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Shopping Trips to Enniskillen

  • 25-02-2009 9:28pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,392 ✭✭✭


    Spotted in the Weekender.

    www.recessionbustours.ie

    The coach leaves here at 8am to be in Asda, Enniskillen for 9.30am, they take your trolley/s and pack them up (bliss) and deliver them to your door in Sligo (double bliss) shortly after the bus gets back to town at 2pmish.

    e20 all in.

    The service starts Saturday the 7th.

    I shall be partaking, have a mid year school-uniform crisis, so worth it for the savings on that alone.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭Xiney


    Haha, I thought you were going to be offering these once you passed your driving exam :D

    Awesome deal, imo. I wish I could do my shopping up north :(


    (As it is I'm getting Tesco delivered tomorrow half price so I guess it's not the end of the world)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,392 ✭✭✭TequilaMockingBird


    Xiney wrote: »
    Haha, I thought you were going to be offering these once you passed your driving exam :D

    :D hmm...

    If anyone ever hears me talking about a new business idea, please knock some sense into me, fast.
    Xiney wrote: »
    Awesome deal, imo. I wish I could do my shopping up north :(


    (As it is I'm getting Tesco delivered tomorrow half price so I guess it's not the end of the world)

    Why don't Tesco deliver here? Galway is so posh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭fozzle


    Xiney wrote: »
    Haha, I thought you were going to be offering these once you passed your driving exam :D
    That was what I thought too! XD

    But wow, that's some deal. I drove to Omagh for my Christmas shopping (no queues there and it's only an extra 20 miles) and it's really shocking how different the prices are.



    *edit* and before anyone gives out about not supporting local I was dropping a friend home at the same time :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,392 ✭✭✭TequilaMockingBird


    fozzle wrote: »
    That was what I thought too! XD

    But wow, that's some deal. I drove to Omagh for my Christmas shopping (no queues there and it's only an extra 20 miles) and it's really shocking how different the prices are.



    *edit* and before anyone gives out about not supporting local I was dropping a friend home at the same time :P

    I know Fozzle, I was waiting for the unpatriotic accusations (its early yet) but I can handle them. :cool:


    /The roads are still safe from me. I had a lesson today and the person teaching me kept her hand on the handbrake the entire time...! Do you think she might be a little concerned?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭fozzle


    /The roads are still safe from me. I had a lesson today and the person teaching me kept her hand on the handbrake the entire time...! Do you think she might be a little concerned?

    Good god, really? If someone did that to me it would make me MORE nervous, and then I'd make more mistakes. This may be a horrible over-reaction but I think it might be worth trying another, calmer instructor. I'll pm you my old instructor's number.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,392 ✭✭✭TequilaMockingBird


    Its a friend Fozzle, she knows me so her actions are probably warranted! :-D Thanks though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭fozzle


    Its a friend Fozzle, she knows me so her actions are probably warranted! :-D Thanks though!
    :D fair enough!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭bobcar61


    The bus doesn't stay in Enniskillen does it?

    If its back for 2pm it must leave at about 12:30 which gives you three hours up there.
    It's probably cheaper to take your car really,but carbon emissions and all that craic.
    With your car you can leave Sligo when you want and stay as long as you want in Enniskillen,grab lunch and take a proper look around and then deliver your own shopping to your own door aswell.

    Don't get me wrong,I think its a great idea and all but I cant seeing it taking off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭Xiney


    well, it most likely IS cheaper to go by car (and probably more convenient too)
    but Sue doesn't drive (yet!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,201 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    I've been tempted to drive to Enniskillen some weekend.. but that god-awful road is the only real thing stopping me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭bobcar61


    Oh I know that.Actually it give elderly people the opportunity to go up there as well who may not have the confidence to drive the road.

    If only it stayed in Enniskillen about another 2 hours it would be more desirable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭bobcar61


    basquille wrote: »
    I've been tempted to drive to Enniskillen some weekend.. but that god-awful road is the only real thing stopping me.

    Once you drive it once you'll get over it and it wont bother you from then on.

