MCSE2003 70-291 HELPPPPPPPPPP

Billoxyz

Guys hows it going,

Im doing 70-291 tomorow, Ive been studying the hell out of loads of dumps, but today i hear pro metric have upgraded and all MCSE exams and i mean ALL not just 291. "exam content is now varying widely on the new prometric.com" I currently use Sadikhov.com for certing communicating, it is absolutely excellent, I however need to find out alot of information on recent exams, i.e. people whove taken it today yesterday etc in uk preferably, does anyone on Boards know of any exam cert sites? ive been searching and cant find anything as good as sadikhov, but i notice that some sites dont appear on google so there must be some,
please help someone or advice something for me to do to pas this exam at such short notice, I will do anything, including staying up 24/7

NullZer0

Billoxyz wrote: »

Guys hows it going,

Im doing 70-291 tomorow, Ive been studying the hell out of loads of dumps, but today i hear pro metric have upgraded and all MCSE exams and i mean ALL not just 291. "exam content is now varying widely on the new prometric.com" I currently use Sadikhov.com for certing communicating, it is absolutely excellent, I however need to find out alot of information on recent exams, i.e. people whove taken it today yesterday etc in uk preferably, does anyone on Boards know of any exam cert sites? ive been searching and cant find anything as good as sadikhov, but i notice that some sites dont appear on google so there must be some,
please help someone or advice something for me to do to pas this exam at such short notice, I will do anything, including staying up 24/7

Where are you taking the exam?

70-291 is not an entry level exam.
You should have studied for this exam and ideally have some experience.

Dumps are a way to cheat exams without having any knowledge.
I'm sure your IP has been logged here but... its easy to narrow down the testing centres in Ireland.

Don't be suprised if you are reported - and if you are you will be banned from Microsoft Certs for life.


Let that be a warning.

jim_bob

learn the material and not the dumps and you will be grand

Billoxyz

Any advice buddy? sorry I am feeling the pressure.
This is a huge exam for me as I will be MCSA if i get it.
I know I should have prepared better if it was such a huge exam.
But i know my stuff to a decent extent, to the point where i get normally at least 50% of the dumps first time.

I passed 270, 290 with an absolute Breeze.

I found this concerning post online amongst many others.

"To all members seeking 70-291 certification....
I sat my 70-291 exam today and scored a dismal 667.... used Evilrens, TestOut, MeaureUp, MCSA/MCSE Training Kit..... apart from one sim, Add MX record, not a single question from any of these resorces... I was told by course coordinator just before exam that other students had reported that there were little or no questions from any of these resources either....
An absolute first for me... I've never actually failed at anything before.......... (never had less than 900 in any exam......
I'm not saying these resources aren't helpfully.... but to rely on them..... well it's your choice....
Any body else sat 70-291 in the past two weeks?? What's your results/responce

Regards
bravanovich

A+
Network+
Linux
MCDST
70-270
70-290
"

testicle

iRock wrote: »

Where are you taking the exam?

70-291 is not an entry level exam.
You should have studied for this exam and ideally have some experience.

Dumps are a way to cheat exams without having any knowledge.
I'm sure your IP has been logged here but... its easy to narrow down the testing centres in Ireland.

Don't be suprised if you are reported - and if you are you will be banned from Microsoft Certs for life.


Let that be a warning.

What planet have you come from?

NullZer0

testicle wrote: »

What planet have you come from?

So you agree its okay to use them?

NullZer0

Billoxyz wrote: »

Any advice buddy? sorry I am feeling the pressure.
This is a huge exam for me as I will be MCSA if i get it.

Yes, reschedule the exam for 2 months time.
Get the MS Press and Sybex Books, read them and do the labs in them.

See if you can get some video training (if you feel the above isn't enough - even though it should be).

Revise the books again by skiming through and making notes of the key points.

By using dumps you are doing nothing more than driving down the value of such certifications.

Billoxyz

Irock, get a life you loser. Dumps arent cheating. there called practicing thats whythere called practice exams, MCSA COURSES USE DUMPS TO TRAIN CLASSES OF 30 STUDENTS YOU MORON.

