new wheels

jebidiah

was thinking about getting new wheels on my trek 1400.

still got the Bontrager Select wheels it came with, maybe a year and a half ago. not really using it for commuting anymore since i got my fixie.

any suggestions for around 200€ or would i want to go a bit higher than that?

Raam

Fulcrum Racing 7
Pretty good entry wheels. I have a pair on my training bike. Cost about 140 or so.

Review
http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/components/wheel-sets/product/racing-7-wheelset-20204?CPN=RSS&SOURCE=BRGENHOME

Sellers
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=33350
http://www.probikekit.com/display.php?code=W0004

blorg

I saw a pair of Open Pros on Ultegra hubs in Joe Daly's for €239. These are very nice smooth rolling wheels and around 100-150g lighter than the Bontrager Select. Probably the best all-round for that sort of money.

What are you looking for in a wheelset- lighter? You might need to get a bit spendier if you want lighter, although there are a few options like the Planet X Model B in your price range, or the Xero XR-1 for a bit more.

To be honest though €200 is still very much entry level and not much more than the cost of the wheels you have (I had Bontrager Selects myself and found them very solid and reliable.)

blorg

The Fulcrums are decent entry level wheels (as are Mavic Aksiums, which I will have a brand new pair of to flog shortly thanks to the R-SYS recall ) but to a certain extent I am not sure there is much point in buying them to replace your Bontrager Selects, they will not be much of an upgrade.

jebidiah

blorg wrote: »

The Fulcrums are decent entry level wheels (as are Mavic Aksiums, which I will have a brand new pair of to flog shortly thanks to the R-SYS recall ) but to a certain extent I am not sure there is much point in buying them to replace your Bontrager Selects, they will not be much of an upgrade.

i was expecting that! more saving so!!

im fairly comfortable with that bike really, ive no intention of upgrading the whole thing for a while, id just like to knock a bit of weight off it and the first thing i thought of was new wheels

AstraMonti

for 300euro (±50) what will you suggest?

E@gle.

AstraMonti wrote: »

for 300euro (±50) what will you suggest?

€360 for a pair of these

ROK ON

Have Fulcrum 5's. May upgrade - Spend maybe 500notes.
What do I buy?
I weigh about 15st - is that a consideration?

E@gle.

ROK ON wrote: »

Have Fulcrum 5's. May upgrade - Spend maybe 500notes.
What do I buy?
I weigh about 15st - is that a consideration?

If ya wanna stick with fulcrums the racing 3 and racing 1 are a sturdy wheel mavin kysrium sl a good wheel as well

short circuit

Can anyone tell me how much do the Open Pros on ultegra hubs weigh ...

At 250euro ... if they are in anyway light ... I don't think you can beat the strength, weight, cost combo

blorg

short circuit wrote: »

Can anyone tell me how much do the Open Pros on ultegra hubs weigh ...

Mine weigh 1,800g, actual weight. 1,000g rear, 800g front. 32 spokes. I use them for touring.

AstraMonti

Mavic Ksyrium Elite vs Fulcrum Racing 3?

TinyExplosions

AstraMonti wrote: »

Mavic Ksyrium Elite vs Fulcrum Racing 3?

Fulcrum, cos I have 'em

niceonetom

Anyone have any opinions on these? The manufacturer claims 1482g for the pair - which is very light for the money. Maybe too light though...

AstraMonti

niceonetom wrote: »

Anyone have any opinions on these? The manufacturer claims 1482g for the pair - which is very light for the money. Maybe too light though...

Too light you mean they might be damaged easily on bumps and potholes?

niceonetom

AstraMonti wrote: »

Too light you mean they might be damaged easily on bumps and potholes?

Well, yes. They're light. They're cheap(ish). By process of elimination that means they must be made of papier maché.

Strong, light, cheap. Pick two. That's the conventional wisdom in these matters.

Or they could be brilliant wheels. I don't know. I shall google.

My current wheels actually are made out of papier-maché - I can tell from the amount of brake rub when I stand while climbing - so I think stiffness might be more of a premium than 50g of mass. Stiffness inspires more confidence while descending too. And I like descending. Hmmm...

cantalach

blorg wrote: »

I saw a pair of Open Pros on Ultegra hubs in Joe Daly's for €239. These are very nice smooth rolling wheels and around 100-150g lighter than the Bontrager Select. Probably the best all-round for that sort of money.

