When are the elections

RS6

As above.

Chakar

March 4th - 5th.

kerry4sam

What were the results? Were their any appeals? Any surprises?

Frankieb

Just wondering myself. There was loads of hype yesterday but I haven't heard anything. Is the count over? How do you find out who won?

liamygunner29

Scott aherne welfare,paddy ryan c and c, mike pat ents, donnacha o suilebhan and redmond and hanratty on waitin on results of chris bonds second prefrance after julian brophy and rons couldnt be used to find a winner

kerry4sam

Cheers, typical of elections - some positions won't be filled until about a week after the vote

Breezer

liamygunner29 wrote: »

Scott aherne welfare,paddy ryan c and c, mike pat ents, donnacha o suilebhan and redmond and hanratty on waitin on results of chris bonds second prefrance after julian brophy and rons couldnt be used to find a winner

Looking like it's shaping up to be all the people I voted for. Unlike last year when I don't think even one of the people I voted for got in!

spudington16

Breezer wrote: »

Looking like it's shaping up to be all the people I voted for. Unlike last year when I don't think even one of the people I voted for got in!

Ha well if your choice of backing is as canny in SU elections as it is with political parties you might be a while waiting...

Breezer

spudington16 wrote: »

Ha well if your choice of backing is as canny in SU elections as it is with political parties you might be a while waiting...

Like until June?

Oddly enough, I've heard quite a few people rate this year's union as a bit of a disaster. Where else could that be applied now?

Ahem, yes, back on topic...

Pride Fighter

Who on earth is Mike Pat??? Gary Ward was robbed.

spudington16

Breezer wrote: »

Like until June?

Touché! :pac:

Yeah, the election this year was underwhelming; most of the candidates were carbon copies of each other and no-one really inspired any great confidence... God help us on the President front...

Breezer

spudington16 wrote: »

Touché! :pac:

Yeah, the election this year was underwhelming; most of the candidates were carbon copies of each other and no-one really inspired any great confidence... God help us on the President front...

Are you talking about the incumbents or the union we've just voted on? I actually thought some of the candidates were quite good this year. Others were more... outlandish, shall we say.

Any word on Redmond v Hanratty?

mad lad

Redmond won by 24. Shelly is going over the ballots again though.

So that's Redmond, Ryan, Ahearn, O' Suilleabhain & Mike Pat...good luck to the SU next year

spudington16

Well not one candidate (to the best of my knowledge) had the backbone to take a stance on the fees issue by offer anything more solid than "I'm against them."

Speaking of which, I wish the SU had given us proper notice about that referendum; there was no time to put together a proper 'No' side...

Tayto2000

spudington16 wrote: »

Well not one candidate (to the best of my knowledge) had the backbone to take a stance on the fees issue by offer anything more solid than "I'm against them."

Speaking of which, I wish the SU had given us proper notice about that referendum; there was no time to put together a proper 'No' side...

I don't know that that's entirely fair... the FEE candidates were offering 'direct action', however vague. I think they probably suffered from being perceived as single issue candidates... An anti fee stance is pretty much compulsory for any candidate anyway.


Maybe the Pro Lisbon side should take notes on the referendum

PrivateEye

Well not one candidate (to the best of my knowledge) had the backbone to take a stance on the fees issue by offer anything more solid than "I'm against them."

Rubbish.

The three FEE candidates had all taken part in blockades and occupations against fees. They've been making solid demands against fees that go well beyond 'I'm against them'

They've also been in contact with secondary school student unions and the likes, and organised a solid national campaign- taking the campaigns group to all the NUI colleges and further.

The fact known members of Ógra FF were saying 'Oh I'm against fees too' meant that the candidates who've actively fought fees were lost among those who're filling their CVs.

Pride Fighter

spudington16 wrote: »

Well not one candidate (to the best of my knowledge) had the backbone to take a stance on the fees issue by offer anything more solid than "I'm against them."

Speaking of which, I wish the SU had given us proper notice about that referendum; there was no time to put together a proper 'No' side...

They are mostly Fianna Failers except for Scotty Ahearn and maybe one other. Its a disgrace that those parasites who have destroyed the country now have our fair university in their sights.

Breezer

Pride Fighter wrote: »

They are mostly Fianna Failers except for Scotty Ahearn and maybe one other. Its a disgrace that those parasites who have destroyed the country now have our fair university in their sights.

If I can get over it so can the rest of you TBH I don't care what party they're from as long as they form an efficient SU.

How many of them are FF anyway? As far as I know only Paddy Ryan and Dani Pender. And to be fair to Ryan, he stated that if it came to FF loyalty vs SU loyalty on the fees issue, he'd resign from FF. That, combined with the fact that he seemed a lot more reasonable than his opponent, was what gave him my vote.

spudington16

PrivateEye wrote: »

Rubbish.

