Guns N Roses to play Ireland?

Motley Crue

A source close to the bone has told me today that apparently Metallica's move to a different Irish venue was not something taken lightly - it was done to ensure a license could still be granted for another major Irish concert due to take place.

Rumours are flying around this contact's office that Guns N Roses are due to perform in Ireland this year having been announced as headliner's of a festival in Spain this week. The venue move on Metallica's part was done so that Punchestown could be used for this concert - since the reasoning was that Metallica already played in Ireland last August and therefore would not attract as big a crowd as GNR, who have not played in Ireland since 2006.

They said the concert may not be as late in the year as Metallica's concert, but will happen after the Def Leppard 02 concert on June 12th.

GNR are apparently top secret about their touring plans at the moment and have refused to allow promoters or press agencies to release any solid details. It also stands to reason that unless a full European touring schedule is put in place Axl Rose may decide not to tour at all.

G'N'R attract a bigger cowd than metallica?? Do'nt know about that.

Mushy

Firstly, even if it is Metallica umpttenth time here, they'll attract a bigger crowd

Secondly, Metallica were NEVER scheduled to play Punchestown, it was Fairyhouse. Thats the second time I've seen you say that Motley...whats going on?

ShawnRaven

rarnes1 wrote: »

G'N'R attract a bigger cowd than metallica?? Do'nt know about that.

Happened three years ago at Download at the same venue.

superweld

it was confirmed that all rumours about gnr playing this summer are false.

not saying there won't be a tour but the spain one was confirmed false as well as any other 'confirmed' ones.


"Beta confirmed to me that all European concert dates in June 2009 that have been posted at various websites, including Spain, are fake"

quote from Eric Romano, owner of mygnr and credited in chinese democracy inlay who is credible and in contact with gnr. beta is axls p.a

Mushy

ShawnRaven wrote: »

Happened three years ago at Download at the same venue.

Didn't Metallica sell out their day?If memory serves correctly, I think they did, so no chance of another band getting bigger crowd.

Mushy

Mushy wrote: »

Firstly, even if it is Metallica umpttenth time here, they'll attract a bigger crowd

Secondly, Metallica were NEVER scheduled to play Punchestown, it was Fairyhouse. Thats the second time I've seen you say that Motley...whats going on?

Metallica are playing Marley
http://www.metallica.com/page.asp?id=13367

ShawnRaven

Mushy wrote: »

Didn't Metallica sell out their day?If memory serves correctly, I think they did, so no chance of another band getting bigger crowd.

I don't think either dates completely sold out, which is probably why Download never made it back here.

I remember reading that GNR had the bigger crowd, could have been utter bollocks though, I wasn't there for the Metallica day, but the GNR turnout was pretty impressive.

chin_grin

Could it be that FNM are playing?

I would be extremely annoyed if some whiny ginger a$$hole got bumped up the pecking order over Metallica! Although saying that I'm not very enthused about going to Metallica this year. I've seen them so many times in the last few.......it's just lost it's pizazz!

RonMexico

It will be either GNR or Faith No More. Both would be the ****, a repeat of Slane back in the day. Fingers Crossed.

Nevyn

{Pff it's not G'N'R it's axel and his back up band.

brendansmith

I saw em few year back, the guitarist played 'I am beautiful' by Christina Agulera on his axe.



It sucked

superweld

Thaedydal wrote: »

{Pff it's not G'N'R it's axel and his back up band.

Get over it :rolleyes:

whiterob81

Mushy wrote: »

Didn't Metallica sell out their day?If memory serves correctly, I think they did, so no chance of another band getting bigger crowd.