That's a very sweet price! Ceramic or standard rims? Are the spokes DT or Sapim or something else? Does Joe Daly build 'em well?

cantalach

jebidiah wrote: »

was thinking about getting new wheels on my trek 1400.

still got the Bontrager Select wheels it came with, maybe a year and a half ago. not really using it for commuting anymore since i got my fixie.

any suggestions for around 200€ or would i want to go a bit higher than that?

It's worth factoring in how much you weigh because some wheels are more suitable for heavy riders than others. Campagnolo wheels are only rated up to 82 kg riders (it says so in black and white in the manual that comes with them). Some manufacturers even produce standard and heavy variants of their wheels. Easton have the EA 90 SLX for the small skinny lads and the EA 90 SL for the big lads. HED supply their Ardennes and Bastogne wheels in standard and 'stallion' variants. In general, I'd probably be wary of a very low spoke count if you're a bit of a clydesdale. Not that any of the above models are in your price range - I'm just mentioning them to make the point that rider weight is important.

short circuit

blorg wrote: »

Mine weigh 1,800g, actual weight. 1,000g rear, 800g front. 32 spokes. I use them for touring.

At that weight, its probably lighter than quite a few entry level wheels at that price ...

Chips Lovell

cantalach wrote: »

ICampagnolo wheels are only rated up to 82 kg riders (it says so in black and white in the manual that comes with them).

There's no weight limit on Campag wheels. What the manual does say is that riders over 82kg should check their wheels more frequently.

sy

cantalach wrote: »

It's worth factoring in how much you weigh because some wheels are more suitable for heavy riders than others....

Agree with cantalach. However at the lower end of the market weight of rider doesn't seem to be an issue as entry level wheels are generally strong. These Easton EA50's get good reviews at about £230. I recently bought the Easton EA90 SLX's £379 ( I'm 67 kg) but waiting to get to the big hills to really try them out.They are silky smooth and very light for the price.

cantalach

el tonto wrote: »

There's no weight limit on Campag wheels. What the manual does say is that riders over 82kg should check their wheels more frequently.

Perhaps the current crop as sold in Ireland. But the 2006 Zonda and Eurus models as they were sold in Australia have "rider weight limit: 82 kg" in bold letters.

blorg

cantalach wrote: »

That's a very sweet price! Ceramic or standard rims? Are the spokes DT or Sapim or something else? Does Joe Daly build 'em well?

Standard rims. I am not sure what the spokes are, also not sure if they get built in Joe Daly's, they may get built by the distributor. Mine have held up well certainly.

@short_circuit: it is indeed lighter than many entry-level race wheels and I reckon they are smoother and more comfortable. Another advantage is that they are easily rebuildable with standard components.

trek climber

sy wrote: »

Agree with cantalach. However at the lower end of the market weight of rider doesn't seem to be an issue as entry level wheels are generally strong. These Easton EA50's get good reviews at about £230. I recently bought the Easton EA90 SLX's £379 ( I'm 67 kg) but waiting to get to the big hills to really try them out.They are silky smooth and very light for the price.

+1 for the Easton EA90 SLX's, I have mine now for over a year and have had no problems at all and they have seen some "poor" roads up this part of the country. Chainreaction have them on sale at the minute for 428 euro(campag only)

niceonetom

trek climber wrote: »

+1 for the Easton EA90 SLX's, I have mine now for over a year and have had no problems at all and they have seen some "poor" roads up this part of the country. Chainreaction have them on sale at the minute for 428 euro(campag only)

Come close to buying those a several occasions. I keep having to remind myself about "the current climate" etc. but I reckon one of these days my resolve will weaken. I bloody hope so anyway.

Do you find them a bit flexy or are they nice and stiff? Are you, eh, generously proportioned or whippet thin or what? I wonder whether I (at about 73kg at the moment, but I'm working on it) would be better off going for the SL over the SLX - I'd be using them for everything, not special occasions, so maybe a few extra spokes might be wiser.

trek climber

niceonetom wrote: »

Come close to buying those a several occasions. I keep having to remind myself about "the current climate" etc. but I reckon one of these days my resolve will weaken. I bloody hope so anyway.

Do you find them a bit flexy or are they nice and stiff? Are you, eh, generously proportioned or whippet thin or what? I wonder whether I (at about 73kg at the moment, but I'm working on it) would be better off going for the SL over the SLX - I'd be using them for everything, not special occasions, so maybe a few extra spokes might be wiser.

Have found them to be nice and stiff, definitlely not whippet thin somewhere about 75kg at moment-I think