    Or you could go to Ballyshannon and into Enniskillen that way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭magnumlady


    After a trip there last week, it'll be a while before I'm back again. It was mad. Half the aisles in Asda you just couldn't get down.
    Half the things I wanted were out of stock. I'm not going again in a hurry...even the muvver was unimpressed and she usually loves it there.
    The bus service is a good idea as Mark says the elderly would probably make use of it, not great for the people that would normally fill the car full of things...imagine trying to lugg all that to the bus and 3 hours isn't long....I was queing in Asda for almost an hour!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,589 ✭✭✭Hail 2 Da Chimp


    €20 to go up to Enniskillen and shop where you'll save about €20 in total :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭magnumlady


    €20 to go up to Enniskillen and shop where you'll save about €20 in total :/

    and come back with a headache and the need for valium:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭darealtulip


    €20 to go up to Enniskillen and shop where you'll save about €20 in total :/

    true but the choice is far better then in sligo!! We even go there when it's dearer just for the choice and parking!!

    Always go during the week and it saves you the headache and valium.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 hammer1


    bobcar61 wrote: »
    Oh I know that.Actually it give elderly people the opportunity to go up there as well who may not have the confidence to drive the road.

    If only it stayed in Enniskillen about another 2 hours it would be more desirable.

    I used them in their Newry run and couldn't say a bad word about them, very professional. I booked another trip for 2 weeks time-saw the Sligo route ad again, but it says theyre coming back home at 3.
    ps.asda i think is even cheaper that sainsburys in newry where i went.

    Come on the magpies!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    With the cost of travel, I don't find the north that much cheaper... I don't eat processed food, so bulk buying fresh food is not really an option (as it'd go off by the time I get round to eating it all)... there's a cheapo place on the Mail Coach Road for household products (bog roll, washing up liquid etc).

    If you've young kids, I hear it's worthwhile buying nappies up north & while the beer is a lot cheaper, if I bulk buy that, I'll just end up drinking more & not really saving very much at all!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭darealtulip


    With the cost of travel, I don't find the north that much cheaper... I don't eat processed food, so bulk buying fresh food is not really an option (as it'd go off by the time I get round to eating it all)... there's a cheapo place on the Mail Coach Road for household products (bog roll, washing up liquid etc).

    If you've young kids, I hear it's worthwhile buying nappies up north & while the beer is a lot cheaper, if I bulk buy that, I'll just end up drinking more & not really saving very much at all!

    We dont eat processed food either and make every thing from scratch that's why we go to enniskillen. we find that a lot of times we cant get the ingredients in sligo.

    And for the time you travel I dont think it's really worth it, you really dont save that much unless you are going there for alcohol which we dont.

    But for mattresses and elctric good etc it is well worth it! The same mattress in sligo was 300 euro dearer!! television was 400 euro cheaper. The mattress was home delivered for free which cost another 25 euro on top in sligo!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,392 ✭✭✭TequilaMockingBird


    My girls school trousers are e17.99 in Sligo or 2.98 sterling in Asda. I want four pairs, plus shirts, jumpers, tracksuits all a fraction of the cost here.

    Have a mooch around the rest of the kids clothes, electrical, gadgets etc.

    Stock up on cleaning stuff, toiletries, coffees etc.

    Well worth it for me. I like that its not the full day, I'm not that into shopping that I would want to spend a day it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭magnumlady


    I used to like Tesco for the school uniforms...quite well priced and good quality too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 hammer1


    We dont eat processed food either and make every thing from scratch that's why we go to enniskillen. we find that a lot of times we cant get the ingredients in sligo.

    And for the time you travel I dont think it's really worth it, you really dont save that much unless you are going there for alcohol which we dont.

    But for mattresses and elctric good etc it is well worth it! The same mattress in sligo was 300 euro dearer!! television was 400 euro cheaper. The mattress was home delivered for free which cost another 25 euro on top in sligo!!

