Reporting drivers using mobiles.

MelonieHead

Have you ever seen someone talking on their mobile while driving and wanted to report them? I know most people are going to say "No, I mind my own business" which could be why there's no specific service to report them to and maybe it's too trivial to report to the police.

Should there be a specific service to report this to or would it be too hard to monitor? Even if you discount all of the private citizens, what about people driving company vans? Has anyone ever rang up the company to complain? I doubt that would do any good.

seanybiker

to hard to make work. It be your word against mine. If i didnt like you i could ring cops and say i seen ya on your mobile while driving. Be a balls to police

TwoShedsJackson

TrafficWatch 1890205805. Probably nothing will be done but you can get it off your chest there.

MelonieHead

Yeah, people have said that but surely the phone company that the driver is using would be able to confirm that he person was indeed on their mobile at the accused time? Obviously if you were going to report someone you would need to give the time that you saw them.

chin_grin

Would they not be able to check last calls received/make on the handset. Hmm, although that's out the window too as you could just say you were pulled over to take/make it. Grr.

But yeah I do get annoyed when I see it, especially as a lousy pedestrian. Shake harder boy!

flyton5

I usually ring the guards(on my hands free) and claim the person is driving erratically maybe due to drink. Then once the call ends I wait a bit before calling back and saying they're probably not drunk but on the mobile.

Saibh

MelonieHead wrote: »

Yeah, people have said that but surely the phone company that the driver is using would be able to confirm that he person was indeed on their mobile at the accused time? Obviously if you were going to report someone you would need to give the time that you saw them.

Can't see it working tbh, you could say some one else was using your mobile phone

MelonieHead

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

Probably nothing will be done but you can get it off your chest there.

That's the problem! It's not practical to even try to do anything about drivers using mobiles.

Maybe the way forward is to install a signal blocker in every car. Sure, that would mean passengers suffer too from not being able to use their phone but it's not really that much of a sacrifice, is it? To be without your phone for a while? As few as twenty years ago people didn't have phones in their pockets and they got along just fine. Maybe the phone would only work if the engine was turned off, in case there is a legitimate emergency.

coolmoose

flyton5 wrote: »

I usually ring the guards(on my hands free) and claim the person is driving erratically maybe due to drink. Then once the call ends I wait a bit before calling back and saying they're probably not drunk but on the mobile.

and what exactly does this achieve? btw many studies also show that use of handsfree kits can be just as distracting and dangerous to drivers as use of a handheld mobile...

dublinario

Generally, when I see somebody driving while on their mobile phone, I tend to follow the person home and observe them from my car for a couple of days.
From there, I'll make a judgement call upon whether to establish a pattern of vague encroachment: I'll rifle through their garbage, make heavy breather phone calls, order pizzas and bouncy castles to their house.

It's not that I have anything against driver-phoners. I'm just looking to make a connection, you know?

TPD

Could have a few cameras mounted around the car and a button on the steering wheel. See someone misbehaving, snap a pic, send it to the garda when you get home.

justcallmetex

MelonieHead wrote: »

Yeah, people have said that but surely the phone company that the driver is using would be able to confirm that he person was indeed on their mobile at the accused time? Obviously if you were going to report someone you would need to give the time that you saw them.

I mean why stop there Maybe you'd like thier DNA profile too? Safty 1st after all

justcallmetex

MelonieHead wrote: »

That's the problem! It's not practical to even try to do anything about drivers using mobiles.

Maybe the way forward is to install a signal blocker in every car. Sure, that would mean passengers suffer too from not being able to use their phone but it's not really that much of a sacrifice, is it? To be without your phone for a while? As few as twenty years ago people didn't have phones in their pockets and they got along just fine. Maybe the phone would only work if the engine was turned off, in case there is a legitimate emergency.

Yeah and then we can use it to track people and hook it up to the insurance company so you wont do anything bold.

Be careful what you wish for.

Tell me is this the sort of world you would like to live in?

foxshooter243

Informers!- the scourge of Ireland:rolleyes:

dublinario

justcallmetex wrote: »

Yeah and then we can use it to track people and hook it up to the insurance company so you wont do anything bold.

Be careful what you wish for.

Tell me is this the sort of world you would like to live in?

