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MCOS - you're in the well

  • 04-03-2009 11:02am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,584 ✭✭✭✭


    I curious as to what makes you tick.

    Why did you get into triathlon?

    What background did you come from?

    Do you feel doing more races is more important than doing a few races well?

    Why are you rushing into doing a HIM in your first year?

    What injuries have you had so far this season?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,492 ✭✭✭Woddle


    Good choice Tunney

    What level did you reach at rowing ?
    Will you get a tat of the IM when you complete one :D ?
    How do you manage to fit your training in and stay motivated when you seem to have a bit of a hectic life between studying, your kid, OH and all that ?
    What age group are you in (within 5 years if you don't want to be specific) ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,503 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    You obviously know that you could get much better PBs in running races, if you dedicated your time to running. Does this ever frustrate you?

    Once you have reached your landmark triathlon target, do you think you will continue to participate in triathlons?

    If athletes participate in athletics events, why don't triathletes participate in triathletics events? Is it just to be different? :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,095 ✭✭✭--amadeus--


    Good choice :)

    I would put you into the "naturally talented athlete" category - you reached a very high standard in a tough sport having come to it late and are now turning in respectable running times even though it's not your main focus. You've also made rapid progress in the other tri disciplines. Do you ever get frustrated that you didn't progress further? Or that you came to rowing too late, could have been internationally competitive for example?

    Whats your favourite Winnie The Poo character? Because I have you marked as a definite Tigger type :D

    Your OH is just starting out at training (and doing well :) ) how do you balance encouraging her with being realistic about progress. My OH refuses to exercise and part of the reason seems to be that she thinks marathon intensity and volumes of training are normal and is intimidated by that. How do you maintain a sense of perspective for your OH and her program in comparison to yours?

    Is MCOS jnr showing sporty signs? What sports would you encorage him to do?

    When are you doing a full IM and when are you going sub 3?

    Most admired sportspeople?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    tunney wrote: »
    I curious as to what makes you tick.

    Man, you picked the craziest day I've had in work so far this year to put me in the well! But its the essence of what makes me tick... a challenge :D
    tunney wrote: »
    Why did you get into triathlon? .

    I used to think Triathlon was for swimmers and I couldn't swim up until late last year. Also I had never considered cycling. I love running but I need more variety to my exercise diet than just running. The idea of picking another Marathon ached me as it involved well.. mostly just running. A friend of mine I look up to suggested Triathlon, I researched it and bought a book and loved the challenge it provides for me. Also a chance for me to make some new friends.
    tunney wrote: »
    What background did you come from? .

    Rugby, a sub 11 sec 100m translated into me scoring lots of tries in the corner during good ole school days. Tried track for a while and trained with a decathlete. I could run a bit, and throw things but I absolutely sucked at hurdles :o I did Judo for a while and won some stuff with it. Played basketballl for a summer and though shorter than most of the guys, I was very physical and could dunk so they kept me around. I met a Rowing guy once and had a debate with him over which was a better sport. At the time I was defending rugby to the hills!

    Apart from this My brother is a personal trainer, my mother has taught fitness all her life and is probably fitter than me, My Dad ran a couple of Marathons and my sister cycled 8000km across Europe a couple of years ago. Safe to say its in the family :)
    tunney wrote: »
    Do you feel doing more races is more important than doing a few races well? .

    Interesting question. I'll give every race a lash but I have A goals that I approach more sensibly. IMHO I've heard some Triathletes complain about how long the TRI season is. They should try rowing. First Head of the River (TT) is usually late Sept/Oct and the National champs are July. If you are representing you could be going from Sept to Aug! If these Duathlons were not on I'd be bored waiting for my first Tri already!
    tunney wrote: »
    Why are you rushing into doing a HIM in your first year? .
    Kilkee was originally my 'big' challenge but I am confident I could get myself in shape to finish that. To Keep going for 6 hours though, now that had a scary factor for me. I wanted a challenge where the challenge would be to 'Finish'. It is also the motivation to build some real endurance
    tunney wrote: »
    What injuries have you had so far this season?
    Just cramps in my calf in the last Duathlon, had me out for a few days last week.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    Woddle wrote: »
    Good choice Tunney
    Woddle wrote: »
    What level did you reach at rowing ?

