Gods plan for your life

TravelJunkie

Hi,

I just wanted to share something with you. It's a comparison between Satan's Plan (SP) and God's Plan (GP) for believers. Also a good look at how the christian life can be undermined.

GP: Faith
SP: Doubt

GP: Encouragement
SP: Discouragement

GP: Direction
SP: Diversion

GP: Success
SP: Defeat

GP: Action
SP: Delay

I find this sheds some light as to how we can become confused in our walk.

tj

Zombrex

TravelJunkie wrote: »

Hi,

I just wanted to share something with you. It's a comparison between Satan's Plan (SP) and God's Plan (GP) for believers. Also a good look at how the christian life can be undermined.

GP: Faith
SP: Doubt

GP: Encouragement
SP: Discouragement

GP: Direction
SP: Diversion

GP: Success
SP: Defeat

GP: Action
SP: Delay

I find this sheds some light as to how we can become confused in our walk.

tj

some of the things on Satan's plan are good though, aren't they? Doubt can be good, so can discouragement.

kelly1

TravelJunkie wrote: »

Hi,

I just wanted to share something with you. It's a comparison between Satan's Plan (SP) and God's Plan (GP) for believers. Also a good look at how the christian life can be undermined.

GP: Faith
SP: Doubt

GP: Encouragement
SP: Discouragement

GP: Direction
SP: Diversion

GP: Success
SP: Defeat

GP: Action
SP: Delay

I find this sheds some light as to how we can become confused in our walk.

tj

Thanks TJ, to add a few more if I may:

GP: love, SP: hate
GP: truth, SP: lies
GP: forgiveness, SP: vengeance
GP: hope, SP: despair
GP: trust, SP: fear

Wicknight wrote: »

some of the things on Satan's plan are good though, aren't they? Doubt can be good, so can discouragement.

Doubting God is never good. Being discouraged when we know God has promised to take care of us even when it looks like He's not, is also bad. It's all about trust.

Zombrex

kelly1 wrote: »

Doubting God is never good. Being discouraged when we know God has promised to take care of us even when it looks like He's not, is also bad. It's all about trust.

How can you arrive at trust without doubt though? Do you just trust everything?

Overblood

How can you arrive at trust without doubt though? Do you just trust everything?

Looks like it.

Doubt/skepticism is a very healthy thing to have to some extent.

robindch

kelly1 wrote: »

Doubting God is never good.

Do you doubt Allah?

pingpongz

Lol you people are crazy :eek:

/runs away

Overblood

Doubting God is never good.

Do you doubt these Gods?

