IFTAs - 14/02/2009

JonathanAnon

Dont think I've seen Tubridy this nervous before.

KerranJast

IFTAs are a joke. Either make them only Irish awards or proper awards. Loading categories with Irish rubbish just to promote our own agenda is ridiculous.

Mossy Monk

Deirdre O Kane. I have seen lumps of **** that were funnier.

Diabhal Beag

I hate Ryan Tubridy. He is about as funny as Deirdre O'Kane :eek:

K4t

Christ, the fella who plays Carcetti in the Wire is even more of a ponce than Carcetti :eek:

I wish Omar was presentin an award (with the jacket on)

jos28

Horrendously boring, even worse than last years effort. The audience are dead, should have given them all some more free drink. Anything to liven the show up. Embarrassing effort all round

Mossy Monk

Shane Ritchie is amazing.

robo

Mossy Monk wrote: »

Shane Ritchie is amazing.

He is going to be in trouble with the directors...going on!

Harpy

he just got told to hurry up!haha

chikuu

is Shane Ritchie drunk?

Mossy Monk

No. He is an idiot.

cooperguy

God I feel like punching that guy! Im pretty sure somebody shouted get him off the stage just before he announced the winner

Harpy

did she just crawl out of a bush?

wolfgang123

Colin Murphy would be a much better host

robo

Harpy wrote: »

did she just crawl out of a bush?

Either that or she stuck her finger in a socket

anotherlostie

Shane Richie = Muppet. I am sure his employers at Five will be deloirah if it gets back to them what he said about the show.

Susan Lynch = Psychotic Hair. I half expected Nurse Ratchet to come on and take her away.

Elmo

Why would you sit watching any awards ceremony? I saw bits of it and was thinking that at least the audience are honest about how boring this is!!!

But while we are begrudges here in boards (always) I might bring point out the winners of this years IFTA. And a big congratulations to all of them.

and the winners are...

And getting back to the theme of this thread. Now all we have to look forward to is the brilliant TV NOW Award, role on March.

Also was anyone else a bit put of by Finnolla Flanagan's sagging breasts? I thought she was doing a Judy from Richard and Judy.

Mossy Monk

Elmo wrote: »

Why would you sit watching any awards ceremony?

I had it on in the background while using the internet.

Kat Slater

Absolute load of back-slapping self congratulatory rubbish. I gave it a chance but switched over, it was so bad.

Mildly funny to see them trying to emulate the Oscars though... down to the speeches about each of the Best Film nominees, trying to make them each look like masterpieces.

Stop this farce for next year.

Elmo

Kat Slater wrote: »

Mildly funny to see them trying to emulate the Oscars though... down to the speeches about each of the Best Film nominees, trying to make them each look like masterpieces.

Have you seen any of the films, what did you think. I think it is a bit rich to suggest that they aren't good films. The idea of the awards ceremony is to give those in the industry a chance to get recognized for their work.

It is funny to see how everyone on this forum won't actually talk about the nominations and possibly have never seen any of the films of TV programmes mentioned and think it is their duty to tell us how much this is just typical "back-slapping self congratulatory rubbish".

Most of these programmes and films have been already recognized internationally.

While I do think some of the nominees where tokenistic I don't think any of the winners were.

So lets for once stop the Begrugery and start taking about the winners.

Guess what most film awards are "back-slapping self congratulatory rubbish", the emmy's even give out an award for best event, which includes the Oscars and even the Emmy's from the previous year!!!!

Aidric

Elmo wrote: »

Also was anyone else a bit put of by Finnolla Flanagan's sagging breasts? I thought she was doing a Judy from Richard and Judy.

Haha, that was offputting, not enough to stop me havin a sneaky one, mind.
It's all well and good for the guests not on presenting duties to have a few bev's but Jim Sheridan was an embarrassment.

