Shaktar vs Spurs [match thread]

therecklessone

Talk of a weakened squad having travelled: King, Woodgate, O'Hara, Palacios, Lennon and Cudicini not travelled I've heard, Modric a doubt with a knock picked up in training, Defoe out long term, Keane/Paylyuchenko/Corluka all inelligable. Allegedly, 8 of the 20 man squad are academy players, who have less than 90mins senior action between them.

Jol got a bollocking for daring to leave Lennon and Berbatov out of the Cup game at Samford Bridge...:rolleyes:

Kold

Jaysus, well I guess with the League Cup final and all our efforts going into staying up, the UEFA isn't anywhere near a priority. Maybe it is an idea to try and blood some youths.

therecklessone

Squad posted up on FTL:

Goalkeepers: Heurelho Gomes, Oscar Jansson

Defenders: Gareth Bale, Chris Gunter, Michael Dawson, Calum Butcher, Adam Smith, Pascal Chimbonda

Midfielders: Didier Zokora, David Bentley, Tom Huddlestone, Jermaine Jenas, Gilberto, John Bostock, Dean Parrett, Ryan Mason

Forwards: Darren Bent, Giovani Dos Santos, Fraizer Campbell, Jonathan Obika

Starting XI?

Gomes
Gunter
Dawson
Chimbonda
Bale
Bentley
Zokora
Hudd
Jenas
Bent
Campbell

?

Would love to see Gio get a run on the left of midfield, and I was very impressed with Adam Smth in Rotterdam in pre-season. There's rumours Parrett might get a start as well.

keane=cock

a very weakened side indeed travelling but harry has said his priority is satying up and there is the small issue of a cup final. would rather have seen a strong side play there and if we get beat throw out a weak team in the second leg just before the final if progressiing to the next round is not realistic. especially with having the weekend off last week with the fa cup on.

Balto Yid

Would love to see gio get a run, i think the uefa is great place for the young lads to get some experience, obika looks handy as does danny rose.Hopefully bostock will get 90 mins.

tippspur

I can't see that team getting a win over there,a draw would be a very good result i suppose. as much as i love to see us do well in Europe i think Harry has his priorities right

Hatch99

Very Under-strength squad, although I still think we have a chance of getting tru the tie. If we get a draw or only a minus 1 deficit, I can see us doing them in the home tie. Plenty of experience in the team, so I'll go for a 2-2 draw tonight !!

Mullo76

to be honest I am not expecting much tonight, no more than a one goal loss would be good. Really think that next Thurs he will play the same weakened team so overall not expecting to go through. Hull monday and then CC have to be our priority now. Though in saying that I will still be p*ssed off if we dont go through. I would love to see Bostock and Obika getting a good run, their confidence must be sky high at the moment so you never know..

yiddo

I'd take a draw and no injuries.

hotspur147

whats the point of trying to qualify for europe if we just put out a reserve team.i know the league is the piority but if we get a good hiding tonight it will only undermine the teams already fragile confidence.
shaktar are a good side and will enflict enough damage to give us too much to do in the return leg.2/3-0 to shaktar

John W

hotspur147 wrote: »

whats the point of trying to qualify for europe if we just put out a reserve team.i know the league is the piority but if we get a good hiding tonight it will only undermine the teams already fragile confidence.
shaktar are a good side and will enflict enough damage to give us too much to do in the return leg.2/3-0 to shaktar

I would disagree - if we put out our first team, that would include, Keane, Corluka, Woodgate, BAE, Palacios, King, Lennon, Pav and Modric and got beat I would agree it would shake "the teams" confidence in the next game at Hull, and then the CC - But the point is, none of these players are playing and the ones who are with the exception of maybe Bent, Bentley and Gomes will not be playing in those games, so confidence is not an issue - plus the first teamers that are playing tonight know they have an understrength teams, so no big deal deal if they loose it was not down to them - the management made the decision!