    Yeah electrical stuff seems to be much cheaper up north but i haven't bought that much of stuff. Asda does a bit of stuff but i'd say up in the town there might be more bargains to be had, or the erneside shopping centre. It'd be perfect for shopping only for all the traffic, it's drive ye mad, no pun intended!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭darealtulip


    hammer1 wrote: »
    Yeah electrical stuff seems to be much cheaper up north but i haven't bought that much of stuff. Asda does a bit of stuff but i'd say up in the town there might be more bargains to be had, or the erneside shopping centre. It'd be perfect for shopping only for all the traffic, it's drive ye mad, no pun intended!

    there is a curry's at the round about behind dunnes (there is a lidl and carpet right too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 hammer1


    there is a curry's at the round about behind dunnes (there is a lidl and carpet right too

    That's good to know, ye never see half the places.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 778 ✭✭✭Essexboy


    magnumlady wrote: »
    After a trip there last week, it'll be a while before I'm back again. It was mad. Half the aisles in Asda you just couldn't get down.
    Half the things I wanted were out of stock. I'm not going again in a hurry...even the muvver was unimpressed and she usually loves it there.
    The bus service is a good idea as Mark says the elderly would probably make use of it, not great for the people that would normally fill the car full of things...imagine trying to lugg all that to the bus and 3 hours isn't long....I was queing in Asda for almost an hour!

    Give Tesco a try if you want to avoid queues. It is dearer than Asda for many items, unfortunately, but it is much easier to walk around. And the drink is still cheaper than Sligo! (better choice of wines too).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭magnumlady


    Essexboy wrote: »
    Give Tesco a try if you want to avoid queues. It is dearer than Asda for many items, unfortunately, but it is much easier to walk around. And the drink is still cheaper than Sligo! (better choice of wines too).

    We were looking at Tesco and it looked empty....but we were all shopped out by that time.
    I'm hoping not to go up for a while now.
    The only good thing about the trip was that I got snowballs:D (the little alcoholic drinks....haven't had those since I was a kid)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭tuppence


    Spotted in the Weekender.

    www.recessionbustours.ie

    The coach leaves here at 8am to be in Asda, Enniskillen for 9.30am, they take your trolley/s and pack them up (bliss) and deliver them to your door in Sligo (double bliss) shortly after the bus gets back to town at 2pmish.

    e20 all in.

    The service starts Saturday the 7th.

    I shall be partaking, have a mid year school-uniform crisis, so worth it for the savings on that alone.

    Do ye think the upsurge of violence in Northern Ireland will effect the shopping trip numbers? I remember from before along with the human tragedy aspect for people living there which was heartbreaking, Enniskiilin was'nt a nice place to visit. (The heightened security patrols, bombscares road blocks take their toil) I know I will think twice already to bring my wee one up North. :( I would have been going to float around the town really, I like the little cake shops, craft and hardware. And theres a great new playground just at Blacklion too on the border.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭magnumlady


    tuppence wrote: »
    Do ye think the upsurge of violence in Northern Ireland will effect the shopping trip numbers? I remember from before along with the human tragedy aspect for people living there which was heartbreaking, Enniskiilin was'nt a nice place to visit. (The heightened security patrols, bombscares road blocks take their toil) I know I will think twice already to bring my wee one up North. :( I would have been going to float around the town really, I like the little cake shops, craft and hardware. And theres a great new playground just at Blacklion too on the border.

    I think it will effect numbers going up there. We always went up during the 'troubles', but I know a lot of people that didn't. It used to be scary looking around the markets with low flying helicopters and soldiers going around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭darealtulip


    magnumlady wrote: »
    I think it will effect numbers going up there. We always went up during the 'troubles', but I know a lot of people that didn't. It used to be scary looking around the markets with low flying helicopters and soldiers going around.

    If you stop going you give them exactly what they want! And being scared is giving in! We had lots of terroist attacks in Holland (even recent by animal right activists, shooting a politican and moslim extremist stabbing and shooting a film director.) before that we had the rotte armee fraction and onkruit we never became scared going anywhere. Most people I know always booked trips to risk areas like basque country because they where cheap!

    And above all that the sterling is getting lower again!! So yes we will be going!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭tuppence


    magnumlady wrote: »
    I think it will effect numbers going up there. We always went up during the 'troubles', but I know a lot of people that didn't. It used to be scary looking around the markets with low flying helicopters and soldiers going around.