Some of the most reputable private exam companys in ireland so go and f*** yourself. I didnt ask to be ridiculed I asked to be helped.
Im welll aware I could have studied harder but I thought hey I have enough of an idea already to slack pass it.

Dumps illegal, theres something wrong with you.
Id say your one sad man, id almost bet my life on it.
I use dumps, I did 290 and the dumps i did werent appearing, hence me saying i use them for practice, i got over 90% so go and p*ss off you d*ckhead, ye go log ninjacloaks proxy, or 5 doors down wireless.

Im a systems administrator not an idiot
Im well aware I could have studied harder, but i said hey why not chance it.

It worked b4 for me

Billoxyz

Threatening people on the internet is low, people like you are sad and little sp**y pr*cks in real life. Im not saying im a hard man but I would bet my life on it you wouldnt have the neck to say that to my face. u use the internet as some kind of new way to start an image for yourself, if you havent got any usefull advice f*** off.

Explain how dumps are illegal you clown, you have no idea what your talking about

how can reputable companys that charge 5000euro plus for courses get away with using them in the teaching curriculum?

NullZer0

Billoxyz wrote: »

Irock, get a life you loser. Dumps arent cheating. there called practicing thats whythere called practice exams, MCSA COURSES USE DUMPS TO TRAIN CLASSES OF 30 STUDENTS YOU MORON.

Some of the most reputable private exam companys in ireland so go and f*** yourself. I didnt ask to be ridiculed I asked to be helped.
Im welll aware I could have studied harder but I thought hey I have enough of an idea already to slack pass it.

Dumps illegal, theres something wrong with you.
Id say your one sad man, id almost bet my life on it.
I use dumps, I did 290 and the dumps i did werent appearing, hence me saying i use them for practice, i got over 90% so go and p*ss off you d*ckhead, ye go log ninjacloaks proxy, or 5 doors down wireless.

Im a systems administrator not an idiot
Im well aware I could have studied harder, but i said hey why not chance it.

It worked b4 for me

Yes I'm very sad - thats why I have passed this exam already without Dumps and I have a decent job because of my knowledge - that I WORKED HARD TO GET.

If you are a "systems administrator" you would know the stuff already.

Billoxyz wrote: »

Dumps illegal, theres something wrong with you.

You agreed to MS / Prometric exam terms when you signed up for this exam.

Billoxyz wrote: »

Im well aware I could have studied harder, but i said hey why not chance it.

No - you said hey why not cheat it.

Billoxyz wrote: »

Some of the most reputable private exam companys in ireland so go and f*** yourself. I didnt ask to be ridiculed I asked to be helped.

No - the dodgy "private" exam companies do this.


I'm not usually the kind of guy to do it but take it out of me and I WILL REPORT YOU - One email is all it takes and I'd be well within my rights to.


Go get a life

NullZer0

Billoxyz wrote: »

Threatening people on the internet is low, people like you are sad and little sp**y pr*cks in real life. Im not saying im a hard man but I would bet my life on it you wouldnt have the neck to say that to my face. u use the internet as some kind of new way to start an image for yourself, if you havent got any usefull advice f*** off.

I wouldn't waste my time.
As far as I can see, you are way further down the foodchain.

I'd actually put money on it that you haven't done any big multisite jobs etc... and you wont either if you dump your exams.

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Billoxyz wrote: »

how can reputable companys that charge 5000euro plus for courses get away with using them in the teaching curriculum?

You do realise that these are things that can be learned from a book. I mean, to even consider paying that amount for MCSA training you would have to be pretty slow at picking it up.

http://www.certguard.com/

NullZer0

Reported

randomer

Braindumps contain actual exam questions and answers. Official training centres would use sample questions.

It is not illegal to use brain dumps. Publishing a braindump is against the non-disclosure agreement that you sign up to when you undertake an exam.

To be honest, in an interview it takes about 1 minute to differentiate from someone who has passed certification exams based on brain dumps, and someone who has passed them based on actual knowledge.