Nolanger

What was funny was that In Bruges which got a great promotion as an Irish film isn't considered Irish by the IFTAs.
Yet Best Film winner Hunger was never promoted as an Irish film

Elmo

Nolanger wrote: »

What was funny was that In Bruges which got a great promotion as an Irish film isn't considered Irish by the IFTAs.
Yet Best Film winner Hunger was never promoted as an Irish film

It happened to be in the best international film section but it was nominated in several other "Irish" Categories including Best Script which it won.

JonathanAnon

wolfgang123 wrote: »

Colin Murphy would be a much better host

Yep, agreed. He is more natural. Tubridy's forced predictable "jokes" were a mess. All delivered in his usual mock serious manner. Cant stand Deirdre O'Kane, would rather have a guy outside the window with a pneumatic drill than have to listen to her voice. Her and her muppet sister.

Missed Shane Ritchie, couldnt watch any more and headed on the beer.

humanji

Elmo wrote: »

Have you seen any of the films, what did you think. I think it is a bit rich to suggest that they aren't good films. The idea of the awards ceremony is to give those in the industry a chance to get recognized for their work.

It is funny to see how everyone on this forum won't actually talk about the nominations and possibly have never seen any of the films of TV programmes mentioned and think it is their duty to tell us how much this is just typical "back-slapping self congratulatory rubbish".

Most of these programmes and films have been already recognized internationally.

While I do think some of the nominees where tokenistic I don't think any of the winners were.

So lets for once stop the Begrugery and start taking about the winners.

Guess what most film awards are "back-slapping self congratulatory rubbish", the emmy's even give out an award for best event, which includes the Oscars and even the Emmy's from the previous year!!!!

The thread is about the show, not the nominees.

Nolanger

anotherlostie wrote: »

Shane Richie = Muppet.

Sat beside him in Empty Pockets two year's ago on a Sunday morning - didn't know who he was. Quite funny.

Elmo

humanji wrote: »

The thread is about the show, not the nominees.

Interest that you should say that because the following quotes are a direct criticism of the awards themselves and the people nominated:-

IFTAs are a joke. Either make them only Irish awards or proper awards. Loading categories with Irish rubbish just to promote our own agenda is ridiculous.

Christ, the fella who plays Carcetti in the Wire is even more of a ponce than Carcetti

Absolute load of back-slapping self congratulatory rubbish. I gave it a chance but switched over, it was so bad.

What was funny was that In Bruges which got a great promotion as an Irish film isn't considered Irish by the IFTAs. Yet Best Film winner Hunger was never promoted as an Irish film

Not one person has actually been positive about the Awards what ever about the show itself.

Kat Slater

Elmo wrote: »

Have you seen any of the films, what did you think. I think it is a bit rich to suggest that they aren't good films. The idea of the awards ceremony is to give those in the industry a chance to get recognized for their work.

It is funny to see how everyone on this forum won't actually talk about the nominations and possibly have never seen any of the films of TV programmes mentioned and think it is their duty to tell us how much this is just typical "back-slapping self congratulatory rubbish".

Most of these programmes and films have been already recognized internationally.

While I do think some of the nominees where tokenistic I don't think any of the winners were.

So lets for once stop the Begrugery and start taking about the winners.

Guess what most film awards are "back-slapping self congratulatory rubbish", the emmy's even give out an award for best event, which includes the Oscars and even the Emmy's from the previous year!!!!

Haven't seen any of them. I know a few people who saw A Film With Me in it and said it was rubbish. I heard Hunger was quite good actually. My point wasn't that they are bad films, but rather that so few people have actually seen the Escapist or 32A. They were trying to make out that the films are the equivalent of Irish Oscar noms when the vast majority of people in this country have not seen or heard of any of these films and probably won't.

If they want this to be an industry/critics choice event, then make it that way and stop putting it on TV and advertising it like it's an event that reflects what people in this country watch - it's not. There just isn't a sufficient pool of Irish films and actors to get a good batch of nominations.

