Is this true?

Crave

"In light of new legislation regarding airsoft guns which will be banning airsoft guns in the public domain."

I just read this on a Irish website, is airsoft being banned?

ASI Casper

Crave wrote: »

"In light of new legislation regarding airsoft guns which will be banning airsoft guns in the public domain."

IE - It will be illegal to run about brandishing them in public places.

Hivemind187

Crave wrote: »

"In light of new legislation regarding airsoft guns which will be banning airsoft guns in the public domain."

I just read this on a Irish website, is airsoft being banned?

Is airsoft being banned - NO.

Is it being made a individual criminal offense to brandish one in a public place such as a car park, shopping center, public park or bus stop - YES.

The law is being altered to allopw the Gardai the correct powers of arrest and the courts the proper power to convict without having an individual member of the public press charges.

gerrowadat

Crave wrote: »

"In light of new legislation regarding airsoft guns which will be banning airsoft guns in the public domain."

I just read this on a Irish website, is airsoft being banned?

You're going to have to link us to the website btw, it's hard to glean context from the quote here.

But yes, if by 'in the public domain' they mean carrying around in public like an idiot.

Crave

I think I understand it now, it was on a skirmish site website but don't want to mention it to give it bad press.

captaindanwaldo

Can you please pm me the Link, would be very intrested in a read.

Much thanks

Dr_Pepper

Crave wrote: »

I think I understand it now, it was on a skirmish site website but don't want to mention it to give it bad press.

Its hardly bad press if its public information which is referring to actual facutal changes, unless its quoting heresay.

Also i don't think anyone here will be against this new change which the IAA itself proposed to the DOJ to begin with.
In fact we welcome this.

Stercus Accidit

Will their be a clause of defence for having a good reason to have the gun out and about?

I use busses etc. to get my gear around alot, and using a bag is all well and good, but if I am stopped, searched etc. and charged, will the legislation take into account my intention being either going to or from a skirmish, or having just bought the gun and bringing it home?

Also, if some snoopy sort sees me briefly moving my gun around in my home, that is outside the public domain is it, what about my back garden?

Fayer?

Hivemind187

Stercus Accidit wrote: »

Will their be a clause of defence for having a good reason to have the gun out and about?

I use busses etc. to get my gear around alot, and using a bag is all well and good, but if I am stopped, searched etc. and charged, will the legislation take into account my intention being either going to or from a skirmish, or having just bought the gun and bringing it home?

Also, if some snoopy sort sees me briefly moving my gun around in my home, that is outside the public domain is it, what about my back garden?

Fayer?

You wont have a problem if you are not "brandishing" it.

In a bag is not brandishing.

In your back garden is not a public place.

In your home is not a public place.

Pointing at someone from a window in your house - that IS an offense but a different one (ie the one we already have).

Stercus Accidit

Ok, so to be convicted, the prosecution must prove that you had intent to cause distress by displaying the gun, ie "brandishing", or so I gather from your post.

That is the definition they would adhere to is it?

Thats for the reply, cleared most of it up for me, just wondering how brandishing is defined in Irish law, if at all?

Hivemind187

Stercus Accidit wrote: »

Ok, so to be convicted, the prosecution must prove that you had intent to cause distress by displaying the gun, ie "brandishing", or so I gather from your post.

That is the definition they would adhere to is it?

Thats for the reply, cleared most of it up for me, just wondering how brandishing is defined in Irish law, if at all?

No.

They dont need to prove intent of anything.

Having the item on display on the back of a bus will be an offense. Taking it out of its bag etc on a train will be an offense. Whipping it out and asking your waiter to hold your gun while you order a bowl of stew in a restaraunt will be an offense.

Intent will, for the most part be completely irrelevant to the breach of the law.

The current law - i.e the one we have been operating under for the last few years requires that an individual must press charges against you for intimidation with a deadly weaon for you to be prosecuted. The change to the law will circumvent this problem by making the inappropriate display of the item an offense i.e. brandishing.

Near as I can tell, and I'm open to correction on this, brandishing will be defined as per the dictionary meaning.

plastic_axe

gerrowadat wrote: »

You're going to have to link us to the website btw, it's hard to glean context from the quote here.

But yes, if by 'in the public domain' they mean carrying around in public like an idiot.

it's on droghedaairsoft.com