Bottom line is, the team the management all know what the clubs priorities are, and UEFA is not one of them this year.

Sorry but risk of injury/fatigue is a bigger risk than losing the game or any confidence for the next match - for the reasons stated above I don't think it will make much difference - yes a win would be a bonus for the club, so I see this as a "nothing to loose game" and see us going out with a fairly relaxed and positive attitude (something missing from our games for a while)

Watch and relax tonight, this will be one of the few Spurs games I will sit and enjoy for once! maybe a chance to see some young lads, great!

thudd

As far as i know, Gareth Bale hasnt travelled over either. Picked up a virus I've heard.

A score draw is the best result we can hope for imo. If only Juande had registered Taarabt, then all our problems would be solved.

Would like to see Bostock get a game. He's been progressing quite well it seems.

KingdomYid

am looking forward to this one aswell,to seeing some young lads getting a game to see what ability they have.Obviously i would like us to progress but its clear Harry does not have any interest in the UEFA,so any kind of result tonight would be a great outcome.

PEC

BEING AN OPTIMIST I THINK WE WILL GET A RESULT TONIGHT

therecklessone

I don't get the resting players argument lads, Keane/Pavlychenko/Corluka will all be available next Monday night. I can take it if we've a load of walking wounded, but this smacks of rolling over to me. Yeah the next few games are important, but we have resources in certain areas...

At least with the FA Cup tie we had a number of players carrying knocks.

Jol was reprimanded for doing the same IMO.

John W

therecklessone wrote: »

I don't get the resting players argument lads, Keane/Pavlychenko/Corluka will all be available next Monday night. I can take it if we've a load of walking wounded, but this smacks of rolling over to me. Yeah the next few games are important, but we have resources in certain areas...

At least with the FA Cup tie we had a number of players carrying knocks.

Jol was reprimanded for doing the same IMO.

I think he is more worried about injuries - apparently the pitch is awful - plus Modric and Lennon are both carrying knocks, Bale has a virus and the rest are either out long term or ineligible - who else would you play?

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Kold

Pile of sh*t. From the players that should play better than that.

PEC

HAVE TO AGREE .THOUGH NOT A GREAT MATCH AT HALF TIME THOUGHT THEY WOULD SNATCH A GOAL IN THE SECOND HALF:(

hotspur147

terrible performance.i feel sorry for dawson,he's the only one of that bunch who knows how to defend.once the 1st one went in i just knew they would get a 2nd.
gomes and zokora should be left in the ukraine and made walk back to london.

keane=cock

zokora! what were you at for the free that led to the first goal? gomez what were you at for the first goal? injured after it? from ****ing what?

RAUL DUKE

Gomes is an embarresment,whether hes flappin at crosses or lying on the ground pretending hes injured(funny how it always seems to happen when he fcuks up)Get up you dick,your not injured your just ****e!!

As for bentley!!Dont even get me started,what exactly is he good at??He is USELESS!:mad:!Jenas,another typical performance by the invisable man.

I feel sorry for dawson because the lad isnt the most talented player in the spurs team but i can only wish that some of the other players had at least half the heart he has.Disgarceful!!

twilight_singer

Gomes is a bottler lads. I wanted to believe in him but now I just think he's clearly not got what it takes. thank christ we have cudicini now and hopefully we may get most of our money back for gomes in the summer.
Hopefully Harry guts the squad come summertime. :mad:

keane=cock

agree dawson was good today lads. defended solid the whole match. plays with his heart on his sleeve all the time.

young parrett did well too i thought. after that.......... never thought id agree with pat dolan but gomez.. your a pretender. you made a balls of that goal n looked like you got a bang of a train. shame on you. i wouldnt sell you a spurs shirt if i worked in champion sports and you came in for one.

tippspur

Another bad night for Spurs :rolleyes:.Harry said in an interview later that he will put out the young lads in the 2nd leg aswell because its 4 days before the cup final, so it looks like were out of eufa..:(

neilisagam

bringing cudicini in was a good move but play him please....gomes is a flapper. harry shud hav brawt another goalie in on loan 4 the rest of the season 2......maybe foster of united...needs match pratise if he wants to make the england squad.