Billoxyz

Dude, dont be mad at me cuz u spent months studying something and i spent a week cramming something. thats my choice.

And now im hardly lying, Im a systems administrator, I manage active directory domains, its ridiuclous to say that if thats my job, these exams cover such wide scopes that its not true.

Look man, I dont want to argue with you, in truth I have alot of respect for people who do it 100% by the book. But as I said I dont rely 100% on dumps. and they arent illegal there similar practice questions. and no I did a cert course with the BIGGEST company in ireland they were giving me cracked programs and dump files. Also did lab work.

I just want to say, im not the kind of person who is bringing these certs down ive met these people b4. I have a natural technical ability hence my age 22 and I am already a head sys admin for a company.
I know my stuff, just because i know my stuff doesnt mean I know the 291 book inside out. I think I can validate this because any practice exams i do first time i get at least 50/60%. I dont rely wholely on dumps. I have self paced books and i do use them just not 100%.

I think your being over the top with me, if you want to report me do. its your choice.

NullZer0

randomer wrote: »

Braindumps contain actual exam questions and answers. Official training centres would use sample questions.

It is not illegal to use brain dumps. Publishing a braindump is against the non-disclosure agreement that you sign up to when you undertake an exam.

To be honest, in an interview it takes about 1 minute to differentiate from someone who has passed certification exams based on brain dumps, and someone who has passed them based on actual knowledge.

+1

Now - I'm not posting here again because if I do I'll end up getting myself banned.

Billoxyz

Thats what i use I have a cd they gave me, full of the questions
How is this cheating? Irock report me to whoever you want.
Im sure MS will come kicking my door down for this haha. studying course curriculum! ur banned!

Ill tell u what Irock, Ill show u CV

randomer

Billoxyz wrote: »

Thats what i use I have a cd they gave me, full of the questions
How is this cheating? Irock report me to whoever you want.
Im sure MS will come kicking my door down for this haha. studying course curriculum! ur banned!

Ill tell u what Irock, Ill show u CV

Braindumps have devalued the Microsoft certification. Using brain dumps, it is possible for someone to complete a certification without ever using the technology! They defeats the purpose of the certification. I also don't think employers pay much attention to these certifications because of this.

This is from the Microsoft website (http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcpexams/policies/nda.mspx).

Microsoft Certification Non-Disclosure Agreement wrote:

Exam security and integrity
Efforts to keep Exams secure help maintain the value of Microsoft Certification and help ensure that only qualified information technology professionals are certified.

The Examinee may be prohibited from taking any Microsoft Certification Exams, and/or may be decertified as a Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP) if Examinee violates this Exam Agreement and/or engages in any misconduct. Testing center proctors are authorized to take immediate and appropriate measures against Examinees that are caught violating testing rules. This policy is enforced to ensure the integrity of the Microsoft Certification exams and the MCP. Examples of misconduct and/or misuse of the Exam include, but are not limited to the following:

• Submission of any work that is not completely your own

• Providing or accepting improper assistance

• Using unauthorized materials in an attempt to satisfy Exam requirements (this includes using braindump material and/or any unauthorized publication of Exam questions with or without answers)

• Disseminating actual Exam content

• Possession of non-authorized items at the testing center during an Exam

• Misconduct as determined by statistical analysis

• Modifying and/or altering the original results/score report for this Exam or any other Exam records

• Fraudulently impersonating another to gain access to the Exam

• Violation of the current Exam Retake Policy

• Copying, publishing, selling, offering to sell, distributing in any way, or otherwise transferring, modifying, making derivative works of, reverse engineering, decompiling, disassembling, or translating any Exam or any part thereof



Microsoft hereby expressly reserves all of its rights and remedies arising out of a breach of this agreement and/or the infringement of any Microsoft intellectual property rights including, but not limited to, its copyrighted certification Exams.

Billoxyz

Are sample questions illegal? I never thought they would be as my teacher gave them to me. I dont think I devalue them because I honestly do look after multiple AD sites and anything I need to know to do my job im pro active in learning quickly.