    I really only committed 100% to a 2 season stint that lead to a couple of Nat Champ Pots with my Uni crew. I went to trials that year too but being a latecomer to the sport I hadn't learned to scull yet :o I later fell into the warm Nagaragawa river from my first scull outing in Japan of all places!

    For those of you that don't know, sweep rowing is one long oar like in a 8+, sculling is with an oar in each hand. Most juniors learn to scull first as it is better for your back and teaches you the best technique.
    Woddle wrote: »
    Will you get a tat of the IM when you complete one :D ?

    Not sure about the mdot. Maybe something else. Definitely something though :D
    Woddle wrote: »
    How do you manage to fit your training in and stay motivated when you seem to have a bit of a hectic life between studying, your kid, OH and all that ?

    Since my Son came along I've Had to get used to early morning empty stomach training. I've learned some important life lessons about balancing your time between you values in life. By that I mean I've gotten the balance very wrong before. I'm currently studying to be a Life Coach which helping me to have a healthy perspective on things. The big challenge for Tri is getting bike sessions in as they need 2-4 hours. Something always has to move to accomodate something else. I've noticed that with more regular races lately I've needed more sleep than usual. A training plan has the kid, OH and College pencilled in before the training bits :) Whats left over is what I can use to train. What motivates me is that the sport thing is for me, its my freedom. It keeps me level and positive.
    Woddle wrote: »
    What age group are you in (within 5 years if you don't want to be specific) ?
    I'm 31 on Saturday :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    You obviously know that you could get much better PBs in running races, if you dedicated your time to running. Does this ever frustrate you?

    No. I'm not done with running by a long shot :D
    Once you have reached your landmark triathlon target, do you think you will continue to participate in triathlons?

    TBH I can only take it as it comes. I love swimming, cycling and running in their own right and they are things I can see myself doing forever. I love the variety and indeed how they complement each other. I can safely say the bike miles have helped my running pbs and the swimming kms have helped me to stay relatively injury free. IM, Ultras, Adventure all appeal to me too. I love the fact that I've just discovered all of this.
    If athletes participate in athletics events, why don't triathletes participate in triathletics events? Is it just to be different? :)

    Do you mean Tri people doing swim only, bike only and run only events? can you clarify this question thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    Good choice :)

    I would put you into the "naturally talented athlete" category - you reached a very high standard in a tough sport having come to it late and are now turning in respectable running times even though it's not your main focus. You've also made rapid progress in the other tri disciplines. Do you ever get frustrated that you didn't progress further? Or that you came to rowing too late, could have been internationally competitive for example?

    Good question. Sometimes I do wonder when I look back. Would I have had more success or competed internationally if I had stuck with it, got a good coach, disciplined myself etc... ? The short answer is NO. I'm grateful for the experiences I've had and I had a great time during those phases of my life. I miss Rugby sometimes but I played a season of Tag last summer and really enjoyed it. I miss rowing sometimes too but its always an option for me and Its a great XT option. Rowing takes up an extraordinary amount of time and depends on tides etc... The Tri challenge is more than a good enough stimulation for me :)
    Whats your favourite Winnie The Poo character? Because I have you marked as a definite Tigger type :D
    Tigger! What made you say Tigger? you were spot on btw!
    Your OH is just starting out at training (and doing well :) ) how do you balance encouraging her with being realistic about progress. My OH refuses to exercise and part of the reason seems to be that she thinks marathon intensity and volumes of training are normal and is intimidated by that. How do you maintain a sense of perspective for your OH and her program in comparison to yours?

