100 hr and 80hr course

Livekop

Hi There,

I was hoping someone could help me out with this.

I completed the 100hr course about 4 years ago in a Teagasc centre. Between 1 thing and another I never did the 80 hr course. I now want to do it. I see you now can do these courses online.

My question is if i completed the 100 course in a teagasc centre, can I do the 80 hour course on line?

Also has anyone completed these online courses and how have they found them.

Thanks

liam7831

Wots the point in doing them now that the sucession grants are gone? I did em last year, looks like it was a complete waste of time:mad:

Livekop

what do you mean succession grants are gone?

The main reason I would be doing it is for the stamp duty relief. I thought this relief was still in place.

Daithi BC

Livekop wrote: »

what do you mean succession grants are gone?

The main reason I would be doing it is for the stamp duty relief. I thought this relief was still in place.

There have been a few changes in the inheritance setup since you did the 100 hour course. Installation Aid has been removed for now, so unfortunately you won't get that.

As far as I know, they've changed the 100 and 80 hour course system as well, and you now need a a "FETAC Level 6 Advanced Certificate in Agriculture". You can do it in a college like Gurteen: http://www.gurteencollege.ie/level%206.html, though it's about to be closed, so your best bet may be the Teagasc online course: http://www.teagasc.ie/ecollege/.

Livekop

thanks daithi bc,

I will ring the local teagasc office and see what they say. will also check those agri college website and see what they are offering.

Has anyone done the ecollege training for the cert in agri?

Daithi BC

No problem. Best of luck with it.

Curious Geroge

Phone the cavan office.. The online training is done up there..

Teagasc Agricultural College Ballyhaise, Co. Cavan
Tel: 049 4338108

reilig

Livekop wrote: »

Hi There,

I was hoping someone could help me out with this.

I completed the 100hr course about 4 years ago in a Teagasc centre. Between 1 thing and another I never did the 80 hr course. I now want to do it. I see you now can do these courses online.

My question is if i completed the 100 course in a teagasc centre, can I do the 80 hour course on line?

Also has anyone completed these online courses and how have they found them.

Thanks

I did my 100 hour and 80 hour course about 3 years ago. I did it through the teagasc ecollege. Requirement was that I had to have fetac level 6 or higher qualification. Know someone who did the course at the same time and was unable to prove that he had done Fetac level 6 (he hadn't), and they would not give him the certs.

At the end of my 100 hour course, they advised us all to take up the next 80 hour course and told us that after 2006, there would be no 80 hour course and the 100 hour course that we did would be worthless.
I believe there is a new online course since 2006/07. It takes much longer to do. It has far more "in-college" days and a lot more assignments. A neighbour is doing it at the moment and it is very different to what I did.

Best advice I can give you is to contact the ecollege below. They will be able to advise you if your 100 hour course will give you credits for the new course.

Teagasc eCollege
Kinsealy Centre
Malahide Road
Dublin 17
Ireland
Tel: +353 1 8459000
Fax: +353 1 8459591
Email: ecollege@teagasc.ie


I dealt with Mairead Kirk when I was there and always found her to be very knowledgable and helpful.

Livekop

cheers reilig,

it will be a bit of a stones if the 100 hr course is worthless so I hope i get a credit for doing it. The new e course seems to be longer and harder. From that post I need to get in contact with both teagasc and the college in kinsealy.

reilig

Livekop wrote: »

cheers reilig,

it will be a bit of a stones if the 100 hr course is worthless so I hope i get a credit for doing it. The new e course seems to be longer and harder. From that post I need to get in contact with both teagasc and the college in kinsealy.

The college in Kinsealy is Teagasc, so the one call will do. There is a new course right across the board as far as I am aware. The ecollege course is still the easiest and shortest - if you have enough qualifications to do it. ie. Fetac Level 6.

baralis

I'm currently doing the online course. There was a lot of work involved in it, and we had to do a lot of paperwork that seemed pointless.
The course was badly organised, in fairness I suppose it was they're first time organising it, but we've attended college two days which won't count in the end as they were in the incorrect format, and some days only turned out to be half days which surely could be condensed into one. We've attended college approx 20 days so far with 6 or 7 more to go, a lot of days for an "online" course and as they are all weekdays, it has been a nuisance having to ask for all those days off work.
However even though the installation aid/retirement scheme etc is cancelled, I think the course is necessary for anyone 35 or under planning on farming, even if only part time. We also learned a lot about modern farming techniques etc.

JohnBoy

I did the original online course and while it was informative and all I didnt actually learn that much from it.

we only had 4 days I think in total and they were never particularly full days.

still I'm sure it'll be a useful thing to have someday.

Livekop

baralis,

I called the ecollege and they said the course for sep 09 is booked out and no dates have been set for the 2010 course

just wondering on how the course works.

When did you start?
How long does it contiue for?
How many hours per week do you have to do online?
How many practical days do you have to do?
Where are the practical days on?
Are their many projects?

baralis

Livekop,

I'm sure what the story is with holding more courses. I was down at the college yesterday and I heard someone say that they didn't think there would be any more online courses in the forseeable future.

In response to your questions, I started last March, the course lasts 18 months.
We had a lot of online work in the first 5 months and then only about 5 or six weeks in total in the last 7 months. We're finish with the online work now. We get a book for each topic, with 5 chapters in each. Questions are posted online on a private forum in a similar format to this. There's usually a question or two on each chapter and you have 1 to 3 weeks to answer depending on the amount of material in the books. The questions are pretty straightforward, and are based on linking the material in the book to your home farm, usually it only takes only a couple of hours to read the chapters and answer them.
Chapters are examined in college, questions for some, assignments for others, most of it isn't too difficult. Exam questions are very short, usually 1 short sentence answers.
The days in college are usually a mixture of these short exams, assignments, walks on various parts of the college farm to discuss various aspects of farming and to be given information/ shown the skills necessary for doing profiency tests.
Profiency tests are carried out over 2 days. For beef and sucklers, they are mostly estimating animal weights and condition, showing you have knowledge of farming, and skills like dosing and injecting cattle and dehorning a calf, tractor driving etc. you have a choice of 4 tests.
There also 8 discussion group days, which take place on a farm in the area.
There are approx 25-27 days in total in college.
You're college will be most likely the nearest agricultural college to you. There's one in Kilkenny, Galway, Limerick, Cork and various other places.
There are also two diarys over the 18 months to be kept on your home farm and there is a farm business plan to prepare near the end of the course.
Hope this helps,
Baralis.