I would feel bad if I thought I was passing an exam by cheating. What are the difference between dumps and Sample Q's is there any?

I dont understand how sum1 by studying practice q's if they dont know the technology they wont kow the questions on the day end of?? no??

Billoxyz

Irock accusing me of cheating like that is a disgrace, I am an IT professional who is trying to do things the right way beleive it or not. I dont want to cheat I just want some kind of a mock exam thats all.

U annoyed me so much that if I pass tomorow, Ive got Spandau Ballet True loaded on my ipod, going to blast it out in the middle of the city centre tomorow, from my Honda Integra DC5 Type R, go 6000 revs through the city centre and hope I run you over.

People like you make me sick.
You cant just accuse me of dumping a whole cert

I have a history in IT,

from entry level up

A+
N+
Security+

3 x MCPS , 270, 290, Exchange

I havent dumped anything, Im coming up against a monster of an exam tomorow which im going to fail, that should be enough for you.

As good old Keggy said I would love it If I beat you, Beating you is passing for me.

randomer

Billoxyz wrote: »

Are sample questions illegal? I never thought they would be as my teacher gave them to me. I dont think I devalue them because I honestly do look after multiple AD sites and anything I need to know to do my job im pro active in learning quickly.

I would feel bad if I thought I was passing an exam by cheating. What are the difference between dumps and Sample Q's is there any?

I dont understand how sum1 by studying practice q's if they dont know the technology they wont kow the questions on the day end of?? no??

Dumps are actual questions and answers from the exam. Remember them and you pass. You don't need to understand them, just remember.

Dump Sample
What is my favourite colour?
a) Black
b) Blue
c) Orange
d) Red

Answer: C Orange

You don't know me, but if you were doing an exam based on me and can remember the questions from the "dump" you could answer the question.

Sample Questions are simulations. They are designed to help you understand the subject matter, and apply the knowledge to other questions. If you understand these questions, you should be able to apply your knowledge to other questions.

Billoxyz

Thats it dude, I have 2000Qs here, how could i learn them all??????
Ill be honest 1 or 2 max identical questions came up in my 270 exam

I didnt know there was a difference between the 2.
the whole point of me doing them is so i can understand why the answer is what it is when i get it wrong.

I didnt realise this was such a touchy subject, I can honestly say im not one of the people who devalue you are jobs.

I started where I work as helpdesk support, Ive been promoted 3 times in 3 years Im now Head Sys admin for a company with 1000+ comps in Irleand, I do everything from ghosting, to site replication to san management, my most recent conquest is SMS 2003 & WSUS
Honestly I put the work in,

I met a guy one time who had an mcsa when i was 18, he started with us and i swear to god he didnt have a fing clue, I guess these are the guys to watch out for. Even I could spot he was dodge. I was fairly inexperienced.

I will be very carefull in future to make sure anything I use are samples.
Cheers for heads upm8

That No*end really pi**ed me off though, I work hard at my job.
Ive worked hard all my life at this only to be called a cheat by someone who doesnt even read the posts hes ridiculing properly?

Im looking at the site I found this morning and as it turns out they all use dumps, going to stay away from there from now on, I did a pre course for my MCSA in a lab with practicals, it is a big course tho :X

Why are there so many people on boards that are just outright nasty and trouble makers?

My mates house got smashed up by sum1 on here, unreal what the internet can do for spo**y geeks who cant even get a woman on the weekend.

Turns out the guy must have worked at an isp*or had a contact in1*, got his ip, got the address, next thing u know rocks through the windows of the apartment. He got a PM from a newly made boards account created on hidemya*s.com in an interrnet cafe saying that next time hes going to burn his house down. no word of a lie....

aidan_walsh

OP banned for personal abuse.

donaghs

Sounds like a troll, trying to wind-up people over the whole brain dump thing. Maybe legitimate as that sort of lazy attitude does exist. Hard to follow the thought process. Was the original question basically saying, "even though I have the exam somewhere in my 2000 sample questions, it seems like too much work to go through them, and I heard a rumour that they've changed some aspect of the exam. Can someone give me the exam I will get on the day?"

