, but it is the unfortunate truth.

MJ

branners69

-mcguire- wrote: »

I can't tune in itvhd on my sky hd box...

No harm, as there is never anything on it when I check it out!

But as is said above, you have to wait, anything up to 6 months I hear!

rogue-entity

Pat Gleeson wrote: »

Talking about the new EPG, does anyone have confirmation of anyone in Ireland receiving it. Boxes with the Version No. 4E300E only received the update at 4.00am this morning.

Hmm... I have version number 4E3004, I wonder if I'll get the update before the rest of you..

hottstuff

rogue-entity wrote: »

Hmm... I have version number 4E3004, I wonder if I'll get the update before the rest of you..

I got mine this morning, 3004 box.

von Smallhausen

Wonder which one is going to be next lets hope its the 4E3007's that get it:D

staker

Danny_B wrote: »

Wonder which one is going to be next lets hope its the 4E3007's 4E3006's that get it:D

Fixed that there Danny!:P

von Smallhausen

Oh no Staker..07's first

John W

Pat Gleeson wrote: »

ITV HD have a very limited schedule. The only way to access it up to now was via the interactive red button service on Freesat / Sat4Free. Champions League, FA Cup, some films and the odd programme here and there is all that's shown.

The new SkyHD EPG has somehow allowed the channel to be manually added, and those of you who have the new EPG can add ITV HD and you can see a caption during the (extensive) down time of the channel.

http://www.nk1973.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/sky/epg/IMG_3204.jpg

I was on E-bay and someone is "selling" instructions on how to get ITV HD on Sky - (only 99p, but still) is he just selling us the frequency given on this forum, or is there more to it - see below, what do you think?

You can now watch ITV HD CHANNEL ON SKY HD BOX / RECEIVER?

All you will need is

this easy step by step guide

And your SKY HD Remote

Proven to Work

For only £0.99p or even less with a Best Offer you will receive a full step by step guide

explaining how you can set-up ITV HD on SKY HD

* Watch FOOTBALL in HD including:

Champions League

FA Cup

World Cup Qualifiers

ALSO ITV HD USUALLY BROADCAST MOVIES IN HD - THERE ARE LOADS MORE TO BE SHOWN

ALSO MANY ITV SHOWS AND DRAMA'S ARE BROADCAST ON ITV HD

PLEASE NOTE - YOU WON'T FIND ITV HD ANYWHERE WITHIN THE NORMAL SKY PROGRAMME GUIDE AND YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO RECORD IT OR USE ANY OF THE PVR FUNCTIONS OF THE SKY+ HD BOX.

THIS WILL ONLY WORK ON SKY HD BOXES WHICH HAVE BEEN UPGRADED TO THE NEW EPG VERSION (ELECTRONIC PROGRAMME GUIDE).
*****Same Day Dispatch*****

slegs

No you cant record it and yes its just the other channels frequency that can be found in a million places on the web without paying for it.

Mossy Monk

John W wrote: »

is he just selling us the frequency

Yes and probably the what buttons to push to tune it in.

brimur69

I have had SKY+ HD now for over a year and have yet to get the new EPG, I have a Samsung box which I heard had a delayed release of the new HD EPG. Have many people been upgraded to the new EPG who have Samsung boxes?

Rick_

Only beta testers have the new EPG on a Samsung STB. There is no set date for it at the moment so no-one knows when we are going to get it.

I had a Pace STB for a year and was getting used to and enjoying having the new EPG.... then my box died and after several replacements I ended up with a brand new Samsung. Works perfectly and is quite fast but I'm stuck with the old EPG again so no access to ITV HD. Ah well.

John W

Paddy C wrote: »

Only beta testers have the new EPG on a Samsung STB. There is no set date for it at the moment so no-one knows when we are going to get it.

I had a Pace STB for a year and was getting used to and enjoying having the new EPG.... then my box died and after several replacements I ended up with a brand new Samsung. Works perfectly and is quite fast but I'm stuck with the old EPG again so no access to ITV HD. Ah well.

Have to be honest (besides getting ITV HD) I really am not keen on the new EPG - yes the preview window is nice, but i find that it is slower to find things, and slower in general to move between menus! Plus althogh the preview window is cool - sometimes if I have recoded football or something and don't want to see the score, the menu goes to the last page viewed (in my case sports channel) it pop's up in the preview window, and the only way to get rid of it is by choosing another channel and going to it!So your not missing to much lads

fox007

Lads I just got the samsung sky HD box there last week. I tried to tune in itv 1 HD but when the list of channels comes up it's not there? Now is there away for me to get this or do I have to wait for the upgrade?if so does anyone know what station has the man utd match on tonight in HD.thanks for any help

Minstrel27

fox007 wrote: »

Lads I just got the samsung sky HD box there last week. I tried to tune in itv 1 HD but when the list of channels comes up it's not there? Now is there away for me to get this or do I have to wait for the upgrade?if so does anyone know what station has the man utd match on tonight in HD.thanks for any help

Try 10832 H 22.0 5/6

ITV1 HD is the only way of seeing the Manchester United game in HD if you have Sky

fox007

Minstrel27 wrote: »

Try 10832 H 22.0 5/6

ITV1 HD is the only way of seeing the Manchester United game in HD if you have Sky

Thanks for that it worked!!!

brimur69

fox007 wrote: »

Lads I just got the samsung sky HD box there last week. I tried to tune in itv 1 HD but when the list of channels comes up it's not there? Now is there away for me to get this or do I have to wait for the upgrade?if so does anyone know what station has the man utd match on tonight in HD.thanks for any help

Go to the Add Channels menu and use the following settings:

11.427
H
2/3
27500

Channel 10510

Minstrel27

brimur69 wrote: »

Go to the Add Channels menu and use the following settings:

11.427
H
2/3
27500

Channel 10510

I doubt that one will be there for much longer.

DanR

To tune ITV HD on a Sky+ HD box I used the following and it works. Brilliant. I will have every match of the world cup in HD now....!


To add ITV HD, go to the TV Guide, find Options in the top menu, then drop down and scroll along to Add Channels.

Change the Frequency details to 11.427 and press Select. (Nothing happens.) Then change Polarisation to H. Leave the Symbol Rate as 27.5 and FEC as 2/3. Then press the yellow button for Find Channels.

On the next page, there should be several services listed. Scroll down to Channel 10510 and press Store Channel. A tick will appear next to Channel 10510. This is the channel name for ITV HD, and it’s now stored in the box.

To view the channel, go to the TV Guide, find Options in the top menu, then drop down and scroll along to Other Channels. Drop the cursor into the apparently empty listing box — and Channel 10510 will then appear. Select the channel.

Pat Gleeson

Do as above, but use the 10.836 frequency. The other was the original Freesat 'Red Button' frequency, and as stated By Minstrel above may not be there much longer. Also the channel will appear as 'ITV 1 HD' instead of 10510