Will we ever march and use our voice?

inordertobeable

Given the current situation of the country, one has to wonder if we will ever move from the arm chair politics and actually bother doing anything?

Are we just going to talk ourselves to death so to speak? Will anything ever be done?

Will we ever grow the balls to rise up or are we hoping someone else will bother their arses to do it and we can just retire to the armchair and, well, just comment. As is done here?

The government can find 7 billion out of nowhere but cuts back on 7 million for needy kids?

Will we ever voice our opinion of do we just text newstalk and be done with it?

newstalk? pfft

matt cooper FTW!!

javaboy

inordertobeable wrote: »

Will we ever voice our opinion of do we just text newstalk and be done with it?

You do realise you're leaving yourself open to the inevitable "Well what have you done besides moan on Boards?" type comments?

inordertobeable

Deleted User wrote: »

newstalk? pfft

matt cooper FTW!!

I'll do my best to get that 7 million for you and the rest.

inordertobeable

inordertobeable wrote: »

I'll do my best to get that 7 million for you and the rest.

not for me thanks

Private school FTW!

mikemac

Deleted User wrote: »

newstalk? pfft

matt cooper FTW!!

+1
The Last Word rocks!

As for protesting?
Meh, only the French and the Irish Farmers Association know how to do it. That's the two examples I know best anyway

inordertobeable

javaboy wrote: »

You do realise you're leaving yourself open to the inevitable "Well what have you done besides moan on Boards?" type comments?

I have wrote 6 letters to various institutions declaring my disgust at it all.

SV

Deleted User wrote: »

newstalk? pfft

matt cooper FTW!!

Matt Cooper.. next to Gerry Ryan he's the most annoying personality on the radio.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

OP, probably not...

Insect Overlord

inordertobeable wrote: »

I have wrote 6 letters to various institutions declaring my disgust at it all.

Holy sh!t, no way?! Six letters, dude, that's hardcore.

ClioV6

ClioV6 wrote: »

Matt Cooper.. next to Gerry Ryan he's the most annoying personality on the radio.

yeh but it's free to text him!

Yes, but only if the unemployment rate rises.

inordertobeable

An File wrote: »

Holy sh!t, no way?! Six letters, dude, that's hardcore.

I feel it is worth it. What are YOU doing given your posts on this site about the subject?

javaboy

An File wrote: »

Holy sh!t, no way?! Six letters, dude, that's hardcore.

If he had used one more he would have received a 50 point bonus.

me thinkies the OP asked sharpshooter for directions to the politics forum!

deadhead13

In 1979 200,000 PAYE workers marched through the centre of dublin protesting about the tax system. D'ont know want effect it had though.

S.I.R

inordertobeable wrote: »

Given the current situation of the country, one has to wonder if we will ever move from the arm chair politics and actually bother doing anything?

Are we just going to talk ourselves to death so to speak? Will anything ever be done?

Will we ever grow the balls to rise up or are we hoping someone else will bother their arses to do it and we can just retire to the armchair and, well, just comment. As is done here?

The government can find 7 billion out of nowhere but cuts back on 7 million for needy kids?

Will we ever voice our opinion of do we just text newstalk and be done with it?

no i will point and laugh, get a job, work harder for less money and turn the country around rather then being an idiot and standing around screaming....


so what if their needy ?? im needy to, do i get any help ?? No: i help myself...


Jesus Christ cop-on is getting rarer by the day.

deadhead13

deadhead13 wrote: »

In 1979 200,000 PAYE workers marched through the centre of dublin protesting about the tax system. D'ont know want effect it had though.

considering how crappy the following decade was - not much!

inordertobeable

javaboy wrote: »

If he had used one more he would have received a 50 point bonus.

What?

Epic Tissue

inordertobeable wrote: »

What?

I can't think of any curse words with 6 letters:rolleyes:

Epic Tissue

Epic Tissue wrote: »

I can't think of any curse words with 6 letters:rolleyes:

fúckit :rolleyes:

OPENROAD

[QUOTE=mikemac;59047591As for protesting?
Meh, only the French and the Irish Farmers Association know how to do it. That's the two examples I know best anyway[/QUOTE]


How can you lump the Irish farmers in with the French?, the French are in a league of their own when it comes to protesting, premier league material imo.

inordertobeable

S.I.R wrote: »

so what if their needy ?? I'm needy to, do i get any help ?? No: i help myself...


Jesus Christ cop-on is getting rarer by the day.

Hi Sir,

I used the term needy to get my point across. They are actually retarded children who have special needs, I thought that was obvious.

If you do in fact fit into that category please help with the protest or I can send you an information pack?