Elmo

Kat Slater wrote: »

Haven't seen any of them. I know a few people who saw A Film With Me in it and said it was rubbish. I heard Hunger was quite good actually. My point wasn't that they are bad films, but rather that so few people have actually seen the Escapist or 32A. They were trying to make out that the films are the equivalent of Irish Oscar noms when the vast majority of people in this country have not seen or heard of any of these films and probably won't.

If they want this to be an industry/critics choice event, then make it that way and stop putting it on TV and advertising it like it's an event that reflects what people in this country watch - it's not. There just isn't a sufficient pool of Irish films and actors to get a good batch of nominations.

I heard that 32A and Kisses are good. Perhaps this awards cermony is also their to promote Irish Film not just about what people are watching. Did you see all of the Foreign Lanuage Films at this years Oscars or BAFTAs? Perhaps you should take the time out to look at the films before coming to the conclusion that they are all CRAP as I said many of the Films and TV Programmes have already one international awards. I agree that we don't have enough programming or film to have an awards ceramoney but when you look at the kind of American CRAP that fills are cinemas each week maybe the distributors and cinemas should take a chance on some World Cinema including some Irish films.

JP Liz

Why do these awards exsit ?

crap show

Elmo

JP Liz wrote: »

Why do these awards exsit ?

crap show

To promote Irish film and work in the industry. Come on explain why you feel this way about the awards and who deserved the award and who didn't.

Hrududu

I turned over in time to see the Best Actress category. Talk about scraping the barrel, one of the nominees was Saoirse Ronan for City of Ember. City of Ember! Ridiculous.

AnonoBoy

Didn't Charlene McKenna win 'Cutest Girl on Irish TV' or something?

Now that's a well-deserved award!

Elmo

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Didn't Charlene McKenna win 'Cutest Girl on Irish TV' or something?

Now that's a well-deserved award!

She won the TV award not the film award:

Winners here: - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=59040228&postcount=5

Nolanger

Kat Slater wrote: »

Haven't seen any of them. I know a few people who saw A Film With Me in it and said it was rubbish. I heard Hunger was quite good actually.

The only problem is that Hunger is a Brit movie hence it won the BFTA award.
No-one is going to watch a DVD just because it won an IFTA .
Completely pointless awards - Hollywood stars were correct to stay away.

Elmo

Nolanger wrote: »

The only problem is that Hunger is a Brit movie hence it won the BFTA award.
No-one is going to watch a DVD just because it won an IFTA .
Completely pointless awards - Hollywood stars were correct to stay away.

Hunger was produced with the aid of the following: -

Channel 4 (UK Semi-state body)
Broadcasting Commission of Ireland (Via your license fee)
Bord Scannan Na hEireann/The Irish Film Bord
Northern Ireland Screen
Wales Creative IP Fund

And yes it won an BAFTA award because it was an Irish/UK co-production. IFTA is a cross-border academy including BBC NI and UTV.

Other nominations such as the Tudors (Irish-American) and George Gently where produced in Ireland.

Nolanger

Fine - but here's the bit I don't get:
Why does the Brit director of In Bruges get nominated as Best (Irish) Director while the Brit director of Hunger does not get nominated in the same category?

humanji

Elmo wrote: »

Interest that you should say that because the following quotes are a direct criticism of the awards themselves and the people nominated:-

Eh, someone made a thread about the show and others commented on it. You threw a hissy fit about what you see as apparent begrudgery and failed to see the point that people were making, ie that it was a badly put together show. The quotes you posted reflect this.

Elmo wrote: »

Not one person has actually been positive about the Awards what ever about the show itself.

Maybe that's because they were rubbish? They have nothing to do with talent or achievement and are just trying to bleed off the popularity or properly run award shows. The whole thing should be scrapped and the money from it should be used to actually promote all the films in it. I'm sure I'm not the only one who had never heard of half the nominees.