    Yes thats absolutely right, the low flying helicopters, road blocks, searches. I wouldnt blame anyone for decideing not to go or alternatively if they feel like they will head up. Its up to them. Everyday people make risk assesments. Alot have lived through it before and know exactly what it was like.

    Nope I am not going to be intimadated but at the same time i wont try and make a political statement either by going up. So will wait and see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭darealtulip


    It's probaly more risky to drive a car, more people die of that then this kind of thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,589 ✭✭✭Hail 2 Da Chimp


    I was in Enniskillen just before Christmas and I can confirm - there were no road blocks, low flying helicopters or soilders marching around.


    At least not in Asda anyway...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭tuppence


    I was in Enniskillen just before Christmas and I can confirm - there were no road blocks, low flying helicopters or soilders marching around.


    At least not in Asda anyway...

    No not before xmas. We are reminincing about how it was in the bad old days at the height of the 'troubles'. We are all hoping that with recent events, it wont return there again. Must of that heightened security presence has been thankfully scaled down.
    It has been peaceful for so long that some people may forget or havent lived through it before. Bomb scares in shops dont normally lend themselves to happy shopping even in Asda I would have thought.....

    In the height of the war I 'd say alot of people of Northern Irealnd would have wished that it was just their road safety stategy to worry about.:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭darealtulip


    tuppence wrote: »

    In the height of the war I 'd say alot of people of Northern Irealnd would have wished that it was just their road safety stategy to worry about.:(

    and this proves my point, Taking part in traffic is by far the most dangerous thing we do in our life. Strangly we still go in the car without a single thought, even when there are fatal accidents every week. I hear no one say "I dont go and drive anymore" but with a terrorist attack people go suddenly scared.

    I googled how many people died in the troubles and that came down to 3527 of which 1857 civilians. I coeldnet get the exact figures of how many road deads there where in that period but I got figures from 1954 to 1963 and that's 3020. So in that a lot more civilians in a smaller time frame.

    the links:

    http://www.springerlink.com/content/h826181106303887/

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles

    Fact is that more people die in traffic then with anything else so it is a strange thing to get scared about getting killed right now unless ofcourse you're in the british army or a police man.

    So yes maybe they should have thought about their road policy aswell.



    My neighbours all survived their trip the north this few days.

    By no means I'm saying the troubles weren't a serious bad time I just think it's a over reaction not to go to enniskillen because of that.

    We are off for a weekend in Belfast and are not th se least cared except maybe for a accident on the way up there.

    moral: be happy and shop till you drop!!! (up north!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 270 ✭✭bicardi19


    It's probaly more risky to drive a car, more people die of that then this kind of thing.

    Thank god a voice of reason.
    Its only enniskillen we are talking about here not iraq. Why dont we start worrying about bombs when they actually start happening.
    I grew up in Fermanagh during "the troubles" and am still around to tell the tale.
    Living in Ballyconnell in cavan now and go to asda once a week. The shops in Ballyconnell have realised that most people are going to enniskilen for their shopping and have started doing good deals.
    They are not as willing to rip people off anymore. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭magnumlady


    What I meant was it wouldn't stop me from going up there....it didn't before, but it will stop the other people that it stopped before.
    I think that when your time is up it's up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭garth-marenghi


    With regards to the dangers of driving I think we can all agree that there are too many people killed on the roads on a regular basis. It is for this reason that we make risk assessments and take safety precautions to ensure that we arrive in one piece. You would hope that most people would stay within the speed limits, not drink drive, think twice about driving in poor weather etc. A similiar logic can be applied to the issue of travelling to the North
    No one can dispute that the political climate has changed recently. To what extent and how serious it is will only become apparent over a longer period of time. The reality is some people will now make a risk assesment about travelling north due to recent events. I would disagree that it is only security forces that are in danger. What about the pizza delivery guys, people who may be caught up in the crossfire of an assisanation attempt, bystanders who may be injured or killed by a bomb under a policemans car.
    No one is arguing that the North has reverted to the levels of violence of the past or is akin to Baghdad. Its just that until the ramifications of the recent attacks become clear and whether the violent campaigns of the RIRA/CIRA continue people will perhaps think twice about travelling to the North and I wouldnt blame them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 270 ✭✭bicardi19


    oh we not talking about shopping anymore then!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭darealtulip


    With regards to the dangers of driving I think we can all agree that there are too many people killed on the roads on a regular basis. It is for this reason that we make risk assessments and take safety precautions to ensure that we arrive in one piece. You would hope that most people would stay within the speed limits, not drink drive, think twice about driving in poor weather etc. A similiar logic can be applied to the issue of travelling to the North
    No one can dispute that the political climate has changed recently. To what extent and how serious it is will only become apparent over a longer period of time. The reality is some people will now make a risk assesment about travelling north due to recent events. I would disagree that it is only security forces that are in danger. What about the pizza delivery guys, people who may be caught up in the crossfire of an assisanation attempt, bystanders who may be injured or killed by a bomb under a policemans car.
    No one is arguing that the North has reverted to the levels of violence of the past or is akin to Baghdad. Its just that until the ramifications of the recent attacks become clear and whether the violent campaigns of the RIRA/CIRA continue people will perhaps think twice about travelling to the North and I wouldnt blame them.

    I am not shopping at a army base. Besides that if you would do a risk assesment the figures a gave before proof that even in the highest of the troubles more people die in traffic. Point is if you allow yourself to be scared for every incident you cant do anything. You say you can do a risk assement in traffic?? The most road deaths in Ireland are because of people ending up on the wrong side of the road (for what ever reason) nothing you can do about that with risk assesment.

    Most youths die in car accident but that doesnt mean i wont let my son not get his drivers licence. In fact I pay for it and will give him a car!

    If you want to scaremonger it's your right to do so but I will not give in to a small incident and no, not even 2.

    My point was and is that its not very rational to be scared to go to the north and I didn't want to start a what is worse discussion.

    Up to enniskillen tomorrow and will keep going.

    Can we go back on topic now??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭garth-marenghi


    I am not shopping at a army base. Besides that if you would do a risk assesment the figures a gave before proof that even in the highest of the troubles more people die in traffic. Point is if you allow yourself to be scared for every incident you cant do anything. You say you can do a risk assement in traffic?? The most road deaths in Ireland are because of people ending up on the wrong side of the road (for what ever reason) nothing you can do about that with risk assesment.

    Most youths die in car accident but that doesnt mean i wont let my son not get his drivers licence. In fact I pay for it and will give him a car!

    If you want to scaremonger it's your right to do so but I will not give in to a small incident and no, not even 2.

    My point was and is that its not very rational to be scared to go to the north and I didn't want to start a what is worse discussion.

    Up to enniskillen tomorrow and will keep going.

    Can we go back on topic now??


    People who were caught up in the Omagh,Enniskillen,and Shankhill attacks were not shopping at an army base either. In my post I didnt make an argument stating that there have been more fatalities in the North when compared to road traffic accidents. I used the issue of road safety as an analogy i.e There are certain preventative things people can do that reduce risks in any situations. It might be puttting your seatbelt on in a car, wearing protective clothing in a factory etc etc.
    I am not trying to scaremonger as you say. I am trying to understand why a number of people (not just me) would have some concerns (however alarmist they may seem to some people) in light of current events. It is not a matter of "giving in". In my opinion its about waiting to see whether the current situation improves or worsens.
    I would have thought we are on topic as it relates to safety issues concerning travelling to eniskillen for shopping but that is for the mods to decide.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭darealtulip


    and I said that that is not very rational and if you dont scaremonger your falling for it since nothing happend to indicate that shopping in enniskillen is anymore dangerous then last week. So being scared to go IMO is definitly giving in!

    And I dont think it's relevant to shopping in enniskillen at all. The only relevant thing is how rational you are and if you are you just go and shop there without a bother in the world.

    And I dont see the reference to what happend in Omagh,Enniskillen,and Shankhill has to do with any of the recent events. There has been no bomb at all and it's too much credit to the people that did this. It were to incidents not even close to enniskillen! Did you not go into sligo when that guy got shot in the middle of the day in the middle of town? same thing only different motives.