NullZer0

Billoxyz wrote: »

Turns out the guy must have worked at an isp*or had a contact in1*, got his ip, got the address, next thing u know rocks through the windows of the apartment. He got a PM from a newly made boards account created on hidemya*s.com in an interrnet cafe saying that next time hes going to burn his house down. no word of a lie....

Troll/Idiot/Compulsive Liar.

Amazing how they can trace dynamic IP addresses.

_CreeD_

I don't know what amazes me more each time this comes up, that someone is stupid enough to try and justify it or that they get so defensive over something they claim doesn't need defending.

mark renton

Am I too late??

Ahh the moral dilemma of braindumps raises its head again

Saruman

Is a dump not just like what the department of education gives out to Junior and Leaving cert students?
Mocks and past papers etc? Im having a hard time seeing the difference and I would hardly call it cheating. Not having ever seen a dump I can not say but surely it is providing possible questions and the answers that go with it. Its not like he is walking into the exam with the answers to all the questions.

axer

Saruman wrote: »

Is a dump not just like what the department of education gives out to Junior and Leaving cert students?
Mocks and past papers etc? Im having a hard time seeing the difference and I would hardly call it cheating. Not having ever seen a dump I can not say but surely it is providing possible questions and the answers that go with it. Its not like he is walking into the exam with the answers to all the questions.

Whilst you might get 700 questions and answers with a dump - the odds are usually that all the questions in the exam will have come up in the dumps.

The leaving and junior cert is one exam every year per subject. Dumps are just that - they are people going in doing the exams and then dumping on down the questions they were asked. This means someone sitting the exam a month later pretty much knows what they will be asked. It is completely different to the leaving and junior cert that is only annual and where all students sit the exam at the one time to avoid the possibility of dumps.

CorkFenian

From my own experience the only people who rate MS exams are those in HR,agencies etc...I have a MCSE and MCSA and can honestly say it has become so devalued its unreal..Whats the alternative though??The people doing them like myself are only trying to better ourselves, and shouldnt be punished for that either.I have met plenty of people who never did exams and were bad and plenty who were unbelievable.Guys who were just hands on and learnt that way..(Best way IMO)...We all dont have that luxury though...I think Microsoft could have done more for it and should continue to do more...We all have transcripts..Why not have some form of control with using this?? As in there is no point someone on a 1st level helpdesk having a MCSE.They simply wont have seen it..They couldnt have...
We all know why MS dont introduce regulations and changes..The money involved..They dont care as long as the gospel of MS is spread..Thats my opinion anyway...

mark renton

CorkFenian wrote: »

From my own experience the only people who rate MS exams are those in HR,agencies etc...I have a MCSE and MCSA and can honestly say it has become so devalued its unreal..Whats the alternative though??quote]

College Degree is yer only man...

And always remember.. "When Chuck Norris jumps into the river he doesn't get wet, The water gets Norrissed" :cool:

axer

MS exams are not that bad if you follow the curriculum and learn what you are supposed to learn. I find they are useful in that they give you a good base knowledge before or whilst you are using a piece of software or trying to set something up. They cannot teach you everything. Doing the exam can be helpful in a motivational type of way.

Whether people shun them or not is another story. I can't imagine someone not being hired just because they have an MCSE etc. - that would be just stupid. College degrees are worse imo.

mark renton

Whatever the education or certification, the bottom line is people are hired on the understanding they have the ability to learn and have made the effort to learn. This is shown with certs and/or college degree.

Ginger

Its all about experience..

What is a cert.. proof that at a certain time on a certain day you provided enough correct information to pass the exam. Thats it. It doesnt define that you knew anything more than you were asked.

Degree, to a lesser extent. Grade curves etc etc who knows and its a one where you can bolster bad results with good ones. But its prrof that you can learn and its a longer slog. All degrees are not created equal unfortunately. Sad but true.

All have merits all have bad points.

If either or both are backed up by experience then its better. A cert without experience is no better than a degree without experience. You are still in the same boat, trying to explain that you will only get better.

aidan_walsh

Ok guys, points have been made.