A, Goddess of the moon Babylon/Chaldea
A'as, God of wisdom Babylon/Hittite/Hurrian
A'ra, Local god Arabic
A-a, Goddess of the sun Babylon/Mesopotamia/Akkadia/Semitic
Aa Maakhuer, Lion god of truthful speech Egypt
Aabit, Goddess of song Egypt
Aaghu Gugu, Goddess of the of the dawn Cherokee
Aah, God of the moon of Memphis. Egypt
Aahmes Nefertari, Protector/punisher of humans elevated to goddesshood Egypt
Aakuluujjusi, Creator mother Inuit
Aasith, Goddess of the hunt, war, and the desert Egypt/Syria
Aataentsic, Goddess Iroquois
Aatxe, Evil spirit capable of assuming human form Basque
Ab Kin Xoc, God of war Mayan
Aba khatun Baikal, Goddess of the sea Siberia
Abaangui, God whose huge nose became the moon Guarani
Abaasy, Netherworld beings Yakut
Abaddon, Chief of the demons of the 7th hierarchy Hebrew/Christian
Abandinus, God known only by inscription Roman/Celtic/British
Abarta, God of the Tuatha De Danann Ireland
Abassi, Creator of the world Efik
Abat[t]ur, It weighs souls and/or their deeds Mandaean
Abeguwo, Rain goddess Melanesia/New Guinea
Abellio See Abello
Abello, God of apple trees Gaul
Abeona, Guardian goddess of children leaving home to go on their own Roman
Abere, Goddess of evil Melanesia
Abgal, Desert and tutelary god of the Bedouins Arabic
Abgal, Seven spirits who derived from the the Abzu Sumeria
Abhijit, Benevolent astral deity and goddess of fortune Hindu/Puranic
Abhijnaraja, Physician god and medicine Buddha Buddhist/Tibet
Abhiyoga, Generic name of the servile gods Jain
Abira, Creator Antioquia
Abnona, Goddess of the Black Forest Gaul
Abondia See Habondia
Abora, Supreme Being who sat in heaven and caused the stars to move Palma Is./Canary Is.
Abowie, Goddess of healing and sterility Ghana
Abraxas, Occult theonym; this god has the torso and arms of a man, head of a rooster and serpent legs Greek/Oriental
Abraxis See Abraxas
Abrsax See Abraxas
Abu, God of vegetation Sumeria
Abuk, Patron goddess of women and gardens Dinka
Abunciada See Habondia
Abundantia, Goddess of agriculture and abundance Roman
Abundita See Abundantia
Abziu, Primordial deity of underground water Mesopotamia/Sumeria
Acala, Protector of of teaching and defender of temples Buddhist/India
Acat, God of tattooists Mayan
Acatl See Omacatl
Acaum See Ah Can Cum
Acaviser, Goddess, one of the fates Etruscan
Acca, Goddess associated with Hercules Roman
Acca Larentia, Goddess of the earth and goddess of winter Roman/Etruscan
Accasbel, Most likely was an early god of wine or mead Ireland
Acchupta, Goddess of learning Jain
Acco, Goddess of evil Greek
Achelois, Goddess of the moon Greek
Achelous See Achlae
Achiyalatopa, Celestial giant monster with feathers of flint knives Zuni
Achlae, God of rivers of some standing in the community Greek
Achtland, Goddess of sex and magic Celtic
Acleloos See Achlae
Aclelous See Achlae
Aclla, Goddesses of war and virgins Inca/Quechua
Acna, Mother goddess Mayan
Acolmiztli, Minor chthonic underworld god Aztec
Acolnahuacatl, Minor chthonic underworld god Aztec
Acoran Gran Canary, Supreme Being who really really likes milk Canary Is.
Adad, God of wind, storm, flood and rain Mesopotamia/Babylonn
Adamanthea, Goddess of midwives Greek
Adamisil Wedo, Goddess of water Haiti
Adam[m]as, Parental godhead of the gnostic movement Nassenes
Adaro, God of the sea Melanesia/Polynesia
Addanc, Primordial giant/god Welsh
Adekagagwaa, Spirit of summer who rests during the winter in the south Iroquois
Adeona, Goddess of school children Roman
Adeos, Goddess of modesty Roman
Adhimukticarya, Minor goddess and deified Bhumis Buddhist/Vajrayana
Adibuddha, Primeval Buddha Buddhist
Adidharma, Primordial goddess Buddhist
Adikia, Goddess of injustice who is rather hard on the eyes Greek
Adimurti, Avatar of Vishnu Hindu
Aditi, Supreme creator of all that has been created Hindu
Adityas, Divine sons of Aditi, Varuna Aditya, Indra, Mitra, Rudra, Tvashtar and Vishnu Hindu
Adonis, God of nature Greek
Adonis, Dying and resurrected god who embodies vegetation scorched by the heat of the summer sunshine Syria/Phoenicia
Adrammelech, God to whom infants were burnt in sacrifice [only reference to the practice in the christian OT] Middle east
Adrastea, Goddess of war British
Adrasteia, Goddess of mountains who is the guardian of righteousness and avenges all wrongs Greek/Thrace/Trojan/Phrygian
Adro, Earthly god of grass fires Lugbara
Adroa, God who is an early version of Adro Africa
Adsullata, Goddess of hot springs British
Aea, Goddess of hunting Greek
Aeacoc, Chthonic underworld god and one of the 3 gods of Hades Roman/Greek
Aebhel, Goddess who is a faery [interesting story] Ireland
Aebhel Afekan, Creator goddess Melanesia/Guinea
Aed, Underworld god known only from inscription Celtic/Ireland
Aedos, Goddess of modesty Roman
Aega, Goddess of war Greek
Aegeria, Goddess of prophecy invoked by pregnant women Roman
Aegir, God of the ocean germanic
Aelus See Aiolos
Aengus, God of love, worshipped from about 500 BC/400 AD Celtic/Ireland
Aeolos, Custodian of the four winds Greek
Aequitas, Minor spirit of fair dealing from 300 BCE Roman
Aerfen See Aerten
Aericura, Underworld god known only from inscription Roman/Celtic
Aeron See Aerten
Aerten, Goddess of fate Welsh/Cornish
Aesculapius, God of healing and of medicine Roman/Greek
Aesculapius See Ascelpius
Aesir, Pantheon of the gods norse/germanic
Aesma Daeva, Demon of lust and anger who is ticked at the cow Persia
Aestas, Goddess of summer usually portrayed nude and adorned with garlands of grain Roman
Aesun, God whose name means to be Ireland
Aether, God representing pure air and light Greek
Aetna, Goddess of mountains Roman
Aeval See Aebhel
Aeval, Goddess of sexual relations and small size Celtic
Afekan, Creator goddess Melanesia/New Guinea
Afi, God of rain and thunderstorms who does not tolerate women using his name Abkhaz
Afreet, Unclean spirits Arabic
Ag'o, Worshipped by hunters Dahomean
Agaman Nibo, Goddess of the dead Haiti
Agamede, Goddess of healing Greek
Agas, Demon of illness, especially the eyes Iran
Agasaya, Goddess of war Semitic
Agathos Daimon, Good genius/guardian spirit Greek
Agbe See Aylekete
Age Fon, God of animals; revered by hunters Benin/Africa(west)
Agischanak, Goddess of the earth Tlingit/Alaska
Aglaia, Youngest of the three graces Greek
Aglibol, God of the moon Roman/Syria/Greek/Palmaryia
Agni, God of lightning, fire, and the sun and who also mediates between the gods and humans India
Agni Hindu, God of fire and guardian of homes Vedic
Agnikumara, Youthful appearing gods associated with rain and thunder Jain
Agnostos Theos, Unknown gods who were always worshipped as a group Greek
Agrona, Goddess of slaughter Welsh
Agrotera, Goddess of good health and hunting Greek
Agu'gux, Creator god who was claimed to be the Christian god under Russia Orthodox priests Aleut
Aguara, Fox god who gave the carob tree to the people Tunpa/Chiriguano
Agwe, Mother of the sea Benin
Agwe, Goddess manifestation of Yemanja Haiti/Vodun
Agwe, God of the ocean Vodun
Agweta, Goddess of the sea Haiti
Ah Bolom Tzacab, Agriculture god who controlled rain and thunder Mayan
Ah Bolon Dz'acab, Fertility god associated with rain and thunder Mayan
Ah Can Cum, Hunter god; protector of the animals Mayan
Ah Chun Caan, Deity of the city of Merida Mexico
Ah Chuy Kak, God of war Mayan
Ah Ciliz, God of solar eclipses Mayan
Ah Cun Can, God of war Mayan
Ah Hulneb, God of war Mayan
Ah Kin, God of the sun, who brings drought but protects man from the powers of evil associated with darkness Mayan
Ah Kin Xoc, God of poetry, a singer and musician Mayan
Ah Kinchil, God of war and the sun Mayan
Ah Kumix Unicob, Small attendant water gods Mayan
Ah Mun, God responsible for protecting the green maize Mayan
Ah Muzecab, Bee gods Mayan
Ah Patnar Uinicob, Large water gods Mayan
Ah Peku, Thunder god who lives on the tops of hills Mayan
Ah Puch, God of death Mayan
Ah Tabai, God of hunting Mayan
Ah Uaynih, Goddess of sleep, specifically males Guatemala
Ah Unicir Dz'acab, God of healing Mayan
Ah Uuc Ticab, Minor vegetation and fertility god Mayan
Ah Wink ir Masa, Nature goddess Guatemala
Aha, Female river spirit Yakut
Ahat, Cow goddess Egypt
Ahau Chamahez, One of two gods of medicine Mayan
Ahau Kin, Goddess of war Mayan
Ahemait, Underworld goddess who eats the souls of the unworthy Egypt
Aheramenmthoou, God of thunder, night, storms, wind, landslides and tidal waves Egypt
Ahladini-Sadini See Parvati
Ahmakiq, Agriculture god Mayan
Ahnt Alis Pok', Very small goddess, only 2 feet high Mexico
Ahnt kai, Goddess of women and children Mexico
Ahone, Supreme deity who was indifferent to worship Virginia
Ahriman, Supreme evil spirit and lord of the darkness and death Zoroastrian
Ahsonnutli, Chief god Navaho
Ahti, Goddess of evil Egypt
Ahuic, Goddess of all running water Aztec
Ahulane, God of war Mayan
Ahura Mazda, Supreme god Persia
Ahurani, Goddess of rain and water Persia
Ai Ada, God of the moon Turkey
Ai Apec Mochica, Supreme god who rules the destinies of the world Peru
Ai Tojon, God who created all light Yakut
Ai Tupua'i, Goddess of healing and of war Polynesia
Aiakos, God of the underworld Greek
Aialila'axa, Goddess of the moon Mexico
Aiaru, Goddess who predicts death Polynesia
Aibell, Goddess of Munster Ireland
Aibheaeg, Goddess of fire and toothaches Ireland
Aida Wedo, Goddess of the rainbow and fresh water Benin/Haiti
Aidin, Goddess of love and sexuality Celtic
Aido Wedo, Goddess of fire Haiti
Aife, Goddess and queen of the Isle of shadow Ireland/Scotland
Aige, Goddess of water and bays Ireland
Aijo, Goddess of evil Estonia
Ailsie, Goddess of water and pools Cherokee
Aimend, Goddess of the sun Ireland/Scotland
Ain, Goddess of war, fertility, love and Midsummer Lair Derg Ireland
Aine See Ain
Aine of Knockaine, Goddess of the moon who was connected with the Summer Solstice Ireland
Aino, Goddess of justice Finnish
Aiolos, Ruler of the winds Greek
Airmid, Goddess of all healing arts and witchcraft Ireland
Airsekui, Great spirit Huron
Airyaman, God of social bonds, contracts, and marriage who at the end of time will fish souls of the the temporarily damned called a Hell by using a net Persia
Aisha, Goddess of water Arabic
Aisha Qandisha, Goddess of sexual activity Morocco
Aittsamka Bella, Goddess of teaching Coola
Aitu, Lower order of the gods Samoa
Aitvaras, Brave and loving demon who will bring good fortune to your home when well fed and treated kindly Prussia
Aius Locutius, God supposed to have given warning of the approach of the Gauls 391 B.C. Roman
Aizen-Myoo, Deity who is full of compassion for mankind Buddhist
Aizen-Myoo, God of tavern keepers, musicians, singers, prostitutes and love Japan
Aja, Dawn goddess Babylon
Aja, Goddess of healing, herbs and of knowledge Yoruba
Ajalamo Yoruba, God of fetuses Africa(west)/Nigeria
Ajatar, Goddess of evil Finnish
Ajaya, Minor goddess Buddhist/Mahayana
Ajbit, God who helped create people [13 were involved] Mayan
Aje, Goddess of wealth in all its forms Yoruba
Aji Suki Taka Hi Kone, God of thunder Japan
Ajok, Chief god Louko
Ajtzak, God who helped create people Mayan
Ajysyt Yakut, Goddess of healing and birth Siberia
Aka, Mother goddess Turkey
Akasagarbha, Bodhisattva and the personification of supreme knowledge of the absolute void Buddhist/India
Akelos, God of rivers Greek
Aken, Underworld god and keeper of the underworld ferryboat Egypt
Aker, God of the earth who guards in the entrance to the underworld Egypt
Akerbeltz, Avatar of the god Mari Basque
Akert khentet auset, Book of the dead deity Egypt
Akeru, Pluralistic earth gods Egypt
Akewa, Sun and war goddess Toba
Akhushtal, Goddess of childbirth Mayan
Akkadia See Isara Mesopotamia
Akkadia See Sulman Mesopotamia
Akna See Acna
Akonadi, Oracle goddess of justice Ghana
Akongo, Supreme and creator god Ngombe
Akras Karelian See Egres
Aksayajnana-Karmanda, One of the 12 Dharnis and the deification of literature Buddhist
Aksobhya, Dhyani-Buddha Buddhist
Aktunowihio, Soul of the earth and a subterranean spirit. Cheyenne
Akuj Akuj, Chief deity Africa
Akusaa, Goddess of war and sunset Egypt
Akycha, Goddess of war Alaska
Akycha, God of the sun Inuit
Al Kahdir N. See Kahdir
Al Lat, Goddess of fertility, procreation and the earth Arabic
Al Shua, Goddess of Ursa Major India
Al Uzza, Goddess of the dawn Arabic
Ala, Goddess of fertility, morality and of justice Nigeria
Ala Ibo, Goddess of the earth in its dual aspect of fertility and death Nigeria
Ala Muki, Goddess of rivers who takes the form of a dragon Polynesia
Alaaye See Olodumare
Alaghom Naom Tzentel, Goddess of thought and intellect Mayan
Alaisiagae, Minor goddess Roman/Celtic/British
Alako, Sent to the earth as a human to reveal the secret laws and a band of lore of the the gypsies, he stayed over in a the moon Norway/Gypsy
Alalahe, Goddess of love Polynesia
Alalu Ossetian, Spirit of smallpox and protects women Caucasus
Alalus, First heavenly King who lasted for 9 years Hurrian
Alastor, Mortal who became a minor spirit who avenged evil deeds and demanded vengeance for crimes Greek
Alat, Astral goddess Arabic
Alatangana Kono, One of the two creator deities, this god created land from swamp Africa(west)/Guinea
Alaunus, Local name for Mecurius from the Mannheim area Celtic
Alauwaimis, Demon who drives away evil and sickness Hittite
Albasta, Goddess of evil Slavic
Albina, Dawn goddess and protector of ill fated lovers Etruscan
Alcis, Goddess of physical prowess and strength Greek
Alecto, One of the goddesses of vengeance Greek
Alecto of Eumenides, Goddess of justice Greek
Alectrona, Goddess of sun (daughter of the sun, really) Greek
Alemona, Goddess of fetuses Roman
Alephus, Minor river god Greek
Alfhild, Goddess of wrestling norse
Alfs, Minor race of gods germanic
Alignak, God of the moon, storms, earthquakes and tides Inuit
Alii Menehune, Chief of the Little People Hawaii
Alisanos, God of stones Gaul
Alk'unta'm Bella, God of the sun Coola
Alkonost, Goddess of the land of the dead and justice Russia
Allah, God Middle east
Allatu[m], Underworld goddess Semitic(West)
Almaqah, Astral god Arabic
Almha, Goddess of the Tuatha De Danann Ireland
Almoshi, Goddess of healing and cattle Slavic
Aloadae, Giants, 54 ft.tall, who warred with the gods and lost Greek
Aloidae See Aloadae
Alom, Sky god who helped 6 other gods create the world Mayan
Alopurbi, Goddess of hunting India
Alpanu, Underworld goddess Etruscan
Alpheus, God of rivers who fell in love with a nymph and had a bad experience Greek
Alphito, White goddess Greek
Altan Telgey, Goddess of the earth Mongol
Altria, Ancient goddess of the earth Etruscan
Aluelp, No information Caroline Is.
Aluluei, God of knowledge Micronesia
Am-Heh, Underworld god and minor deity who lives in a lake of fire Egypt
Ama, Goddess of the dark and of the underworld Baikal/Siberia