    Be scared as much as you like but dont try to tell me there is a rational reason to it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭tuppence


    Enniskillin is a great place, thats why I visit there. Thankfully it has been a very safe place now too compared to times gone by. We are all hoping I wolud like to think, that the situation in Northern Ireland doesnt escalate. What I referred to was that I wondered whether people already will think twice before going up shopping now that the climate has changed. Some people including myself probably will adopt a wait and see approach.

    People have had to be resilient and live in war torn places, though emigration abroad and down to the Republic during those times was high in the height of the war, the economy was in a bad way hence it got subsidised. Its just getting up on its feet now. (the shoppers from here helping too)

    I grew up in Sligo and used to visit Enniskillin every Good Friday shopping with my family. (three teenage girls and parents) One evening in Belcoo, Fermanagh on the way back we got caught in a sniper attack on a RUC regiment. Werent doing anything just in the wrong place at the wrong time coming out of a pub. We were very lucky but it was a near miss, (thankfully the RUC was not badly injured in that incident) I am sure there may be a few people with anedotal stories like this. They too may being cautious about travelling at this time until the dust settles, as well as having empathy for our neighbours and relatives in Northern Ireland.

    It didnt effect me going back (after a bit of a lull). I suppose what I am triyng to say that in times of war there can be civilian casualties. Also saying that if you do something enough, you can be unfortunate. Just hoping again that it doesnt slip back to the way it was. And nobody knows where there are pockets of the RIRA and how mobilised they are in the different counties. Its a bit of a lottery at the moment.

    Last week I went to Enniskillin, but because of the events that have happened subsequently I will think twice and adopt a wait and see approach. This is not scare mongering, I am not tring to bring people along in my opinion. Its making a level headed informed decesion. Its anyones choice surely to do this, without prejudice....i would have thought. People are free to have a differing opinion and to travel, or not if they wish to.



    Hey Bicardi 19 thats good news about the shops in Ballyconnell. Its a bit too far of a drive for me at the moment though! ;) But keep us posted. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭darealtulip


    it is entirely up to anyone to go or not, the point is (again) it is not rational. I dont see a parallel with the past since there is only a little to no support for these incidents.

    Not going is giving them what they want, and indeed it totaly up to yourself what you do. I'm not saying you should just saying it's not rational.

    I was twice in a night club in Rotterdam when people started to shoot, still went out again. Not saying it's the same as the troubles but I don't want to live in fear for what might happen.

    Your question if people are resilient to go: No I will keep going.

    Did everybody see the sterling?? It's getting better and better for us again!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭garth-marenghi


    There has been no bomb at all and it's too much credit to the people that did this. It were to incidents not even close to enniskillen! Did you not go into sligo when that guy got shot in the middle of the day in the middle of town? same thing only different motives.

    Be scared as much as you like but dont try to tell me there is a rational reason to it.
    [/QUOTE] Dareatulip




    It was the RIRA who carried out the Omagh bomb. They may be less of a threat than the PIRA was but are still an organisation with the will and potential to derail the peace process.
    What relevance has the distance to Enniskillen have. I would say most people on here ( i would hope!) are not privy to the inner workings and decision making of the RIRA army council and where they wish to target. I am not trying to scaremonger or say there will be another attack. Like in my previous post I am just saying that some people will put off travelling to the North until the ramifications of the attacks are clearer. I would say that is not scaremongering, giving in, or been scared its adopting a rational policy of "wait and see".
    Yes i did go into Sligo town. That was an isolated incident related to some kind of dispute. If the people who carried out that attack were to carry out similiar attacks on a regular basis then perhaps I wouldnt.

    I dont think we are ever going to agree on this. My primary point is that i am trying to understand and put across some of the reasons why people may think twice about travelling to Enniskillen to shop. You obviously have no issues with travelling and I totally respect that point of view. It is however unfair to label people as scared and irrational because they have exercised an opinion that is contrary to ones own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭darealtulip


    You're missing the point. The point is that it is a irrational process of thinking. To go back to the road dangers example it is a fact that you are in more danger there than in enniskillen. To put it in perspective I even provided the data. This makes the thought process of not going to enniskillen because of an incident irrational. The same fear or what ever you may call it as for flying, this can in actual fact can happen but it's not likely, so it's exactly the same. Even in the hight of the troubles when most people got killed by bomb etc. road accidents killed more people. Even while knowing this people still choose to drive and even buy cars that are less safe then others.

