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Church nearest Mountjoy Street

  • 16-02-2009 8:53pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,128 ✭✭✭


    I am looking for where relatives born around 1900 would have been baptised (roman catholic). They lived on Mountjoy Street in the city centre. I had a look at the register of St Mary's Pro Catherdral (my top choice of where they would have gone) and they weren't listed there. Any ideas?


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,315 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭Dancor


    Also St Peters in Phibsboro and Gardnier St church.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,567 ✭✭✭delta_bravo


    Sorry to hijack the thread but theres a church on the Western Way that I have always wondered what the story with it is. Judging by its style I would say it is C.O.I church but any time I pass by it it appears that it is not in use, no activity around it. It is very striking and am just wondering if anyone knows what the story with it is?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,084 ✭✭✭dubtom


    Do you refer to the black church at the junction of western way and mountjoy street,if so,it's a damn fine solicitor's office.Haven't noticed any others on western way,although I must admit I haven't really looked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,038 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    Sorry to hijack the thread but theres a church on the Western Way that I have always wondered what the story with it is. Judging by its style I would say it is C.O.I church but any time I pass by it it appears that it is not in use, no activity around it. It is very striking and am just wondering if anyone knows what the story with it is?
    dubtom wrote: »
    Do you refer to the black church at the junction of western way and mountjoy street,
    That is the very famous St Mary's Chapel of Ease, better know as 'The Black Church'. It was a Protestant church (presumably Church of Ireland). It was designed by John Semple and built around 1830. It is of architectural significance as it has neither walls or ceilings. It was deconsecrated in the 1960's or 1970's.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭the boss of me


    Berkeley Rd church (St Josephs) is the closest to Mountjoy St. In fact Berkeley St becomes Mountjoy St just after the church.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭Dancor


    OP a wise man recently told me that a lot of the churches in the area were not active for public use ''back in the day'' I know he mentioned St peters and berkerly road. He said they were only for priest use as they lived on the grounds of the church. The gent in question lived on Mountjoy street and had to be married in a church in the Greek street area so mayby the same was for baptisms and so on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,038 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    That is the very famous St Mary's Chapel of Ease, better know as 'The Black Church'. It was a Protestant church (presumably Church of Ireland). It was designed by John Semple and built around 1830. It is of architectural significance as it has neither walls or ceilings. It was deconsecrated in the 1960's or 1970's.

    St Mary's Chapel of Ease at the junction of Mountjoy Street and St Mary's Place North.

    CIMG5257.jpg

    sweet-rasmus - there is another (de-consecrated?) church at the junction of Mountjoy Street and Wellington Place North but I don't know anything about it or to what faith it belonged to. Here's a picture of it.

    WellingtonPlaceNorthChurch.jpg


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,315 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    dancor wrote: »
    OP a wise man recently told me that a lot of the churches in the area were not active for public use ''back in the day'' I know he mentioned St peters and berkerly road. He said they were only for priest use as they lived on the grounds of the church. The gent in question lived on Mountjoy street and had to be married in a church in the Greek street area so mayby the same was for baptisms and so on.

    Halston Street might be worth a look then.
    http://www.churchandhalston.irishcapuchins.com/Parish.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,128 ✭✭✭sweet-rasmus


    I've had a look.
    Berkley Road church (St Joseph's) is Church of Ireland.
    St. Saviour's Dominican Priory on Dominick Street/Upper Dorset Street looks likely - I have emailed them.
    St. Peter's Church may have been too far away in Cabra.
    St Francis Xavier's Jesuit church on Gardiner St has only been a parish since 1974, so that is too recent.

    Thanks for your replies :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,128 ✭✭✭sweet-rasmus


    Halston Street also looks likely, thank you. I've sent them an email also. I wonder though, if either church can confirm my relatives were members of the parish I'm gonna have to fork out on donations :D

    Edit: "G.C. Ashlin rebuilt St. Michan’s Roman Catholic church, which was originally built on Anne Street North, in 1891 with a new façade and tower on Halston Street." It may have been built on the North side too late for most of the family's births...


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,315 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    I've had a look.
    Berkley Road church (St Joseph's) is Church of Ireland.

    No, it's Catholic. I think the Carmelites run it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭Dancor


    spurious wrote: »
    No, it's Catholic. I think the Carmelites run it.

    Definitly. I made my communion and conformation there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 677 ✭✭✭RaverRo808


    Id say its either St Josephs on Berekely Road,St Peters in Phibsboro or Dominick Street church,all in the same radius of Mountjoy Street,Dominick St and Berekely Road being the closest,they were all active around the timeframe your looking for,Id say St Peters and St Josephs be the most likely candidates,dont think Dominick St church was around in 1900(stand to be corrected)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,128 ✭✭✭sweet-rasmus


    RaverRo808 wrote: »
    dont think Dominick St church was around in 1900(stand to be corrected)

    yes, i got an email back to say that their register only begins in 1971


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,038 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    Edit: "G.C. Ashlin rebuilt St. Michan’s Roman Catholic church, which was originally built on Anne Street North, in 1891 with a new façade and tower on Halston Street." It may have been built on the North side too late for most of the family's births...
    Here's a pic of Halston Street Church.

    HalstonStreetChurch-1.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,038 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    Berkley Road church (St Joseph's) is Church of Ireland
    Roman Catholic ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,567 ✭✭✭delta_bravo


    dubtom wrote: »
    Do you refer to the black church at the junction of western way and mountjoy street,if so,it's a damn fine solicitor's office.Haven't noticed any others on western way,although I must admit I haven't really looked.

    Thanks for that, are you sure its a solicitors office? It doesnt seem to be converted or have any signage near it. It appears to disused at the moment which is a shame as it is a unique building as Wishbone stated


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,128 ✭✭✭sweet-rasmus


    Aha! It seems when I read the website last night that "Church in Ireland" read as Church of Ireland in my tired eyes. Oops!

    Thanks again :) I am surprised at how many quick replies I got. And thankful!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,128 ✭✭✭sweet-rasmus


    Oh! I found that one of the marriages occurred in The Holy Family Church, which is on Aughrim Street. Fingers crossed the baptisms were held there! Though, it would have been further for them to travel than their local churches.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 677 ✭✭✭RaverRo808


    Oh! I found that one of the marriages occurred in The Holy Family Church, which is on Aughrim Street. Fingers crossed the baptisms were held there! Though, it would have been further for them to travel than their local churches.

    Aughrim Street would make more sense being that it was around 1900,maybe one of your relations was from the Stoneybatter area,which is the Aughrim Street parish,it is futher then Berekely Road or Peters but not by much,it only be a 20 mins walk from Mountjoy Street


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,267 ✭✭✭Exit


    St Mary's Chapel of Ease at the junction of Mountjoy Street and St Mary's Place North.

    CIMG5257.jpg

    Ok, someone's gonna have to explain to me how that church has no walls or ceiling. I can maybe understand the no ceiling part as it looks like a bunch of spires, but no walls?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Rashers


    St Francis Xavier's Jesuit church on Gardiner St has only been a parish since 1974, so that is too recent.

    I played as a kid around there in the '50s and I'm sure I remember weddings taking place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Rashers


    Exit wrote: »
    Ok, someone's gonna have to explain to me how that church has no walls or ceiling. I can maybe understand the no ceiling part as it looks like a bunch of spires, but no walls?

    Divine intervention?


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