Ama No Uzume, Goddess of persuasion Japan
Ama Terasu, Goddess of the sun, queen of the universe Japan
Ama-arhus, Goddess of fertility Babylon/Akkadia
Ama-Tsu-Mara, God of smiths Japan/Shinto
Amaethon, Agriculture god Celtic
Amagandar, Protective female spirits Siberia
Amakandu See Sakka[n]
Amalthea, Nymph of springs Greek
Amasagnul, Goddess of fertility Babylon/Akkadia
Amat-Ama-arhus See Ama-arhus
Amaterasu O-Mi-Kami, Goddess of war and the sun Japan/Shinto
Amaterasu Omikami See Amaterasu O-Mi-Kami
Amatsu Mikaboshi, God of evil Japan
Amaunet, Goddess of fertility Egypt
Amayicoyondi, Goddess of the sky Peru
Amba Dravidian, Goddess of the earth India
Amberella, Goddess of the ocean Baltic
Ambikas See Mataras
Ambisagrus, Weather deity British
Ame No Uzume, Goddess of fertility and happiness Japan
Ame-No-Kagase-Wo, Astral deity who had to be executed Japan/Shinto
Ame-No-Mi-Kumari-No-Kami, Goddess of water Japan/Shinto
Ame-No-Minaka-Nushi-No-Kami, Supreme god from about 600 CE till now Japan/Shinto
Ame-No-Tanabata-Hime-No-Mikoto, Goddess of weavers Japan/Shinto
Ame-No-Toko-Tachi-No-Kami, Primordial deity Japan/Shinto
Ame-Waka-Hiko, God who goofed and had to die Japan/Shinto
Amelenwa, Goddess of justice Africa
Amelia, Loa of Haiti Haiti/Vodun
Amen, Primordial creation deity Egypt
Amen See Ammon
Ament, Goddess who welcomes the dead to the afterworld Libya
Amesha, Gods without being gods and created without being creatures[6 in number] Spentas/Yazatas
Ami, God of fire Egypt
Amida, Primordial deity Buddhist/Japan
Amimitl, Minor god of fish hunters and lakes Aztec
Amitabha, Fourth Dhyanibuddha Buddhist/India
Amitolane, Rainbow spirit. Zuni
Amm, God of weather and the moon Arabic
Amma, Supreme god Dogon
Amma, Creator god with a novel story Dogon/Mali
Amma, Local god India/Dravidian/Tamil
Ammavaru, Primordial mother goddess Hindu/India/Dravidian
Ammit, Goddess who ate the hearts of unworthy souls Egypt
Ammon, God of air, wind, sun, reincarnation, war Egypt
Amn, Goddess of justice Egypt
Amogahasiddhi, Fifth meditation Buddha Buddhist
Amoghapasa, God Buddhist
Amon, God of agriculture, fertility and long life Egypt
Amor, God of love Roman
Amphion, God of music, could make building stones move by playing his lyre Greek
Amphitrite, Goddess of the sea Greek
Amponyinamoa, Goddess of long life Ghana
Amset See Imset
Amsu, God of fertility Egypt
Amun See Amon
Amun, Supreme creator god Egypt
Amunet, Goddess of mystery Egypt
Amurru, Minor mountain god Semitic(West)
Amymone, Goddess of springs Greek
An, God of the Underworld and chief deity Sumeria
An Zu, Goddess of chaos Assyria
Ana See Dana
Anael, Goddess of astral light Babylon
Anahita, Goddess of water and war Babylon/Egypt
Anahita, Goddess of fertility, semen and of water Persia
Anahita See Ardvi Sura Anahita
Anaitis, Goddess of fertility Persia
Anala, Attendant god Hindu/Puranic
Ananke, Omnipresent goddess of destiny Greek
Anann See Anu
Ananse, Creator of the sun, stars, day, moon and night who often intercedes between gods and mortals Ashanti
Ananta, Snake god; one of the seven snake deities Hindu/Puranic
Anantamukhi, One of the 12 Dharnis Buddhist
Anantesa, Minor deity and one of the eight Lords of of knowledge Hindu/Puranic
Anapel, Goddess who presides over birth and reincarnation Koryak
Anasuya, Goddess of wisdom Hindu
Anat, Warrior virgin, slayer of snakes, life and goddess of fertility Ugarit
Anat, Goddess of war, hunting and love Canaan
Anath See Anat
Anath, Goddess of love and war Phoenicia
Anatis, Goddess of the moon Egypt
Anatu, Goddess of the sky and ruler of the earth Mesopotamia
Anaulikutsai'x Bella, Goddess of rivers who oversees the salmon's cycle of life Coola
Anbay S., God of justice and an oracular source Arabic
Ancasta, Warrior Goddess British
Anceta, Goddess of healing Roman
Andarta, Goddess of fertility, most likely Celtic/Gaelic
Andjety, Underworld god of the ninth nome[district] Egypt
Andrasta Icene, Victory goddess British
Andriaahoabu, High Lady who descends to earth on a silver chain Madagascar
Andriam Vabi Rano, Goddess of water and lakes Africa
Androgyne, Man/woman deity Greek
Andromeda, Goddess of dreams Greek
Andvari, Dwarf who can turn himself into a fish norse
Anextiomarus, God linked with Apollo Roman/British
Angels, Messengers between the heaven and earth, with nine orders at present Christian/Jewish/Islam
Angerona, Goddess of anguish, secrecy, silence and the winter solstice Roman
Angina, Goddess of health, specifically of sore throats Roman
Angitia, Snake goddess Greek
Angitia, Early goddess of healing and witchcraft Roman
Angpetu Wi, God of the sun Lakota
Angru Mainya, Evil underworld god Persia
Angus, God of youth Celtic
Angus Mac Og, One of the Tuatha De Danaan Ireland
Angus Og, God of love Ireland
Anguta, God who lives under the sea and drags down the dead Inuit
Anhouri, Minor god Egypt
Anhur, God of war and hunting Egypt
Ani, Goddess of justice Africa
Anieros, Goddess of the earth Roman/Phrygian
Anila, One of the vasu; attendants to Vishnu Hindu/Puranic
Aningan, God of the moon, called Igaluk in Alaska Inuit
Anjea, Fertility spirit Australia
Ankalamman, Guardian goddess who wards off demons Hindu/Dravidian
Anna Kuari, Local vegetation goddess India/Oraon
Anna Perenna, Goddess of reproduction, wanton love, and of spring Etruscan
Annalia, Goddess of rivers Africa
Annallja Tu Bari, Goddess of sexuality Sudan
Annapatni, Goddess of food Hindu
Annapurna, Goddess of autumn India
Annis, Black goddess Celtic
Anpao, Spirit of the dawn. Dakota
Anqet, Goddess of water fertility healing and lust Libya
Ansa, Minor sun god Hindu/Puranic
Ansar, Primordial deity Babylon/Akkadia
Anshur, Not only the goddess of the sun, she also killed the dragon of chaos during creation Assyria
Antaboga, Underworld serpent deity ruling over the production of rice Indonesia
Antai, Goddess of healing and whooping cough India
Anteros, God of passion and returned love Greek/Etruscan
Antevorta, Goddess of childbirth, the future and prophecy Roman
Antheia, Goddess of spring Greek
Anti, Guardian deity of the eastern sky Egypt
Antu, Derived from the older Sumeria Ki Babylon/Akkadia
Anu, Mother goddess associated with fertility and the primordial mother Ireland
Anu, Head of the gods, he had an army of stars to destroy evildoers Babylon
Anuanaitu, Goddess of the ocean andwhirlpools Caribbean
Anubis, God of black magic, death, embalming and funerals Egypt
Anuket, Goddess of water and of rivers Egypt
Anukis, Birth goddess and of the cataracts of the lower Nile Egypt
Anulap, Sky god Truk Is.
Anumati, God of the full moon Sanskrit
Anunit, Goddess of the morning star Chaldea
Anunitu, Goddess of the moon Babylon
Anunnaki, Seven judges of the Underworld; they began as fertility deities Babylon
Anuradha, Minor goddess of fortune, she is benevolent though Hindu/Puranic
Anus See Anu
Anus, King of heaven who declared war on the father of the gods, he lost Hurrian
Anwho, Goddess of war who had a shrine at Thebes Syria
Anyigba, Goddess of hunting, luck and healing Togo
Anzety, God and King of Busiris Egypt
Aoife See Aife
Aondo Tiv, Creator god who lives in the sky Nigeria
Apa, Attendant god Hindu/Puranic
Apacita, Guardian spirit Inca
Apam Napat, God of fresh water Hindu/Persia/Vedic
Apap Teso, Creator god who as a benevolent sky god brings rain Uganda
Aparajita, Minor god/goddess Buddhist/Mahayana
Aparajita, Form of Durga Hindu/Puranic
Aparajita, God, a form of Rudra Hindu/Puranic
Aparajita See Aralo
Apate, Goddess of deceit Greek
Apaturia, Goddess of evil Greek
Apedmak, God of war Sudan
Apep, Huge serpent who caused storms and eclipses and ate the sun at evening Egypt
Apesh, Tortoise god of night, evil, and the powers of darkness Egypt
Apet, Goddess who protects pregnant women, children, nursing mothers and justice Egypt
Aphaea, Goddess of the moon? Greek
Aphrodisias, Goddess of fertility Turkey(Carian)
Aphrodite, Goddess of desire, fertility and sexual love and beauty Greek
Aphrodite Pandemos, Goddess of sex likely conflated with Aphrodite Greek
Apis, God of fertility Egypt
Apiu, Weather god Etruscan
Apkallu See Abgal
Apo, God of mountains Inca
Apollo, God of archery, harmony, order, inspiration, intellect, mathematics, medicine, oracles, prophecy, reason, and truth . A busy fellow. Greek
Apolonia, Goddess of healing and toothaches Brazil
Aponibolinayen, Goddess of the sky Philippines
Apophis, Demon of darkness Egypt
Apozanoltl, Running water goddess Aztec
Appias, Fountain nymph Roman
Apsaras, Protective deities of gamblers and Water spirits Hindu/Vedic
Apsu, God of underground waters Babylon
Apuat, Jackal-headed god who helps the soul choose its next incarnation Egypt
Aquilo, Fod of the west winds Roman
Aquit, Moon deity Americas
Arachne, Mother goddess of Weaving Roman
Arad-Ama-arhus See Ama-arhus
Aralo, Agriculture god Georgia/Armenia/Crimea
Aramazd, God Armenia
Aranyani, Minor goddess of woodlands Hindu/Vedic
Aranzahas, Tigris river deified Hittite
Arapacana, God Buddhist
Ararat, Creator goddess Anatolia
Araua, Goddess of the moon [maybe] Roman
Arawa Suk, Goddess of the moon Kenya/Uganda
Arawen See Arawn
Arawn, God of Annwn, ruled the underground Welsh
Arawyn See Arawn
Aray See Aralo
Arazu, God of construction Babylon
Archons, Primordial creator gods Christian/Gnostic
Ard Greimme, Once God of the sun Ireland/Scotland
Ardhanarit savara, Siva and Sakti combined Ammaiappan/Naranari
Ardra, Minor goddess of misfortune Hindu/Puranic
Arduinna, Goddess of forests and hunting Roman/Celtic
Ardvi Sura Anahita, Goddess of rivers and water Persia
Ardwinna, Goddess of woodland and animal British
Arebati, God Bambuti/Congo
Areimaios See Arimanius
Areimanios, Underworld god, not nice Greek
Ares, God of storms and war Greek
Arete, Goddess of justice and virtue Greek
Argante, Goddess of healing British
Arge, Goddess of hunting Greek
Ari Au Tchesf, Lion god Egypt
Ariadne, Goddess of dreams Greek
Arianrhod, Goddess of fertility and wanton love and mother aspect of the triple goddess Welsh
Arianrod, Goddess of the moon Ireland
Aricia, Goddess of prophetic visions Roman
Arimanius, Underworld god Roman
Arinna, Goddess of the sun Hittite
Aristaeus, Protector of flocks who originated the cultivation of olives Greek
Aristatos, God of herdsmen Greek
Arito, Goddess of bears, prosperity and the harvest Switzerland
Arito See Artio of Muti
Arjuna, Heroic god Hindu/Vedic
Arma, God of the moon Hittite/Hurrian
Armaz, Supreme god and a warrior deity pre Christian style Georgia
Arna'kuagsak See Nuli'rahak
Arnakua'gak, Old woman of the sea, an animalistic spirit Inuit
Arnamentia, Goddess of spring waters Celtic
Arnemetia, Goddess of water known from inscriptions Roman/British
Arom Kafir, Minor goddess contracts Afghanistan
Arrawn See Arawn
Arsan Duolai Yakut, Chief spirit of the underworld Siberia
Arsay, Underworld goddess, the third daughter of Baal Canaan
Arsu, Astral god Arabic
Artaius, God of sheep and cattle herders Gaul
Artemis, Goddess of agriculture, archery, hunting, chastity, virginity, fertility, childbirth,the moon, and of nature Greek
Arthapratisamvit, Goddess of logical analysis Buddhist
Artio of Muti See Arito
Artio of Muti, Goddess of bears, prosperity and the harvest Switzerland
Aruna, God of morning and warriors Hindu
Arundhati, Astral goddess personified as the morning star Hindu/Puranic
Aruru, Goddess Babylon
Arvenus, Local tribal deity Gaelic
Arya-Tara, Goddess Buddhist
Aryaman, God of formal hospitality Hindu/Vedic
Aryong Jong, Goddess of water and rainfall Korea
As, Local fertility god Egypt
As ava, Goddess of fresh water Russia
As-im-babbar See Nanna
Asa Poorna, Goddess of happiness India/Chohan
Asalluha, Minor god who acts as a messenger and reporter to Enki Babylon/Akkadia/Sumeria
Asar, Equestrian god Arabic
Asase Afua, Goddess Ghana
Asase Ya, Goddess of the earth, fertility and the creator of humanity Ashanti
Asbit, Goddess of fire Egypt
Ascelpius, God of healing, taught by Chiron the Centaur and could raise the dead Greek
Asertu, Goddess of fertility Hittite/Canaan
Asgaya Gigagei, God of thunder Cherokee
Ashera, Goddess of fertility Phoenicia
Asherah, Goddess of the sea Canaan
Asherali, Moon and goddess of fertility Canaan
Ashi, Goddess of wisdom India
Ashiakle, Goddess of wealth, and of the sea Ghana
Ashima, Goddess of the moon Semitic
Ashimbabbar, Goddess of the moon Semitic
Ashirat, Goddess of the Evening star Akkadia
Ashis, Goddess of happiness India
Ashkit, Goddess of wind Egypt
Ashnan, Goddess of drunkenness, wine and grains Sumeria
Ashtaroth, Moon and goddess of fertility Phoenicia
Ashtoreth See Astarte
Ashur See Anshur
Ashur, Chief deity of war and fertility Assyria
Ashvins, Sons of the sun Hindu
Asi, Goddess of wisdom Persia
Asiaq, Goddess of weather Inuit
Asima Si, Goddess of water and fish Brazil
Asintmah Athabasca, Goddess of midwives Canada/USA
Asira, Minor god mentioned only by name Arabic
Asis Suk, God of the sun Kenya/Uganda
Askelpios, God of healing and physicians Greek
Asklepios See Aesculapius
Aslea, Minor goddess of misfortune Hindu
Asnan See Ashnan
Aso, Goddess of justice Egypt
Asokottamasri, Physician god Buddhist/Tibet
Asopos, Local river god Greek
Aspalis W., Goddess of hunting Semitic
Asrael, Angel of death, who takes the soul from the body. Islam
Asratum, Goddess of fertility Canaan
Asshur See Anshur
Assur, National deity of Assyria Babylon/Akkadia
Astabis, Warrior god Hurrian/Akkadia
Astamastara, Group of mother goddesses Hindu/Puranic
Astapaios, Prime parent ruling the seven heavens of chaos in gnostic mythology Christian/Gnostic
Astar, Astral god Ethiopia
Astaroth, Goddess of fertility who deals with sheepherders Semitic(West)
Astarte, Goddess of hunting Canaan
Astarte, Goddess of war Egypt
Astarte, Goddess of the moon Syria
Astarte, Goddess of fertility, sacred love, sexuality and of sex and the moon Babylon/Phoenicia/Canaan/Assyria/conference
Astarte See Athtart
Asterodeia, Goddess of the moon Roman
Asthertet, Goddess of horses, war and the moon Syria
Astlik Georgia, Pre ChristiAstral goddess Crimea
Astoreth, Goddess of fertility Palestine/Israel/Lebanon
Astraea, Goddess of justice, truth, of purity, innocence and modesty Roman/Greek
Astraeos, God of astronomy and star light Greek
Astrik, Goddess Slavic
Asuha-No-Kami, God of courtyards Japan/Shinto
Asuras, Sky gods who become demons Hindu/Vedic
Asurkumara, Youthful gods associated with rain and thunder Jain
Asvayujau, Minor goddess of fortune Hindu/Puranic
Asvins, Physician twin gods Hindu/Vedic
At Em, Goddess of time Egypt
Ataa Naa Nyongmo Gan, Creator god who controls the sun and the rain, call causes disasters as epidemics and and earthquakes if you don't follow his rules Ghana
Atabei, Goddess of the earth Cuba
Ataecina, Underworld goddess Roman/Iberia