The three FEE candidates had all taken part in blockades and occupations against fees. They've been making solid demands against fees that go well beyond 'I'm against them'

Yes, but not one of them had the backbone to admit the reality that fees are on the way back whether we like it or not, and not one suggested a realistic strategy to get the best deal for students, given the circumstances.

Breezer

spudington16 wrote: »

Yes, but not one of them had the backbone to admit the reality that fees are on the way back whether we like it or not, and not one suggested a realistic strategy to get the best deal for students, given the circumstances.

I see (and agree with) your point, but there really would have been no point in them doing this. It would have been political suicide. You saw what happened with the referendum.

dajaffa

FYI: Scottie + Paddy are FG

Gary, Mike Pat + Donnocha are FF, Donnocha said at hustings he would leave the party.

Breezer

dajaffa wrote: »

FYI: Scottie + Paddy are FG

Gary, Mike Pat + Donnocha are FF, Donnocha said at hustings he would leave the party.

Woops, slightly embarrassing mix up on my part there! Meh, like I said, I didn't vote based on political allegiances. I'll save that for a few months.

delta_bravo

Is it true that Mike Pat is the son of Ceann Comhairle John O'Donoughue?

Alyosha

delta_bravo wrote: »

Is it true that Mike Pat is the son of Ceann Comhairle John O'Donoughue?

Yep. Think he'll be a good Ents officer, has a lot of union and society experience.

I only voted for three people....congrats to Mike Pat and Donncha, unlucky Chris Bond!

delta_bravo

Alyosha wrote: »

Yep. Think he'll be a good Ents officer, has a lot of union and society experience.

/QUOTE]

I guess he wants to avert his return to the wilds of Cahirciveen for another year,

Anyone know who got President in the end?

Riamfada

Im pretty sure it was Gary.


Completely off topic but has anyone noticed the sheer quantity of first years going around repeating manifesto and candidate speeches in order to appear knowledgable about the union. I love first years. They are so stupid

princess-sprkle

Pretty glad i won't be here next year now after some of those results, one in particular.

Riamfada

princess-sprkle wrote: »

Pretty glad i won't be here next year now after some of those results, one in particular.

I enjoyed the elections because to me it didnt really matter who won . But PS tell us ... which one in particular?

rainbow kirby

Grimes wrote: »

Completely off topic but has anyone noticed the sheer quantity of first years going around repeating manifesto and candidate speeches in order to appear knowledgable about the union. I love first years. They are so stupid

Bless their little cotton socks :pac:

dajaffa

Redmond won the recount by 31 votes, the first count he had won by 24.

Riamfada

So the winners are

Gary Redmond - President
Paddy Ryan - Campaigns
Mike Pat O'Donoghue - Ents
Donnacha O'Sullivan - Education
Scottie Ahearn - Welfare

I have to say I am actually very suprised by the voter turnout and the way people voted. Well done to all the winners.

spudington16

Typical boys' club, as usual. I'm disappointed about Welfare. At least I won't be here next year...

Riamfada

Im dissapointed to see how nasty the welfare and education race went. Or supposidly went.

Mushy

Grimes wrote: »

Im dissapointed to see how nasty the welfare and education race went. Or supposidly went.

Why what happened?

gubbie

Mushy wrote: »

Why what happened?

There was a lot of "he said, she said" going around. I was surprised C&C went off so nicely. Whenever I talked to either of them, they both wanted to have a clean race, not dragging up any old stories about party politics or the like. It was really clean. Fair play to them

President got a dirty between a few of the candidates. Loads of back and forth mudslinging about people's abilities to do the job.

Tchaikovsky

Ah the good ol' D4 ego-stroking fest!
Next stop RTE or the Dail.

Mushy

gubbie wrote: »

There was a lot of "he said, she said" going around. I was surprised C&C went off so nicely. Whenever I talked to either of them, they both wanted to have a clean race, not dragging up any old stories about party politics or the like. It was really clean. Fair play to them

President got a dirty between a few of the candidates. Loads of back and forth mudslinging about people's abilities to do the job.

Ah right. Petty antics really, no wonder I pay little attention to most of them when in office(without wanting to sound apathetic or that I don't care).

princess-sprkle

Grimes wrote: »

I enjoyed the elections because to me it didnt really matter who won . But PS tell us ... which one in particular?

you're so nosey but president!

Also Starring LeVar Burton

Grimes wrote: »

Completely off topic but has anyone noticed the sheer quantity of first years going around repeating manifesto and candidate speeches in order to appear knowledgable about the union. I love first years. They are so stupid

It's even funnier how bitter they are when the person they were supporting didn't get in - not even the candidates themselves are that bitter. Silly Freshers...

Mimikyu

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33% God

-Phuqer- wrote: »

Apparently he won by a landslide.

Was anyone else suprised it was so close between Redmond and Hanratty?

Not really. Both had very good campaigns going on.

