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proposal for compliance with part L

  • 16-02-2009 9:55am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38


    Hi all,

    The planning people have asked me to submit proposals for compliance with part L.

    Does anyone know what the planning people are looking for here?

    I'm getting an off the plans BER done at the moment. Is this too much. If anyone has any examples of what the council is looking for I'd love to see them.

    Thanks,
    Cormac


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭sinnerboy


    The BER assessment will be required . DEAP ( the software for BER ) can also generate a report to show Part L compliance . Ask you assessor for it .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭picorette


    Note that the Dwellings Energy assessment Procedure (DEAP) will show compliance with most parts of part L. Your BER Assessor should be able to advise you on the parts that it does not ( Thermal Bridging, Air Tightness, compliance of water tanks, pipes 7 controls).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭gman2k


    OP, which CoCo is asking for this info, and at what stage of the planning process are you at?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 cormacmul


    Its in Roscommon. CoCo just got back to me looking for more info. Has anyone else been asked for this? It's crap because no one else has examples of what the coco needs. Very frustrating.

    Talk later,
    Cormac


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭RKQ


    IMO compliance with TGD L, providing DEAP is not a Planning issue and should definately not be asked for as part of an FI.

    IMO this information is not required for planning permission. Building Control has nothing to do with planning. It causes delays in the process and unnecessary inconvenience and expense to the applicant.


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  • Subscribers Posts: 42,171 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    cormacmul wrote: »
    Its in Roscommon. CoCo just got back to me looking for more info. Has anyone else been asked for this? It's crap because no one else has examples of what the coco needs. Very frustrating.

    Talk later,
    Cormac

    they are asking for this in kilkenny co co.

    see here
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055454078&highlight=kilkenny


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,550 ✭✭✭Slig


    I submitted a load of U-value calculations, and a Deap up to compliance with part L to Roscommon coco but it was for a '06 granted development.

    I doubt they know what they are looking for themselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭sinnerboy


    Slig wrote: »
    I doubt they know what they are looking for themselves.

    like the dog chasing the car . would not know what to do if he caught it :D

    Still , keeps the civil servant busy at his desk , plenty of scope for AI , CFI etc , etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Jimbo


    It's a good sign that your planning will be granted if they have reason to consider energy issues.


  • Subscribers Posts: 42,171 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    jimbo78 wrote: »
    It's a good sign that your planning will be granted if they have reason to consider energy issues.

    lip service jimbo....

    the dwelling MUST comply with building regs....

    and request for calcs at planning stage is a complete waste of energy (see what i did there ;) )


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭RKQ


    Nice one Syd, nice pun. I fully agree.
    Sorry Jimbo78, IMO its just a sign of the times - helps make us look busy!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 cormacmul


    Hi all,

    Having a bit of trouble.

    Talking with the planner. They said that SEI have an XLS sheet that would help me. Does anyone know of any xls on the SEI website?

    Also talking to my BER person. They are just out of college and have completed the BER course. Its there first job and I want to support them. They have said I need a MPRN number and official registered address.

    I'm a bit confused. Maybe I don't need the full BER. But what do I need.

    Thanks for help,
    Cormac


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭sinnerboy


    You only need the MPRN no if you want a BER CERT .

    The planners are just looking for an assessment ( which believe me - they won't make head nor tail of sorry to say )

    You novice friend CAN use his DEAP software to generate a DEAP assessment only


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 Warden Dios


    Offaly Co Co Building Control also are looking for Part L compliance DEAP calcs.

    Anyone designing any form of dwelling should be familiar with using the DEAP software i.e do a BER course for chr*st sake...


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