Atahensic, Goddess of the sky who fell to the earth at the beginning of creation Iroquois
Atai, Goddess of justice Africa
Atalacamani, Goddess of ocean storms Aztec
Atanea, Goddess of the ocean and the dawn Greek
Atanea, Dawn goddess Marquesas Is.
Atar, God of all fire Iran
Atargatis, Goddess of lakes, fertility and nature Syria
Atasamain, Astral deity Arabic
Ate, Goddess of discord, evil, error, infatuation and justice Greek
Atea, God of light Marquesas Is.
Aten, God of the sun Egypt
Atete, Goddess taken over by the Christians as the Virgin Mary Ethiopia
Athena, Goddess of war, architecture, astronomy, science, of horses, intellect and wisdom, oxen, of purity, reason and spinning Greek
Athene See Athena
Athirat, Goddess of the ocean and official wife of El Canaan
Athor, Goddess of light Egypt
Athtart, Goddess of fertility and sex Canaan
Atida, Goddess of hunting and rain Uganda
Atira, Goddess of the earth and of the Evening star Pawnee
Atius Pawnee See Tirawa
Atl, God of water Aztec
Atlacoya, Goddess of drought Aztec
Atlahua, Minor god of lakes and fishermen Aztec
Atlaonin, One of the names of the mother goddess Aztec
Atlas, Titan who has to hold up the sky forever, he irritated Zeus Greek
Atma, The divine spark, whatever that is, in humans India
Atoja, Goddess of rain Peru
Atropos, Oldest of the Fates Greek
Attabeira See Atabei
Attabeira Atahensic, Goddess of the sky, who fell to earth Iroquois
Attar, God of the morning star Canaan/Semitic(West)
Attis, God of plants Roman
Atua Fafine Tikopia, Creator being Polynesia
Atua I Kafika Tikopia, Supreme god viewed as a intercessor rather than a Controller Polynesia
Atua I Raropuka Tikpoa, Creator deity Polynesia
Atugan, Goddess of earth and the source of all life whose power is beyond understanding but can be bestowed Mongol
Atum, Bisexual god of water Egypt
Atunis, God similar to Adonis Etruscan
Au, God of the sun and sky lord Gilbert Is.
Au Co, Creator of humanity Vietnam
Auchimalgen, Goddess of the moon Chile
Audjal, Goddess of the earth Caroline Is.
Aufaniae, Collective name for some mother goddesses Celtic
Augeus, God of healing Greek
Augralids, Goddesses of justice Greek
Auilix, God of dawn Mayan
Aura, Goddess of morning and of the wind Greek
Aurita, Goddess who heals earaches Roman
Aurora, Goddess of warriors and of the dawn Roman
Ausaitis, God of health Lithuania
Auseklis, Goddess linked to fertility, involved in the heavenly bathhouse Latvia
Auset, Goddess of Sirius Egypt
Austeja, Bee goddess Lithuania
Auster See Notus
Austrine, Goddess of the dawn Lithuania/Baltic
Autyeb, Goddess of happiness and joy Egypt
Auxesia, Goddess of growth Greek
Avalokitesvara, Buddha designate Buddhist/India
Avatar, Incarnation of a deity Hindu
Avatea, God of the moon Hervey Is.
averik Huichol See Tayau
Averruncus, Goddess of childbirth, specifically of the delivery Roman
Aversa, Goddess pictured carrying an ax Etruscan
Aveta, Goddess of healing waters Celtic
Avfruvva, Goddess of rivers Finnish
Avrikiti Fon, Goddess of fisherman Benin
Awitelin Tsita, Goddess of the earth Zuni
Awonawilona, Chief deity Pueblo/Zuni
Axiocersa, Goddess of the earth Phrygian
Axo Mama, Goddess of the potato crops Peru
Aya, Goddess of dawn and war Mesopotamia
Ayaba, Goddess of the hearth Dahomean
Ayas, Keeper of the old tablets with the words of fate Hittite
Ayauhteot, Goddess of the moon Chile
Ayauhteotl, Goddess of fog and mist Aztec
Ayi' Uru'n Toyoy'n Yakut See Uru'n Ajy Toyo'n
Ayida, Goddess of rainbows Haiti
Ayiyanayaka, God of fields and woodland who protects against plague Sri Lanka
Ayizan, Goddess who protects the market place Haiti
Aylekete, God of the sea and a member of the Vodun gods Fon
Ayt'ar, God of procreation Slavic
Ayurvasita, Minor goddess Buddhist
Ayyapan, God of growth Hindu
Azacca, Agriculture god Haiti
Azapane See Bele
Azele Yaba, Goddess of justice Africa
Azer Ava, Goddess of the sky Finnish/Ugric
Azer Ava, Goddess of justice Slavic
Azi, Red headed earth spirits who like human company, they appreciate eloquence, musical talent, tobacco, tea, and of all and reward models who please them. Those who irritate them forfeit their souls Buryat
Aziri, Goddess of possessions Africa
Azizos, Astral god representing the the morning star Palmyra
Ba, Goddess of drought China
Ba, Fertility deity Egypt
Ba Maguje, Spirit of drunkenness Hausa
Ba Xian, Collective name for gods China/Taoist
Ba'Alat See Baalat
Ba-Pef, Malevolent underworld god Egypt
Baal, God of the thunderstorm, war, good harvests, fertility, nature, winter rain and of storms Phoenicia
Baal, God of fertility Syria
Baal, Storm god[originally meant lord] Canaan
Baal Brathy, Mountain deity Phoenicia
Baal Hammon, Sweety of Tanit Carthage
Baal Malage, Local god known from inscription Phoenicia/Canaan
Baal Samin[Lord of Heaven], Head of the pantheon Phoenicia/Canaan
Baal Sapon, Mountain deity Phoenicia/Canaan
Baalat, Queen of the gods, partial to books, libraries and writers Phoenicia
Baalshamin, God of the sky Semitic
Baau, Creator goddess Phoenicia
Bab, Disrespectful rouge of a god Egypt
Baba, Goddess of healing and fertility Sumeria
Baba Yaga, Goddess Autumn and death Slavic
Babylon See Isara Mesopotamia
Babylon See Sulman Mesopotamia
Bacabs, They stand at the four corners of the world supporting the heavens Mayan
Bacax, Cave god known from inscription at Crita Roman/Africa(north)
Bacchus, God Of revelry and wine Roman
Bachu, Ancestral goddess Chibcha
Backlum Chaam, God of male sexuality and of sex Mayan
Badb, Much feared serpent goddess Brazil
Badb, Goddess of war Ireland
Badb See Morrigu
Badb Catha See Badb
Badi Mata, Mother goddess Hindu
Bagala, Goddess with the power of cruelty Hindu
Bagba, Fetish who controls the wind and rain Africa(west)
Bagishi Kafir, God of flood waters and posterity Afghanistan
Bagvarti Urat, Tutelary goddess Armenia
Bahu, Goddess of Leo India
Baiame, God of all things and master of life death Aus
Baiji, Goddess of health and epidemics China
Baile of the Honeyed Speech, God of Blarney Ireland
Baj Bajania, Rather joyous forest god Yakut
Bala, Mother goddess Hindu
Bala, Messenger goddess Jain
Bala-Sakti, Goddess Dravidian
Balakrsna, They are guardian deities Mayan
Balaparmita, Philosophical deity Buddhist
Balarama, God of agriculture India
Baldaer, Dying god, identical to Balder Anglo-Saxon
Balder, Dying god, aslo god of poetry norse
Baldr See Balder
Bali, Demonic god Hindu/Puranic/Epic
Ball Hermon, Mountain deity Phoenicia
Balor, God of death Ireland
Baltis, Local goddess Arabic
Ban Chuideachaidh Moire, Goddess Ireland
Ban Naomha, Goddess of war Ireland
Banba, Part of a triad with Fotia and Eriu and as well as an goddess of the earth Ireland
Banbha Cavillaca, Virgin Goddess who was impregnated by a sneaky god Peru
Banebdjedet, God possibly involved with arbitration Egypt
Banemdedet, God of sexual fertility Egypt
Banga Ngbandi, Creator god and creator of white skinned people Zaire
Bangala See Libanza Upotos
Banka Mundi, Goddess of hunting India
Bar, God of mountains, war, deserts, battle Syria
Barastar Ossetian, God who judges souls, sending them to paradise or oblivion Caucasus
Baron Samedi, God of death magic and the underworld Haiti/Vodun
Barong, Protective spirit Bali
Barsamin, Weather/sky god Armenia
Basamum, God of healing Arabic
Bast, Cat goddess, healing, life and war Egypt
Bastet, Goddess of fertility, love, sex,of joy Egypt
Batak See Mula Djadi Tobak
Batara Guru, God who made the earth Indonesia
Baty, Cow goddess of fertility Egypt
Bau, Goddess of the dawn and the sky Phoenicia
Bau, Goddess of fertility Sumeria
Baubo, Goddess of bawdy laughter Greek
Bebhionn, Goddess of healing Ireland
Bechoil, Goddess whose legends have been lost Ireland
Becuma, Goddess who ruled over magical boats Ireland
Beda, Goddess of unknown responsibilities germanic
Beelsamin, God of the sun and lord of the sky Phoenicia
Befana, Goddess of winter who was kind, each January fifth she distributes goodies to good children and lumps of coal to those who are not Roman
Beg-Tse, God of war Buddhist/Tibet
Behanzin Fon, Fish god Benin
Beiwe, Goddess of the Summer solstice and war Saami/Lappland
Bel, Generic term means Lord, not god as some claim Babylon/Akkadia
Belata-Cardu, God of the destruction of your enemies Gaul
Belatucadros, God of war British
Bele, God of fear, mischief and trickery who gave fire and water to mankind Sudan/Africa
Bele Alua, Tree goddess Ghana
Belenos See Borvo
Belenus, God charged with the welfare of sheep and cattle, he also was God of the sun and healer in some regions and associated with Beltane Pan-Celtic
Belet-Seri, Goddess of the underworld, who kept track of the dead coming through Babylon/Akkadia
Belili, Goddess of the moon Mesopotamia
Belisama, Goddess of the Mersey River British
Belisama, Goddess of crafts and the forge Gaul
Belit Ilani, Goddess of warriors Babylon
Belit Seri, Goddess of justice and fairness Babylon
Belit-Ili, Mother goddess Babylon/Akkadia
Belitsari See Belet-Seri
Bella Penu, Local deity Khond(India)
Bellona, Goddess of war and mother goddess Roman
Belobog, God of happiness, luck, and order Belun/Slavic
Belogob, God of the living Slavic
Beltiya, Generic name for goddesses Babylon/Akkadia
Bendis, Goddess of the moon and Mother goddess Thrace
Bentakumari, Goddess of water India
Benten See Benzi-Ten
Benten-San, Goddess of good fortune,one of seven fortune deities Japan/Shinto
Benu, God of the sun in a bird like form Egypt
Benzai-Tenno See Benzi-Ten
Benzi-Ten, Goddess of eloquence, language, arts, fortune, water, and knowledge Japan
Bera Pennu, Vegetation goddess India
Berecyntia, Goddess of the earth Gaul
Bereginy, Goddesses of hunting Slavic
Bereguni, River nymphs accused of stealing newborn children Slavic
Berenice, Goddess of Coma Berenices Egypt
Bertha, Goddess of spinning norse
Beru, Butterfly demon who appears at the female puberty rites Brazil
Bes, God of childbirth, food, love, marriage, luck, recreation, relaxation and sleep Egypt
Bethel, Local tutelary god Phoenicia
Bhadra, Minor goddess Hindu/Puranic
Bhaga, Minor sun god Hindu/Puranic/Vedic
Bhagavan, Tutelary god India
Bhaiarva, Minor form of Siva Hindu/Puranic
Bhairavi, Goddess of terror Hindu
Bhaisajyaguru, Medicine Buddha Buddhist/Tibet
Bharani, Minor goddess of misfortune Hindu/Puranic/Epic
Bharat Mata, Mother goddess who is the mother of India Hindu
Bharati, Minor goddess of sacrifices Hindu/Vedic/Epic
Bhavanavasi, Generic name given to deities who look youthful Jain
Bhavani, Goddess of midwives India
Bhima, Minor goddess Buddhist
Bhima, Warrior and rain god Hindu/Puranic/Epic
Bhimsen See Bhima
Bhimul Pen See Bhima
Bhrkuti-Tara, Mother goddess and Buddha designate Buddhist/Tibet
Bhumi, Collective name for a group of deities Buddhist/Vajrayana
Bhumi Devata, Vegetation goddess India
Bhumidevi, Goddess of fertility Hindu/Puranic/Epic
Bhumiya, Fertility and guardian god of the fields Hindu/Puranic/Vedic
Bhut, Rather nasty evil spirit so don't irritate it India
Bhutadamara, God Buddhist/Mahayana
Bhutamata, Terrible goddess, a frightening form of Parveti Hindu
Bhuvanesvari, Goddess Hindu
Bi-har, Guardian deity who protects against demons Buddhist/Tibet
Bia, Goddess of force Greek
Bibi, Goddess of healing and cholera Gypsy
Biblys, Goddess of fountains Greek
Biddy Mannion, Goddess of midwives Ireland
Bidhgoe, Goddess of love and of sexuality Celtic
Bikeh Hozho, Goddess of happiness Navaho
Bila, Goddess of war Australia
Biliku, Goddess of weavery, storytelling, arts and crafts Native American
Bing Yi See He Bo
Bintang, Goddess of love Borneo
Binzuru-Sonja, God of fine vision and curing who is unable to escape pain, therefore he helps others to do so Japan
Birdu, Minor underworld god Babylon/Akkadia
Bisal Mariamna, Goddess of war India
Bisam, Goddess of health and diseases India
Bishamon, One of the seven gods of luck and the Buddhist patron of warriors Japan
Bishamon-Ten, God of wealth and protector of human life who chases demons Japan
Bishamontenno See Bishamon-Ten
Bitol, Sky god[one of 7] who helped create the world and its mortals Mayan
Bladud, God of the sun Welsh
Blathnat, Maiden form of the triple goddess Ireland/Welsh
Blid, Goddess of happiness norse
Bo Dhu, Black cow goddess Ireland
Bo Find, White cow goddess Ireland
Bo Hsian, God China/Taoist
Bo Ruadh, Goddess who helped bring fertility to barren Ireland Ireland
Boann, Goddess of fertility and the river Boyne Ireland
Boannan Boyne See Boann
Bochica, Supreme sun god and a god of law Chibcha
Bodua, Goddess of war Celtic
Bodva See Badb
Boibhniu, Blacksmith god Celtic
Boinne Guary See Guaire
Bokwus, Wild spirit of the woodlands Kwakiutl
Bolbe, Lake goddess Greek
Boldogasszony, Virgin goddess who protected mothers and children Hungary
Bolon Ti Ku, Collective name for the the nine underworld gods who are not well defined Mayan
Bombat KaMayann, Local deceased goddess Hindu
Bomo Rambi, Goddess of the moon Zimbabwe
Bomong, Goddess of war Minyong
Bomu Rambi See Bomo Rambi
Bona Dea, Goddess of fertility, great prophecy, the dispenser of healing herbs and rather prim and chaste Roman
Bonchor, God thought to be the creator deity Tunisia
Boora Pennu Khondi, God of light who created the goddess of the earth and they made the other great gods India
Boraspati ni Tano, Earth spirit Batak
Boreas, God of the North wind Greek
Borghild, Goddess of the moon norse
Bormanus, God of hot springs Celtic/Briton
Bormanus See Borvo
Bormonia, Goddess of healing Roman
Borvo, God of hot springs who replaced his mother Sirona British/Gaul
Brag srin mo, Goddess of fertility and an ancestral goddess Tibet
Bragi, God of eloquence and wisdom norse
Brahani, Mother goddess Hindu/Puranic/Epic
Brahma, Supreme god and creator of the cosmos Hindu
Brahma, Creator god, part of the main hindu trinity, the other two being Vishnu and Shiva. Brahma is the unmoved, uncaused first cause, and he created everything. Hindu
Branab Llyr, God of the dead and can restore them life Celtic
Brangwaine, Goddess of love Welsh
Branwen, Venus of the Northern Seas and a goddess of love Ireland/Welsh/Manx
Branwyn See Branwen
Breasal, High King of the entire planet Welsh/Cornwall
Breksta, Goddess of darkness Lithuania
Brenos, God of war Celtic
Bres Maclatha, Vegetation god Ireland
Brhaspati, Astral god personifying Jupiter Hindu/Puranic/Epic
Briant, Goddess of the river which holds her name
Bridget See Brigantia
Brigantia, Goddess of sovereignty Britishnia British
Brigantia, Goddess of the seasons, doctors smiths, poets, and women in childbirth Pan-Celtic
Brigantis, Goddess of the moon Celtic
Brighid, Goddess of education, healing, sore eyes Celtic
Brighid, Goddess of metal working Gaelic
Brigit See Brigantia
Brigit, Goddess of fertility Ireland
Brihaspati, God of incantation and ritual India
Brimo, Death goddess Greek
Brisaya, Goddess of the dawn Greek