    I get it wrong sometimes you know and can annoy her! Overall though I look at things from her perspective. From that perspective I am in the 'looney' category and most of her peers would agree. A dinner table with my family around it is a tough one to sit at if you are against exercising!! I try not to force my value of sport on her. She is a good encouragement factor for me at times. She washes my gear, asks me how my swim TT went, handed me a bottle of lucozade at mile 18 of the DM, sometimes pushes me out of the bed when my alarm goes off at silly o clock on a saturday morning etc... I try to encourage anything she does in return. I'm learning to suggest and ask rather than advise ;)
    Is MCOS jnr showing sporty signs? What sports would you encorage him to do?

    Ha ha I had to get him 'runners like Daddy's' for his birthday recently and we race each other down the hall regularly. I got him a bike for christmas and he gives it loads when he is on it that is until he sees something interesting in the ditch or that the cat is playing with and gets off to examine... I'm going to get him swimming lessons this summer as that is something I wish I had as a kid. I took him to the pool a lot last year and he loved it. I'll encourage him no matter what he chooses to do and try not to push him in the direction of my bias. I can't help but to put a rugby ball in his hands though :D
    When are you doing a full IM and when are you going sub 3?

    I like the certainty of that 'when' as apposed to 'if' or 'could'! Both are definitely on the cards but I'm not sure when. Both within the next 4 years I'd imagine
    Most admired sportspeople?

    Sir Stephen Redgrave, Michael Johnson, Jonah Lomu, Haile, Carl Lewis


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭Funkyzeit


    MCOS wrote: »
    Carl Lewis

    for shame !!! ;)

    You have a spare hour in the day - do you
    a) Run
    B) Swim
    c) Cycle
    d) Veg out

    Have you joined any Tri cubs (i.e Limerick?)

    Have you any non-Tri goals this year (eg W200, swim challenges etc)

    Jaffa cake - Biscuit or Cake?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    Funkyzeit wrote: »
    for shame !!! ;)

    You have a spare hour in the day - do you
    a) Run
    B) Swim
    c) Cycle
    d) Veg out

    Have you joined any Tri cubs (i.e Limerick?)

    Have you any non-Tri goals this year (eg W200, swim challenges etc)

    Jaffa cake - Biscuit or Cake?

    Spare hour - Run probably
    Yep - Limerick Tri Club, great club very friendly
    Thinking about W200, swimming is enough of a challenge already! oh and get a 6 pack!

    They are Biscuits other wise they would be in the cake isle... no?! Not too mad on them anyway, they don't dunk well :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭pgibbo


    Hi MCOS,
    Given that you are well and truely into the swing of things training wise - what sport that you have done do you rate as the toughest? Being an ex-oarsman, mediocre at that, I know that all rowers reckon rowing is one of the toughest sports out there. What do you think based on where you are at the moment? You can always change your mind after your first tri, half IM or IM! :D

    Some good advice above on keeping things balanced.

    How important to you think cross training and core work is in keeping you injury free?

    Given the opportunity, what Olympic event would you compete in?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭Funkyzeit


    MCOS wrote: »
    They are Biscuits o :D

    Au contraire ! ;)

    wiki: Under UK law, no Value Added Tax (VAT) is charged on biscuits and cakes — they are "zero rated". Chocolate covered biscuits, however, are subject to VAT, currently 15%. McVities classed its Jaffa Cakes as cakes, but in 1991, this was challenged by Her Majesty's Customs and Excise and the case ended up before the courts.[9] This may have been because Jaffa Cakes are about the same size and shape as some types of biscuit. A question that the court asked itself was "what criteria should be used to class something as a cake?"

    McVities defended its classification of Jaffa Cakes as cakes. In doing so it produced a giant Jaffa Cake to illustrate that its Jaffa Cakes were simply miniature cakes.