Balto Yid

thats a crap decision by harry to play the kids again next week, surely our squad is fit enough to play more than 1 game a week, ok i know the cup final is 3 days later but are utd going to field a below strength team for their champions league game and the cup final????? i don't think so

also i think gomes should be fined 4 weeks wages for his bull**** play acting!!! that lad isn't fit wear our shirt, any time he makes a mistake now he acts injured, he is a disgrace!!!!

Hatch99

Complete and utter rubbish.
Everyone of them were crap bar the young lad Parrett who i thought did ok, and Dawson was'nt too bad. The rest should be a ashamed of themselves, not that they'll probably give a fcuk.

The keeper should never play for the club again, he's a ****in joke. Aswell as being crap, he's another cheat, similar to the prick in goal for Milan who went down at Parkhead.

I am hugely dissapointed in Redknapp following last night performance and squad selection. We are meant to be a big club, and here we are doing our best to get knocked out of Europe. And I wont accept the ****e about Monday being out priority, and last night does'nt matter. They are profesional footballers paid silly amounts of money who are pampered like fcuk, and yet they cant play on a Thursday before a game on a Monday night, pull the other one Harry.

therecklessone

Hatch99 wrote: »

I am hugely dissapointed in Redknapp following last night performance and squad selection. We are meant to be a big club, and here we are doing our best to get knocked out of Europe. And I wont accept the ****e about Monday being out priority, and last night does'nt matter. They are profesional footballers paid silly amounts of money who are pampered like fcuk, and yet they cant play on a Thursday before a game on a Monday night, pull the other one Harry.

+1.

Had last weekend off so should have been well rested, Corluka/Pav/Keane all ineligible last night so should be fit and able to play Monday. King hasn't played since when? Last appearance was 45 mins vs Pompey in January. Palacios can't play next Sunday so should feature in the next two games IMHO, Sick of listening to his excuses, it's not as if we had half a team of walking wounded, he chose to leave players at home and it backfired badly.

everdead.ie

team lineup
Gomes
Gunter chimbonda huddlestone gilberto
giovani palacios O'Hara Bale
Obika Campbell
subs
jansson
Bostock
Parrett
Butcher
Smith
Mason
Townsend

keane=cock

think young parret deserved a start after his performance last week. he made the regulars look average

everdead.ie

keane=cock wrote: »

think young parret deserved a start after his performance last week. he made the regulars look average

I know says alot about the team doesn't it but obika's ment to be prolific these days for the reserves so hopefully we can bring a few youngsters thru and clear out some players who are just there to collect a wage.

frag420

im watchin the game on the web but still cant find live audio coverage in english. any ideas?

cheers

keane=cock

thought the lads played fairly well from what i could see on a little dodgey stream. seemed to be better side. 2 good goals. i think fernandinho was the difference in both legs. a good player. gio might have got his name in the hat for an appearance on sunday

neilisagam

keane=cock wrote: »

gio might have got his name in the hat for an appearance on sunday

ya showed that he deserves a chance. like to see him get more starts on the left.

tippspur

Good effort from the players in the circumstances.at least we have a couple of good youngsters on the way, and that was some screamer from Gio,delighted for him..

Hatch99

Good Performance.
Should have had a pen when Campbell was assaulted, but thats football.
Was a bit dissapointed that Redknapp did'nt have a stronger bench as back up. It would have been ideal to have Bent and Bentley at hand to bring on with 20 mins remaining, it could have been the freshening up that we needed to get the 2nd goal.

Anyway, to Wembley it is........

galinka

frag420 wrote: »

im watchin the game on the web but still cant find live audio coverage in english. any ideas?

cheers

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