An award ceremony like this only makes sense when there's a viable industry to back it up. The tv side of things can, for the most part take care of itself. But anyone who has anything to do with films can see that it desperately needs a lot of time, effort and most importantly, money invested in it. Having a show that feigns interest in Irish films in order to get international celebrities to appear, doesn't help at all.

Elmo

Nolanger wrote: »

Fine - but here's the bit I don't get:
Why does the Brit director of In Bruges get nominated as Best (Irish) Director while the Brit director of Hunger does not get nominated in the same category?

Yeah I didn't get that either TBH. I must find out I will let you know.

Maybe that's because they were rubbish? They have nothing to do with talent or achievement and are just trying to bleed off the popularity or properly run award shows. The whole thing should be scrapped and the money from it should be used to actually promote all the films in it. I'm sure I'm not the only one who had never heard of half the nominees.

In Ireland you can't be praised. Nothing that you will ever do, will give you that, no matter how good it is. Sorry it is just the general feeling I get from boards.

Again I just to point out that many of the Nominees have already won International awards, they must be rubbish so.

And again many of the comments where made not only about the show but also about the guests and the nominees. So far even the only criticism has been that it is crap that they are crap and that we shouldn't bother. I don't think I will go to work tomorrow there isn't much point.

Elmo

humanji wrote: »

Eh, someone made a thread about the show and others commented on it. You threw a hissy fit about what you see as apparent begrudgery and failed to see the point that people were making, ie that it was a badly put together show. The quotes you posted reflect this.

Also if you had read my post would would have seen that I was responding to someones comment on the Awards. who suggest that it was all about "back-slapping self congratulatory rubbish" which is a direct comment on the nominees and those in the Industry not about the show itself.

Elmo

Nolanger wrote: »

Fine - but here's the bit I don't get:
Why does the Brit director of In Bruges get nominated as Best (Irish) Director while the Brit director of Hunger does not get nominated in the same category?

Will really have to find this out, because the only thing linking Ireland to the production seems to the the 2 leads, it was filmed in England and Belgium.

Kat Slater

Elmo wrote: »

Also if you had read my post would would have seen that I was responding to someones comment on the Awards. who suggest that it was all about "back-slapping self congratulatory rubbish" which is a direct comment on the nominees and those in the Industry not about the show itself.

That comment was aimed at the show and the organisers, not the nominees.

Elmo

Kat Slater wrote: »

That comment was aimed at the show and the organisers, not the nominees.

So it is not "back-slapping self congratulatory rubbish" because the organisers aren't back-slapping themselves?

It's not like the awards organisers gave an award to themselves.

Hrududu

Again I just to point out that many of the Nominees have already won International awards, they must be rubbish so.

Yup The Spiderwick Chronicles and City of Ember were wonderful films filled with award standard performances. Oh wait, no they weren't. I'm all for celebrating good Irish film. But there is so little of genuine quality that an awards show is crazy. They end up bulking up the categories with anything that featured an Irish actor.

Kat Slater

Elmo wrote: »

So it is not "back-slapping self congratulatory rubbish" because the organisers aren't back-slapping themselves?

It's not like the awards organisers gave an award to themselves.

Back-slapping their own small industry and films which the majority of people in this country do not have any time for.

Sure, there's back slapping in the Oscars too but the IFTA's have to take the biscuit, they try and make something out of nothing.

Elmo

Kat Slater wrote: »

Back-slapping their own small industry and films which the majority of people in this country do not have any time for.

Sure, there's back slapping in the Oscars too but the IFTA's have to take the biscuit, they try and make something out of nothing.

So you are indirectly taking a swipe at the nominees and winners!

Perhaps you should take sometime out to watch some non-Hollywood movies, you might be surprised at what you see.

www.ifi.ie, www.lighthousecinema.ie/index.php

They don't spend as much on marketing but I am sure they are far better the Confessions of a shopaholic or whatever other ****e is running at your local multiplex cinema.