    McVities argued that a distinction between cakes and biscuits is, inter alia, that biscuits would normally be expected to go soft when stale, whereas cakes would normally be expected to go hard. It was demonstrated to the Tribunal that Jaffa Cakes become hard when stale. Other factors taken into account by the Chairman, Mr Potter QC, included the name, ingredients, texture, size, packaging, marketing, presentation, appeal to children, and manufacturing process. Contrary to a commonly held belief, whether something is considered a 'luxury item' is not a test for VAT purposes.

    Mr Potter ruled that the Jaffa Cake is a cake. McVities therefore won the case and VAT is not paid on Jaffa Cakes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 918 ✭✭✭MarieC


    What does the ergo mean that you refer to alot?

    Aside from your amazing motivation, committment and determination, how the hell do you keep going??? :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    pgibbo wrote: »
    Hi MCOS,
    Given that you are well and truely into the swing of things training wise - what sport that you have done do you rate as the toughest? Being an ex-oarsman, mediocre at that, I know that all rowers reckon rowing is one of the toughest sports out there. What do you think based on where you are at the moment? You can always change your mind after your first tri, half IM or IM! :D

    your surname and tribes heritage does not siggest mediocrity pgibbo :P Ok, I have always been a bit sports mad and I have competed at sprints, javelin, rugby, judo, rowing, basketball and I've done a marathon. Pick of the bunch is Rowing by a country mile and thats trying not to be biased. It just demand a huge commitment of time, money if you scull, endurance, technique, physical and mental strength. Athletes with great spacial awareness, brilliant hand eye coordination, mental agility and oodles of fast twitch muscle fibre can coast their way through a ball sport but with rowing in the middle of an eight you know that every man is toturing himself for the same reason, tuned to a rhythm and with his back turned to the finish line. If you suddently stopped you could get the end of a 14ft oar in the spine with a few horse power behind it. I've seen some savage rugby tackles but I once saw a guy lifted clean out of the boat and chucked into cold early morning january water because he caught a crab. This is where he inserted the blade into the water at an angle and it travelled downwards instead of purchasing and levering the boat past. The result of one end of a 14ft stick going down is that that other end must go up. His feet were tied into the boat and he held on to the oar. He was thrown clean out. I was in the stroke seat a few positions up the boat and felt the shudder. I didn't know what had happened until I saw his head in the water beside me! On my first ever rowing event whaich was about a 10 minute TT at full pelt in an 8+, I caught 3 crabs! Although I miraculously stayed in the boat, I was very bruised and single handedly cost us the race!

    The most pain I have ever felt in an event though was the last 7 miles of the Connemarathon last year. I actually cried with the pain of carrying the cramps in the quads for 1.5 hours. I learned some lesson that day :o

    Some good advice above on keeping things balanced. [/quote]

    Thanks. Here is a tool that everyone can use to guauge the balance in their lives. Its called the wheel of life. (a black and white version works better) Sorry Mod that its so large, I didn't know how to resize. Basically you mark (or colour in crayon - whatever your style:) ) a point out of 10 for each section of your life. Be as completely honest with yourself as you can. Mark every section then colour it in and get the shape. If lets say you marked 8/10 on each section your wheel of life would roll nice and smoothly and this would be a metaphor for your life. It reality most of us will have a bumpy ride of sorts going on. If you score 9/10 on some sections what are you prepared to do about the sections you scored 5 or less on? What can you do to honour your values in each area of your life to a sense of fulfillment for yourself. Ok, enough of that... back on topic :)

    wheel-of-life.jpg
    pgibbo wrote: »
    How important to you think cross training and core work is in keeping you injury free?