No, they didn't. I got my ticket on the day and there was still a good few left. only got it at the last minute because i wasn't too sure if i'd get to go.

they did sell out marlay park last year though

Fad

superweld wrote: »

Get over it :rolleyes:

Get over what, she's right:)

Can he even sing anymore?

superweld

Fad wrote: »

Get over what, she's right:)

Can he even sing anymore?

can he even sing anymore? i take it you haven't heard chinese democracy or seen any of the tour in 06. if you had you wouldn't ask such a question.

she's right? if you have chinese democracy you'll see the name Guns N' Roses so it is a band called guns n' roses.

is it the orignal band? nope. have we known slash, duff, izzy, steven and co. are not in the band anymore for donkeys years? yes! hence get over it.

it's not your normal situation but it is what it is. the new album is fantastic in my opinion but it's that sort of attitude that is bringing it down.

Malice

RonMexico wrote: »

It will be either GNR or Faith No More. Both would be the ****, a repeat of Slane back in the day. Fingers Crossed.

Only if My Little Funhouse reform and play as well .

ShawnRaven

malice_ wrote: »

Only if My Little Funhouse reform and play as well .

And that's probably very highly unlikely. Shame really because Standunder was a f*cking awesome album.

ShawnRaven

Fad wrote: »

Get over what, she's right:)

To a point, however quite a lot of their current lineup has lasted twice as long as both of the well more known lineups put together. So i can understand superweld's response, i just probably wouldn't have left it like that the way he did.

Can he even sing anymore?

Haven't heard the new one then?
Look, Chinese Democracy isn't Appetite II or Illusion III, but that doesn't stop it from being a good album, and it is a good album. But hey, don't let that get in the way of some good old fashioned Axl bashing because the Slash fanboys feel so hard done by because a reconciliation hasn't taken place yet. :rolleyes:

Fad

superweld wrote: »

can he even sing anymore? i take it you haven't heard chinese democracy or seen any of the tour in 06. if you had you wouldn't ask such a question.

she's right? if you have chinese democracy you'll see the name Guns N' Roses so it is a band called guns n' roses.

They're about as Guns and Roses as the current band touring under the name The Misfits are The Misfits:pac:

Sorry let me rephrase my singing question, can he sing while not being digitally assisted? Doubtful, I shudder to think what he'd be like live.

Slash was a great player yes, but he wasnt all of the band, I get that. What I do not get is when you eliminate everyone except the singer (Or is there still another member I dunno).

I have heard Chinese Democracy, its not good, not bad either, its not GnR either though, Shackler's Revenge as a example..............

Shawnraven wrote:

To a point, however quite a lot of their current lineup has lasted twice as long as both of the well more known lineups put together.

I dont really call 13 years of near inactivity (I said NEAR inactivity, but the very occasional live show really doesnt qualify them as active), something that could considered stable. Also didnt he go through a few band member during that time? (Im open to correction there)

Borneo Fnctn

Fad wrote: »

Get over what, she's right:)

Can he even sing anymore?

Chinese Democracy is a very good album. Axl Rose is a c*nt alright, but he always was. If you listened to Chinese Democracy you'd know he can still sing. In fact, I prefer it to anything Velvet Revolver or Metallica have ever done.

ShawnRaven

Fad wrote: »

I dont really call 13 years of near inactivity (I said NEAR inactivity, but the very occasional live show really doesnt qualify them as active), something that could considered stable. Also didnt he go through a few band member during that time? (Im open to correction there)

Trust me, they were still more stable than they were during the Illusion tour, by the time that was finished they could barely be in the same room as each other, but they were still knocking out singles and touring, so i guess that makes them a stable band.

They didn't go through that many members. Buckethead was there for a while until a couple of years ago, Paul Tobias was given the boot, but Stinson, Brain, and Finck have been there for a while now, Dizzy Reed's been there since about 1991, sounds like the majority of the band to me, i could be wrong too and also open to correction.

ShawnRaven

jackpalance wrote: »

Chinese Democracy is a very good album. Axl Rose is a c*nt alright, but he always was. If you listened to Chinese Democracy you'd know he can still sing. In fact, I prefer it to anything Velvet Revolver or Metallica have ever done.

I'll agree with you on the Velvet Revolver think, i like Contraband eventhough it is highly over-rated and Libertad was pish. I can't fully agree on it being better than anything Metallica ever done, especially their first three albums.