Tyranax

deadhead13 wrote: »

In 1979 200,000 PAYE workers marched through the centre of dublin protesting about the tax system. D'ont know want effect it had though.

This. This is the clincher. It's all well and good going up through the centre of Dublin, placards in hand protesting against the government, against the bankers, demanding that something be done and all that. But what affect would it have? And what kind of numbers would turn out? In London in 2003 there was a million people out to protest against their government's participation in the invasion of Iraq. To what affect? It didn't change, or influence government policy in the slightest. The same would be here. How will some people out marching, chanting and brandishing affect anything? How will it impinge on government decisions? It won't, and it can't.

PrivateEye

The level of local support for the occupation in Waterford, the 12,000+ turnouts for various marches on education cuts, medical cards and third level fees, the result of the first ballot of Dublin Bus workers, the manner in which for the first time in the states history Labour (who I dont see as any real alternative, but its still hugely symbolic if nothing else) have overtaken FF in the polls, the fact the public have real hate-figures in the form of Seanie Fitzpatrick and Cowen and the fact unemployment is rising by the day to me says a huge public showing of anger is not alone on the cards- but indeed overdue.

There's a real need to connect all the dots first though.

General Strike, the way to go. Look at France and Greece. I think the problem at the minute is the 'worker versus worker versus student versus student worker versus everyone and anyone else'. Basically, the letters page of the Times, or the Tribune or any other paper reads like this:

"I'm a Private Sector worker, bolocks to that lot expecting X,Y,Z"
"I'm a Public Sector worker, the cheek of that crowd...."
"I'm a student with two jobs, let ______ pay fees and feck them"

etc.

The need for solidarity is critical, and to be honest has to come before any real worthwhile mobilisations can take place. It would not be impossible to bring the city to a standstill. In fact, I can truthfully see it happening as things get worse.

March??

effort...

inordertobeable

inordertobeable wrote: »

Hi Sir,

I used the term needy to get my point across. They are actually retarded children who have special needs, I thought that was obvious.

If you do in fact fit into that category please help with the protest or I can send you an information pack?

retarded children??

who the hell do you think you are????

I don't think their parents would be too happy you calling their beautiful children retarded.

inordertobeable

Deleted User wrote: »

retarded children??

who the hell do you think you are????

I don't think their parents would be too happy you calling their beautiful children retarted.

At least I spelt it right.

inordertobeable

inordertobeable wrote: »

At least I spelt it right.

if we're going to be grammar police now.

"I have wrote six letters"????

hmmm, try have written six letters.

or better still. Try "I spelled it right".

Sir Gallagher

I'm up for it, i like long walks and shouting so the pair of them combined would be a buzz.

inordertobeable

Deleted User wrote: »

if we're going to be grammar police now.

"I have wrote six letters"????

hmmm, try have written six letters.

If...

Capital and all that. The irony.

Can we get back on topic please?

inordertobeable

inordertobeable wrote: »

If...

Capital and all that. The irony.

Can we get back on topic please?

Emmmmm, maybe. I'll think about it.

Adam

inordertobeable wrote: »

At least I spelt it right.

lol noob

KnifeWRENCH

inordertobeable wrote: »

I have wrote 6 letters to various institutions declaring my disgust at it all.

And was your disgust enough to convince them to reply with "Oh now we have seen the light and we shall endeavour change their evil ways?"
Or did they have any effect whatsoever?

Insect Overlord

inordertobeable wrote: »

I feel it is worth it. What are YOU doing given your posts on this site about the subject?

My posts on this site are completely irrelevent to your argument.

As for what I'm doing? I'm in college, studying to be a teacher. I'll make my mark on society some day, but not while I can have more fun reading train-wreck threads on the Internet

inordertobeable

Adam wrote: »

lol noob

It depends on how "causative" the verb is.

AnonoBoy

I'll do it on March 17th same as I always do.

Inner City Dublin's Reformed Citizen's Marching Choir FTW!!!!!

inordertobeable

An File wrote: »

My posts on this site are completely irrelevent to your argument.

As for what I'm doing? I'm in college, studying to be a teacher. I'll make my mark on society some day, but not while I can have more fun reading train-wreck threads on the Internet

You come across as a quality striker. The power of one.

AnonoBoy

AnonoBoy wrote: »

I'll do it on March 17th same as I always do.

Inner City Dublin's Reformed Citizen's Marching Choir FTW!!!!!

I was thinking they could hijack all the signs on the womens mini marathon, there's always a good turnout for that and us ladies would be oblivious to the mark we would be making on the retarded needy children.

ninebeanrows

We will definately take to the streets soon, without a doubt, the amount of money this government need to find to prop us up is unimaginable.

They are going to have to tax us to the high heavens for this country to survive, the full extent of how fupped we are isn't even half known yet folks.