Britannia, Genia Lor of British British
Britomartis, Goddess depicted as a hunter Crete
Brizo, Goddess worshiped as a prophet Delos Greek
Brome, Nymph who was a nurse for Dionysus Greek
Bromo See Borvo
Bronach, Goddess linked to forgotten Samhain rituals Ireland
Brono, God of light norse
Buadza Gan, God of the wind Ghana
Bubastis, Goddess of childbirth Egypt
Bubilas, Goddess of bees Lithuania
Buddha, Deified after his death India
Buddhaalocana, Goddess and female Buddha Buddhist/Shingon
Buddhabodhiprabhavasita, Minor goddess Buddhist
Buddhaheruka See Vairocana
Buddhakapala, God Buddhist/Mahayana
Budha, Astral god Hindu/Puranic/Buddhist/Vedic/Epic
Budhi Pallien, Goddess of the forest India
Buga, Supreme god Siberia/Tungus
Bugady Musun, Goddess who was the mother of all animals Evenki
Bugid Y Alba, God of war Haiti/Puerto Rico
Buk Neur, Goddess of rivers and streams Sudan
Buku, God/goddess of the sky Africa(west)
Bulaing Karadjeri, Goddess Australia
Bulan, Goddess of the moon Indonesia/Malaysia
Bulane, God of water Mozambique
Buluc Chabtan, God of war Mayan
Buluga Andaman, God Islands
Bumba Bantu, God of fire Africa
Bumerali, Goddess of physical prowess Australia
Bunbulama, Goddess of rain Australia
Bunzi, Rain goddess Zaire
Buri, One of two primordial beings norse
Buriyas, God of war Iran/Kassite
Burundi See Imana Banyarwanda
Bussumarus See Ambisagrus
Bussumarus Amelia, Loa of Haiti Haiti/Vodun
Buto, Cobra god of Lower Egypt and justice Egypt
Buxenus, God of box trees Gaul
C(co)chimetl, Minor god of merchants and commerce Aztec
Ca the a, Goddess of love Mojave
Cabaguil, God who helped create the world and mortals Mayan
Caca, Goddess of fire Roman
Cacoh, Creator god Mayan
Caelestis, Goddess of the moon Carthage
Caer Ibormeith, Usually thought of as a goddess of sleep and dreams Ireland
Cagn Mantis, Creator Africa
Cailleach See Caillech
Caillech, Goddess of winter and the goddess in her destroyer aspect Ireland/Scotland/Manx
Caireen, Protective mother goddess Ireland
Caishen, God of wealth China
Cakra, Mind of the creator Hindu
Cakresvari, Goddess of learning Jain
Cakulha, God of the lessor lightning bolts Mayan
Calliope, Muse of of poetry and eloquence bonds Greek
Callisto, Nymph Greek
Cally Berry, Maiden goddess Ireland
Calounger, Death goddess and/or Goddess of the sea Brazil
Calypso, Nymph who kept Odysseus captive for seven years Greek
Camaxtli, God of war and fire as well as one of the 4 gods who created the world Aztec
Camaxtli, Here he is a god of fate Mayan
Camenae, Goddess of springs and rivers Roman
Camenae See Kam,enae
Camilla, Goddess of fire Italy
Camozotz, Bat god Mayan
Campestres, Lost goddess of fields Roman/Gaul
Camulos, God of war [Colchester ?] Briton
Canda, Terrible goddess and a distinct form of Durga Hindu/Puranic/Epic
Candali, Goddess of terrible appearance Buddhist/Tibet
Candamius, Astral god Roman/Iberia
Candanyika, Distinctive form of Durga Hindu/Puranic/Epic
Candavati, Form of Durga Hindu/Puranic/Epic
Candelifera, Goddess of childbirth and midwives Roman
Candesvari, Minor goddess who stands upon a corpse Buddhist/Mahayana
Candfrasekhara, Form of Siva Hindu/Puranic
Candi, Goddess Durga in her moon form India
Candika, Goddess of desire Hindu/Puranic/Epic
Candit, Goddess of streams Sudan
Candogra, Goddess, a distinctive form of Durga Hindu/Puranic/Epic
Candra, Planet god commonly affiliated with the moon Hindu/Puranic/Buddhist/Epic
Candsvera, Minor god and benevolent aspect of Siva Hindu/Puranic/Epic
Canidia, Goddess of the moon who was also a sorceress Greek
Cankilikkaruppan, Local god Hindu/Dravidian/Tamil
Canola, Believed to be one of the oldest of the Ireland deities Ireland
Caolainn, Goddess of wisdom healing and fertility Ireland
Capakan, God of earthquakes and mountains Mayan
Cardea, Goddess of door hinges Roman
Carika, Goddess of the repetitive chant Buddhist
Cariociecus, God of war Roman/Iberia
Carlin See Caillech
Carlin, Goddess of winter and Shaimin Scotland
Carman, Goddess of County Wexford and black magic Ireland
Carme, Nymph and companion of Artemis Greek
Carmenta, Goddess of childbirth and midwives, prophecy and springs Roman
Carmentes, Minor goddesses of birth Roman
Carna, Goddess of health Roman
Carne, Most likely another version of Herne British/Cornwall
Carravogue, Goddess of winter from County Meath Crone British/Ireland
Carridwen, Goddess of the moon Welsh
Caryatis, Goddess of healing Greek
Castalia, Goddess of springs Greek
Catana See Anu
Catequil, God of lightning and thunder Inca
Cathubodia, Briton version of the Ireland goddess of the earth Banbha Briton
Cathubodua, Goddess of war Pan-Celtic
Caturmurti, Specific form of Vishnu [4 faces] Hindu/Puranic/Epic
Cauri, Goddess of terrifying appearance Buddhist/Tibet
Cavillaca, Virgin goddess who was impregnated by a sneaky god Peru
Ce Actal, Minor creator god Aztec
Ceacht, Goddess of medicine Ireland
Cebhfhionn, Goddess of inspiration Ireland
Ceile De See Kele De
Ceiuci, Star goddess who created all animals Brazil
Celedones, Goddesses of happiness Greek
Cenkalaniyammal, Local goddess who guards the paddy fields Hindu/Dravidian/Tamil
Centeocihuatl, Goddess of maize Aztec
Centeotl, Maize god Aztec
Centzon-Totochtin, Party gods, a drunken and immoral group who meet frequently Aztec
Ceres, Goddess of agriculture, grain and summer Roman
Ceridwen, Goddess of inspiration and the hag aspect of the mother goddess Welsh
Cerklicing, God of fields and grain Latvia
Cernunnos, God of fertility and the horned god Pan-Celtic
Cernunnos, God of prosperity Roman
Cerridwen, Goddess of mountains British
Cerridwen, Goddess of fertility Celtic
Cerridwen, Moon, grain, education and healing goddess Welsh/Scotland
Cessair, Well known pre-Celtic mother goddess Ireland
Cethlion, Goddess of the sea and the Formorians Ireland
Ceto, Goddess of the sea Greek
Ceyon See Murukan
Cghene, Creator god with no material aspect, but a nice guy, no temple or priest Nigeria/Isoko
Ch'ang O, Goddess of the moon China
Ch'ang Tsai, God of the spleen China
Ch'eng Huang, God of the land,ditches, moats and the people China
Ch'I-You, God of weapons, dancers, smiths and war China
Ch'ih Sung tzu, Lord of the rain China
Ch'ing Lung, God of the lungs China
Ch'ung Ling yu, God of the nose China
Chac, God of lightning, rain, thunder, wind and fertility Mayan
Chac Mol See Chac
Chac Uayab Xoc, Fish god known as the great demon shark Mayan
Chac Xib Chac, God of sacrifice and war Mayan
Chahuru, Spirit of water Pawnee
Chaitanya, Mendicant god Hindu/Puranic
Chakwaina Okya, Goddess of childbirth Zuni
Chalchiuhtlcue, Goddess rain and storms, violence, vitality, lakes, whirlpools, rivers, water , love, beauty and youth Don't make this one mad whatever you do. Aztec
Chalchiutotolin, Penitence god Aztec
Challalamma, Goddess of buttermilk [?] India
Chalmeacacihuitl, Minor underworld goddess Aztec
Chalmetcal, Minor underworld god Aztec
Chamer, God of death Mayan
Chan Hs'ien, Guardian god of children who had been a mortal King China
Chandika See Narasinhi
Chandra, God of the moon Vedic
Chang Fei, God of war and butchers China
Chang Hsien, God of dreams and of pregnancy China
Chang Pan, God of masons China
Chang Tao Ling, God of the afterlife and head of the heavenly Ministry of exorcism Taoist/Chan
Chang Xi, Goddess of the moon China
Chang Yong, Goddess of justice China
Changing Woman, Goddess of the moon Cherokee
Chango, Warrior god who defends against enemies who want the land, wealth and women Africa
Chantico, Goddess of hearth fires and volcanoes. Aztec
Chao san Niang, Goddess of wig salesmen China
Chao T'eng k'ang, God of the bowels China
Chaob, Wind god Mayan/Lacandon
Chaos, Mother of the gods Babylon
Charis, Minor goddess Greek
Chasca, Goddess of the dawn and the dew Inca
Chattrosnia, God Buddhist
Chaya, Goddess Hindu/Puranic/Epic
Chebeldei, Inhabitants of the lower world Siberia
Chemosh, Head god Moab
Chen Kao, God of the ears China
Cheng San Kung, God of fishing China
Cheng Yuan ho, God of strolling singers China
Chernobog, God of chaos and the night Slavic
Cherubim, Guardians of important places and they intercede both with the gods/and for the gods Mesopotamia
Chhih of warg tzu, God of rain China
Chi Po, God of the winds China
Chi Sung Tzu, Rain god China
Chia, Goddess of the moon Chiboa
Chiang, Goddess of agriculture China
Chibchacum, God of farmers and merchants Chibcha
Chibiabos, Brother of Nanabush Algonquin
Chibilias, Goddess of the rainbow Mayan
Chibirias, Goddess of the earth, who sends the rain and paints the earth Mayan
Chiccan, Gods of rain Mayan
Chickcharney, Small furred/feathered spirit of the forest Andros Is/Bahamas
Chicoahui Itzcuintli-Chantico, God of lapidaries Aztec
Chicomecoatl, Goddess of grain, fertility and frost Aztec
Chicomenochtli, God of painters and solar pleasure[not my claim] Aztec
Chiconahui, Hgoddess of the earth Aztec
Chicoonahuiehecatl, Minor creator god Aztec
Chie, Fun loving goddess Chibcha
Chih Jih, God of the day China
Chih Nii, Goddess of spinning China
Chih Nu, Goddess of weaving China
Chikara Korekore, Sky god Zimbabwe
Chimalmat, Goddess of the Little Dipper Mayan
Chimata No Kami, God of crossroads, roads and footpaths Japan
Chimera, Goddess of volcanoes Greek
Chiminagua, Omnipotent god who created the earth in a rather simple matter Chibcha
Chin hua Niang niang, God of drums and violins China
Ching Ling Tzu, God of tea China
Chinnamastaka, Goddess, a headless form of Durga Hindu/Puranic/Epic
Chinnintamma, Goddess of households India
Chio Yuan Tzu, God of the brain China
Chipiripa, Rain god Curra
Chirakan Ixmucane, One of the new goddess formed by the 4 gods who made the world Mayan
Chiuacoztl, Goddess of childbirth Nahu
Chiuke Ibo, Sky god who is also regarded as Creator god Nigeria
Chlaus Haistic, Ancient goddess of unknown function Ireland
Chloris, Goddess of flowers Greek
Chnum, God Egypt
Chokmah, Goddess of order and wisdom Spain
Chol Nuer See Col
Cholmus, Creator of animals Siberia
Chonsu, God of the moon Egypt
Chors, Pre-Christian sun god Balkans
Chos-Skyon, Tutelary guardian deity Buddhist/Tibet
Chou Wang, God of sodomy China
Chowa, Goddess of health India
Christalline, Evil goddess of the sea Haiti
Chronos See Cronus
Chronus See Cronus
Chu jung, God of fire and the celestial executioner China
Chu Niao, God of the heart China
Chu Ying, God of the eyes China
Chuang Mu, Goddess of the bedroom China
Chuginadak, Goddess of fire and volcano Aleut
Chuh Kamuy, Goddess of the moon China
Chul Tatic Chites Vaneg, Creator god Mayan
Chulavete, Goddess of the morning star Mexico
Chun T'i, Goddess of the dawn and warriors China
Chunda, Goddess of happiness Buddhist
Chung K'uei, God of the afterlife who belongs to the Ministry of exorcism China/Taoist
Chung kuei, Protector of those who travel and god of examinations China
Chung Liu, God of eaves China
Chup, Goddess of the wind and rain Chumash
Chup Kamui, Goddess of war and the sun Japan/Ainu
Cian, God of medicine Ireland
Cihuacoatl, Goddess whose roaring signaled war Aztec
Cihuacoatl-Quilaztli, Creator goddess with a rather unique way of creating humanity Aztec
Cihuateto, Women who die in childbirth, gain eternal life and become spirits who accompany the sun Aztec
Cinei, Goddess of the sea Siberia/Chukchee
Cinteotl, God of fertility Aztec
Cinteotl, God of Maize Nahu
Cinxia, Minor goddess of marriage[ She worries over the attire of the bride] Roman
Cipactli, Primordial goddess of water Aztec
Circe, Goddess of healing and of herbs Greek
Cista, Goddess of the morning star Persia
Cit Bolon Tum, God of medicine Mayan
Cit Cac Coh, God of war iconised as a red Puma Mayan
Citalatonac, Creator god Aztec
Citlalicue, Creator goddess and the goddess of Milky Way Aztec
Citra, Minor goddess of misfortune and a malevolent astral deity Hindu/Puranic/Epic
Citrasena, Goddess Buddhist/Mahayana
Cittavasita, Minor goddess Buddhist
Cizin, God of death Mayan
Clairm'e, River loa Haiti/Vodun
Clairmezin'e, Goddess of rivers Haiti
Clementia, Goddess who was invoked to protect the citizen against the emperor's absolute use of power Roman
Cleone, Goddess of water Greek
Clio, Goddess of history Roman/Greek
Cliodna, Goddess Ireland/Scotland
Clota, Goddess and namesake of the River Clyde British/Welsh/Scotland
Coatlicue, Goddess of the earth Aztec
Coatrischie, Goddess of water, winds, and storms Cuba/Taino
Coca Mama, Goddess of health, happiness and the coca plant Peru
Cocha, Goddess of rain Peru
Cocidius See Segomo
Cocidus, Goddess of hunting British
Cocijo, Rain god Zapotec/Mexico
Col, Rain and thunderstorms god Sudan
Colel Cab, Chthonic goddess of the earth Mayan
Colleda, Goddess of the winter solstice Koliada/Serbia
Colop U Uichkin, Sky god who, with a night avatara of the same name, is the bringer of disease Mayan
Comus, God of banquets, drunkenness and merriment Roman/Greek
Conchenn, Goddess of love Celtic
Concordia, Goddess of harmony, peace and justice Roman
Condatis, Local god Roman/British
Condwiramur, Goddess of sovereignty Welsh
Coniraya, Creator of all things and founder of agriculture Quechua
Consentes See Pan
Consus, God of counseling and negotiation Roman
Copia, Goddess of prosperity Roman
Corchen, Goddess of which very little is known Ireland/Manx
Cordelia See Creiddylad
Core See Kore
Corra, Goddess of prophecy and who regularly appeared in the form of a crane Scotland
Corus, God of the wind Roman
Coti Bushman, Goddess of hunting Africa
Cotys, Goddess of the earth who presided over debauchery Phrygian
Cotys, Goddess of fertility Thrace
Coventina, Goddess of healing, wells and water Celtic
Coyolxauhqui, Goddess of the moon Aztec
Coyote, Demigod/creator/trickster Pan-W.USA
Cratos, God of strength Greek
Credne, God of metallurgy and smithing Ireland
Creiddylad, Goddess of summer flowers and the sea Welsh
Creidhne, God of Metal working Celtic
Creudylad See Creiddylad
Crionis, God of rivers Greek
Crnobog, God of death Slavic
Crnoglav See Crnobog
Crobh See Inghean
Crobh Dearg, Goddess of war Ireland
Cromm Cruaich, Ancient deity Ireland
Crone, Third aspect of the Triple goddess Ireland
Cronos, Minor harvest and God of the sun with Greek roots Celtic
Cronus, God of and agriculture who became king of the Titans for a while Greek
Crove Dairg See Crobh Dearg
Cu Chulain, God of warriors and chivalry Celtic
Cuba, Goddess children's sleep and infants Roman
Cuchulainn See Cu Chulain
Cueravaperi, Goddess of rain and drought Mexico
Cumhau, God of death Mayan
Cunda, Goddess considered a deification of literature Buddhist/Tibet
Cunina, Goddess of infants who are in the cradle Roman
Cupid, God of love Roman
Cura, Goddess of healing Roman
Curche See Kurke
Cutzi, Goddess of the moon Americas
Cuvto ava, Goddess of trees Russia
Cybele, Goddess of forests, mountains, and fertility Phrygian
Cybele