But hey, this is boards, it's not the Dail and we're not all yes men.

Fad

ShawnRaven wrote: »

Trust me, they were still more stable than they were during the Illusion tour, by the time that was finished they could barely be in the same room as each other, but they were still knocking out singles and touring, so i guess that makes them a stable band.

They didn't go through that many members. Buckethead was there for a while until a couple of years ago, Paul Tobias was given the boot, but Stinson, Brain, and Finck have been there for a while now, Dizzy Reed's been there since about 1991, sounds like the majority of the band to me, i could be wrong too and also open to correction.

Im not going to attempt to talk about GnR when I was a year and a month old , Id be bull****ting.

Finck is back? Wiki is too confusing for this!

No Finck is in NIN now.........

(Listening to an album does not prove someone can sing..........)

ShawnRaven

Fad wrote: »

Im not going to attempt to talk about GnR when I was a year and a month old , Id be bull****ting.

Which is fair enough, but there were interesting stories, specifically Axl being about an hour late for a gig because he insisted on traveling by chopper everywhere, problem was, there was nowhere close by to land the f*cking thing and had to drive for an hour to the arena!

Finck is back? Wiki is too confusing for this!

No Finck is in NIN now.........

He did double duty for years, but he still lasted longer in the band than their previous guitarists.

(Listening to an album does not prove someone can sing..........)

No, but i've seen and heard him live, he can still sing and still hold a tune.

superweld

fad he was great singing live on the 2006 tour. saw them twice. don't think his mic was hooked up to anything that would digitally assist :pac:

VR - more classic GNR sound and members? i think they made no effort and just threw their albums. good but nothing special.

GNR - one original member and different sounding but still not light years from classic gnr apart from slashs guitar sound. amazing album.

a name is a name and all that but gnr/newgnr/axlscultarmy or whatever you want to call them are a great band.

Fad

ShawnRaven wrote: »

Which is fair enough, but there were interesting stories, specifically Axl being about an hour late for a gig because he insisted on traveling by chopper everywhere, problem was, there was nowhere close by to land the f*cking thing and had to drive for an hour to the arena!

Im gonna find something so I can read up on this, sounds entetaining!

superweld wrote: »

fad he was great singing live on the 2006 tour. saw them twice. don't think his mic was hooked up to anything that would digitally assist :pac:

Im not saying he definitly uses Autotune live, as I really dont know. Chances are though, he does.

superweld

you'll just have to trust me so

seriously though he doesn't. axl on his game can hit every note he does in the studio. he's not always on his game though, his voice isn't what it used to be in 86-89 but still amazing. he has his off days live which suggests he ain't using any autotune.

ShawnRaven

ShawnRaven wrote: »

Happened three years ago at Download at the same venue.

And the RDS gigs saw Metallica sell the place out while Guns was half empty.....

ShawnRaven

ShawnRaven wrote: »

I don't think either dates completely sold out, which is probably why Download never made it back here.

I remember reading that GNR had the bigger crowd, could have been utter bollocks though, I wasn't there for the Metallica day, but the GNR turnout was pretty impressive.

I was at both and there were WAY more people at Tallica. I wandered up to the barrier no hassle at Guns, I nearly lost my mates from the crus at Tallica. NO comparison.

whiterob81 wrote: »

No, they didn't. I got my ticket on the day and there was still a good few left. only got it at the last minute because i wasn't too sure if i'd get to go.

they did sell out marlay park last year though

Of all gigs I've been to in the RDS, Metallica 06 was by far the most attended.

Nea

Deleted User wrote: »

Of all gigs I've been to in the RDS, Metallica 06 was by far the most attended.