It looks bad now but it's going to get alot worse, big pay cuts, huge unemployment, massive taxes. They are all needed within the year or Ireland will default and become another Iceland.

We are oh so close to runs on banks, and tottaly collapse.

The riots will happen. The scary thing is nobody has a clue when, its just a waiting game until it all comes falling down.

inordertobeable

Deleted User wrote: »

I was thinking they could hijack all the signs on the womens mini marathon, there's always a good turnout for that and us ladies would be oblivious to the mark we would be making on the retarded needy children.

I understand the obvious jibe. I did a search on you and came across the pics on the womens lounge.

I apologise as I didn't realise my retard comments were personal.

inordertobeable

inordertobeable wrote: »

I understand the obvious jibe. I did a search on you and came across the pics on the womens lounge.

I apologise as I didn't realise my retard comments were personal.

I think that counts for personal abuse....


anyone else?

javaboy

inordertobeable wrote: »

I understand the obvious jibe. I did a search on you and came across the pics on the womens lounge.

I apologise as I didn't realise my retard comments were personal.

Nice concealed insult there. Please read the charter stickied at the top of the forum. That kind of thing is not tolerated here.

deadhead13

Tyranax wrote: »

This. This is the clincher. It's all well and good going up through the centre of Dublin, placards in hand protesting against the government, against the bankers, demanding that something be done and all that. But what affect would it have? And what kind of numbers would turn out? In London in 2003 there was a million people out to protest against their government's participation in the invasion of Iraq. To what affect? It didn't change, or influence government policy in the slightest. The same would be here. How will some people out marching, chanting and brandishing affect anything? How will it impinge on government decisions? It won't, and it can't.

Public outrage surrounding the over 70's medical card fiasco caused a government u-turn.

S.I.R

inordertobeable wrote: »

Hi Sir,

I used the term needy to get my point across. They are actually retarded children who have special needs, I thought that was obvious.

If you do in fact fit into that category please help with the protest or I can send you an information pack?

hmm you should because i might aswell be classed with them seeing as i got an education only simular to a nazi death camp, where all you learn is work... work... work... work... die...


but tbh... i know many needy people... they get great bonuses off the government...

where as me, mister middle class gets... Nothing...

trust me, when you lie on a waiting bed for a day and a half only for every other mentally disabled or paralized person gets preference over you ( even if you case is worse then theirs...

semi-broke my hand...

waiting nearly 9 hours to be seen )
now, you can understand they im not symitehtic but at the same time, ive no bother raising fund for them by any means nessasary ( shaved my head last year and earned 215 quid... every little helps + a free hair cut...

now MR little bitter man...


Do please step away from the keyboard,


dont pass go

dont collect your 200 quid dole money.

Tyranax

deadhead13 wrote: »

Public outrage surrounding the over 70's medical card fiasco caused a government u-turn.

True. But that won't happen all the time. Protesting isn't a catch all solution.

inordertobeable

S.I.R wrote: »

hmm you should because i might aswell be classed with them seeing as i got an education only simular to a nazi death camp, where all you learn is work... work... work... work... die...


but tbh... i know many needy people... they get great bonuses off the government...

where as me, mister middle class gets... Nothing...

trust me, when you lie on a waiting bed for a day and a half only for every other mentally disabled or paralized person gets preference over you ( even if you case is worse then theirs...

semi-broke my hand...

waiting nearly 9 hours to be seen )
now, you can understand they im not symitehtic but at the same time, ive no bother raising fund for them by any means nessasary ( shaved my head last year and earned 215 quid... every little helps + a free hair cut...

now MR little bitter man...


Do please step away from the keyboard,


dont pass go

dont collect your 200 quid dole money.

Have you thought about seeing a professional councillor?

brianthebard

So it would seem that starting "when are we going to stop complaining about the gubberment on teh interwebs and start protesting" threads or similiar is set to be 2009's meme?

javaboy

inordertobeable wrote: »

Have you thought about seeing a professional councillor?

Yeah but they never listen and they have feck all power anyway. Better off going straight to the TDs.

inordertobeable

inordertobeable wrote: »

Have you thought about seeing a professional councillor?

now you're getting into the swing of after hours

welcome welcome!!!

OPENROAD

Weathercheck wrote: »

They are going to have to tax us to the high heavens for this country to survive, the full extent of how fupped we are isn't even half known yet folks.

Which will significantly reduce consumer spending and savings and will discourage job creation. We are really in the ****, the budget will be very interesting later in the year, they really have to get it right, think outside the box,be inventive, though I have very little confidence the current clowns will get it right,afterall they have wasted the wealth this country had during the Celtic tiger