But self-regulation doesn't work justcallmetex. I think a nation of squealers would be the solution to, not just this, but a range of problems in Irish society. Ideally, you want to foster an atmosphere of perpetual paranoia, wherein everybody is squealing on everybody else, hoping to beat their accusers to the punch. Once a squealer has squealed, the squealee would be interned until their trial in the H blocks up North.

Alternatively, cars could be modified to release Helium from the dashboard when a phone signal is detected, making all phone calls sound ridiculous.

MelonieHead

Fair enough Tex. Do me a favour and get back to me when you or someone you know is involved in a traffic accident due to some modhrán chatting away instead of waiting until they reached their destination.

High horses are an indulgance few can afford.

jester77

all the time, when I'm driving and see someone driving and on the phone, I quickly take out my phone, take a pic, call the hotline, report the reg, get the hotlines email and mail them the photo. The last time I did this I crashed into the guy on the phone, so it was easy catch him!

Berty

Is there not an irony in phoning the Gardai whilst driving to report somebody for talking on the phone whilst driving.

Anyway, I have a hands free kit in my car so Im perfectly legal yet I still have to push the buttons to make a call which is actually illegal.

"It is illegal to operate a mobile phone whilst driving" so the law does not say talking on a mobile merely using it. So although my hands free kit seems legal the fact I punch in the numbers make it illegal.



*Sigh @ World

pcardin

flyton5 wrote: »

I usually ring the guards(on my hands free) and claim the person is driving erratically maybe due to drink. Then once the call ends I wait a bit before calling back and saying they're probably not drunk but on the mobile.

You must have a very booooooooooooooooooring personal life.... :cool:

Micky Dolenz

you should not be making calls. You can activate an incoming call on head set.

pcardin

jester77 wrote: »

all the time, when I'm driving and see someone driving and on the phone, I quickly take out my phone, take a pic, call the hotline, report the reg, get the hotlines email and mail them the photo. The last time I did this I crashed into the guy on the phone, so it was easy catch him!

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:
next time use hands-free camera....

Micky Dolenz

dublinario wrote: »

Generally, when I see somebody driving while on their mobile phone, I tend to follow the person home and observe them from my car for a couple of days.
From there, I'll make a judgement call upon whether to establish a pattern of vague encroachment: I'll rifle through their garbage, make heavy breather phone calls, order pizzas and bouncy castles to their house.

It's not that I have anything against driver-phoners. I'm just looking to make a connection, you know?

I hope thats late at night when they are in bed and not while they are out driving, I'd hate to see you encouraging this driver phone thing :pac::pac:

CamperMan

have you got nothing better to do with your time?

dublinario

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

I hope thats late at night when they are in bed and not while they are out driving, I'd hate to see you encouraging this driver phone thing :pac::pac:

Of course. It's like I tell everybody in my clique of weirdoes, if you're going to stalk someone, for the love of God, stalk safely. Heavy breathing is best done while standing behind a tree outside the stalkee's house, so that with luck, you might observe their reaction through the net curtains.

Back when I was a young weirdo, taking my first baby-steps in the world of creepiness, I would often do my heavy breathing in person, rather than over the phone, and I had my jaw broken more than once, let me tell you. You live and learn though.

justcallmetex

MelonieHead wrote: »

Fair enough Tex. Do me a favour and get back to me when you or someone you know is involved in a traffic accident due to some modhrán chatting away instead of waiting until they reached their destination.

High horses are an indulgance few can afford.

I'll be sure to make the world suffer just like me when that happens....I can hardly wait for that depth bitterness

CamperMan

MelonieHead wrote: »

Fair enough Tex. Do me a favour and get back to me when you or someone you know is involved in a traffic accident due to some modhrán chatting away instead of waiting until they reached their destination.

High horses are an indulgance few can afford.

what about the drivers that smoke, or eat food or drink at the wheel, I see more of that going on than people using mobile phones

justcallmetex

CamperMan wrote: »

what about the drivers that smoke, or eat food or drink at the wheel, I see more of that going on than people using mobile phones

We'll get SWAT for them Fu(kers!