Hrududu

So you are indirectly taking a swipe at the nominees and winners!

Perhaps you should take sometime out to watch some non-Hollywood movies, you might be surprised at what you see.

www.ifi.ie, www.lighthousecinema.ie/index.php

They don't spend as much on marketing but I am sure they are far better the Confessions of a shopaholic or whatever other ****e is running at your local multiplex cinema.

You seem to be taking this all very personally. Just because someone thinks the IFTAs are ridiculous does not mean they are going to be front row centre at "He's just not into you." Or whatever other drivel is out. Are you seriously suggesting that films like City of Ember and The Spiderwick Chronicles are films deserving of any recognition? If you are then you really can't throw any stones.

Elmo

Hrududu wrote: »

You seem to be taking this all very personally. Just because someone thinks the IFTAs are ridiculous does not mean they are going to be front row centre at "He's just not into you." Or whatever other drivel is out. Are you seriously suggesting that films like City of Ember and The Spiderwick Chronicles are films deserving of any recognition? If you are then you really can't throw any stones.

Look I just feel that typically of boards that everyone has a the opinion of its "****e". I didn't reply to your last point because I think you have a point. But some of the comments are just downright ignorance IMO.

Of the show more time should have been given to other independent productions as it becomes more an more reliant on Foreign Direct Investment. The IFB, RTÉ, TG4, BBCNI, TV3, UTV etc all rely heavily on co-productions or international ones.

But I don't see why people should attack the industry in the way in which they do, indeed most of the post have pointed out how many people haven't see the nominees and that they could really care less.

I think they did miss out on allot of the great work that was done. But lets look at the winners and comment on why they did or did not win etc.

Kat Slater

Elmo wrote: »

So you are indirectly taking a swipe at the nominees and winners!

Perhaps you should take sometime out to watch some non-Hollywood movies, you might be surprised at what you see.

www.ifi.ie, www.lighthousecinema.ie/index.php

They don't spend as much on marketing but I am sure they are far better the Confessions of a shopaholic or whatever other ****e is running at your local multiplex cinema.

I actually do watch a wide range of decent movies and I have been to the IFI a few times, just because I think the IFTA's are a sham doesn't mean I think small films are bad.

And I wouldn't waste my money on "Confessions of A Shopoholic".

I don't think there is a sense of begrudgery on here about the IFTA's, rather that people feel they can't identify with anything on the list. I just don't think it's worth having an awards ceremony or "Irish Oscars" when there are so few Irish films coming out, and even fewer that people have seen. It makes the whole thing look a bit silly. As it is, most people just don't take the IFTA's seriously and the usual reaction from people you ask is "never heard of any of the films". IMO it does nothing for the reputation of those involved.

Elmo

Kat Slater wrote: »

I don't think there is a sense of begrudgery on here about the IFTA's, rather that people feel they can't identify with anything on the list. I just don't think it's worth having an awards ceremony or "Irish Oscars" when there are so few Irish films coming out, and even fewer that people have seen. It makes the whole thing look a bit silly. As it is, most people just don't take the IFTA's seriously and the usual reaction from people you ask is "never heard of any of the films". IMO it does nothing for the reputation of those involved.

TBH I don't know how many movies from Ireland where produced this year. I would know more about Television Drama/Comedy. But it really isn't the producers fault if you have never heard of their movie, more than likely it is your local cineplex that have failed to provide a screen for even one Irish movie or one European movie. I mean their are times when only one big blockbuster is showing across 5 or more screens.

Well maybe people should go out and see them before judging them or the awards.

People seem to be looking at the awards in a bizzare manner, which is not good for either the film maker or the awards.

1. Viewers either don't get a chance or don't want to see the productions.
2. Viewers sees awards show, doesn't know any of the Film and perhaps TV show => they must all be terrible.
3. Viewers remain of the view that the don't particular want to see these productions that they know nothing about.