    IMHO XT or S&C as tunney puts it and core are an essential part of your training regime. I only do core once a week after some upper body resistance I have some good DOMS right now from a change in that session on Monday. I need to do core more often though. Years ago I was disciplined enough to do 10 mins of core each morning when I got out of bed. I had a less busy life and fewer responsibilities then but now I'm just making excuses... I don't get many injuries and I'm not a very lucky person, so the XT session must have something to do with it! I used to do a XT session once a week training for the marathon too.
    pgibbo wrote: »
    Given the opportunity, what Olympic event would you compete in?

    and if I had the talent... Decathlon


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    Funkyzeit wrote: »
    Au contraire ! ;)

    wiki: Under UK law, no Value Added Tax (VAT) is charged on biscuits and cakes — they are "zero rated". Chocolate covered biscuits, however, are subject to VAT, currently 15%. McVities classed its Jaffa Cakes as cakes, but in 1991, this was challenged by Her Majesty's Customs and Excise and the case ended up before the courts.[9] This may have been because Jaffa Cakes are about the same size and shape as some types of biscuit. A question that the court asked itself was "what criteria should be used to class something as a cake?"

    McVities defended its classification of Jaffa Cakes as cakes. In doing so it produced a giant Jaffa Cake to illustrate that its Jaffa Cakes were simply miniature cakes.

    McVities argued that a distinction between cakes and biscuits is, inter alia, that biscuits would normally be expected to go soft when stale, whereas cakes would normally be expected to go hard. It was demonstrated to the Tribunal that Jaffa Cakes become hard when stale. Other factors taken into account by the Chairman, Mr Potter QC, included the name, ingredients, texture, size, packaging, marketing, presentation, appeal to children, and manufacturing process. Contrary to a commonly held belief, whether something is considered a 'luxury item' is not a test for VAT purposes.

    Mr Potter ruled that the Jaffa Cake is a cake. McVities therefore won the case and VAT is not paid on Jaffa Cakes.

    Haha good refute Funkyzeit especially the 'cakes go hard' point ;) Which is more important in the industry though, a tecnicality or consumer perspective? Send 10 consumers into the biscuit isle to pick up a packet of jaffa cakes and ask them each that question?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭shels4ever


    How good were you in Judo ? What level did you reach? What was your fav move?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭pgibbo


    your surname and tribes heritage does not siggest mediocrity pgibbo

    LOL....You are getting me mixed up with the very talentented NUIG oarsman that shares the same name as me. He is much younger than I and from what I hear, a damn lot more talented! :D I regret being a lazy git and not applying myself more when I was rowing. Still, all that training stood to me and has made me a wee bit competitive! :) Have never seen anyone ripped from a boat by catching a crab. That boat must have been fairly travelling.

    What have you planned, if you have thought that far ahead, for after the tri season completes this year?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    MarieC wrote: »
    What does the ergo mean that you refer to alot?

    A Concept 2 ergometer rower the single best piece of gym equipment there is , here is their website http://www.concept2.com/us/default.asp they have plenty of tips on correct tecnique for using it and XT sessions etc...

    rowing_erg.jpg
    MarieC wrote: »
    Aside from your amazing motivation, committment and determination, how the hell do you keep going??? :eek:

    I believe so much in exercise that I feel guilty if I don't do it... so aside from those things ( shucks :o)... Guilt!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    shels4ever wrote: »
    How good were you in Judo ? What level did you reach? What was your fav move?


    I didn't really stick with it long enough to become good at it or to reinforce the moves. I did a good few Kyu level demos and fought and beat some 2nd dan guy so I was doing ok at the time. I won most of my fights with choke holds (I originally trained in combat judo finger locks and mad stuff). I remember the first ippon I got with a pillow choke hold (the name escapes me now) and I got a bit too into it and squeezed too hard :o I used to prefer grappling to throws, knee locks would get a fairly hasty tap out. Anything o-nage (stomach throw) was a good throw for me. I got into a tussle with one of my brother's friend at a christmas party last year while a bit drunk and launched him ontop of the christmas tree with one of those, all in good spirits! The training was tough, things like 30 sec grapples with 8-10 different people. By the last one you could be tied in a knot by an 8 year old :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    pgibbo wrote: »

    What have you planned, if you have thought that far ahead, for after the tri season completes this year?