TravelJunkie

Wicknight wrote: »

some of the things on Satan's plan are good though, aren't they? Doubt can be good, so can discouragement.

No. but christian life aside, both doubt and discouragement are negative. Everyone should agree positive attitude is better than negative.

For a christian, the question is where does this negativity come from? You can only fight it if you know where it starts.

Zombrex

TravelJunkie wrote: »

No. but christian life aside, both doubt and discouragement are negative. Everyone should agree positive attitude is better than negative.

I wouldn't agree with that.

Doubt has lead to some of the most amazing breakthroughs in understanding, from science to art, in human history, when someone looked at something that everyone said was true and doubted. People are wrong. A lot. It is healthy to doubt what you have been told by others (including religion) and what you believe yourself.

Discouragement often stops people from doing stupid things. A friend of mine a few months ago wanted to cheat on his boyfriend. I told him not to do it. He didn't. They broke up soon afterwards (which I think was good), but I know my friend would have felt really bad if he had cheated.

Doubt and discouragement certainly have their places in this world.

AtomicHorror

TravelJunkie wrote: »

No. but christian life aside, both doubt and discouragement are negative. Everyone should agree positive attitude is better than negative.

For a christian, the question is where does this negativity come from? You can only fight it if you know where it starts.

Well if you just assume it comes from Satan then you're probably not going to to much to fight productively it, are you? Far better to look for the real source of such issues, typically ourselves, and rationally assess whether they are relevant or not.

Doubt is very much a positive thing. It is fully correct to doubt unusual claims until there is evidence. It's fully correct to discourage immoral actions.

Fanny Cradock

Overblood, I'm sorely tempted to delete your last post. If you cant grasp the fact that Christian reject all other gods then you should really devote a considerable amount of time to perusing the basics of Christianity.

pingpongz, you get one chance. Read the charter and make sure that you don't troll again.

Zombrex

Fanny Cradock wrote: »

If you cant grasp the fact that Christian reject all other gods then you should really devote a considerable amount of time to perusing the basics of Christianity.

I think that was his point.

Christians happily doubt other gods. They happily discourage worshipping other gods.

Doubt and discouragement are not tools of the devil. Doubting your god is not a tool of the devil, any more than you doubting any of those gods Overblood listed is a tool of the devil.

Doubt is good, it is healthy.

Fanny Cradock

Wicknight wrote: »

I think that was his point.

Christians happily doubt other gods. They happily discourage worshipping other gods.

Doubt and discouragement are not tools of the devil. Doubting your god is not a tool of the devil, any more than you doubting any of those gods Overblood listed is a tool of the devil.

Doubt is good, it is healthy.

Did I say otherwise? I've not mentioned anything about doubt - something that I actually think can be healthy. I'm talking about a post that manages to hog most of the screen with a massive list of gods we all know Christians reject (bar Yahwey). It is unnecessary and unacceptable, and dare I say, in terms of internet decorum, it is also a little rude.

It should be noted that there is an obvious distinction to be made between God and god(s).

Overblood

Fanny Cradock wrote: »

If you cant grasp the fact that Christian reject all other gods then you should really devote a considerable amount of time to perusing the basics of Christianity..

If you can doubt the 1000 Gods listed here, why can't you doubt one more?

And if doubt is "Satan's plan" and Faith is "Gods plan", what is your approach to the Gods listed? Doubt them or have faith in them?

Fanny Cradock

You could have simply asked your question rather than posting the list. Also, as per your post, you should also be aware of the distinction between God and god when you are talking to a Christian. The former is a proper noun because 'God' is the name of the Christian deity.

If you really must know, I have doubted God at times. But having the occasional doubt doesn't mean that you don't believe in him. So I'm not sure what this focus on doubt is all about. Indeed, that doubt has often fuelled my desire to investigate the whole 'God' question further rather than resting on my laurels.

Your initial question is about as sensible as me asking you to not doubt one less deity - God (note the capital G).

Zombrex

Fanny Cradock wrote: »

Did I say otherwise? I've not mentioned anything about doubt

You appear to be agreeing with Overblood's point, a point that has apparently not been realised by the OP and others who agree with him.

If you think the post was too long for Boards.ie that is fair enough. But that wasn't what you were giving out about. You were saying Overblood doesn't understand Christianity and then proceeded to agree with his point

Fanny Cradock wrote: »

It should be noted that there is an obvious distinction to be made between God and god(s).

Which is?

kelly1

Why is it that virtually every thread on this forum descends into silly bickering?

Zombrex

kelly1 wrote: »

Why is it that virtually every thread on this forum descends into silly bickering?

Because you guys seem incapable of simply saying "that is a good point", if an atheist makes it

If an atheist had started this thread, saying something like "I really don't like the way in Christianity you aren't supposed to doubt things" you would have 50 Christians posters coming on saying that doubt is good, healthy and fully in line with theistic belief.

But if a Christian says doubt is the work of Satan and an atheist says "That doesn't make sense" you guys starting giving out that we don't understand Christianity :rolleyes:

Overblood

Fanny Cradock wrote: »

You could have simply asked your question rather than posting the list.

No I think the people here need to see just how many different gods and religions they are dismissing over their ONE. Even I was surprised at the size of the list.

It should be noted that there is an obvious distinction to be made between God and god(s).

Can you explain this distinction please? That your god "God" is creator of everything, and the slavic god of thunder just created thunder? I honestly don't know, I think the answer is staring me in the face.

Fanny Cradock

Wicknight wrote: »

You appear to be agreeing with Overblood's point, a point that has apparently not been realised by the OP and others who agree with him.

If you think the post was too long for Boards.ie that is fair enough. But that wasn't what you were giving out about. You were saying Overblood doesn't understand Christianity and then proceeded to agree with his point


Which is?

The point of overbloods' offending list, as evidenced by his last post, seems to be simply to show that the other gods Christians reject is somehow newsworthy. It not though! Hence my first post. In fact, it's about as useful as posting in the Man U thread the names of the 1000's of other teams around the world that the supporters don't follow. Admittedly I did not initially explain why I was tempted to delete his post - this was an oversight on my part - but I attempted to clear this up in my response to your interjection. You seem to be confusing this issue with the Christian non-belief in other gods.

By way of clarification.

*The list was too long. I (belatedly) warned OB about this and later suggested that his point could have been as easily made in a sentence [or maybe a link] and saved us all that scrolling.

*I wondered if OB really has much understanding of Christianity if he has to ask Christians if they doubt other gods. Bar the odd person who may severely deviate from mainstream Christianity the rest of us don't believe in Zeus, Athena, Shiva or any other deities you care to post an excessively long list about.

*Doubting God is a separate issue to the point above. I've already given my take on this - which just so happens to be different from a couple of other Christian posters. Ultimately I believe that long-term doubt is undesirable, but I also think that it can have some positive effects. In my case, doubt spurred me on to investigate the God question further.

Fanny Cradock

Overblood wrote: »

No I think the people here need to see just how many different gods and religions they are dismissing over their ONE. Even I was surprised at the size of the list.

Stop arguing. The whole point is that the size of the list - something you have admitted to being surprise at - was unacceptable. The only reason I havent cropped it is because now so much has been written about it.