Riamfada

-Phuqer- wrote: »

Apparently he won by a landslide.

Was anyone else suprised it was so close between Redmond and Hanratty?

First Year Much ?


Gary and Donal both ran very good campaings. Johnny Cosgrove didnt take a break from the library tunnel from 9am-7pm on Thursday.

Mimikyu

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Jev/N

Pride Fighter wrote: »

Who on earth is Mike Pat??? Gary Ward was robbed.

You obviously haven't been round UCD long?

Pride Fighter

Jev/N wrote: »

You obviously haven't been round UCD long?

Too long, 3 years. I just expect somebody to get elected that would have put in some effort, this Pat guy had no posters up in the arts block or anywhere else for that matter. It seems he only got elected by being a FF poodle, like everyone else except Scott and Paddy.

gubbie

Pride Fighter wrote: »

Too long, 3 years. I just expect somebody to get elected that would have put in some effort, this Pat guy had no posters up in the arts block or anywhere else for that matter. It seems he only got elected by being a FF poodle, like everyone else except Scott and Paddy.

Well then you haven't been looking. From the 4 years that I've known of Mike Pat he's put more effort into college life then any of the other candidates running. For the SU alone he's been class rep (Don Conroy would vote for him), PRO and accommodation & employment officer, but he's also had a huge involvement for the past 4 years with Ents, running events and doing countless DJing gigs

Back when I was in first year the society people weren't looking too happily on Qsoc as it had not been having enough career events and was turning into yet another party soc. I'd heard they were thinking of shutting down that operation. Mike Pat took it over the following summer and well he must have done something right because its still going now. I think he also won the Iron Stomach that year!

this Pat guy had no posters up in the arts block

I call your bluff. The Arts block (as you may have noticed) every candidate gets the exact same amount of poster space and the posters are infact put up by the returning officer (or maybe the union but not the candidates I don't think). Engineering was equally covered by his face as Gary Ward's

Riamfada

The ents officer for the year after next has also been chosen I hear. Good results, I hope everyone is happy and It'll be a good union. Lets hope they have it in them to take on fees.

G

Riamfada

I found a thread from 2004 about the Union then. Its amazing how the exact same things are being said. As they say on Galactica "all this has happened before and it will happen again" :P

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Foxtrol

Pride Fighter wrote: »

Who on earth is Mike Pat??? Gary Ward was robbed.

If you think Gary Ward was robbed you obviously wernt voting on the experience of the candidates. Ward and Morrisey are both decent guys but they were both Holly Irvine Mark II's just waiting to happen. She was elected (admittedly with Mike Pats help) over other candidates with much more relevant experience and Ents was a complete disaster with most of that years events piggy backed with societies.

From what I've seen Ents is very much not the so called "Clique" I heard spat at me several times during this election but more a meritocracy were you put in your time and you usually get your reward. Mike Pat has given more time to Ents than the other two candidates combined and this was not down to them not having the opportunity but down to the fact that helping out with Ents is not as glamorous as some people think whether it be getting up hungover at 7 every thursday morning to poster, flyering res in the rain when you should be studying, bagging the urinals in the student bar "dressing room", taking in tickets outside the bar when its freezing and all your mates are inside having fun. Its far easier to shy away from getting involved at the bottom and doing work like that and just run straight off for Ents officer calling the people who've done it a "Clique" but Quinlivan, Redmond and Mike Pat spent years paying their dues and eventually got their reward.

ucd.1985

gubbie wrote: »

Back when I was in first year the society people weren't looking too happily on Qsoc as it had not been having enough career events and was turning into yet another party soc. I'd heard they were thinking of shutting down that operation. Mike Pat took it over the following summer and well he must have done something right because its still going now. I think he also won the Iron Stomach that year!

So sick of hearing this Qsoc line over and over again.

Mike Pat ran for C&E that year and lost, his only election loss to date, and only took up the job of Qsoc auditor as a last resort.

He did no career events during that year apart from get in Lochlann Quinn and Denis O'Brien as speakers. Lochlann Quinn being appointed lifetime president of the society had more to do with the continuation of the society than anything.

Would have been very embarrasing for the school if a society with his name was let to die.

Oh and Johnny Cosgrove won the Iron Stomach that year.

ucd.1985

ucd.1985 wrote: »

So sick of hearing this Qsoc line over and over again.

Mike Pat ran for C&E that year and lost, his only election loss to date, and only took up the job of Qsoc auditor as a last resort.

He did no career events during that year apart from get in Lochlann Quinn and Denis O'Brien as speakers. Lochlann Quinn being appointed lifetime president of the society had more to do with the continuation of the society than anything.

Would have been very embarrasing for the school if a society with his name was let to die.

Oh and Johnny Cosgrove won the Iron Stomach that year.

PS I actually really like the guy and have a lot of respect for him and I reckon he'll do a great job.