    6 weeks of just running to prep for the DM. I'll see what shape I'm in then but I'd love to get sub 3'15


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Abhainn


    Well MCOS a few more to keep you on your toes:

    On average how many hours per week do you spend training?
    Whats the model of bike you currently have? Are you satisfied with it?
    What food do you occasionally pig out on?
    When you compete in tri / duo races is it to get a PB or to finish as high up a position in the field as possible?
    Guinness or lager?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭shels4ever


    MCOS wrote: »
    I didn't really stick with it long enough to become good at it or to reinforce the moves. I did a good few Kyu level demos and fought and beat some 2nd dan guy so I was doing ok at the time. I won most of my fights with choke holds (I originally trained in combat judo finger locks and mad stuff). I remember the first ippon I got with a pillow choke hold (the name escapes me now) and I got a bit too into it and squeezed too hard :o I used to prefer grappling to throws, knee locks would get a fairly hasty tap out. Anything o-nage (stomach throw) was a good throw for me. I got into a tussle with one of my brother's friend at a christmas party last year while a bit drunk and launched him ontop of the christmas tree with one of those, all in good spirits! The training was tough, things like 30 sec grapples with 8-10 different people. By the last one you could be tied in a knot by an 8 year old :)
    Tell me about it when I was training for the nationals we were doing 6 X 1 mins , Used to be on my knees at the end but fitness levels were great. Was a big fan of tiatoshi or leg sweeps myself, and suffered from a few bad strangles in my time...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭cfitz


    What's your favourite martial arts movie?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    Abhainn wrote: »
    Well MCOS a few more to keep you on your toes:
    Abhainn wrote: »
    average how many hours per week do you spend training?
    8-10. 8 if I don't get a weekend cycle in, 10 if I do
    Abhainn wrote: »
    What is the model of bike you currently have? Are you satisfied with it?

    Giant SCR1 2008 55.5cm http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/Cycle/7/Giant_SCR_1_Road_Bike/5360037570/ Its an entry level road bike and does the job. I really just needed something to get me through a season of Tri and that I could get some speed out of. I think it is a good bike for long hilly training cycles but lacks a bit of zipp for a TT. I was happy with my bike splits in the Duathlons so far so we will see how I do in the Tris. I've done about 1300km so far on it and I have no major complaints other than the 34/50 isn't really big enough with a nice tailwind behind you. I'll admit though that I have had dreams of a P2C dura ace after a guy showing me his recently! I have taken loads of advice on board about bikes and I'm learning a lot quickly. The best advice really is only spend the money on a bling TT bike if you have the engine for it. I passed a fair few bikes worth 6 times my bike in the Duathlons. I'll be able to make a more informed decision on another bike this time next year :)
    Abhainn wrote: »
    What food do you occasionally pig out on?
    Biscuits are a particular weakness. I eat them by the packet. Chocolate too. Love crunchy peanut butter also, I'd eat it with a spoon :)
    Abhainn wrote: »
    When you compete in tri / duo races is it to get a PB or to finish as high up a position in the field as possible?

    Position. The higher the better. My first 2 Tris are pool swims though so I'll see what I can do against my pb for each of those. A certain DAVE_K is entering a few of the same events I am so it that will be interesting :D He is a savage swimmer though so I will have a lot of ground to make up. I think his goals are beyond me in my first season to be honest.
    Abhainn wrote: »
    Guinness or lager?

    If I drank a pint of Guinness I'd just curl up and go for a sleep! I don't really drink much anymore. Bottle of Corona or glass of cabernet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    cfitz wrote: »
    What's your favourite martial arts movie?

    Easy - Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. I'm a visual person so this was eye candy for me. Beautiful movie by Ang Lee.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    shels4ever wrote: »
    Was a big fan of tiatoshi or leg sweeps myself, and suffered from a few bad strangles in my time...

    leg sweeps... hated those, you would have kicked my ass long before I could strangle you :cool: ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭shels4ever


    MCOS wrote: »
    leg sweeps... hated those, you would have kicked my ass long before I could strangle you :cool: ;)

    That was my thinking there too ;)


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