Edirol UA-25 + Shure SM58 input signal problem...

seachto7

Hi folks,

Just a quick query.
I have no probs recording guitar plugged straight into the edirol UA25, but I'd like to record an acoustic and place a mic in front of it rather than plug it in.

However, when I go to get a level before recording, the signal is VERY faint.
Is it the mic?
In theory, I know a condenser mic would be better, but I have recorded with SM58s on a different set up before with no problems..
I'm not sure what I'm missing...

Even when I turn the input up to the max, the signal is faint.
I tried it through a DI box, and then into the edirol, and still the same result...

DamagedTrax

have you made sure to switch from a line input to a mic input?

seachto7

There's a guitar lead going from the DI to the edirol (shouldn't this in theory act in the same way as if a guitar was plugged in), and a regular mic lead from mic to DI box. I checked the settings at the back of the edirol, but should double check this again. I'll report back...

Survivin' Ivan

Looking at the unit online it seems that there is no Mic/Line switch...but Input 2 is marked Hi z so make sure you are using Input one.
Does your mic cable terminate with a male Xlr or is it a jack? If its a jack the unit might automatically select a line input. I dont know the unit but its worth a try.

seachto7

yep, I have it in input 1 as well....
I did have a mic lead with a guitar type input on one end (sorry I can't remember the exact terminology for the ends of leads), similar to this one:

http://www.thomann.de/ie/cordial_ccm_5_fp.htm

so I was thinking, hmm, maybe a mic lead with that type of end on it won't work. I was advised to get one of these to try and solve it using a regular mic lead:

http://www.thomann.de/ie/the_sssnake_1680_steckadapter.htm

I thought a DI might do the trick as well though...

Survivin' Ivan

Just use a normal Mic cable and I reckon that might solve your problem.

seachto7

I'm thinking the same thing. I'll just have to get an adaptor to plug it into the edirol..

Survivin' Ivan

Why do you need an adaptor? The inputs accept both jack and mic cable by the looks of them.

Neurojazz

Does the mic need phantom powering? or the DI box?

seachto7

Survivin' Ivan wrote: »

Why do you need an adaptor? The inputs accept both jack and mic cable by the looks of them.

I double checked, and no way a mic lead will fit in there no matter how hard I try

I know a mate of mine in England used a Rode condenser mic, aren't they battery powered? My DI box also uses a battery, so I'm at a loss for now....Hopefully I can right it...

Soundman

seachto7 wrote: »

I double checked, and no way a mic lead will fit in there no matter how hard I try

This is the unit you have, yes?



If so then both inputs 1 & 2 accept XLR cables. It could be that the cable you are using is broken (one-legged). Try a different cable and see.

To plug the SM58 into the Edirol you just need one of these:

seachto7

unless I'm doing something REALLY wrong, my mic lead won't fit, and I'm putting it in the right way

Now it was late so maybe I wasn't paying attention and it needs to almost be forced in....

I'll try a different cable...

PaulBrewer

Lads, this could go on forever!

Why not go back to the shop you bought it and the lads there will sort you in 2 mins?

seachto7

true. I have a funny feeling I may have started the most useless thread in the history of boards. I may not be able to "show my face" around here again...:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o X 1,000,000

maybe deleting this thread could save me some face....

PaulBrewer

seachto7 wrote: »

true. I have a funny feeling I may have started the most useless thread in the history of boards. I may not be able to "show my face" around here again...:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o X 1,000,000

maybe deleting this thread could save me some face....

Not at all! It's a perfectly good question, nothing at all to be ashamed of.

It's just a forum isn't really the medium for sorting a problem such as yours - when 2 mins at the shop is!

seachto7

If I'd only spent another 2 minutes with the device, I could have saved everyone's time...:o:o:o:o:(:o:o:o:o

PaulBrewer

seachto7 wrote: »

If I'd only spent another 2 minutes with the device, I could have saved everyone's time...:o:o:o:o:(:o:o:o:o

That's as maybe!