Overblood wrote: »

Can you explain this distinction please? That your god "God" is creator of everything, and the slavic god of thunder just created thunder? I honestly don't know, I think the answer is staring me in the face.

I've already explained it. A simple point, but it does allude to how Christians to look upon other gods.

Me wrote:

Also, as per your post, you should also be aware of the distinction between God and god when you are talking to a Christian. The former is a proper noun because 'God' is the name of the Christian deity.

kelly1

Wicknight wrote: »

Because you guys seem incapable of simply saying "that is a good point", if an atheist makes it.

If an atheist had started this thread, saying something like "I really don't like the way in Christianity you aren't supposed to doubt things" you would have 50 Christians posters coming on saying that doubt is good, healthy and fully in line with theistic belief.

But if a Christian says doubt is the work of Satan and an atheist says "That doesn't make sense" you guys starting giving out that we don't understand Christianity :rolleyes:

I was making a more general comment but anyway...

Ordinarily doubt is good. People make mistakes, tell lies, forget, get confused etc. A certain amount of skepticism is healthy so we don't get fooled.

We Christians have faith that God will never let us down based on belief in Jesus and the words He spoke. Now either we accept what Jesus said or we don't. Chrisian have decided that Jesus is trustworthy and that He spoke the truth. Jesus spoke of a God who is loving, merciful and trustworthy and we take His word for it.

I wouldn't want to worship a God who was untrustworthy or didn't care about us. I'm a way it's a bit of a gamble because we are putting all our eggs in one basket but we believe this faith will ultimately be rewarded bountifully.

philologos

Tragic that a thread with such potential has gone into an argument about alternative gods or religions. I'd be full on open to discuss these things in another thread mind.

God: Purity
Satan: Lustfulness

God: Honesty
Satan: Deceit

God: Righteousness
Satan: Sinfulness

Overblood

Jakkass wrote: »

Tragic that a thread with such potential has gone into an argument about alternative gods or religions. I'd be full on open to discuss these things in another thread mind.

God: Purity
Satan: Lustfulness

Lust can lead to sex, which is really our ultimate goal as living entities... "be fruitful and multiply" anyone? Sex is one of the greatest sensations one can experience.

Jakkass wrote: »

God: Righteousness
Satan: Sinfulness

Sinfulness hmm... so have you broken any of the ten commandments lately? Have you ever said "ah jaysus!!!" when you stubbed your toe on the leg of a chair?

And do you think Hitler felt righteous or sinful when he was at work?...

philologos

Overblood wrote: »

Lust can lead to sex, which is really our ultimate goal as living entities... "be fruitful and multiply" anyone? Sex is one of the greatest sensations one can experience.

You really think that is the ultimate purpose of peoples lives?

Lust is objectifying someone for how they look for sexual purposes. Love through knowing ones character as well as ones appearance is really much more fulfilling surely?

Overblood wrote: »

Sinfulness hmm... so have you broken any of the ten commandments lately? Have you ever said "ah jaysus!!!" when you stubbed your toe on the leg of a chair?

And do you think Hitler felt righteous or sinful when he was at work?...

Yes, I have broken some of the Ten Commandments before, but what you do when that happens is ask for God's help to be stronger and to apply the scriptures to your life. Hence God's plan for us, to love Him and to love our neighbour. I personally see that as more important than sexual intimacy anyway.

Zombrex

Jakkass wrote: »

Lust is objectifying someone for how they look for sexual purposes.

No, lust a strong physical desire for something, often sexual. Lust for life, lust for my girlfriend, lust for my wife, lust for the hottie in Spar, lust for that last chocolate brownie.

While I never really got the big objection to "objectifying" someone (I objectify my bank teller, my bus man, my boss and no one bats an eye lid) lust does not imply objectifying someone.

I would be very worried if a married person didn't lust after their wife or husband. Lust does not replace love, it is not one or the other. Love is a mental desire to be with someone on many levels, from holding hands in the park to being beside them as they die. Lust is physical desire to want to shag them. If you have love but no lust then that more non-romantic love than romantic love.

As for something being not as fulfilling that is hardly a reason to say it is bad. Eating the last chocolate brownie that I've been eyeing up for the whole conference (long story) is not a fulfilling as curing cancer. But does that mean it is bad?

Zombrex

Fanny Cradock wrote: »

In fact, it's about as useful as posting in the Man U thread the names of the 1000's of other teams around the world that the supporters don't follow.

Well yes, if someone had started a thread in the Man U forum talking about how silly it is of people not to support a football team like Man United.

It would be perfectly good point, and one that obviously needed to be made, to point out to this Man U supporter all the clubs that he doesn't support, and ask does he think it is silly of him not to support all these teams while claiming it is silly to not support his team.

Your pretence that it is just a given that Christians know that they actually doubt all the time, that they doubt a whole host of other gods and religions, doesn't hold because if it did I really don't think the OP would have started this thread in the first place.

If your objection to the post was that it was too long that is fine. It was long, albeit it was long for effect Overblood obviously didn't mean for someone to actually have to read it all unlike some posters who post very long comments.

But you objection initially was that he didn't get Christianity and this didn't need to be pointed out to Christians, which was a bizarre objection because if it didn't need to be pointed out to Christians this thread wouldn't exist.

But if you are happy to get back to the point at hand Doubt being the work of Satan (a position you disagree with by the away, along with Overblood and myself) then I am happy to as well.

Zombrex

kelly1 wrote: »

We Christians have faith that God will never let us down based on belief in Jesus and the words He spoke. Now either we accept what Jesus said or we don't. Christian have decided that Jesus is trustworthy and that He spoke the truth. Jesus spoke of a God who is loving, merciful and trustworthy and we take His word for it.

Yes but simply because you have made up your mind, now in this moment, you shouldn't abandon doubt.

I don't really know how your personal faith works, but to me it should be a constant case of doubting what you believe because what you are being asked to believe is quite extraordinary and rather important. It must demonstrate itself to be true. And then demonstrate itself again. And then again.

That is not to say that you abandon your religion, just that you should be constantly looking for the decisions you made to be reaffirmed, for the religion to demonstrate to you that you didn't make the wrong decision in picking it.

You should be asking all the tough questions, how do you know what you believe is real, how do you know what you feel is real. Can I be wrong? How do I know I am not wrong? If I was wrong would I be able to tell? How can I get around that to test what I believe?

There should be nothing to fear from doubt. If it is truly possible to know your religion is the truth it should constantly over come your doubt, your probing, your testing.

If it can only do this once or twice and then not again then there is something wrong. If you come to conclude that you could be wrong and you can't tell tell how you can demonstrate you aren't, then there is something wrong. If

Fanny Cradock

Wicknight wrote: »

But you objection initially was that he didn't get Christianity and this didn't need to be pointed out to Christians, which was a bizarre objection because if it didn't need to be pointed out to Christians this thread wouldn't exist.

Wicknight, I've already admitted that my first post was inadequate in it's explanation. I cant rip a hole in time and go back to tell myself to add a better explanation. However, my subsequent posts make it perfectly clear why I objected to his post. But you ignore this and continue to hammer away. As for my 'bizarre objection', see below.

Wicknight wrote: »

Your pretence that it is just a given that Christians know that they actually doubt all the time, that they doubt a whole host of other gods and religions, doesn't hold because if it did I really don't think the OP would have started this thread in the first place.

Pretence? What are you talking about? If some Christians claim that they have never doubted God, fair play to them. This just so happens not to have been the case for me or the other Christians I know. As for doubting other gods - we can't doubt them doubt if we don't believe in them in the first place. So the word doubt - which is defined as 'undecided or uncertain' - is entirely inappropriate and draws this non-issue out.

Wicknight wrote: »

Well yes, if someone had started a thread in the Man U forum talking about how silly it is of people not to support a football team like Man United.

It would be perfectly good point, and one that obviously needed to be made, to point out to this Man U supporter all the clubs that he doesn't support, and ask does he think it is silly of him not to support all these teams while claiming it is silly to not support his team.

Please feel free to try such a thing. But I'm not sure you will like the results.

TravelJunkie

Seeing as I'm the OP and I keep getting referred to by wicknight, let me explain a little about why I posted this. Firstly, it is directed to christians, and specifically referring to their walk with God.

I wasn't referring coming to believe in God in the first place, although, in saying that, I do think Satan would probably make a point of trying to discredit God at any opportunity, to believers or non.

That aside, someone made a point in this thread that doubting God (as a christian) would be helpful to steer us in the direction to learn more about him?
I don't know about that, I think it is a destructive force (for a christian) doubt and faith are opposites. For example, say you have faith in something -it could be that God will look after you no matter what (based on scriptures that he will supply all our needs, that we won't go hungry, etc). If you start to doubt this, then yes, you have to start again, look at all the scriptures, pray, and rebuild this faith. It is not very constructive, this doubt shouldn't of come in. It's like someone turning a square into a circle, thus discovering the wheel, then going back and instead of building a wheel, keep building squares just in case they were wrong and the wheel doesn't work.

Zombrex

TravelJunkie wrote: »

It is not very constructive, this doubt shouldn't of come in. It's like someone turning a square into a circle, thus discovering the wheel, then going back and instead of building a wheel, keep building squares just in case they were wrong and the wheel doesn't work.

Not really. It is like building the wheel and trying it out on your front yard but instead of stopping there and saying the wheel is perfect and brilliant, you then try it out on a hill, then on a rocky slope, then on ice, then on water, then in the snow, then ... etc etc

Every time the wheel passes one of your tests you are more confident that the wheel is a good design.

Obviously at some point a Christian had to go from not believing to believing. At some point Christianity passes what ever test you guys have for accepting a religion. This is like running the wheel on your front yard.

I see no reason to stop there, to assume that yes you are 100% correct, your judgement is perfect, God is exactly how you think he is, Christianity is totally real, now what is for tea.

Christianity passed one test, so why not pass it again. If it is the true religion surely it should pass that test. And the next one. And the next one.

If it doesn't then you need to look at why it didn't, and how that effects your judgement that it is the true religion.

TravelJunkie

Wicknight wrote: »

Not really. It is like building the wheel and trying it out on your front yard but instead of stopping there and saying the wheel is perfect and brilliant, you then try it out on a hill, then on a rocky slope, then on ice, then on water, then in the snow, then ... etc etc

Every time the wheel passes one of your tests you are more confident that the wheel is a good design.
Obviously at some point a Christian had to go from not believing to believing. At some point Christianity passes what ever test you guys have for accepting a religion. This is like running the wheel on your front yard.

I see no reason to stop there, to assume that yes you are 100% correct, your judgement is perfect, God is exactly how you think he is, Christianity is totally real, now what is for tea.

Christianity passed one test, so why not pass it again. If it is the true religion surely it should pass that test. And the next one. And the next one.

If it doesn't then you need to look at why it didn't, and how that effects your judgement that it is the true religion.

Ok, if faith is the wheel then I completely agree with the first part of your statement. Faith is tested and gets stronger, sometimes weaker, which is why it is important to rely on God.

But I think you're implying that christianity has to pass tests all the time.

You probably have a list, and good luck with that, but

someone who has already become a christian has accepted only the one thing that is necessary, to believe that JC died for our sins, and through belief in him and his righteousness we are saved.

There are no ifs in the above.

As practising christians we can't try and re-try christianity. it would be like crucifying christ again and again - see what I mean?

We're still talking about 2 different things.

thank you for the great analogy with the wheel.

MrPudding

TravelJunkie wrote: »

I don't know about that, I think it is a destructive force (for a christian) doubt and faith are opposites... It is not very constructive, this doubt shouldn't of come in...

But how can you decide to simply not doubt something? How can you control, to that extent, the possibility that an unconscious thought might pop into your mind?

I don't think you can simply decide not to doubt. You can make a decision on how to deal with the doubt, but I don't think you can simply say you never have any, or that you should not.

MrP

The Mad Hatter

TravelJunkie wrote:

Gods plan for your life

Do they? Well I'm glad someone does...:P

BrianCalgary

First you say this:

Wicknight wrote: »

Because you guys seem incapable of simply saying "that is a good point", if an atheist makes it

Then this:

Wicknight wrote: »

No, lust a strong physical desire for something, often sexual. Lust for life, lust for my girlfriend, lust for my wife, lust for the hottie in Spar, lust for that last chocolate brownie.

Which is always your first reaction, why are you such a hypocrite?

I took time off from the boards because of thsi thread and the direction it took from atheists.

Ban me now I really don't mind, but wicknight, you are the most two faced hypocritiacal nob I have ever known.

And for this reason, and by the antics of other atheists, I'm outta here.

Fanny Cradock

BrianCalgary wrote: »

First you say this:


Then this:



Which is always your first reaction, why are you such a hypocrite?

I took time off from the boards because of thsi thread and the direction it took from atheists.

Ban me now I really don't mind, but wicknight, you are the most two faced hypocritiacal nob I have ever known.

And for this reason, and by the antics of other atheists, I'm outta here.

Holiday time!

JimiTime

BrianCalgary wrote: »

I took time off from the boards because of thsi thread and the direction it took from atheists.