CamperMan

justcallmetex wrote: »

We'll get SWAT for them Fu(kers!

what about the idiots that drive with defective headlights, worn tyres or other defects that can cause an accident

justcallmetex

CamperMan wrote: »

what about the idiots that drive with defective headlights, worn tyres or other defects that can cause an accident

Thats what the NCT's for....

dublinario

CamperMan wrote: »

what about the drivers that smoke, or eat food or drink at the wheel, I see more of that going on than people using mobile phones

I concur CamperMan, those people are clearly highly-skilled drivers, ahead of the curve in the realm of multitasking. I wish I had their aptitude. While driving, I personally like to play one of those games where you pass a small metal loop around a bendy course of electrified wire, without touching the loop off the wire (which buzzes if you do). I find it therapeutic.

Similarly, a Rubiks Cube can really wile away the boredom when you're travelling at high speed along an endlessly straight, monotonous road.

event

MelonieHead wrote: »

That's the problem! It's not practical to even try to do anything about drivers using mobiles.

Maybe the way forward is to install a signal blocker in every car. Sure, that would mean passengers suffer too from not being able to use their phone but it's not really that much of a sacrifice, is it? To be without your phone for a while? As few as twenty years ago people didn't have phones in their pockets and they got along just fine. Maybe the phone would only work if the engine was turned off, in case there is a legitimate emergency.

this is possibly the worst idea i have ever heard
there are far too many things wrong with this, so i wont even bother to name them

CamperMan

justcallmetex wrote: »

Thats what the NCT's for....

On a drive back from Dublin to Leitrim in the dark, I can guarantee I will see a couple of cars driving with one headlamp not working.

The NCT is for 2 years, plenty can go wrong with a car in that time

CamperMan

Originally Posted by MelonieHead
That's the problem! It's not practical to even try to do anything about drivers using mobiles.

Maybe the way forward is to install a signal blocker in every car. Sure, that would mean passengers suffer too from not being able to use their phone but it's not really that much of a sacrifice, is it? To be without your phone for a while? As few as twenty years ago people didn't have phones in their pockets and they got along just fine. Maybe the phone would only work if the engine was turned off, in case there is a legitimate emergency.

Have you had your mobile phone confiscated? or have you been done for this offence and your kinda p|ssed off, this is a stupid idea

MelonieHead

CamperMan wrote: »

what about the drivers that smoke, or eat food or drink at the wheel, I see more of that going on than people using mobile phones

Fair enough, I can't argue with that. Personally I've only ever witnessed drivers
a) on their phone or
b) picking their nose.

By the way, I don't drive. I maybe should've said that at the outset. I see all this while walking. Often at traffic lights or junctions where I'm stopped.

justcallmetex

CamperMan wrote: »

On a drive back from Dublin to Leitrim in the dark, I can guarantee I will see a couple of cars driving with one headlamp not working.

The NCT is for 2 years, plenty can go wrong with a car in that time

OK I'm leaving to drive from Sligo to Boyle I'll pass a few too. But fu(k it I'll keep to my side of the road and try and not let it bother me much

MelonieHead

event wrote: »

there are far too many things wrong with this, so i wont even bother to name them

Yeah, you wouldn't be able to use your phone for a few minutes. Can't have that now can we?

F*ck being sensible, there's fun to be had!

I blame the Government to a degree. Maybe if Irish people didn't have to live under such strict regulations they would have a bit more cop-on when it comes to their fellow man.

event

MelonieHead wrote: »

Yeah, you wouldn't be able to use your phone for a few minutes. Can't have that now can we?

F*ck being sensible, there's fun to be had!

I blame the Government to a degree. Maybe if Irish people didn't have to live under such strict regulations they would have a bit more cop-on when it comes to their fellow man.

oh good lord

what about firemen, who need to be told where a fire is, or who have a beeper.
what about doctors, who are on call a lot of the times.
imagine your elderly parents live at home, and you are the contact for their alarm. what happens if they are broken into?
your pregnant wife stumbles and falls and tries to ring you, no answer
you are being chased by a car after they tried to rob you on a lonely road, you need to call the guards

and on and on

there are far too many scenarios where mobile phones are essential. Im not saying we should be allowed use them while driving, quite obviously we shouldnt, but a blocker in every car?

its ludicrous

CamperMan

MelonieHead wrote: »

Fair enough, I can't argue with that. Personally I've only ever witnessed drivers
a) on their phone or
b) picking their nose.

By the way, I don't drive. I maybe should've said that at the outset. I see all this while walking. Often at traffic lights or junctions where I'm stopped.