I think that the support of AIC/Korn was a selling point in this too, it was for me anyway.
TBH personally I would not be in any hurry to see GnR live unless there was decent support acts. Chinese Democracy did feck all for me, it wasnt arse but it wasnt great either.

lord lucan

tbh i've no idea of the numbers that were at the G N' R/METALLICA shows in '06 but both seemed pretty packed. G N' R pulled a big crowd because they'd disappeared off the radar for so long that a lot of people were intrigued to see if axl still had it and what the new outfit sounded like.

i'm not sure how well the G N' R brand would sell now after the release of such an over-hyped record which had so-so reviews. it'd need to be a pretty impressive line-up to sell out,particularly if it ends up outside of dublin. AC/DC they're not!!

phishcakes

ah sweet anyway if they play!

poundhound

After 22 years of attending concerts, GNR at the RDS in 2006 was the worst. This was my review at the time.............................................."Having no interest in seeing current upstarts Funeral for a friend and Bullet for my valentine, I arrived at the RDS around 8.30 last Friday, arriving at the venue I could hear Axl Rose was already on, I asked how long they'd be on, 20 mins apparently.Anyways, undeterred we arrived at the final chords of Knockin on heavens door and next up we were "treated" to a joint guitar solo version of Christina Aguilara's song "Beautiful", yes, it was as bad as it sounds.Axl Rose abounds back onstage for a rousing version of "Outta get me", then another guitar solo, this time we were offered "Dont cry" in full as a guitar solo?!The momentum rose again with "You could be mine" before Axl left the stage again and guess what, another guitar solo? No, this time a f*ckin piano solo!After that there was a run of 3 or 4 songs, "November rain", "Sweet child o mine" and a couple of new songs from Chinese Democracy.Sebastian Bach came onstage to duet on "My michelle" and the momentum was kept going with the brilliant "Madagascar" again from the next album.Then another guitar solo!!!!.Why did they keep building up the momentum and then stop it dead in its tracks with these meaningless solos.I was close to calling it quits and leaving at this point.The solo's weren't even good, tuneless messes, is a good description.and the posing and pomp of these guys during the solos defied belief, "You have to earn the right to prance around like that" I said to my better half.The show finished with a cracking version of "Nightrain" and "Paradise city", but it has to be said, overall it was disappointing.Axl Rose has stage presence and he still has the voice, but the bums he has as his band wasn't even funny.They looked like children lost in a shopping centre when Axl wasn't onstage.I wouldn't say the show was a disaster as they had their moments, but they were too few and far between.Fridays experince meant I decided to give Metallica a miss.In truth, I would have went to see Alice in chains and cast a curious eye over Korn, but given the fact Korn didn't play, Im glad I opted for Angola V Portugal in the world cup."

Motley Crue

poundhound wrote: »

"You have to earn the right to prance around like that" I said to my better half.The show finished with a cracking version of "Nightrain" and "Paradise city", but it has to be said, overall it was disappointing.

Your "review" was very bias, you failed to say anything really positive at all, and from the moment I started reading (where you said you made a point of missing the support acts and then turning up the gig late) I knew you were going to do nothing but slate the band. I was at the same gig, in the pit, and both the atmosphere and performance was electric...yes there were a few breaks here and there but that added to the atmosphere of a big stage rock show...if you were so into the music you needed a break just as much as Axl every once in a while

poundhound wrote: »

Fridays experince meant I decided to give Metallica a miss.In truth, I would have went to see Alice in chains and cast a curious eye over Korn, but given the fact Korn didn't play, Im glad I opted for Angola V Portugal in the world cup."

You decided to miss Metallica because GNR were bad? Im sorry but that doesnt make sense. If I decided not to go to a concert because the one Id seen the night before was awful then Id have to admit to myself that I just didnt want to go and it had nothing to do with the first nights performance. You simply wanted to watch the football more and you seem very hard to please so I doubt Metallica would have been your thing