    So to put things in perspective your more likely to get killed on the way to enniskillen in a road accident then by a terrorist attack in enniskillen. This is risk assesment.

    And is spreading fear not the main objective of terrorism? So how is it not giving in when you fear for your safety.

    I probably used the word scared wrongly and should have said fear (but I dont know the real difference between the two)

    And no we dont agree and thats fine but again dont try to tell me it is a rational thought process because it's not. Your feeling might be real but the fear or the decission not to go and see what's happening is in fact not rational at all.

    Again I'm not trying to confince you or anyone to do anything they dont want to do. All I'm saying it's not rational, even with all the history involved.

    And now there are people getting united by this instead of divided, so I have hope.

    I thought you and tuppence were expressing more a feeling than a opinion. Thinking you're not save somewhere is a feeling not an opinion.

    And by the way there were more shootings etc in sligo seamingly by the same family. So how come you can put that one in perspective but when there are political motives not?

    And hey the sterling is even lower!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,539 ✭✭✭jimmmy


    And hey the sterling is even lower!!!
    Only downside is that shops are closing in Sligo / unemployment is going up / the UK government is getting the vat and income tax etc instead of our government.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭darealtulip


    jimmmy wrote: »
    Only downside is that shops are closing in Sligo / unemployment is going up / the UK government is getting the vat and income tax etc instead of our government.

    I agree but you see shop around the border already lowering their prices. Which is a result of people buying up north. Saying that we had some good bargains lately in sligo town. And the sterlng won't stay down for ever.

    But you are absolutly right but I hope it's for the best in the long run. A lot of things were over priced like electronics, stoves, shower units and car parts. This are just thing I happen to know because I was looking for them.

    I think we all want to shop localy really. It's maddness that it makes economic sence to travel for two hours to do your shopping!

    Hey we agree again!!;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 hammer1


    If the shopkeepers think about putting all their prices down because of us heading over to enniskillen then our cross border shopping will not only benefit us now, but in the future for the country as well, in a roundabout way, bringing down the mad prices here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭darealtulip


    hammer1 wrote: »
    If the shopkeepers think about putting all their prices down because of us heading over to enniskillen then our cross border shopping will not only benefit us now, but in the future for the country as well, in a roundabout way, bringing down the mad prices here.

    +1 there are some really big savings to make and the savings are bigger then the VAT rate or cost from staff. A showerdoor I ordered was 50% cheaper and my telly was a whopping €400 cheaper.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭tuppence


    So to put things in perspective your more likely to get killed on the way to enniskillen in a road accident then by a terrorist attack in enniskillen. This is risk assesment.

    You admit theirs risks associated to driving to Enniskillin, You admit there were risks associated with being in Enniskillin in the height of the war. By exposing oneself to both, isnt that just piling on the risk. What does it matter, which one statistically is going to get you faster. i suppose if you got to go you gotta go! (You could always try driving to Enniskiillen in the height of an electrical storm on Friday 13th!)

    Joking aside at least people have a choice whether or not they wish to go to Enniskillin and long may that last. (without prejudice ;)) Driving in rural Ireland is not a lifestyle choice as you imply, it is a necessity in the most part. There is no public transport that can get people from A to B. So people are dependant on taking the calculated risk of driving. (By the way for up to date stats on road safety in case you are interested for again: http://www.rsa.ie/NEWS/News/2008_Safest_Year_on_Record.html)

    However, we have local shops albeit that they are somewaht more expensive. If people make a choice to go elsewhere and that will have a knock on effect on the local economy.
    Saying that it appears that Asda has it own problems as there has been demonstrations from local tradespeople in Enniskillin about them. That is of course along with by all accounts their already poor track record of staff relations, and manipulation of suppliers from developing countries.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2005/oct/17/politics.supermarkets
    I am conscious that this will open up an even bigger debate on ethical shopping, and I am aware that we all cant put our money were our mouths are all the time.
    So whats the price of eggs in sterling then!:D


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