Ban me now I really don't mind, but wicknight, you are the most two faced hypocritiacal nob I have ever known.

And for this reason, and by the antics of other atheists, I'm outta here.

I have to say, I do think that there are quite a few that take advantage of the good nature and reluctance to ban of the mods.
There is a distinct lack of respect. Thats you and Sorella now that have left this 'Christian' forum because of this perception. Maybe we need to touch base with the Mods, and see if we can get this place a bit more Christian friendly?

robindch

JimiTime wrote: »

There is a distinct lack of respect.

From the other side of the fence, I'd suggest that it looks like there are people out there who take offense where none is intended, and who seem to have some difficulty in tolerating the suggestion that their views may not be as accurate as they sincerely believe them to be.

JimiTime

robindch wrote: »

From the other side of the fence, I'd suggest that it looks like there are people out there who take offense where none is intended,

I would not say its offence thats the issue in alot of cases.

and who seem to have some difficulty in tolerating the suggestion that their views may not be as accurate as they sincerely believe them to be.

Again, its not about challenging beliefs, but rather its about the manner and timing of 'challenges'.

Anyway, I wont drag the thread further OT.

Fanny Cradock

Mod Note

OK guys, lets leave this particular issue here.

People should be aware that this forum is used not only to discuss matters about Christianity but also to make direct challenges to the Christian faith. In this regard, I would hazard a guess that there are but a few other fora on Boards that have quite the same nature. Yes, sometimes these challenges go beyond reasonable debate and into something less enlightening and far more aggressive, and at this point PDN and myself step in.

However, if people have problems with what they see as the corrosive attitude of certain posters then please send a PM to PDN and myself detailing your perceived grievances. I am firmly of the opinion that such matters should be handled in private. It leads to fairer and unhindered perspectives.

Zombrex

BrianCalgary wrote: »

First you say this:


Then this:



Which is always your first reaction, why are you such a hypocrite?

I took time off from the boards because of thsi thread and the direction it took from atheists.

Ban me now I really don't mind, but wicknight, you are the most two faced hypocritiacal nob I have ever known.

And for this reason, and by the antics of other atheists, I'm outta here.

I'm some what puzzled why this post of all posts would be the one that makes you throw your toys out of the pram, but perhaps some clarification is in order. I would imagine most people would agree with this post if they thought about it for a minute rather that simply dismissing it because I said it.

The suggest made as that "lust" is the objectifying or demeaning of someone for sexual purposes

That is not what lust means. Lust is simply strong desire, most often used in the context of sexual attraction, but not always

Yes people can objectify and demean people when they lust after them. I'm not saying that doesn't happen. And obsession for something is never really a good an idea. Viewing someone as simply a means to gratification with out any regard to their feelings is not a good thing either. I'm not saying this doesn't happen.

But one cannot really say lust is that.

My understanding is that the Bible says that lust is bad not for the reasons people are suggesting here, but because earthly desire in general is never satisfied and the only true satisfaction can come from desire for God.

But lust can still be as good as something can be within that framework, as good as an Earthy desire can be. Lust after your sexual partner, such as your wife, is not bad nor does it mean you are objectifying them.

Zombrex

TravelJunkie wrote: »

Ok, if faith is the wheel then I completely agree with the first part of your statement. Faith is tested and gets stronger, sometimes weaker, which is why it is important to rely on God.

But I think you're implying that christianity has to pass tests all the time.

I'm not saying a Christian has to do anything, simply that it is surely a good thing if they do test this all the time.

Thing of it this way, if Christianity is true and can be demonstrated to be true, why would you not test it all the time. Every time you test it you are even more confident it is true. That is similar to how science works. If you test something once you may declare a result but it is not a particular well supported results. There are other explanations to explain why the result just happened once aside from it being because your model is accurate. If you test it 100 times then you can be pretty confident that yes you were in fact correct.

Not doing this would be some what an acknowledgement that yes it might actually start failing these tests so we better stop now, we don't want to find out we are actually wrong in our initial judgement.

TravelJunkie wrote: »

someone who has already become a christian has accepted only the one thing that is necessary, to believe that JC died for our sins, and through belief in him and his righteousness we are saved.

Yes but I doubt they just accepted that with no reason?

Surely the more reasons you have to accept that the strong the position?

Malicahooza

Wicknight wrote: »

My understanding is that the Bible says that lust is bad not for the reasons people are suggesting here, but because earthly desire in general is never satisfied and the only true satisfaction can come from desire for God.

But lust can still be as good as something can be within that framework, as good as an Earthy desire can be. Lust after your sexual partner, such as your wife, is not bad nor does it mean you are objectifying them.

It is the feeling of the word lust rather that the meaning. Lust in your definition means to desire with great ambition but it is not just that the desire cannot be fulfilled by anyone but god that turns Christians away from it. Lust is desire for ones self, and there in lies the problem, lust is selfish and that is why Christians look upon it as a bad thing, not just because of how you treat the recipient.

Just clarifying.

Malicahooza

Wicknight wrote: »

Yes but I doubt they just accepted that[christ] with no reason?

Surely the more reasons you have to accept that[christ] the strong the position?

I agree with you, they didn't just accept christ for no reason, there is a very good reason. Unfortunately it does not lie in the scientific method and there is no formula for it, in fact there is no physical proof that God is even out there, but wicknight to be a christian one cannot look at science to have proof, one must instead have faith because God doesn't (at least not often) become human and talk to ones self we have to rely on what God has done to our lives and our souls. I am sorry I can't proove that God is here with me, I really wish that I could, but I can't. I have great respect for you wicknight and I want to tell you that no matter how much testing you do of God you will not ind him unless you look spiritualy. sorry.

Zombrex

Malicahooza wrote: »

It is the feeling of the word lust rather that the meaning. Lust in your definition means to desire with great ambition but it is not just that the desire cannot be fulfilled by anyone but god that turns Christians away from it. Lust is desire for ones self, and there in lies the problem, lust is selfish and that is why Christians look upon it as a bad thing, not just because of how you treat the recipient.

Not really following?

If you mean selfish simply as desiring something for oneself, self interest, irrespective of how that self interest effects others, aren't most things we do selfish? I mean isn't eating lunch selfish?

The negative connotations of the term "selfish" come when you put yourself first at the expense of others, when you eat a big lunch while your girlfriend has a tic-tac because you didn't want to give her some of your own lunch.

Surely it is possible to lust after someone while still considering their feelings and giving as much as you get.

Not to blow my own horn or anything, but it has been commented by girlfriends of mine that I am a "generous" lover. Who knows if that means I any good in bed or not :pac: but what I know is that I enjoy pleasing my partner in bed, I enjoy sex more if I know the other person is really enjoying it too. And they seem to enjoy the attention that comes from that.

All of that is still pretty much lust. But just because it is lust that doesn't imply that it will be selfish or that the person is unconcerned with how the desire effects the other person.

Now there is certain a Christian argument to be made for the position that lust outside of marriage is selfish because it puts your desires ahead of God's plan for you, his plan for how sex should be conducted.

While being an atheist I obviously don't believe that, but I can see the logic behind it from a Christian perspective. Which is why I am careful to talk about lust between a married couple when discussing Christian belief.

But I'm not following the argument that lust inside a marriage must be negatively selfish.

PDN

The word 'lust', in English, is a loaded term that carries more connotations than just a strong desire.

dictionary.com wrote:

–noun
1. intense sexual desire or appetite.
2. uncontrolled or illicit sexual desire or appetite; lecherousness.
3. a passionate or overmastering desire or craving (usually fol. by for): a lust for power.
4. ardent enthusiasm; zest; relish: an enviable lust for life.
5. Obsolete.
a. pleasure or delight.
b. desire; inclination; wish.
–verb (used without object)
6. to have intense sexual desire.
7. to have a yearning or desire; have a strong or excessive craving (often fol. by for or after).

Wicknight, I think you know very well that you are using a loaded term.

Zombrex

PDN wrote: »

Wicknight, I think you know very well that you are using a loaded term.

I'm not following?

Look at the range of definitions you quoted. You have bolded 3 out of 7 (not even all of the 3) and you are telling me that "lust" has one specific definition?

My point was that the term "lust" does not simply mean a selfish desire to objectify someone for self gratification at the expense of the other person.

A person can do that, I'm not debating that. A person can lust after someone that they disregard their feelings to get satisfaction for that lust. Say a guy (not to be sexist or anything, I'm sure girls to this too) meets a hot girl in a night club and really wants to have sex with her. He lusts after her and so to get sex he lies to her and makes her believe that he is interested in a relationship when he really isn't. He shags her and sneaks out the next morning never to call her again, leaving her feeling rotten. That was certainly lust and it was certainly selfish and mean.

But the universal use of the term lust as meaning that is inaccurate, because it implies that when I say I lust after my partner I'm doing something as wrong or bad as what that guy just did.

Say I'm out for dinner with my partner and she is looking really hot tonight. All through dinner I can't stop thinking about how hot she looks, it is really turning me on. Hot little skirt, new hair cut etc. I love her and all, but it is not romantic love that is making me want to rip her clothes of right there in the restaurant. It is lust, sexual lust, pure and simply. I'm lusting after her, lusting after her big time. So after dinner we head back to her place and spend a night making passionate, lusty, love to each other, where I spend the majority of my time making sure she is kept in heights of sexual bliss while also getting my own socks rocked.

In both situations lust is involved, but is anyone arguing that what happened in the second instance is bad or wrong or immoral or to be avoided (leaving aside the issue of sex before marriage, if it helps imagine the situation except we are married)

The fact that there are 7 quite different and wide ranging definition of "lust" that you just quoted would seem to support my case.

So again, I'm not really following what point you think you are making, or what point you think I'm making.

PDN

Wicknight wrote: »

I'm not following?

Look at the range of definitions you quoted. You have bolded 3 out of 7 (not even all of the 3) and you are telling me that "lust" has one specific definition?

My point was that the term "lust" does not simply mean a selfish desire to objectify someone for self gratification at the expense of the other person.

A person can do that, I'm not debating that. A person can lust after someone that they disregard their feelings to get satisfaction for that lust. Say a guy (not to be sexist or anything, I'm sure girls to this too) meets a hot girl in a night club and really wants to have sex with her. He lusts after her and so to get sex he lies to her and makes her believe that he is interested in a relationship when he really isn't. He shags her and sneaks out the next morning never to call her again, leaving her feeling rotten. That was certainly lust and it was certainly selfish and mean.

But the universal use of the term lust as meaning that is inaccurate, because it implies that when I say I lust after my partner I'm doing something as wrong or bad as what that guy just did.

Say I'm out for dinner with my partner and she is looking really hot tonight. All through dinner I can't stop thinking about how hot she looks, it is really turning me on. Hot little skirt, new hair cut etc. I love her and all, but it is not romantic love that is making me want to rip her clothes of right there in the restaurant. It is lust, sexual lust, pure and simply. I'm lusting after her, lusting after her big time. So after dinner we head back to her place and spend a night making passionate, lusty, love to each other, where I spend the majority of my time making sure she is kept in heights of sexual bliss while also getting my own socks rocked.

In both situations lust is involved, but is anyone arguing that what happened in the second instance is bad or wrong or immoral or to be avoided (leaving aside the issue of sex before marriage, if it helps imagine the situation except we are married)

The fact that there are 7 quite different and wide ranging definition of "lust" that you just quoted would seem to support my case.

So again, I'm not really following what point you think you are making, or what point you think I'm making.

You're not following?

Maybe you can follow this. You use a word that, for most Christians, carries negative connotations. Then you try to argue semantics instead of simply substituting another word.

I am posting this in my capacity as a moderator, not as a poster (I don't think I've participated in any of the discussion in this thread). If you want to discuss any of the Christian issues raised in this thread then do so. If you just want to tick people off by arguing about the word 'lust' then take it to another forum.

There, I hope that is stated plainly enough for you to follow.

Zombrex

PDN wrote: »

Maybe you can follow this. You use a word that, for most Christians, carries negative connotations. Then you try to argue semantics instead of simply substituting another word.

What?

Why would I substitute another word when the word I'm using is perfectly fine?

I know for some Christians that word carries negative connotations, I'm explaining that the negative connotations do not go hand in hand with the meaning of the word. And I've explained why.

Are you seriously arguing that you get to decide exclusively what words mean?

PDN wrote: »

If you want to discuss any of the Christian issues raised in this thread then do so.

I was thank you very much, at least before you came along. You are the one quoting dictionary passages to me :rolleyes:

PDN

Wicknight wrote: »

What?

Why would I substitute another word when the word I'm using is perfectly fine?

I know for some Christians that word carries negative connotations, I'm explaining that the negative connotations do not go hand in hand with the meaning of the word. And I've explained why.

Are you seriously arguing that you get to decide exclusively what words mean?

No, I was not arguing anything. I was giving directions as a moderator as to how you can actually discuss stuff with people without winding them up unnecessarily.

However, since you prefer to just argue about that moderating decision you might as well take a week's holiday.

I might as well lock this thread while I'm at it since any point the OP was trying to make was long ago lost in the rising tide of nonsense from non-Christian posters trying to pick arguments.