Motley Crue

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=115534

Rolling Stone seem to think there's something going on

poundhound

I had nothing positive to say at all? I mentioned the brilliant Madagascar and mentioned that Axl still has stage presence and the voice is still there but the 2006 show was very very disappointing. How you can say the performance was electric is baffling?! What did it for you the guitar solo of Christine Agulera's beautiful? Hardly a successful ingredient of a big rock show. Im also very aware of the music of FFOF and BFMV and I dislike them both hence my decision to deliberatly miss them. Also for a headline act to take the stage before 8pm is very very uncommon. As I said the whole debacle tainted my interest in going to the same venue the following night for Metallica show. What I should have mentioned is that I had already seen Metallica 5 times up to that point and as a result wasnt bothered about seeing them again. What I should also point out is that I seen GNR in 1992 and they were fantastic. Fans of the current line up dont want to accept that this incarnation is NOT Guns N Roses. If you want them to play here again and pay to listen to endless guitar/piano solo's while Axl braids his hair, then fine. But the GNR I seen in 1992 had more talent, hunger and relevance than todays watered down effort.

RonMexico

There is an awful amount of bull**** being thrown around in this thread.

superweld

poundhound wrote: »

What did it for you the guitar solo of Christine Agulera's beautiful? Hardly a successful ingredient of a big rock show.

it was actually a good version. i know it's not 'cool' for anything related to christina aguilera to be in a gnr gig but she didn't write the song. it was written by a friend of richard fortus (4 non blonde woman can't think of her name at moment)

would i prefer it didn't happen? probably but i still enjoyed it.

Motley Crue

poundhound wrote: »

As I said the whole debacle tainted my interest in going to the same venue the following night for Metallica show. What I should have mentioned is that I had already seen Metallica 5 times up to that point and as a result wasnt bothered about seeing them again.

You are entitled to your opinion but I cant understand how it was that bad of a show for you. And if youd mentioned youd seen Metallica 5 seperate times before it would have made a difference. Ive seen Metallica 4 times, 6 by the end of the year, and I would think Id draw the line there unless they made an exceptionally good album

poundhound wrote: »

What I should also point out is that I seen GNR in 1992 and they were fantastic. Fans of the current line up dont want to accept that this incarnation is NOT Guns N Roses. If you want them to play here again and pay to listen to endless guitar/piano solo's while Axl braids his hair, then fine. But the GNR I seen in 1992 had more talent, hunger and relevance than todays watered down effort.

If you had mentioned you were comparing them to the original lineup, which is a different band....and even Axl has to admit that....there is no comparison, GNR with Slash and Duff were far better live than Axl

kona

the word Guns N Roses, is like **** and flies.

jaysus, who cares, he plays the tunes you want to hear. any dick can learn the guitar bits. axl was the main man in GnR, The frontman.

In my opinion musicians with stage presence like slash and duff are everywhere and they can learn to play the classics.

Id still go , just to have a good time, thats what concerts are all about having a laugh and getting ****faced.maybe shout abuse at axl for the craic.:pac: Never understood people standing in a field complaining about the sound etc. ITS A ****ING FIELD:D

ShawnRaven

superweld wrote: »

it was actually a good version. i know it's not 'cool' for anything related to christina aguilera to be in a gnr gig but she didn't write the song.

I actually have to agree here, and trust me, that was the better performance of that solo considering some of the bootlegs of that set of gigs that went around.

However Bumblefoot's ruining of Don't Cry performing it as a guitar solo was blasphemy. He was booed off the stage less than a minute into it.

Dr. Loon

To me GNR are Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy and Steve. Around the whole Illusions piece Matt Sorum was acceptable along with Dizzy Reed, but after all that fell apart, to me, GNR was no more. What a pity. No album will ever beat appetite.

Same with Metallica. Cliff was a serious loss, and Newstead tried to fit in best he could and I liked them still. That new dude is when I lost interest.

Pearl Jam. Once Abruzzesse was gone I stopped listening. There's still some good stuff, but IMO opinion never the same as it was.

There are certain members of bands that make the band I reckon.

smelltheglove

So much anti axl stuff goin on here its not worth commenting on but if the gig does happen and judging by the looks of the post on the gnr forums i might not but if it does i will be a happy gnr camper.....