I see it often, at the weekend, I saw a women driving a Micra down the N11 drinking milk, I saw a bloke driving along the M4 driving slowly... he was using his PDA.. NO HANDS ON THE STEERING WHEEL., I saw a young lad eating a sandwich whilst driving, no idea of the contents of that sandwich, but it looked nice. I have seen drivers map reading whilst hurtling along at 80kmph.

The thing is, even if your eating at the wheel, you drop a crumb on your lap, you naturally look for that crumb, so taking your eye off the wheel, same with people drinking, or smoking.

Picking your nose whilst driving, I can hardly see that causing an accident unless you went to far and poked your brain out.

Personally, I see no harm in talking on a mobile phone, it's when you start to write notes down, thats where you could lose control.

It is pure lunancy to say that talking/using a mobile can cause an accident, your driving along listening to the radio and Westlife come on, what do you do, you take your eyes off the road for a second whilst you tune into something else...

A whole load of things can be a distraction whilst driving that could cause an accident, what about the summer (whenever we get one) and you see a bird walking along with a tight top on and a short skirt... that is a distraction that could cause an accident.

Kids screaming in the back of the car.. another distraction, or maybe a pigeon sh!ts on your window, a big dollop of it, another distraction.

mollypop

What angers me more than people driving while using their phone are the people who think just because their phone rings they have to right to stop their car(or SUV in a lot of cases) where they are regardless of how dangerous it is or how awkward it is for people to get past them. If there's a herd shoulder large enough, then fair enough, otherwise, if it's not life or death - keep moving!!:mad:

And they also stop in the most awkward of places, like right in front of a junction that you are coming out of and they completely block your view of the road, or worse when you are turning in they stop right in front of you! :mad:

Capt'n Midnight

justcallmetex wrote: »

Yeah and then we can use it to track people and hook it up to the insurance company so you wont do anything bold.

Be careful what you wish for.

Tell me is this the sort of world you would like to live in?

there is a plan to fit GPS in all new cars in the UK for road tolling

be dead easy to link this with cell location and call info on mobile phones so they can prove your mobile was with you in the car when you answered that call, you'll pass enough CCTV cameras that they'll prove you had no passenger and if you're registered with eflow they can deduct the fine on the fly too

Rb

I've only ever seen women driving around with the phone up to their ear tbh, so the simple solution would be...:)

Red Hand

...invade Poland.

Rb

Jeremiah 16:1 wrote: »

...invade Poland.

Only if we get to put the camps back up though, right?

Red Hand

Rb wrote:

Only if we get to camp it up though, right?

I'll leave that to you.:pac:

coolmoose

MelonieHead wrote: »

Maybe the way forward is to install a signal blocker in every car. Sure, that would mean passengers suffer too from not being able to use their phone but it's not really that much of a sacrifice, is it? To be without your phone for a while? As few as twenty years ago people didn't have phones in their pockets and they got along just fine. Maybe the phone would only work if the engine was turned off, in case there is a legitimate emergency.

The worst idea ever...Twenty years ago was twenty years ago...it doesn't mean that what happened then was better. I regularly use my phone while driving through a handsfree kit, both in work and privately and I need to. It would be a major sacrifice for a lot of people who unfortunately have long commutes or a job that necessitates being on the road a lot.

There will always be the plank who uses the phone, same way there will always be the plank who drives uninsured, the plank who drives drunk etc.

Human nature...

More Garda enforcement is needed, not phone lines or citizen-based solutions whoch are open to abuse, and can be a waste of Garda time.

Rb

Jeremiah 16:1 wrote: »

I'll leave that to you.:pac:

A camp invasion of Poland...

They certainly wouldn't see that coming anyway :pac:

Red Hand

I won't be able to watch Schindler's List seriously anymore now.


Officer-"Sir, a man called Schindler has asked to see you."


Camp Kommandant-"Ooooooo! He couldn't afford me, ducky! Send him into my boudoir...I'm free!!!

Rb

Or alternatively, whilst storming villages

"We're here, we're queer, get over it already"

*click click click*

Rabies

This country is getting worse and worse if people are thinking about reporting others for talking on their cells phones.

Christ! I have some choice words for any dick that does it!

People moan about a nanny state, then they think about helping it along.

Can't wait until someone suggests getting a barcode at birth.

Red Hand

Rb wrote: »

Or alternatively, whilst storming villages

"We're here, we're queer, get over it already"

*click click click*

"Poles-stop resisting, and be nice!"